Sony PooS on competition, Apparently

Not happy with all the amazing press coverage competitor Nintendo has accrued with the daft toilet-humour name for its forthcoming console, Sony it seems has gone one better and, according to German website Gamefront, registered the name 'P oo S'

Gamefront reports: "Sony has patented 'P oo S', but we don't know what it is. Perhaps it's the name of the controller." The site also says that oo is the symbol for infinity, which actually looks like this; 8

If it does make use of the infinity sign, which is what the PS2 network has always had, then Spong suspect that it's far more likely that this is the name for the PS3 online network, previously referred to at E3 last month as 'PlayStation Network Platform'.

[Ugly American]

I keep seeing PoS3 posted by the fanboys all over these forums, and now it looks like Sony has embraced something similiar. We have the Wee'S and the Poo'S. Interesting.

Oops, be right back. I have to go to the restroom.

[Shadow Flare]

what the...this is completely mental haha

geez what other industry other than games would you get this kinda stuff haha. I love the way the picture of the infinity symbol has a neat brown glow around it. Haha. I think with Wii, we all knew it sounded like 'wee' but the symbol of Wii never really justified the name. You gotta love this symbol though haha. That's funny material

[Marriot VP]

So sony wants people to bundle PS3's and Wii's. Strange really, but I guess you can't have a Wii without Poo

[Ugly American]

I have Wii's without Poo's all of the time.

[Jak4ever]

now if we could only take a Poo without a Wii I think the next.. ahh never mind, im sooo full of crap.

[Sphinx]

PooS take too long and stink really bad (metaphor?)... especially when you PooS in your pants.

[SjaakHaas]

Yeah but does ur Wii smell good? Or is it just the Poo you smell?

[Shadow Flare]

You see, while the Wii is a cheap and fun experience, the duration of it is not that long and in the end, games will trickle out until nintendo can't get anymore out. Of course, when the games trickle to nothing, you will ocassionally get the odd squirt of games come now an then

PooS on the otherhand are more delayed in their coming but they are a MUCH more pleasurable experience, AND they last longer. You see, with PooS, you get the whole package. A thick wod of quality gaming coming out in one plop, and steady 'machine gun' like game plops that flow continuously for years to come. Now if blu-ray is a success, then all is smooth and incredbly satisfying, but if blu-ray flops, then sony may have to start really straining to get the quality stuff out. Who knows, maybe sony will strain so hard that blu-ray will cause their company to go bust and they'll die on the toilet seat? I don't think so though

The 360 is more likened to diarrhoea. It comes out first, but its a kinda gush of crap that no-one wants. Sure, you may have stayed home from work to experience your diarrhoea on launch day, but the experience just isn't as nice as a Wii or PooS. Some strange people DO enjoy the sensation of diarrhoea, but on the whole, every normal person is glad when its gone. The Xbox 360 is:

-Something that has arrived first, but has just gushed out a load of crap, with the few exceptions of a nice game plopping out with the waterfall of crap

-It' pointless and
-No-one wants diarrhoea, ESPECIALLY the japanese

[DrunKao]

That was funny as hell. I had a very good laugh, thanks alot Shadow Flare.

I don't agree with the Xbox 360 being like diarrhea. My experience has been more akin to having multiple orgasms. The first time was very intense and satisfying (launch day), with the following being a little more intense (GRAW), a little more satisfying, while sometimes also being exceptionally long (The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion). But I expect in the cumming months and years that the orgasms will grow in intensity exponentialy, maybe even becoming unbearably pleasurable (Halo 3).

"-No-one wants diarrhoea, ESPECIALLY the japanese"
I don't know Shadow Flare, there was this japanese girl in a tub..... maybe she had just finished watching Sony's E3 '06 Press Conference and couldn't contain herself. Atleast she was in a tub, so she could take a quick bath, 'cause man there was PooS EVERYWHERE!

[YoJ1Mbo]

doh

[Moostache]

I was laughing too hard and had to step out to have a Nintendo Console...

This is too easy, but does that mean we can officially call the PS3 a piece of Poo now?

The toliet humor of the Japanese console makers is awesome. Who would have ever thought that Sony would possibly go so far as to trademark a slang term for feces as a possible logo? Too much already...

[da 36]

sony does'nt have a mind of their own its almost like they didn't know they were coming out with a system.

[Killswitch]

1.Sony just can't make up there own idea's, they always have to take from someone elses plate.

2.They try to sale us broke up ass machines.

3.Then they cry when someone talks about 'em.

4.I believe there scared to accept defeat.

[Sphinx]

If MS had to, what would their toilet-related trademark be?

[da 36]

their toilet-related trademark would be ps3.

[Sphinx]

HAHAHA!!!

[The Snake]

lol

[shoota33]

Yes sony is scared to accept defeat.But was'nt it sony who sold 100 million console not nitindo or MS.And speaking of stealing idea did'nt MS steal sonys eye toy idea.

[96impala]

No they didn't actually, they little eye camera sony had was not original but sony brought out their version of it, now ms is embracing their version, alot of these things you see in consoles were done in the pc world ages ago. There is nothing new under the sun.

[Lucidmantra]

and Sony didnt steal the Dual Shock idea? What have you seen about the MS vision cam? Do you know what it will do? if anyone is getting stole on right now it is Nintendo. They should have kept the revolution name because that is what it is causing. Everyone takes ideas to make their system better. Unfortunately SOny builds who systems around other companies ideas and tries to ACT like they can do it better the first moment that they decide to do it. It isnt the fact that ideas are "stolen" or shared amongst systems it is the arrogance Sony exudes when they announce anything that has been done before but they are doing for the first time.

[andy capps]

Yes, but you're probably one of the same people that says that now Sony is ripping off Xbox live, even though online multiplayer has been done for years on PC's. Matchmaking, chat, voicechat, etc. has all been done for years. So if you say that MS is not ripping off Sony by copying their Eyetoy (which I don't think they are personally, I agree with you), then you would have to say that Sony is not ripping off Xbox live by coming up with a network platform that has matchmaking, unified gamer tag, online marketplace, etc. Do you agree?

[Lucidmantra]

I dont think I said Microsoft invented Online gaming. One of the first games I played "online" was Rise of the Triad (ROTT) on a 16 PC network at work after hours. If Anything did make online gaming it was Unreal Tournament or Counterstrike. They were some of the first massively played online games. And the dreamcast was the first console that did online gaming. Microsoft/ Xbox Live was the first company to do unified online identity gaming. Where you use one account. One name in the community.

[96impala]

What part of most things you see in consoles was done in the pc world ages ago dont you understand? I never blamed sony for ripping off MS for online gaming. MS didn't invent online gaming. The applications, and hardware, and software, and services, were done long before they came into the console world..there is nothing new under the sun. As i hear it, ms had a motion dection controller some years back for the pc, now nintendo has one on their console. Are you following me yet?????

[da 36]

sony is going to be out of biz soon due to nin ds and x360. And then you could be on the winning team. I got a ps3 with extra for 399.00and its called an x360.

[shoota33]

No you got an xbox 1.0 with updated graphics its called xbox 1.5. And xbox 1.5 does not have more features than ps3 moron.

[Lucidmantra]

it has alot of the things your PS3 will have but MS released em a year ago ;) And with the announcement of the same pricepoint WITH the HDDVD drive (if it happens) SOny has no legs to stand on. I already have a wireless router, I already have a console, I might buy it when MGS4 and FF comes out... and maybe Lair, I like the way that game is shaping up also.

You will never listen gametime, but in Novbember you will SEE.. Your golden monument is really pyrite. Shiny but not worth as much as advertised. I still hope it makes you happy though.

[Moostache]

Lametime / Gollum : "Yes, precious, we hates that nasty Xbug and his nasty XBox 1.5 What's that precious? Oh, say it again? Yes, precious, we hates that nasty Xbox 1.5..."

Get some new thoughts or new material man. For Chirst's sake, you post the same lame thing EVERYDAY in EVERY thread.

Here, I'll save you some time on the rest of your day and put all your favorite words in here:

"Xbug/xbot/xbox 1.5"
sadd
3sh!tty
lame
hahahahaha
go home
go away
shut up
moron
you are so dumd
Sony will rule
PS3 will sell xyz million

You get the point. When you have something worth saying, or an opinion that everyone cannot already recite by seeing it was you who posted, then by all means say it.

Who am I kidding here? You did not read past the first paragraph before deciding to fire some other lame flamebait response in this or another thread. I am very glad that you despise the 360 because that way you can never pollute the XBL community and I won't have to worry about you destroying the online experience in the games I like to play.

[da 36]

Its funny that you know what sony have they don't even know. One of the reasons their delayed f@g I have x360 you don't have either you came to war with no gun sony f@gboy

[da 36]

Are you paid by sony. the system is 600. the games have to be more than 59.00 bd baby, the controllers well dam just so it could look like an xbox 360.

[shoota33]

Does xbox 1.5 have blutooth controlers,memory sticks/flash drive,60 gig hd,hdmi 1.3,blu ray,internal power supply,internal wireless, no did'nt think so.You dont know how much the games will be so just STFU.

[da 36]

do you have the prices sony f@gboy. now if they had the graphics they lied about that would be onething but they don't so 600.00 for system 70.00 games and controllers all to look like the x360.

[Moostache]

PS2.5 tard-pack doesn't have any of those things either, and the internal power brick is not going to be in the PS3 in either SKU.

HDMI is useless for gaming since component can deliver the EXACT same resolution of games regardless of ICT or not, and for movies it is the same story until SOny turns on ICT in 2010 and screws anyone who does buy their tard-pack.

60 GB HDD is hardly unique and there are homebrew XB360's with 500 GB HDD already available (and if I really wanted to I could simply transfer files from my 360 to my USB2.0 80 GB HDD and eureka - I have a 100 GB HDD on my 360 right now...throw in the availability of teh XSATA device and the HDD capability of the 360 becomes whatever you want.

Again, quit spewing out the same old drivel again and again. It is really quite sad Gollum...Gollum...Xbox 1.5, we hates it precious, we hates it....

[da 36]

you tellem moostache

[ahh10000]

okay gametime you idiot all of those things are stupid as hell anyways, nobody cares if you have a memory stick or internal power supply, last time I checked I or anyone I know buys a console for those reasons you jag off. We all know that late at night you hide under your sheets playing with yourself and crying wondering what piece of sh!t lies sony will give you next

[The Real Deal]

Show us the link that says the 360 is selling 200,000 world wide a month. I will never post again and call you my God if you can do that. You keep saying it and lying for what reason I can't figure. One month in the USA ONLY it sold just under 300,000. USA ONLY. Not worldwide. In 6 months with shortages the 360 sold 5 million. June has not been calculated yet, which was the first month with No shortage of 360's. With system sellers coming out before christmas and shortages to possibly delays on ps3's. It will be fairly easy to sell a minimum of 5 million more before the end of the year. Gears of War, Mass Effect, Ninety Nine Nights, Prey, Lord of the Rings,NCAA Football 07 , Madden 07, Chromehounds , F.E.A.R. ,Two Worlds , Mobile Ops: The One Year War ,Enchanted Arms , Saints Row , Huxley ,Forza Motorsport 2 , Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway , John Woo Presents Stranglehold ,Fable 2 And on and on...THIS YEAR. you would be hard pressed not to find quite a few system sellers in that list. So to be at 5 million now with only Oblivion and GRAW as big releases. Can you imagine what the second half of the year will bring? Thats not including next year with Halo 3 and GTA 4.

[Lucidmantra]

DO i need that stuff no. What the hell do i need bluetooth on besides my PDA/cell phone? Why do i need a wifi COnnector... I got one it is called a wireless router in the 3 PCs and 3 consoles in my house. Why do i need memory cards. I have a f00king HDD.. internal wireless... yes it has wireless controller. 60 GB HDD. Yeah I can connect it thru my network to my BIG PC that has dual 500 GB HDD. What the hell do i need to do on the 360 but save games?

You are a dumbass. Why don't you stop and think about what you DO have around your parents house and see sony is trying to sell you stuff if you are an adult and know anything about electronics you really don't need. But if you are 13 like you are... Names mean everything to you. Just to say you have it. I don't know why you choose to engage me since i said I would be buying a PS3 MANY MANY times. If you were a REAL GAMER you would be playing other systems besides Playstation. Because if you online ever play Playstation you still haven't played one of the great games of recent years. Half Life 2.

[Killswitch]

Sony made 100 million yeah so what, but less see if Sony can last 20 years like NINTENDO have in the game.... Shyt MS have more money then that piece of Sony have, and don't try to come back cause Wii60 got you.

[shoota33]

MS have more money STFU.yeah MS has so much more money and got their ass kickied by ps2 and still is,pathetic!!

[shoota33]

You know everything(sarcasim),hdmi is useless right. have you ever used it in games no did'nt think so.there is nothing you can say for the lack of features in your dreamcast 360 so stop hating on ps3's and STFU.

[THELANDSOFSAND]

i believe you are the one hating on the xbox360, Lametime.

[da 36]

if sony is so great why the delay and I wont be surprise if theres another shametime.

[shoota33]

1 delay big deal.was'nt gears of war supposed to come out in march/may/july/august/october. maybe you will see your true love when the xbox 2.5 launches late 2007.

[THELANDSOFSAND]

i think you meant when your PS2.5 launches in 2007.

[Moostache]

Gollum - I'm sorry I couldn't quite make out that last part...was that "precious" or "Xbox1.5" or "yes, we hates it..."...no matter, I'm sure it was a variation of one of them...

HDMI IS useless for gaming unless you have an HDTV with HDMI inputs - and 90% of the US market DOES NOT have an HDTV with HDMI. IF it cannot be used, it is by definition USELESS.

Let's see if I can dumb that down some more so you might understand...."Duh...the plug has no hole...it don't make the pretty pictures on this TV..."

Now, you are free to go right on being the deluded Sony fanboy all you want, but don't speak out of turn again or I will just have to again pwn your dumb-ass.

[Sevir04]

I'm not trying ton engage in a war with u or anything so what i'm trying to do is have an mature and educated reply... HDMI if you haven't already noticed is becoming more and more talked about especially in the recent weeks.. and it's only garnering more and more attention. this being said it's only natural to assume that with this buzz of HDMI most HDTV developers are starting to impliment the outputs of HDMI into there future product. now suffice to say Gamers especially are seeing this as an essential part to there gaming, they want the higest resultion posibly when playing, the mature ones who only want the best a console has to offer will buy TV's with the support of HDMI, and those peop[le who want it just for vewing there movies in high def will invest in such Technology... quite a few HDTVs Now on the market have HDMI... i can assure you that because of this november is going to be a selling point for all gamers and movie lovers alike... Ps3 will be on market with it's Blu-ray player out of the box.,.. Rumor has it that a new Xbox360 with the Hd-dvd Addon will be going onsale right around the same time... also that said Ms also plans to include that nex xbox 360 with HDMI ports... Ms has garnered alot of attention and also drove quite a few HDTVs of the shelves with the release of the 360 last nov... you can bet ur 2 quarters that the same will happen this timne around as people wanna get into this HD thing with the best of the best with out anything hindering the greatest clarity and visuals they can get.. .. every day more and more HD tvs are sold and by the time november and christmas hit, the demand on Hdtvs will be off the charts.. and there is no doubt those tvs will have HDMI ports.. and people might not even realize it... my father for one got a HD tv this pass April for his B.DAY and all he wanted was an HDtv and he pick out one, when i inspected it at home.. it had 2 hdmi ports.. so and it wasn't even a sony brand either... so i can tell u that the percentage of HDTV owners in the U.S. and in the Europe and Asia will increase by years... people have always had a need to get the cream of the crop... no one likes to be obsolete and out dated... just ask your self the question how many people have black and white Tvs..... yeah... see what i mean... the transition to HD began as early as last year feb... and the 360 helped drive that.. so what do you y\thing will happen this holiday season when sony drops and the 360 upgrades hit the market... i can even gaurantee that you or ur family is considering that option... and u'd be happy as hell if ur parents got it or if u are an adult who works your own money and is indepandent then u'd appreciate ur purchase... if ur use that hdmi as usless to make sony to look like an idiot for incorparating it into the ps3 then it's not very smart. they are building it in mind with the tvs that support it... and they do. and plenty more will be on the market come this holiday season... so look into it and reconsider alright

[da 36]

cgi clips, fuzzy math, if sony can sell that they can sell you a bridge on the moon. when I bought my x360 atlease I knew what I was buying gaytime.

[shoota33]

Im the one hating on 360 but yet you are the one who is in the ps3 section.

[da 36]

I see you all over the place gaytime.haha

[THELANDSOFSAND]

yep, i read all the news.

got a problem with that?

no?

then be quiet.

[Cyclonus]

idiot, xbox came out a YEAR later than PiS2. And Sony had big name recognition with PiSOne. The fact that xbox, at the time an unknown quantity in the console world, could sell 26 MILLION units in four years is quite an extraordinary feat.

and P oo S means: Piece Of Overpriced Sh!t

[da 36]

I had A bs2 and traded it in the minute xbox came out I agree with cyclonus. Ef flametime.

[zonetrooper5]

MS have more money STFU.yeah MS has so much more money and got their ass kickied by ps2 and still is,pathetic!!

^^^^ what the hell are you on, smoking something eh? the PS2 come out before anyother console idiot, it had no one to compete with. meaning more money. i could call your console the gaystation or grillstation but i won't, why, because i respect gamers but not fanboys. you sir are a fanboy.

[da 36]

he's a f@gboy.

[Killswitch]

Your story still don't matter PS is going against the BIG BOYZ. Wii & 360 PS needs to get there shytt together before they get their ass kick worse then what they are already. The talks around town are the 360 new games and the Wii system. It's time for PS to take a brake any way DS has clam the belt as far as handheld

[shoota33]

haha angrey aren't you i see your frustration i mean the xbox getting outsold by more than 3x can be very painful.

[THELANDSOFSAND]

NES's sell more each month than PS3.
if you want to talk figures.

[shoota33]

ps2's sell more each month than xbox 360
if you want to talk figures.

[THELANDSOFSAND]

yep, PS2 has sold more each month, but we aren't talking LAST GENERATION are we! we are talking PS3/360, NEXT GEN. and who has sold more? 360.

i'm trying to show you how stupid your statistical arguments are.

oh but if you want to talk figures, sega master system, a 8-bit console, sells more each month than PS3.

[Cyclonus]

two different markets.

PiS2 costs $99.99 on amazon-bargain basement crap.

360 is a $299-399 upscale console for the discriminating gamer who doesnt want the same old cheap sh!t.

that the 360 is selling so well speaks highly of it, even though it COSTS 3-4 times as much as PiS2...but is WORTH 10 times as much

[Killswitch]

Thats right tell this man LANDOFSAND. Only figures he know is his girl figures, he don't know nothing about the business figures..

[shoota33]

If xbox 360 is so good it would not be selling 200,000 a month which will only give them about 1 more million units sold come ps3 launch to what they have know.yeah so that gives you 5 maybe 6 million sold which will disappear quickly do to xbox's lack of popularity and ps3 plain kiking its ass.

[Cyclonus]

Microsoft is WELL on track to have Xbox 360s in over TEN MILLION households by the time P.o.o.S.3 gets delayed till Q1 '07. by the time it DOES ship next year, 360 will have sold probably 12-14 million.

[THELANDSOFSAND]

360 have a HUGE sales lead over PS3. FACT.

you say 5 or 6 million 360 owners will disappear?

why would they do that?

the only people vanishing are the Sony fans that were going to buy a PS3!

[shoota33]

Yeah keep dreaming of a ps3 delay cause its not going to happen wake up moron. I cant wait to laught at your stupidass when MS sells not even 6 million by the time ps3 launches.You keep believing everything MS say lol!!

[THELANDSOFSAND]

that will still be 6 million more than your PS3.

and they have delayed it before, the bluray player from sony is delayed and sony like to lie. so yes, delay is more than possible. you keep believing everying sony tell you, despite their continuing and obvious lies about the PS3's development. who is blind here lametime?

[Cyclonus]

what do you think game DEVELOPERS are thinking?

Dev:"Hmmm, I either can make my game for 360, with a 10,000,000 installed base......or, I can make it for an overpriced DVD player with an installed base of 0."

Nada. Zip. Bupkis. Goose-egg.

[THELANDSOFSAND]

they also think:

wow, what a difficult system to develop for

wow, what a poor support for online games sony offer

wow, it cost almost 3 times as much to make a PS3 game as a 360 game

wow, the first set of PS3 development kits blew up leaving us behind schedule

wow, i love my 360 so much more than PS3

[shoota33]

devolpers are saying
hmmm i can either develope for the more popular ps3 and make lot of money or should i waste my time making a game on xbox 360 which the fanbase is very small and i wont make next to nothing.

[THELANDSOFSAND]

PS3 is so popular that it has EXACTLY 0 users.

FACT.

Yes, that was 0.

0.

[Cyclonus]

even you aren't stupid enough to believe THAT-oh, who am i kidding,its Gametime!
Pos3 is about as popular as the 3DO or CD-I, cuz there's nothing more popular than selling an overpriced console with mediocre games.

[OutLaw]

Then with out getting mad answer this? Why it seems to be you and a couple of fake names like SSJ04 etc. Seems to be the only one's who argue hard about what the PS3 could do is you guys. If I had to take a vote I guarantee you that maybe two people in this forum believes in Sony and the rest don't care about them. Also before you say it's just here. I see the same thing in alot of other forums where people seem to favor the 360 more than the PS3.

PS. Try to answer with respect and not with your childish antics.

[Karibu]

Slap those BS talking xbots too, not just BS talking psfanboy.

[shoota33]

haaha you xbox fanboys seem to be upset that you have the less popular console.

[THELANDSOFSAND]

again, 360 has millions, MILLIONS of users.

PS3 has 0.

what is more popular?

are you too retarded for this? shall i type slower?

[shoota33]

fact ps3 is the more popular console PERIOD stop being a fanboy and except it.im not talking about sales moron because everyone knows ps3 would have wooped xbox 360 ass if they come out at the same time.But ps3 is going to whoop its ass anyway even though its coming out a year later.

[Optimus Prime]

fact, the ps3 hasnt taken one preorder yet.

[The BS Police]

The PS3 is not the most popular game machine at all because it is not even out yet!

Gametime you are retarded!

[SlaughterMeister]

we should keep fighting about this,

obviously these multi-billion-dollar worldwide capitalist conglomerates need our emotional and psychological.

i sure wouldn't want all those ms, sony and nintendo ceo's and executives to feel left out of the loop.

i mean damn, where would the world be without money-hungry maniacs building things they care nothing about simply to make some profits?

jesus guys, why not go and actually PLAY the games instead of ranting about them for hours on end?

[SlaughterMeister]

i made a typo...whoops.

[Cyclonus]

Who died and made you the Voice of Reason. This is a games DISCUSSION forum, and when two or more viewpoints meet...this is what happens.
Now, we were having a lively (and entertaining) debate. If you want to contribute (the question is: "What effect, if any, will MS's ten million console lead have on PS3 this Fall?") then you're ABSOLUTELY welcome to join in.

If however, you dont wanna participate- just lecture- then kindly stay out of it.
And take your anti-business/capitalist rants with you.

[kingofps3]

I really hope it is NOT their new online network name.

[shoota33]

fact ps3 is the more popular console PERIOD if you dont like it TOO BAD stop being a fanboy and except it.im not talking about sales moron because everyone knows ps3 would have wooped xbox 360 ass if they come out at the same time.But ps3 is going to whoop its ass anyway even though its coming out a year later

[OutLaw]

You should change your name to Dreamtime.

[shoota33]

Not a dream its reality and you will soon find out.

[Cyclonus]

even in JAPAN!
http://digg.com/tech_news/J...

Japanese Survey Has~ 78% People Saying "No Buy" to PS3

"Male Demographic: Buy on launch date ：4.13%（169） // Buy when the games I want come out：16.25%（706） // Not buying PS3：78.62%（3217）"
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78% have no plans to buy PS3!
only 4-FOUR% plan to get one on launch!
And the Japanese gamer buys like six PS2s a DAY, they love em' so much(or maybe they just BREAK alot).
So if they dont want it, you KNOW its DEAD.
PS3 = NOT POPULAR. PERIOD.

[shoota33]

Yes ps2 sell over 100 million yet xbox sell 24 million it it is more popular STFU you idiot fanboy.Your stupid survey does not count for everyone moron.But we will see when your stupidass see's ps3 commercails everywhere and everyone getting the ps3 then you can shove your survey up your @ss

[Cyclonus]

no one gives a f*ck what ps2 sold. I picked a Japanese Survey, cuz it would be more FAVORABLE to PS3 since they worship Sony over there- And if Sony's BIGGEST supporters say FU to POS3, then you KNOW its in trouble....and if you cant even acknowledge that, then you are just about the dumbest person on planet Earth.

[shoota33]

Yes and one japanese survey counts for the whole country of japan.

[Cyclonus]

No, one survey does not count for an entire country.

But polls are often a great, and accurate, indicator of general popular opinion.

But you want some more?

here's another:

http://forums.xbox-scene.co...

and another:
http://www.errormacro.com/2...

and another:

http://www.mozlapunk.net/ho...

msnbc poll:

http://digitalbattle.com/20...

How many do you need to understand? Ps3 is gonna be DOA.

[Grown Folks Talk]

just as much as your opinion counts for everybody else in the entire world.

[TheMART]

He pssss Gametime

What is the game you'll get @ launch PSZero?
This Christmas it is.

I am just curious

[shoota33]

Keep on believing that and we will see what you are saying come november when xbox 360 is getting its ass kicked agian.

[TheMART]

What is the game you'll get @ launch PSZero?
At the launch in november then maybe.

I am just curious

[THELANDSOFSAND]

the only thing getting it's ass kicked in november is Ken Kutaragi by sony shareholders!

[TheMART]

I think everyone will chase barbie ken to stick the PSZero 'it-can-do-anything-so-also-be -his-*ssmate' up his *rs

Because they felt they are going to be ripped off. And then stick it up there another time, because they don't have an answer in their launch titles @ Christmas to

Gears of War
Forza 2

and the other 160 games out there for the 360

[THELANDSOFSAND]

i think barbie ken might like that though

[The Real Deal]

Show us the link that says the 360 is selling 200,000 world wide a month. I will never post again and call you my God if you can do that. You keep saying it and lying for what reason I can't figure. One month in the USA ONLY it sold just under 300,000. USA ONLY. Not worldwide. In 6 months with shortages the 360 sold 5 million. June has not been calculated yet, which was the first month with No shortage of 360's. With system sellers coming out before christmas and shortages to possibly delays on ps3's. It will be fairly easy to sell a minimum of 5 million more before the end of the year. Gears of War, Mass Effect, Ninety Nine Nights, Prey, Lord of the Rings,NCAA Football 07 , Madden 07, Chromehounds , F.E.A.R. ,Two Worlds , Mobile Ops: The One Year War ,Enchanted Arms , Saints Row , Huxley ,Forza Motorsport 2 , Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway , John Woo Presents Stranglehold ,Fable 2,Test Drive Unlimited , Call of Duty 3 ,Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Double Agent ,Superman Returns, Dead Rising ,Just Cause ,Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas ,Phantasy Star Universe , Lost Plane ,Indiana Jones And on and on...THIS YEAR. you would be hard pressed not to find quite a few system sellers in that list. So to be at 5 million now with only Oblivion and GRAW as big releases. Can you imagine what the second half of the year will bring? Thats not including next year with Halo 3 and GTA 4.

[SjaakHaas]

Dump?
uhm i mean DUMB?

[Cyclonus]

PS3 just dont have an answer to all these great games on 360. what do they have, mgs4? who cares? Splinter Cell:DA already looks better(in gameplay), than mugs4 does in CUTSCENES.

[Sevir04]

the level of biasness is enought to make ur head explode... MGS4 totaly owns Splinter Cell:DA visaully... and whats worst is that MGS4 is due out next year november or december. and Splinter Cell comes out this year... for both the ps3... whats ur argument... nothing... spinter cells gameplay doesn't even match up with it's own cenematics cg... no... Kojima confirmed that the Video was runing on actually ps3 hardware.... MGS4 won awards for best grafiacl presentation at E3... from ign, 1up, gamespot and other websites.. what did splinter cell garner?... ok.... my point exactly as a matter of a fact splinter cell didn't really raise much eyes at e3 and ur saying that it looks better than MGS4... lol!!!! MGS4 at konami's booth had hundreds of spectators, and it wasn't even playabe.. splinter cell was like ... ok i guess ... never say things that are so blatanly wrong... i only know of biased 360 lovers to do things like this.... even gears of war looks amazing... perhaps the most amazing game to ever grace that 360... and not even that game garnerd the amount of attention a nonplayable game all ready had a hundred times over... they did it at TGS and they did it again this year... noy even Splinter cell can compete with the grafic quality of square's FFXIII and FFV:XIII and both those games looked better than Gears of war which looked better than SC:DA... lol!!! thats all i can say

[kingboy]

Same old song !we already know how 360 fans hate ps3 and ps3 fans hate the 360.we know u hate the ps3 or 360 so please stop repeating ur danm opinion on every post

[THELANDSOFSAND]

stop repeating your opinion

lol

=p

[shoota33]

We will see moron we will see.what are great games to you are crap to the majority.And while ps3 is whooping xbox 360's ass dont come here with excuses

[THELANDSOFSAND]

"what are great games to you are crap to the majority"

like halo 2? the biggest selling game of all time?

and how is PS3 whipping any ass with its overpricing, delays, crappy games and idiotic CEO's?

PS3 doesn't even exist yet DUMBA$$!

Lametime, you are so lame.

[shoota33]

Like i said one delay big deal.are'nt you still waiting for the 5 time delayed gears of war asshole.You just cant accept the fact MS is going to get their ass whiped just like last time.

[The Real Deal]

Thats the only thing sony fans will ever be able to say. "Well our ps2 sold over 100 million"....lol....5 years from now when the xbox 720 comes out and sony is no longer in the video game business, sony fans will say "So what your xbox 2.5 sucks and our ps2 sold over 100 million."...lol...I hope yall feel good about that. Because that is the only thing that you will be able to hold your head up about when it comes to sony. Things just aren't looking too good for the ps3 and Sony did it to themselves. But the ps2 sold 100 million. Thats cool. Next gen is here and now. Jump in. By the way. You don't hear nintendo fans saying..."well we have sold more games than any other system with our NES or our Super Nintendo. Why? Because the past is the past. Ps2 was the past when xbox came out and out performed it in every area. ps2 sells a lot. But not because of the games. The biggest selling game in the last 2 years is Halo 2. So ps2 has been last gen over 2 years ago. So hold on to the fact that it sold 100 million...I kind of compare it to Michael Jackson selling over 50 million record with Thriller. That will never happen again for anyone. In this day and age its not possible. He hit at he right time and was loved world wide in his window of oppurtunity. Sony did the same thing. And now they are done. Enjoy your previous success while we enjoy our current success as the Leader in the Next Gen. No next gen console has as many sales as the 360 to date.
Microsft 360 5 million and growing.
Sony ps3 0 consoles sold and falling
Nintendo wii 0 consoles sold and growing.
Thats the only thing we know right now. Everything else is pure speculation.
But one thing we know for sure. The first console to 10 million always wins. And it looks like before the ps3 sells one console. The 360 will hit that mark or be very close to it. Its hard to swallow for sony fans. Thats why they call people names and bash them with NO FACTS or LINKS to back what they say. They show the same ole tired link about how for ONE month when the ps2 dropped in price to just over 100 dollars it outsold the xbox 360 by 10,000 units in the USA ALONE. NOT worldwide. JUST THE USA. Then they lie and say 200,000 a month means 1 million more consoles. When its a usa stat chart they show and its actually just under 300,000 which was a drop 25% from the previous months...IN THE USA only. Not world wide. Europe, Australia, Asia, ect. So if the 360 sells the same or close in the other regions excluding Japan...its doing 1 million a month. Times 6 months to go...thats over 10 million...and once again thats without Halo 3, Gears of War, GTA 4, and the many others I listed.

[Lucidmantra]

great post Real Deal. I read it all and I agree alot. Sony fans are being drawn away from something they love (Playstation) because in general SOny is treating them like crap and forcing them to pay a premium for alot of GIDGETS that they MIGHT need but most of them want to play games. Anyone who can afford a PS3 will probibly have a number of the things that Sony said they will have and as such they are being forced to get and pay alot for. Is it a deal? Maybe but I as a more discriminating customer see what they are doing. SOny has some good stuff with Assassin's Creed (maybe 360 bound maybe not), MGS will always be a good game because Kojima (even though he is firmly under SOnys thumb) is a good game creator, FF is tired but they still put enough in there to make millions show up. Sony has tried to use the same tactics they did last time with Dreamcast, unfortunately Microsoft is a goliath of another sort from what Sega was.

Funny how they won't tell about how Xbox was kicking PS2 ass when Halo 2 came out. Funny how they won't say how SOny still doesn't seem to know WHAT they are doing since they are still changing things on the system. People like gametime are the blindest of the blind. The perception of Xbox gamers are that they are hardcore gamers, who sit and play Halo 2 for thousands of hours over 2 years, Who look for challenging games. Is it true? PS2 largely had very little online because it failed badly with it Network ad-on. FFXI did not sell PS2's around the world as a whole, and they didn't have a breakout MUST PLAY online game by Sony. Sure Madden and stuff people played online but it was a Sad day at Sony when the dust cleared after the network card was selling poorly.

Will I own a PS3, will alot of people with an Xbox own a PS3. Probibly. Most people with a PS3 will not go out to search for a 360 because they are fine with what Sony keeps rehashing for them. If they kill off Solid Snake, Sony will be in trouble. FF can only reinvent itself for so long before people see it as the same old tired Japanese ideal of a young man/woman finding their inner strengths and overcoming obsticles to win. Alot of their movies and games are about that (Square gives it to them by the truckload also.) Even with Kingdom Hearts it is the same thing only they added Disney properties to the story. I am not saying that it isn't a good lesson but it gets old after 13 games.

I am a gamer, I like my 360, but when there are criticisms to be laid I don't hold back because I am seeing selectively. Yes the 360 has had some bumps, the PS3 will definately have some also. Years from now this generation might be the one where SOny lost the grip on consoles for awhile. I think we are at a point where these 3 companies will be around for a bit. Nintendo being the most fragile of the 3 due to a bad generation with weak numbers for the gamecube. Sony is having problems corporation wide that may bwell affect the Playstation. Microsoft is the strongest of the companies but with Bill Gates leaving probibly there will be some big changes. I highly doubt Bill will not be consulted since that guy built that company from his garage to world dominance. I think he wants to deal with sharing the money he has made from this company and carve a legacy for himself. But don't think that he wont call the new guys office and say "WTF!!! You better not F' this up because it IS mine even though I don't show up there everyday." Trust me, I am sure the new guy coming in and all the execs know that.

[shoota33]

you xbots are some dreamers.I cant wait for MS to get it ass whooped AGAIN.

[THELANDSOFSAND]

actually, you have to dream about your PS3 because it doesn't exist yet.

while we sit and play top quality next gen games on our 360's. hahaah!

and what game are you planning on buying when you get your PS3 lametime? singstar?

[shoota33]

while you sit and play low quality xbox1.0 games with updated graphics haha

[THELANDSOFSAND]

lol yet halo 2 is better than any PS2 game.

and no, i like to play oblivion, GRAW and DOA4, COD2, PGR3.

you like to play PS2 games. hahahahaaha. oh well, maybe you can play some next gen games in 2007.

[Moostache]

Impossible to talk to the brick wall that is Gollum here....

PS3 is going to get a serious run for its money no matter what you have convinced yourself. They have alraedy said the MOST, absolute MOST number of units they will make is 6 Million by April 2007. If they cannot even MAKE 6 million until then and Microsoft has already sold that many worldwide by teh end of June, how exactly is Sony going to "destroy" Microsoft?

Forget it, wasting time typing messages to you is like arguing with religious zealots who believe the earth is only 6,000 years old. now go get out your picture of the PS3 and perform the snake choke on 'lil Gollum there...

Yes, we hates that nasty Xbox1.5 precious, we hates it....

[Optimus Prime]

tell me one game that beats halo 2. umm lets see, waiting, searching, looking. oh yea nothing. i think halo is still going online for the last year and half and has been on top for the whole time.

[Cyclonus]

for all of Lametime's big talk - like a broken record-about the PS3 ah, "wiping"(his words) 360 ass this fall, I bet we wont EVER hear from him again after PoS3's soon-to-be-notoriously-bad launch. Or any Sony fanboy after that. they'll all be sticking their heads in the sand like ostriches.

[shoota33]

yes halo is the best in the world but yet ps2 still sold more than 3x as xbox.was'nt that good after all.you priase halo like its that different from any other fps.

[pRo loGic II]

PS1.5 vs xbox / PS2.5 vs Xbox 360, it will never fail. PS has never in it's history been better in graphics of in hardware than it's competitors, in ANY GENERATION!.

[shoota33]

And that has changed this time.now we have games and the most powerful console.

[Moostache]

Yes precious "we" have the games and those nasty Xbug on their 1.5's have nothing....we hates them precious, we hates them....

See how boring that is - reading the SAME thing again and again?

Probably not...but I couldn't care less, its time to leave anyway...

be careful not to tear your picture of the PS3 while slamming the ham over there lametime....that would break my heart...

And whoever above said the fanboys will be silent after the problems Sony will certainly have at launch...I wouldn't count on it. Lametime won't ever stop.

[THELANDSOFSAND]

lametime,

um, no. you have weak games and a weak console.

lol

sony have downgraded the cell, bluray uses MPEG2, HDMI and connections have vanished.

so far the launch titles all look boring.

[Cyclonus]

you have an overclocked 7800, and the 'Sell' chip is a bottle-necked mess.
and you have hybrid-motorstorm, fatally inert, wackhawk, benji 2,unsold legends etc, etc. Nothing I'd be bragging about.

but I guess you're just easily impressed

gheytime:"t3h 4Dee 120flops.per.min, KennY iz the Gr8test!!1one!"

[Lucidmantra]

I love the gollum talk.. That stuff makes me laugh and I can see gametime like that. The rest are funny too. I love gametime for the simple fact this guy absorbes alot of punishement and comes back like a pinata made from concrete. Takes a beating but doesn't break. Even in the fact of this place 99% of people exist in called reality.

[shoota33]

dumbass listening to rumers again i see.cell was never downgraded,ps3 still has hdmi so what the hell are you talking about.And you say ps3 launch titles look boring 98% of your xbox library looks boring.all the same stupid shooting games where you kill some aliens and thats it.And you mindless fanboys hype every single stupid shooting game MS announces

[THELANDSOFSAND]

cell was downgraded, bluray uses mpeg2, a hdmi port was dropped. my gamertag is thelandofsand if you want to see all the different games i play. its alot more than you, i promise.

stupid shooting games? like MGS4? oh, of course that is a terrible game isn't it lametime? you won't want to play that will you? noooo.

[Xtrm L1481L1TY]

Have you ever played the Prey demo on PC? That games deserves much more hype then it already has. Probably one of the best games I ever played considering game design innovation. It's awesome, you should check it out.

[Lucidmantra]

yeah I know but you know what I will take another FPS over another crappy Anime movie game RPG any day of the week. And 3 times on Saturday, because I don't have to sit and watch those crappy anime cartoons all day.

[Optimus Prime]

all you have gametime is some crappy kids games, rated e for everyone. all the ps2 games blow. they dont have one good exclusive. not one.

[Xtrm L1481L1TY]

I have an OC 7800 Ultra and I'm getting framrate issues on the Prey demo for PC. Imagine the hell out of that.

[pRo loGic II]

Still Sony's hype always claims it's the best of the generation and after the dust settle's from the launch hype the console's are always found to be weaker. I'll be here in late 2007 and if it turns out to be more powerful i'll buy a PS3.

[shoota33]

your an idiot PERIOD.Cell was not downgraded,ps3 still has an hdmi port.And mgs is not a mindless shooting game such as 98% of the xbox library.sony can hype all they want cause they sold 1000 million MS did'nt so they have the right to say they are the best.

[THELANDSOFSAND]

http://www.gamesradar.com/g...
cell downgraded

PS3 lost it's 2 HDMI output. $499 version is lacking. mgs4 is a mindless sequel. sony hype as they have nothing real to present it is sad. umd, minidisc, betamax... i wonder what is next?

[pRo loGic II]

Dev's made large amounts of games for PS1-2 that's why the base is so large it's the other way around this time. love it or hate it. 100 million BS the base is still not 100 million strong. playing tactical shooters against humans is hardly mindless it's the other way around.

[shoota33]

No you dont want the base to be 100 million because you're a hater.Ms thinks they can win now by throwing out shooters after shooters and win.they are going to get there ass whiped peroid if you dont like it too bad.xbox 360 is and will always be #2 deal with it.

[The Real Deal]

I'm proud of you. You called it by its name. The xbox 360. Wow...you have grown up right before our eyes. Not xbox 1.5. But 360. Good job Gametime. Now you just have to admit the 360 has way more than shooters and you will be ok with us. If you don't think so I can post a list of non shooters for the 360 again.

[Cyclonus]

so, when are you going to buy a 360? We know you secretly want one.
You're like a 10 year old kid who has a crush on a pretty girl(360), but he don't know how to express it, so all he does is calls her names(1.5) and tries to hit her and beat her up,and say how much prettier an ugly girl(PS3) is. But he really just wants her attention....so cute lol.

lametime, I got you figured OUT.

[Lucidmantra]

<spewing my guts out from Laughing so hard>

[The Real Deal]

Wow...you hit it right on. I've been trying to figure out Gamtime and now it all makes sense. "No I don't like her. She is ugly" "She is stupid. She is a dork" But at night he dreams about her and really wants her. Gametime....Good news....You can get a 360 for 299 and play many games before christmas and many that you will never see on a ps3. You can still stay faithful to your main girl..the ps3...Its not cheating if your girlfriend ain't even in town and may never be coming back to you. If she comes back. You can enjoy both. Most likely though I have to warn you that you might dump her for the girl (xbox360) because she offers you the same experiences and more and doesn't expect you to break yourself for her. Good luck. We now know. wink...wink...

[Cyclonus]

so what are you waiting for, gametime? Ask her out. You know you wanna. I've seen you...in the games section at Target...stealing glances at the 360 games on the shelf...oh, you say you're with ps2...but, you've seen something better - and she knows it.

And forget that other ho, PS3; B!tch only wants your money. She will leave you a dissapointed, penniless wreck.

360, on the other hand, isn't nearly as high-maintenance.

$299 gets your hand up her skirt; $399 gets you the kama sutra.

[The Real Deal]

That is funny. Thats got to be it. He'll respond ashamed and embarrissed...saying " Forget you xbots" " xbox 1.5 sucks and you know it" " Go play your stupid xbox 1.0 and stop posting on our ps3 web site"....lol....when the whole time he is wanting and desiring the sexy 360. Thats too funny.

[NJ1307RSX]

You two are sickos trying to make every PS3 fan look bad. Well I got news for you, in case no one told you, people don't f@ck video games. You still don't get it fine then I'll put it in three words, GET SOME HELP.
Also PS3 is gonna own the 360 regardless of what you say and 95% of the analysts and gamers think so.

[Optimus Prime]

naw, making that f@g gametime look bad. i dont really care about ps3 fanboys, or ps3. or sony peroid. sold my psp cause it is sony, rather have a ds, better games.

[shoota33]

Hey asshole if you dont care about ps3 or sony why are you in the ps3 section d!ckhead.

[Cyclonus]

Do you not understand humor? Satire? metaphors? Do you know what an 'analogy' means?

If you answered "No" to any or all of these questions, then CONGRATULATIONS.... you are what is known in the medical community as... an 'IDIOT'

F*ck 'em if they cant take a joke. O_o

[shoota33]

Do you not understand humor? Satire? metaphors? Do you know what an 'analogy' means?

If you answered "No" to any or all of these questions, then CONGRATULATIONS.... you are what is known in the medical community as... an 'IDIOT'

[Lucidmantra]

IDIOT - A PRIMER

It was originally used in ancient Greek city-states to refer to people who were overly concerned with their own self-interest and ignored the needs of the community. Declining to take part in public life, such as (semi-)democratic government of the polis (city state, e.g. Athenian democracy) was considered dishonorable. "Idiots" were seen as having bad judgment in public and political matters. Over time, the term "idiot" shifted away from its original connotation of selfishness and came to refer to individuals with overall bad judgment–individuals who are "stupid."

In Ptolemaic Egypt, idiotès was a term for soldier (etymologically parallel to that word which derives from sold 'pay'), derived from the idios logos, the Ptolemies' royal treasury that paid them.

In modern English usage, the terms "idiot" and "idiocy" describe an extreme folly or stupidity, its symptoms (foolish or stupid utterance or deed). In psychology, it is a historical term for the state or condition now called profound mental retardation.

In 19th and early 20th-century medicine and psychology, an "idiot" was a person with a very severe mental retardation or a very low IQ level, as a sufferer of cretinism, defining idiots as people whose IQ were below 20 (with a standard deviation of 16); Mongolian idiot was applied to sufferers of Down syndrome.

In current medical classification, these people are now said to have profound mental retardation, and the word "idiot" is no longer used as a scientific term.

I dont see sarcasm mentioned in there at all. I do see that the medical field no longer uses the term though. Maybe that means because you are educated in a school system that is substandard or don't take the time to learn anything beyond what will keep your parents happy. Or what Sony tells you to learn.

[Cyclonus]

What a biting and witty retort!

Do you always copy-and-paste so good, or do you have to WORK AT IT?!?

Psssst!!! nj1307, for future reference, THAT was sarcasm ^^^

[NJ1307RSX]

Again GET SOME HELP!!

[shoota33]

so, when are you going to buy a ps3? I know you secretly want one.
You're like a 10 year old kid who has a crush on a pretty girl(ps3), but he don't know how to express it, so all he does is calls her names(ps2.5) and tries to hit her and beat her up,and say how much prettier an ugly girl(xbox 360) is. But he really just wants her attention....so cute lol.

Cyclonus, I got you figured OUT.

[Lucidmantra]

ewwwww witty... wait didnt I just read that somewhere... What do you come from the Pee Wee Herman School of Insults?

[Aflac]

the true reasons y ps2 has sold so much is because so many of the same ppl had to buy the system several times over because it kept breaking, and because of sonys lies t get it overhyped. read this article for full details: http://www.unscleric.com/AN...

I rest my case.
Lametime, u know damwell this is true, don't even bother trying to argue because u cannot prove lies.

[TheMART]

the link doesn't work...

[PS360PCROCKS]

um...this article is totally moronic and useless lol stop getting info off spong!

[Cyclonus]

whats the matter gametime, can't think of a good comeback on your own so you just copy everything I type and parrot it back?

I mean, I know my intellect runs circles around yours(and with ease), but at least TRY to get your own insults.

Lametime, you're really living up to your new name...

[shoota33]

Get over it moron. ps3 Sold 100 million xbox sold 24 million PEROID!! No excuses

[Lucidmantra]

PS2 you mean right?

[THELANDSOFSAND]

PS3 sold 100 million eh?

impressive considering it isn't out until november

[The BS Police]

Lametime just made an A$$ out of himself again! lol

[NJ1307RSX]

Man its tough being a 360 fanboy you have to counter every PS3 fanboy's comments and are forced to Pay $400 bucks for the worst system ever. I should know I have an Xbox 360 with 12 games..
No seriously I would sell it too but since it makes for a nice decoration and since I make $150,000 a month I'll keep it, or maybe I should burn it and make a video about it. It might sell well on ebay.

[THELANDSOFSAND]

well, you are about to be forced to pay $600 for a delayed, downgraded, poorly supported piece of crap. but you are so rich you can buy 12 right? (that'll come in handy when they start overheating)

stupid people like you are what sony banks on.

&&no one forced you to buy a games system you hate or 12 games you don't like. maybe you should do some research before you buy!

[shoota33]

whats the matter cyclonus, can't think of a good comeback on your own so you just copy everything I type and parrot it back?

I mean, I know my intellect runs circles around yours(and with ease), but at least TRY to get your own insults.

[THELANDSOFSAND]

you are such a penis

[pRo loGic II]

#52 comment Edit) if the PS3 turns out to be $200 bucks better than the 360 i'll buy you(gametime) a PS3. whoops i said buy me one.

[shoota33]

you are such a d!ckhead.

[The BS Police]

You can insult us if you want but if ou ever met any of us in person we can Kick Your a$$!

[shoota33]

.

[THELANDSOFSAND]

stop talking about my d1ckhead, no you can't suck it. jesus g@ytime!

[TheMART]

I think g@ytime wants Ken to please him that's why he talks only good about the PSZero

[NJ1307RSX]

I bought an Xbox 360 thinking it was going to be better than at least a PS2, I even bought 12 games for it but it turned out like crap so know I'm dumpin it and buying a PS3. Happy Now! By the way my video is already on sale on ebay and 12 people have already bidded on it with bids as high as $138. Hurry and bid for it before its sold out.

[THELANDSOFSAND]

lol that is funny people would pay that much.

i just don't see what you expect from ps3 that 360 doesn't offer- even most of the games are the same

[shoota33]

thelandofsand wont listen he is an ignorant fanboy.He knows xbox 360 going to get its ass kicked come november but does not want to accept it.there are no feature for xbox but he cant accept that either

[Aflac]

videogames sell like they do for certain REASONS what I posted was nohting but PURE FACT and u know it, u just don't want to face the truth.

[THELANDSOFSAND]

no features for xbox? what are you ranting about now?

[shoota33]

Yes there are no features i said it.

[THELANDSOFSAND]

well of course YOU said it, you're an idiot

[shoota33]

Yes i dont want to face the facts but here you are searching day and night for articles on how people had to replace their ps2's which is pure bs anyway.Face it ps2 sold 100 million xbox did'nt deal with it.

[Aflac]

I know perfectly well the ps2 has sold over 100,000,000 units, I'm just stating the facts as to why it has sold as much as it has.

[NJ1307RSX]

-5th Phantom Saga
-6GUN II
-Afrika
-Angel Rings
-Black Blade
-Blade Storm: Hundred Years War
-Bomberman
-Coded Arms Assault
-Dark RPG (Working Title)
-Derby Stallion
-Devil May Cry 4
-Driver
*Endless Saga
-EyeDentify
-Fatal Inertia
-Final Fantasy XIII
-Final Fantasy XIII Versus
-Formula 1
-Full Auto 2
-Genji 2
-Gradius
-Grand Turismo 5
-Guan Yu Project (Dynasty Warriors 6)
-Heavenly Sword
-Hot Shots Golf 5
-Iron and the Maiden
-Jack and Dexter
-Killzone 3
-Lair
-Metal Gear Solid 4
-MMORPG from Square-Enix (Working Title)
-Mobile Suit Gundam: Gundam World
-Monster Hunter 3
-Monster Kingdom
-Motor Storm
-Naughty Dog
-Ni-Oh
-Omikron 2
-Ratchet and Clank 5
-Redwood Falls
-Resistance: Fall of Man
-Ridge Racer 7
-Rockstar Old West Title
-Romance of the Three Kingdoms
-Tekken 6
-The Eye of Judgment (Working title)
-The Getaway
*The Wall
*Unreal Tournament 2007
-Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom
-Virtual Fighter 5
-WarDevil Enigma
-Warhawk
-Way of the Samurai 3
-Blueray Drive
-Better Graphics
-Better Brand name
-Better everything
-Who cares about the Price $599... Oh wait I forgot you're broke.

[shoota33]

you forgot
60gig hd
internal wireless router
internal power supply
blutooth
memory/flash disk drives
8 days
gta 4 and more

[THELANDSOFSAND]

99% of those games look lame

[Optimus Prime]

wow half of those games look like sh!t. holy crap, i think you guys should worry about getting that game that was suppose to be a halo killer out, before you even thing about talking about killzone 3. i am scared of hots shot golf. that makes me have nightmares. naughty dog, wow i wonder what that is. ni-oh sounds like a pokemon or w.e you call those games. and about 75 percent of those g@y games i havent even heard of. wow you have blue ray, i thought that was delayed, AGAIN! jack and drexter i am pretty sure that is a cartoon game.
so pretty much, GRAW,GTA4, GOW, Prey, halo 3 kill all those games.

jeeze you have a better name, that is gunna boost sales. yea it sure is a good game, just let me know when the p0s3 comes out.

[TheMART]

WHAT A DUMB LIST

Furthermore

What games will be there at most important selling time: CHRISTMAS?

Warhawk?

Ouch, that will hurt

Gears of War will sell systems and that won't be the PSZero mate

[The Real Deal]

Grand Toursimo is Sonys ace in the hole. Its a good indication of how sony will do with its over priced cheap blu ray player. The only thing is Grand Tourismo HD is only 20 percent done and won't come out till the holidays 2007 at the earliest. Also one other thing to note. The last Grand Tourismo sold 2 million copies in the united states and thats a drop from the previous title Grand Tourismo 3 which was 7 million copies in the USA. What that shows is even with more ps2's on the market...the second showing of Grand Tourismo on the ps2 sold 5 million LESS in the USA. So its support has dwindled instead of increased. It was cool when it first launched on the ps2 but 5 million gamers said "I'll pass on it" for Grand Tourismo 4 with a huge 100 million user base supposively. That tells the story of SONY's Biggest first party game. Facts are facts...Support for sony is dwindling no matter how loudly fanboys scream. Its sad when you got people like NJ1307 saying that he has a 360 and 12 games. Its so obvious that he is lying. No need to lie. Those of us that have a 360 know what next gen gaming is. I bet you still think your ps2 is ten times more powerful than a cutting edge computer. lol...Whats crazy is it never was even as good as 1 cutting edge computer. And IGN PC has been on record as saying that PC ports to the 360 are identical to Oblivion and Prey on a 4000 dollar pc. Ports....Pc games ported to the 360 are identical. Thats incredible since over 5 years ago pcs are no where as advanced as they are now and the ps2 isn't as good as a 7 year old computer. But your fanboyism is loud and clear. So you make 1500 dollars a year. lol...Get a good job, get a 360 for real...then talk about it.

[NJ1307RSX]

When I said I have an Xbox 360 and 12 games I mean it. I don't come here to tell a bunch of lies like you do. Secondly I make $150,000 a month cause I have 2 jobs, and one of them is investing on Sony, and believe me their stock has gone up incredibly. That's why I defend it from losers like you. Also Microsoft's stock is the most hated on wallstreet but you would know since that's your job and the reason you make $150 a year. Which is the reason you're living in your parents garage while you type this in your slow Windows 95 crap that microsoft made.

[The Real Deal]

lol..you might be gametime's other screen name. You almost had us fooled. But tell me what you think of Sony's stock dropping by 50 percent? You lie when you say their stock is going up. Should I supply the link kiddo? And what's your views of Sony loosing 600 million in the first quarter? lol.....So you work for sony and you bought a 360. lol....from what they say you get fired from sony if you even mention the 360. lol....Poor kiddo...you have contradicted yourself more than once and you have lied. Lie again and I will post links so everyone will know first hand your out right lies. Sony's stock is on the rise...lol...

[TheMART]

HAHAHAHAAA 150.000 A MONTH

In your dreams jees dumb*ss

Sony's stock declined from a long way. It was 120 dollars once and now... less then 50% of that. You're funny

[Aflac]

I know perfectly well the ps2 has sold over 100,000,000 units, I'm just stating the facts as to why it has sold as much as it has.

[The Real Deal]

http://www.vgcharts.org/wor...

[shoota33]

So much to the asshole landofsand saying halo was the best selling game of all time.

[THELANDSOFSAND]

the halo series has sold 9million copies in america you little runt, more than any other on a single format. then there are the sales for the pc version of halo and the soon to be released pc version of halo 2. the only games comparable are the GTA series which will have exclusive content on the 360 for GTA4. (and not something sony care about anymore apparently)

if you want to talk worldwide sales or japan then i have one word for you: Mario.

something that won't ever be on a PS3 or a 360!

so i guess if you want to play the most popular games you must buy wii

;)

[The Real Deal]

XBOX 360 / PLAYSTATION 3 PERFORMANCE COMPARISON

SUMMARY
Now that the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 specifications have been announced, it is possible to do a real world performance comparison of the two systems.

There are three critical performance aspects of a console:

Central Processing Unit (CPU) performance.

The Xbox 360 CPU architecture has three times the general purpose processing power of the Cell.

Graphics Processing Unit (GPU) performance

The Xbox 360 GPU design is more flexible and it has more processing power than the PS3 GPU.

Memory System Bandwidth

The memory system bandwidth in Xbox 360 exceeds the PS3's by five times.

The Xbox 360's CPU has more general purpose processing power because it has three general purpose cores, and Cell has just one.

Cell's claimed advantage is on streaming floating point work which is done on its seven DSP processors.

The Xbox 360 GPU has more processing power than the PS3's. In addition, its innovated features contribute to overall rendering performance.

Xbox 360 has 278.4 GB/s of memory system bandwidth. The PS3 has less than one-fifth of Xbox 360's (48 GB/s) of total memory system bandwidth.

CONCLUSION
When you break down the numbers, Xbox 360 has provably more performance than PS3. Keep in mind that Sony has a track record of over promising and under delivering on technical performance. The truth is that both systems pack a lot of power for high definition games and entertainment.

However, hardware performance, while important, is only a third of the puzzle. Xbox 360 is a fusion of hardware, software and services. Without the software and services to power it, even the most powerful hardware becomes inconsequential. Xbox 360 games—by leveraging cutting-edge hardware, software, and services—will outperform the PlayStation 3.

[The Real Deal]

Who could be better judges of hardware than the game developers themselves?

"It's a wonderful machine to work with. I never lied about my impression of the hardware. It's definitely software-friendly hardware. From a developer's perspective, it's exactly the kind of hardware you want to work with."

—Tomonobu Itagaki, leader of Team Ninja and creator of Ninja Gaiden® and the Dead or Alive® series, quoted at E3 2006.

"It's the best development environment I've seen on a console."

—id Software's John Carmack on Xbox 360, quoted at QuakeCon 2005 (reported on GameSpy).

"The advantage of the Xbox 360 is that it's designed to run our game, period. You know if you have a 360 it will look as good as it can possibly look no matter what system you choose."

—Pete Hines from developer Bethesda, quoted on 1up.com.

"I can't speak much for Sony right now—yeah, we're working on stuff for the PS3 but honestly I'm so busy with Gears [of War] that it's all I'm seeing and I can tell you—Microsoft is giving you a hell of a system. This thing is a BEAST and is capable of MUCH GREATNESS."

—Cliff "Cliffy B" Bleszinski, creator of the Xbox 360 shooter Gears of War™, on his 1up.com blog.

That Indefinable Quality
Talk about numbers all day—and without a doubt, the numbers on Xbox 360 show how powerful the new console is. But beyond simple numbers, there's the power of having one system that serves as the center of your entertainment lifestyle.

Xbox 360 isn't just about swinging its stats around like a club, it's about bringing you into the club. The Media Center Extender, wireless adaptability, an endless variety of USB-compatible hardware, and of course the greatest games in the world make the power of Xbox 360 crystal clear.

Welcome to the next generation of gaming with Xbox 360.

[The Real Deal]

The biggest one day launch of any entertainment in History...125 million dollars

The biggest selling game in the last 2 years.

Microsofts first party game Halo 2 outsold Ps2's first party game Grand Tourismo in the last 2 years. 3rd party developers are jumping ship at an alarming rate. 99 percent of games listed for ps3 won't come out any time soon if AT ALL. Ps3 fans will buy the ps3 and be looking at their shiny new console while it launches with 8 lacklusters games at most. Sad day indeed. But the funny part is they talk so much stuff and bash people who show facts that I really don't feel sorry for Ps3 fan boys. They are getting what they deserve and Sony has only destroyed themselves. lol....Amazing.

[NJ1307RSX]

Halo 1 sold: 6.53 million (since June 29, 2006)
Gran Turismo 4: 6.56 million (since June 29, 2006)
Yeah they're neck and neck but Halo is microsofts best selling game while GRAN TURISMO 4 is Sony's 25th best selling game which came out only a year ago.

[THELANDSOFSAND]

he said halo 2

you have to compare halo 1 to the latest version of your game, thats kind of sad.

[The Real Deal]

Halo 2...... 7.75 million
Halo 1...... 6.61 million Grand Tourismo 4..... 6.58 million

Grand Theft auto series owns 3 of the top 4 sony best sellers. And its no longer exclusive. lol....WOW...Incredible.

[The Real Deal]

The 360 also supports alot of usb devices.
Here is a list of some I have tested.
USB Keyboard.( in Oblivion you can use it to rename potions and items you enchant.)
MP3 player (i-pod,creative labs,ilo, and samsung)
USB 250mb ZIP Drive
tons of flash memory 64mb to 2gb
USB 250gb hard drive.
USB 7 in 1 card reader.
4 port USB hub

[The Real Deal]

According to how you guys judge game consoles...Sale numbers...I guess the game boy is better than the ps2. gameboy's sold 118 million worldwide compared to ps2 at 103 million. So Nintendo owns all over Sony. lol....A gameboy is better than a ps2. lol...Now argue that. Lets see what defense you use or do you admitt that gameboy has better graphics than a ps2. lol...I'm a gamer. I love my xbox, xbox 360's, my Computers, my game boy, my psone, ect. I love games. Gametime...lol...so if gameboy kicks ps2's butt...does that mean the Wii will kick the ps3's butt? lol...

[NJ1307RSX]

Okay the PS2 does not have better graphics than the 360, I know cause I own one. However Sony is doing very well in sales of its PS2 and even with the negative Press on Sony they're stock is doing well which is why I get $150,000 a month. Secondly the reason the Gameboy did so well is because it was around for 11 years. While the PS2 has been around for 6 years. Analysts believe the PS2 will easily pass the 120 million mark maybe even 150 million. However analysts believe the Xbox is dead and I could'nt agree more. By the way did you know that the xbox has sold worse than the Sega Dreamcast, well almost.
PS3>Wii>Xbox 360>
And yeah I own a 360 because I can afford to not because I like it.

[The Real Deal]

A genious you are not. lol...you said "okay the ps2 doens't have better graphics than the 360"...lol...No way...lol....The xbox had better graphics than the ps2...I mean dayum...the dreamcast had better graphics than the ps2....I mean a 5 year old out dated computer has better graphics than a ps2....Better graphics doesn't equivilate into console sales. that was my point. Gameboy sold more than the ps2. But gameboy don't have better graphics...its just cheaper. Cost plays a big part in it. Ps2 had a sweet spot that gamers loved. 200 or less for a majority of its life cycle. Somthing the ps3 will never hit. Thats why analyst that you still haven't supplied a link to , are wrong. 50 million people will never ever ever spend 600 dollars any a game console. And by the time the ps3 drops to 300 dollars. Microsoft will be launching the xbox 720. 5 years from now. lol....educate yourself before you enter a debate with the Real Deal.

[Aflac]

You're a bit young for this, but I think u could do with a bit of training on how to become the sony fanboy in armor that u believe urself t be.

Lesson 1: Honesty
All knights in shining armor must be honest and not twist facts around, nor ignore other facts, other facts must be taken into account in battle.
Lesson 2: Valid Evidence
All knights in shining armor must be armed with valid evidence, (this does not include wat other fans say in forums).
Lesson 3: Courage (I know, it's a bit much for 8yr olds, but master this and u shall be way ahead of ur classmates!)
All knights in shining armor must display courage to find that they may be wrong. And when they are wrong, they should do the honorable thing and admit it (any knight that is often wrong shall be praised for admitting his mistakes).

This is only the beginning of many lessons u have yet to learn, however, I am not obligated to provide u with further training and ur just too young-patience.

Good luck!

[THELANDSOFSAND]

"Secondly I make $150,000 a month cause I have 2 jobs, and one of them is investing on Sony, and believe me their stock has gone up incredibly. That's why I defend it from losers like you."

OMG, you must be so unhappy about the PS3!!

lol

no wonder you are coming here talking sh1t. that is tragic... you also bought a 360! hahahaha

and if your income is from sony stock, get ready to be poor!

[NJ1307RSX]

Um no I'm not Ken Kutaragi but I'm flattered. Secondly if Sony's stock goes down which I take very seriously I'll just buy someone elses but never Microsoft's. The reason I bought a 360 is because I have a lot of money and I wanted to see what the competion is offering. By the way how can I be unhappy with the PS3 when it offers everything micro$oft doesn't.

[Lucidmantra]

mommy and daddy got you a share of SOny stock for a 12th birthday gift last year. SELL BRO SELLLLL!

[The Real Deal]

That makes sense...now I see why you are so bitter...And the way you lie you must work for sony. I feel bad for you. You don't own a 360. Nice try. By the way how much money did you loose when Sony's stock dropped by 50 percent recently? lol...Humor us. I'm sorry facts I have shown contradict your lies. Thats what I do. Thats why I'm the Real Deal. Better luck next time noob.

[NJ1307RSX]

Like I said before I invest in good companies that's my job. Secondly I am currently investing in 18 companies not just Sony. Sony's stock dropped 28% not 50% and when it did I simply ignored it. Since then it has rebounded 18%. Yes I own a 360 do I have to show you pictures or something. I bought it to see if Microsoft's stock may go up after having a good product launched but no it didn't. And your the noob who gets paid -$200 every day since you own Microsoft's stock.

[The Real Deal]

This just says it all: the once mighty Sony...

Sony shares have lost nearly half their value over the last five years. On Thursday, the stock rose 3.6 percent to 4,940 yen ($43).

One shareholder, who identified herself only by her surname Kasahara, said she bought Sony shares at 14,000 yen ($120).

"I bought shares in mighty Sony," she said, stressing her unhappiness about their plunge. "What are you going to do about this?" she asked, drawing laughs from the crowd.

Whats your thoughts on Sony loosing 600 million dollars in the first quarter 2006? i'm curious on your thoughts. I'm sorry...if I laugh at you often...I just don't believe you. You don't come across as educated and you definately come across as a 12 yr old fan boy. If i'm wrong. I apologize...but anyone can get on a computer and type this and that. I have supplied many links over the past two weeks. But you supply NONE. Its best when you debate a topic...you have something more than your word. especially if your word makes little or no sense. lol...I'm sorry WE just don't believe you. I always speak off of what developers say or people in unbias people...like Ign editors who their jobs is to report what is going on with the gaming industry. IGN PS3 tells its readers to get a 360 and that its got unbelievable next gen content. CLick my name. Follow my links. You might get educated on the matter. lol...So silly you are.

[NJ1307RSX]

That was just stupid. I bought my Sony shares at $30 and they're now $44. So I have made a very healthy profit (of $86,000) from Sony alone. By the way I'm a 28 year old, not a kid like you.
Here's a link where I get all my stock info:
http://www.marketwatch.com

[The Real Deal]

What do you think of the PS3's Cell architecture? How much harder is it for developers to write asymmetric multiprocessing code that will run on the PPE and the SPE's? How difficult will it be to port code that is tuned for the Cell over to the 360 while maintaining good performance? Do you think Sony made the architecture complex deliberately to make porting that way harder, or were they just trying to get maximum performance out of their system?

I don't think the Cell is as well designed for game development as Sony would have you believe. Some aspects of the SPEs, such as the lack of branch prediction, make them particularly unsuited to running most game code, which contains a lot of branches. They appear to be designed more for serialized streaming math code, more common in video codecs and audio processing, the traditional domain of digital signal processing chips. The memory architecture of the SPEs, specifically their lack of automatic cache coherency in favor of DMA transactions, seems like a lot of overhead is needed to feed work units to the SPEs and copy the results back to system memory.

The PPE appears to be essentially identical to one of the Xbox 360 cores, except without the VMX128 enhancements and with half the cache. However, a much greater assortment of work has to be crammed into this single core—all of the game loop, all of the rendering commands, and the system allegedly takes over some time as well. Only the second and third cores on Xbox 360 use a small timeslice to provide cool stuff like the Guide, music playback, Dolby Digital encoding, and more things that we can add in the future to all games, past and present.

I think porting from Xbox 360 to PS3 will be reasonably difficult, since the Xbox 360 has a lot more general purpose processing power that can be flexibly reallocated, and all of the Xbox 360 CPU cores have equal access to all memory. The asymmetric nature of the Cell could easily lead to situations where the game has too little of one type of processing power and too much of another. And the content might suffer as well, since you'll never see a PS3 title with more than 256MB of textures at any given time, due to the split graphics and system memory banks. When we announced 512MB of unified memory on Xbox 360, I think all of our game developers (and the artists too) did a little happy dance. It's easier to use and gives developers much more flexibility in how they allocate memory for various resources.

In terms of performance, I think that the PS3 and the Xbox 360 will essentially be a wash. We ran the numbers a while back and the two systems come up surprisingly close in theoretical peak performance, despite the one year difference in release dates. However, I know for a fact that we have a great advantage in software and services—our development environment and tools are years ahead of the competition, and this will ensure that Xbox 360 game developers can easily realize all of this performance and make superior games. Xbox 360 is a great system to develop on, a real pleasure—and I know that developers agree.

[Optimus Prime]

i know this, you are not capable of reading are you. this is called industry news. dunno maybe you should read this. it says industry news right on it d!ckhead.

[pRo loGic II]

Ninja Gaiden 2 / MotoGP / Test Drive / Forza 2 / Fable 2 / Over G Fighters / Grand Raid Offroad / Crome Hounds / Too Human / Mass Effect / Army of Two / Saints Row / Splinter Cell / Battlestations / Enchanted Arms / GTA 360 version / Embrace of Time / DogTag / Gears of War / Halo 3 / Huxley / Voodoo Nights / Haze / F.E.A.R. / Bio Shock / ViVa / Alan Wake / Crack Down / Lost Planet / Blue Dragon / WarHammer / Just Cause / 211/ Over Lord / Shadow of Aten / Apb / Crome 2 / Shaun Whites SB / Campions of Alantis / Data Fly / The Out sider / Shadow Run / Dead or Alive Code Cronos / Cloning Clyde / Two Worlds / Far East of Eden: Ziria / Lost Odyssey / Operation Darkness / War Devil / Enchanted Arms / Captian Blood / Open Season / Tracer / Cars / World Series Poker / Blitz / Phantasy Star / Super Man Returns / Total Over Dose / Thesis / Prey / Dead Rising / Nighty-Nine Nights / Road Rash / Sin Episodes / Might & magic / Dead space / Section 8 / Zegapain XOR / Love FootBall / Bajo Kazooie 3 / King of Fighters 3 / Terra: Formations / Spectal Diaria / Omikron / Day breakers / Marvel MMO / Madagascar 2 / Project Sylph / InfraWorld / Chambara Beauty X / E-D-FX / Psychopath / Bullet Witch / Samuri Warriors 2 / Lord of the Rings (gametime will love this tittle)/ Time Shift (meh)/ Bomber Man / Star Treck / Star Gate / Dance Dance REV / After Burnner / Preccursors / Half Life 2 / Shadow Clan / Dark Sector / 100 Bullets / X Quest. shewww must be 30 more but my ass is getting sick of hunting this sh!t down one bad thing about MS is their so secret about stuff it's not listed on the web like the games for PS3. Will some body shut this idiot up the PS2 is on the low end of the market and the 360 is on the high end, PS2 will out sell PS3 though out most of it's life.

[NJ1307RSX]

It's obvious that when the PS3 comes out it will outsell the PS2. Also all of those games are mediocre at best.

[Marriot VP]

yes because the PS2 was 300, and the PS3 is 600. Also the PS2 didn't really sell until it reached 200 bucks...that claims supported by 1up.com. 200 dollars is the price that PS3 will not reach in the next 5 years, checkmate.

[The Real Deal]

Many of those games are million sellers plus. By any standards if your game sells a million copies its a success. You say mediocre as if you are someone important. You aren't a developer or an editor for gaming. You are a kid trying to make points with NO LINKS. lol...
You never did comment on your lies about Grand Tourismo and Halo 2. I posted facts and you posted lies. lol...Busted lying again.
Whats your thoughts on the ps2 having 103 million console out there but Grand Tourismo 4 only selling 2 million in the USA? A 5 million dollar drop from Grand Tourismo 3.
And whats your thoughts of 3rd party game GTA series sold 40 plus million for the ps2? And now its no longer and exclusive like it was? Thats a lot of gamers. thats Ps2's biggest seller. GTA series. Thats almost half of the ps2 owners.
Whats your thoughts of the combo of Gta 4 and Halo 3 coming out for the xbox 360 ONLY.
And Grand Tourismo only selling 2 million in the last outing with the ps2?
Looking bright for the ps3. I guess thats why their stock is dropping and the company as a whole is loosing money and developers are jumping ship due to the inflated price of developing a game for the ps3. hmmmm...interesting huh?

[NJ1307RSX]

Sony's stock went up over 6% today so I don't know what you're talking about. Secondly Gran Turismo 4 has sold nearly 7 million while Gran Turismo 3 A-Spec has sold 15 million, why because it came out 3 years earlier. GTA 4 is also on the PS3 by the way. Here are links I use for my job:
http://www.marketwatch.com/... http://www.morningstar.com/ http://finance.yahoo.com/mt... Also my job is investing on good companies which help them have greater revenue, and the one I will never invest on is Microsoft.

[Marriot VP]

you saying never invest in MS is a fanboyish, or should I say fan-manish statement. Well, somebody's got to stay behind and rearrange deck chairs on the Titanic. Not everybody's bright and not everybody is able to let go of their logo loyalty enough to get into the life boats

[pRo loGic II]

Quote (All of those games are mediocre at best) I think you're full of SH!T at best. There about 10 untitled games i did not post but alot of those and the games i posted are the same DEV'S that gave PS it's top seller's and i can guesstiamte at least 8 of these game's will sell as well as Halo 2 did if not better.

[The Real Deal]

Grand toursimo 4 sold 5 million less than Grand Tourismo 3 in the USA. Grand tourismo 4 sold 2 million in the USA. Thats their flag ship first party game. Do you know what first party means? lol...What happened to thier premier game? Halo 2 came out after Halo 1 and out sold it. But Halo 1 outsold Grand tourismo 4 in the USA. What does that tell you? Well it tells me that Grand tourismo is falling as far as support goes. It tells me that Halo is growing larger with support. Most people buy systems for games. And the xbox 360 is the ONLY system that will have both GTA 4 and Halo 3. The two largest selling games in the past 2 years. Thats a good upside...meanwhile support for SONY games is dropping. Think about it. And stop ducking the question. lol...
Sony's stock has dropped 50 percent in the last 5 years. They lost 600 million in the first quarter. No game is confirmed for launch. The first date for spring was pushed back. Games are only 20 % to 70 % done with a few months to go. Good games take years to develope. Most ps3 games will be ports from the 360. As far as 3rd party games. Thoughts?

[The BS Police]

The Original Halo sold over 5.5 Million copies and Halo 2 Sold at least 7 million copies!

Add that up that is 12.5 Million units sold!

[NJ1307RSX]

Gran Turismo sales:
Gran Turismo 1: 10.89 million 8 years on market
Gran Turismo 2: 9.36 million 7 years on market
Gran Turismo 3: 14.48 million 5 years on market
Gran Turismo 4: 6.59 million 1 year on market
Yeah Gran Turismo 4 is performing very very good.

[Lucidmantra]

all you got is GT??? why not quote FF numbers for PSone and 2?

[The Real Deal]

Your talking about different systems...playstion and ps2. GT4 has been out for longer than a year. I will look into it and get back to you with an official date...but you are full of boo boo...lol....

[NJ1307RSX]

Okay a select few of those games are ranked above mediocre, big deal. The best one (as I thought) was Halo. Also the reason why I don't invest on Microsoft is because they are one of the worst stock performers. While Sony today went up 6%, yeah in one day I got $3,650. Show me a better game than Halo on the Xbox or Xbox 360 and then I'll respect Microsoft.

[The BS Police]

There isn't even a Halo game out for the XBOX 360 yet... get your facts straigth!

Also the reason why Halo 2 is the best XBOX game is due to the fact that the Halo Franchise is an unstoppable Juggernaut.

No one has ever seen a vido game craze like Halo since Doom was first released in 1993, an yet Halo 2 has been the best selling game since November 9th 2004!

[NJ1307RSX]

In about 1 more year Gran Turismo 4 will have passed Halo 2 in sales all it needs is about 1 million more copies sold.

[shoota33]

Halo is way overated.there is nothing specail about this game that i cant do in any other FPS.The storyline SUCKS the multiplayer gets boring after while.

[The Real Deal]

Show me a better game than Grand Tourismo made by SONY? lol....And thats with a LOSS of 5 million games sold from the previous version. Grand Tourismo 3. lol...How can that be SIR? How can the ps2 have 103 million consoles on the market but yet only sell 2 million copies in the USA? How? Please tell me? How? This is their flagship game series. This is their sony made title. How are sales going down. HOW? With a 103 million consumer base? Lets see. Help me with this.
30 million own an xbox but Halo 2 sells 6 million in the USA alone. But the ps2 has 103 million units sold and their flagship game only sold a measly 2 million copies in the USA? Help me with this. How can that be? Whats really going on here. But you know what is interesting SIR. The GTA series when it was exclusive for the ps2 sold 40 million copies. I wonder how many ps2 it sold with that game? Sony's biggest selling game series in the ps2's lifecycle. Now its coming out for the xbox 360 with exclusive content. hmmmm....very interesting. lol....Thoughts?

[NJ1307RSX]

With the PS2 people have more choice in the games they buy so they sold 6.59 million copies of Gran Turismo 4 so far in just 1 year. While Halo 2 sold only about 4 million in one year. With the Xbox you have less choice of games so you're forced to buy games like Halo.

[The BS Police]

The Halo franchise has the most original story/plot in videogame history!

Hell the Story is better than most Hollywood Movies!

[The Real Deal]

You are lying again. here is the link. Why do you lie? You are not answering my question. I was talking about USA Sales. 2 million copies in the USA. Halo 2 has sold 6 million in the USA only. lol....Now...worldwide...Halo 2 has sold more than any game for any system in the last 2 years. PERIOD.
Halo 2 has sold just under 8 million world wide and still in the top 10 sellers every month.
Grand Tourismo 4 has sold 6.5 million world wide. I'm not talking about choice. I'm talking about THE BEST SELLING GAME IN THE PAST TWO YEARS. Thats a lot of momentum going into the next gen. Meanwhile Sony's Game momentum is dropping drastically by 5 million in the USA ALONE. You can't debate facts...you can say what you think and what you hope...but I state FACTS. lol...Try again. Answer the question with FACTS. Thanks in advance.
http://www.vgcharts.org/wor...

[The Real Deal]

Grand Tourismo 4 came out 3 months after Halo 2. What are you talking about? Your telling me Halo 2 sold 6 million in the USA and GT4 sold 2 million in the USA. And the 4 million difference is 3 months? lol...Why can't you see the obvious. Repeat after me..."Halo 2 has sold the most games out of ANY game over the last 2 years. Halo 2 launched Nov. 2004 and Gt4 launched Feb. 2005. Dec, Jan, is two months seperating them. Ps2 sold 103 million systems but yet there most recent largest seller has sold less than Microsofts biggest seller and xbox sold 30 million. And what about the fact that xbox 360 has a record setting 4.5 games sold per console. Ps2 was 1.5 games sold per console. Interesting huh? Just some facts to digest.

[shoota33]

STFU all those games SUCK.Ms trying so hard to put japanese games on xbox and they still wont buy it.japanese people know xbox 360 is crap so they are waiting for ps3. and xbox 360 they are still going to get their ass kicked by ps3 even with their little japanese support.

[The BS Police]

The reason why Japanese gamers don't by the XBOX 360/American products is due to the fact that they like to think that they are the leaders in technology!

Also the majority of Japanese Gamers are abandoning the "PS3" in favour of the "Nintendo Wii".

Again your statements are not facts!

[shoota33]

The japanese are waiting for the ps3 PERIOD.

[The BS Police]

The Japanese Gamers could care less about the PS3 because they have the Nintendo Wii to lookforward to!

[THELANDSOFSAND]

wii will rule japan.

no doubt.

PS3 will be second.

[The Real Deal]

I'm so glad you came. Can you arrest these ill informed fanboys..I've been holding them off with facts while they keep talking make believe nonsense. lol...I'm glad you are here. Please take them to jail...Do what you do.

[NJ1307RSX]

Kid stop talking and listen to me: I have a job, I own and Xbox 360 which I barely play with, and I only give facts not opinions.

[The BS Police]

"Gametime" and "NJ1307" you are hereby UnderArrest for BullSh!tting.

You have the Right to remain Stupid!

Anything you say or here will remain incomprehensible!

[Lucidmantra]

LMAO

[pRo loGic II]

Thats hard to say GOW?, MASS Effect?, Fable 2?, Lost Odyssey, Project Sylph?, Forza 2? all could be smash hits; but who really know's

[The BS Police]

My Gamertag is "The BS Police", send me a friend request!

[shoota33]

GOW- IS ALL HYPE mass effect SUCKS fable CGI VIDEO SHOWN AT E3 lost odyssey SUCKS forza 2 SUCKS stop listing your crap games.

[The BS Police]

You havent even played any of those games so what are you on? Crack?

No more crack for you!

Listen I don't know anything about Fable 2 being CGI but I will tell you the majority of the videos for the PS3 you see (like Killzone 2) is nothing but CGI!
Learn your facts Gametime!

[Marriot VP]

gametime you surpass stupidity. You say GOW is all hype. Let's look at the FACTS and not your dillusions.

Epic has said blatantly that they don't hype this, and they don't. They don't need to it's the consumers that look at the proof and say after E3, there's my Killzone 2 not in CGI.

Epic has done minimal to no hype and if you have examples back them up. Which I'm sure you don't, they don't overpromise and under deliver like Sony.

get a life gametime and quite being an instigator. Your just a sad perverted fanboy that gets pathetic little highs from satisfying your own short comings by posting comments like that.

[NJ1307RSX]

I just got $5,350 off Sony, the company you guys keep bashing there is nothing more that needs to be said, most of you are mental.
I'm logging off since I have a job unlike most of you.

[THELANDSOFSAND]

yes we have jobs and money too, very interesting. where will you money and stocks be when PS3 flops in november?

your attitude reeks of businessman, not gamer. you come here for stock tips, heres one: sony have had endless problems and bad press over PS3, and no matter what you post here, it isn't going to fix a tragedy in the works.

[Aflac]

You're a bit young for this, but I think u could do with a bit of training on how to become the sony fanboy in armor that u believe urself t be.

Lesson 1: Honesty
All knights in shining armor must be honest and not twist facts around, nor ignore other facts, other facts must be taken into account in battle.
Lesson 2: Valid Evidence
All knights in shining armor must be armed with valid evidence, (this does not include wat other fans say in forums).
Lesson 3: Courage (I know, it's a bit much for 8yr olds, but master this and u shall be way ahead of ur classmates!)
All knights in shining armor must display courage to find that they may be wrong. And when they are wrong, they should do the honorable thing and admit it (any knight that is often wrong shall be praised for admitting his mistakes).

This is only the beginning of many lessons u have yet to learn, however, I am not obligated to provide u with further training and ur just too young-patience.

Good luck!

[pRo loGic II]

THe Japanese are saying "ME NO BUY" pwe-S thrwee

[The BS Police]

The Japanese Gamers are getting the Nintendo Wii instead!

[The Real Deal]

I am getting a ps3. I'm not excited about it. But I am a buyaholic. I buy everything. I bought an HD dvd player and I buy every doo dad I can get my hands on. I love games. BUT....I'm honest. I'm well informed when it comes to the gaming industry. I'm not blindly loyal to one company. I just play games. By the way....My gamer tag on xbox live is KobeBryantLaker I have 6 gamer tags but thats the one I use the most. And yes I have a ps2, ps1, dreamcast, xbox, computers, labtops, 4 cell phones...and don't ask why...lol...I just buy stuff. Over 3000 dvd's...hd tv's all through out my house...I can go on and on....And yes I can take a picture and post it for yall to see. I'm the Real Deal. I love games. Not One company over another. It sounds like it because I am very very disatisfied with the direction sony has taken this next gen. But I will still buy it and see for myself. If its great...GREAT...if its NOT...Oh, well...I enjoy the heck out of my 360's...and I can't tell you how many gamers have came to my house and left out with a differnet view on the 360. I have had many hardcore sony fans turn into 360 fans. I've even had guys that are only into computer gaming on High end pc's run out and get a 360. Jump In.

[pRo loGic II]

10:00 PT and 1:00 EST have fun at work...

[shoota33]

is'nt it your bedtime.

[The BS Police]

Gametime get back to bed before your parents catch you on the computer doing God knows what!

[Aflac]

The BS Police, I shall send u a friend request sometime tmrw, and same for thelandofsand

[The BS Police]

See ya online tommorow then!

[THELANDSOFSAND]

cool, thanks

we have a 360news clan!

now we just need gametime to come play... mwahahahahahaha

[The Real Deal]

November 2004 Halo 2 hits the market...Febuary 2005 Grand Tourismo hits the market. 3 month difference. But Halo 2 sells 8 million worldwide and Grand Tourismo sells 6.5 million world wide...Which first party game has sold the most? lol...Halo 2 remains in the top 10 of games sold even now. Just some facts... Halo 2 outsells Halo 1. Grand Tourismo sells 5 million less than GT3 did in the USA. Halo is has sold the most out of any game in the past 3 years. And its only been out for 1 year and 5 months. Not even two years.

[Marriot VP]

All this talk about games sales versus one another is all skewed. How about compare the #games to the total amount of systems sold.

That is the only fair way to judge a games impact. So for Halo 2 it'd be around 6/20, and for GT it'd be around 6/100. Those aren't exact numbers but you get the idea.

It's all about relativity, just cause 10% buy a racing game doesn't make it good, it just means that around 10% like racing. Same for halo but the impact is unmatched. The halo 2 launch is the proven biggest day in entertainment history. Whether you like the game or not keep it to yourself, cause your insignificant to this mass of fans.

[ironwolf]

I hope he ran off to dump his Sony stock: the Japanese government and Sony just announced that Sony owes an additional $240+ million in back taxes. You just got to love their luck, huh.

[THELANDSOFSAND]

hahahahahahaahaha

ohhhh

ahaahahahahaha

*draws breath*

ahhahaahhahahahahahah

[Marriot VP]

So am I with this whole forum, therefore we must all ignore his hopeless facade.

IGNORE GAMETIME

.this is a movement so spread the word

now

don't give him the satisfaction

[THELANDSOFSAND]

i am sick of his stupid comments too.

[schnodder]

BORING .....

[YoJ1Mbo]

Reading this article was more fun than watching my cat wii and smell all of its poos. Dude though, sometimes my dog eats some of the poos and then wii's out where he poos, that pwns.

Based on peoples responses here, the Wii will now name their tv lookin controller Dong and the other half, that you will slide Dong into, will be called Gametimes PooS hole.