Lens of Truth: Terminator Salvation Comparison (720p)

Lens of Truth writes, "This week at the Lens of Truth we had an amazing opportunity to play the much anticipated Terminator Salvation almost a week before the release date. This exclusive was made possible because the amazing staff at Play N Trade (Oviedo, FL) who let us borrow their store preview copy for this Head2Head. So stick around to see which game was by far the supreme machine and which should have been terminated on completion!"

[RudeSole Devil]

I never thought this day would come, the Xbox 360 losing to the PS3 and really bad. Well every dog gets a bone once in a while. So enjoy this victory you PS3 fan boys because it wont last long....

[evildeli]

I can't believe the Xbox is missing volumetric fog. How did they forget to port over the fog to the xbox?

[bullswar]

Well ... Lensoftruth.com is a capable website ... but I really didn't understand whats wrong with them this time .... I'm bit skeptical that might have been paid to promote PS3 version of game.

Its just like reporting the false news contrary to what actually happened.

Alright this game is developed using Unreal Engine ... now first of all consider the following.

Head 2 Head First Picture.
http://www.lensoftruth.com/...

Xbox 360 version is clearly superior as it is cabable of producing dynamic self shadows. Shadow detail in PS3 version gives impression of daytime shadows when clearly it is a night time ... its is just toooo bright, everything is lit and clearly visible ... considering there are no street lamps or light source available and if anyone tried walking under clear moonlight ... shadow detail what u get in Xbox 360 version is exactly what u get. Shadow detail information in PS3 is just wrong. look at the wall it is completely lit whereas Xbox 360 wall shows uniformity how it should look under moonlight.

Missing Volumetric effect.

http://www.lensoftruth.com/...

Im not quite sure ... it does seem that this level was designed at two different times (day or night). Cuz Xbox 360 represents detail which is perfect for night time. While PS3 gives information when sun is at 3'O-Clock. Look at the shotgun texture difference ... Xbox 360 looks much more real as its worn out .... whereas PS3 looks fresh out of the oven.

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The PlayStation 3 version has an issue with the ceiling.

Well this image is a prime example that PS3 is not capable of producing self shadows or dynamic self shadows .. resulting in displaying wrong information.

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Notice the Xbox 360 version is missing the specular map making for a less detailed environment

Well lemme reiterate that during night time you dont get see the shadow detail as clealy as daylight ... PS3 is displaying wrong shadow detail ... it is just tooooo bright ... whereas Xbox 360 is displaying right shadow detail.

[siyrobbo]

this game does not run on the unreal engine, it runs on the diesel engine

[OGharryjoysticks]

I see where you're trying to go with it, but it's a movie game. Do you honestly think they have where it follows time through day and night cycles instead of being on rails.

[morganfell]

PS3 can't produce dynamic self shadows? Yeah, right. Look, the 360 overall came up short. End of story. The PS3 version has it's issues here. No question but overall the difference is fairly clear and the PS3 took this one.

That isn't the issue bigger issue though. It's continuity. That affects both versions. Anyone that has been around development can see the obvious points in the game where the dev team went through and cut items in order to meet a deadline. It's why many of the scenes seem disconnected as you move from level point to level point.

There are other matters as well. A Ma Deuce definitely should rock the entire screen. Four things say you are racking away with a 50 in real life and should do likewise in a game. Vibration, sound, visual distortion, and muzzle flash. If you want to go six you can say tracers and impact sign. Those items are either poorly instituted or not present. All weapons sounds and firing effects are grossly understated.

[XboxGirl]

How the heck did the Xbox lose to the PS3. This must be a mistake because the Xbox never loses these comparisons. I'm not worried because the PS3 can win one every year. LOL

[ultimolu]

Maybe because both consoles have their strengths/weaknesses!

Le gasp!

[GUNS N SWORDS]

no, 360's capable of doing more and so is ps3, the game really isn't worth the arguing over for. i could run the game on my pc at 1920x1200 but it just isn't worth the time, space, or even the money.

[Kleptic]

the site is not loading for me for whatever reason...

but if its true what many are saying in the comments...that the 360 version struggles with volumetric particle effects...doesn't that translate exactly that article earlier that crytek just put up?...that the 360's strengths usually translate into shader bandwidth...which for the most part translates into better texture detail between the two systems when dealing with the same texture banks (which is usually the case for a multiplatform title)...

that is double sided though...where the PS3's architecture and media format allow storage room for uncompressed texture data...which DOES offset the shader weaknesses of the RSX...but because the 360 can't do this at all because of DVD, which does not allow room for uncompressed textures for an HD application...it has not once been used for a multiplatform title...DVD, afterall, is not an HD format...this is exactly where games like Killzone 2 and Uncharted 1 and 2 come off with ridiculously perfect texture detail compared to multiplatform B rated games...

on the other side the PS3 shows strengths in calculation intense processing...such as 3D particle effects, procedural processing, such as texture changes and wind calculation, lighting, complex physics based animation patterns, and physics in general...which could be exactly where this multiplatform game is showing better volumetric effects on the PS3...this was stated by Crytek on Sunday...and seems to apply here...

neither system destroys the other overall...but the PS3 definitely has strengths towards newer technology...where as the 360 performs better at tech that his been around since Source and ID Tech 4 engine's release 5 years...and because of that, quite often out performs the PS3 in areas that create great static screen shots...everything the PS3 does best usually involves seeing the game in motion...but whatever...people have their opinions on both systems already...neither side will be convinced that their console isn't better in every way...no matter how many developers tell them the truth...

[XboxBoy]

SHut your trap and make me some eggs.

[OGharryjoysticks]

stay in school. You're onto something.

[Bathyj]

Actually Xbox loses almost as many of these rediculous comparisons as it wins although not usually this bad. We just dont go on about them for 2 years because we're more interested in our real games, the ones we bought the system for, exclusives. I could care less than the PS3 version canes the XB version of movie tie in.

[jaidek]

yeah, the Xbox 360 version of this game looks rough. It's amazing how bad a port can go.

[jack_burt0n]

LOL screen tearing is so bad i want to puke, what!? did he only just notice check out bionic commando, and red faction its so so bad and the ps3 has none. PS3 is best all round with all the recent multi plats seriously.

[ActionBastard]

XboxGirl...hmm...so you look like Greenburg?

[Pennywise]

MEAT THE CREW!

wowomg is old news. Reported.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

FUD FUD FUD

Keep spreading the FUD you liar.

[PirateThom]

I hope they patch some colour into this game.

[ActionBastard]

It'll just be 2MB.

[Kain81]

and it will cost you only 1200M$points/10$

[ActionBastard]

You make girl gamers very, very proud.

"Sony paid this developer off to make the Xbox 360 version suck. That's the only logical answer."

That is CLASSIC!

[ultimolu]

Lol, XBoxGirl is only saying these things to get attention.

[solidjun5]

he/she will call you deragatory names and say something along the lines of "I hope you get disease 'X' and die".

Anyway, how short is this game? It only has like 11 acheivements/trophies (I'm just assuming this is an indication of the lenght of the game...I could be wrong). Anyway, I wasn't interesting in this game and this day and age, I have to be careful with how I spend money on games (i.e., which game is worth the money). However, I must say that the Wolverine game was quite a pleasant surprise. I'm having a blast with that one.

[ActionBastard]

Bubbles! For 2 reasons:

1)Mos Def is the sh!t
2)Wolverine is unbelievably enjoyable. I can't stop playing.

EDIT: Black on Both Sides is one of the best hip hop albums ever, IMO. HIP HOP...not that Soulja Boy BS. I'm listening to Talib too, The Blast, one of my all time favs. Next up...Goodie Mob.

EDIT EDIT: Hip Hop is dead. It's now all this commercial Coke/Pepsi ad garbage. I like more Devin the Dude, Goodie Mob, Big L, Killer Mike, Cool Breeze, Bun B, Nas, Ghostface, Black Moon, Boot Camp Clique, early Ice Cube (Death Certificate!)etc. Damn, I miss the good ole days.

[solidjun5]

This is still one of my favorite albums of all times. I have a list of 20 and it's in there. I know it's off-topic but I'm listening to Talib Kweli 'Quality' album right now.

Wolverine surprised the hell out of me. I expect it to be cheap movie tie-in but walked away enjoying the fun factor with the game. That's how movie tie-ins should be played.

bubbles up homie.

EDIT: ooo that's a good one. I'm doing duty with 'Quality' and Relapse (Eminem). After that, I'll go back and listen to Little Brother; The minstral. I love Goodie Mob too. Good music right there. I hate that Soulja Boi music mess. That's why I supported Nas (still one of my favorite) when he came out with that 'Hip Hop is Dead' album. I believed it too.

[ActionBastard]

Someone send this to THQ...

[XboxGirl]

The Xbox 360 version should have been Terminated from the get go. Anyway it's fake the Xbox 360 version looks better on my tv. I have full RGB enabled using HDMI and I dont see screen tearing on my tv. All the lighting effects are there too.

[ActionBastard]

Sure it does Boo. Sure it does.

[ape007]

oh my how the hell can you say that,I recommend you this is not a good way to get attention,this is a disgrace to yourself and if you are happy laughing behind the screen just THINK of how much time,money,internet etc... you waste to write all that
crap

my god,gamers now a days look for SILLY THING to feel proud of

sad,really sad,what's even makes it worse is that THEY ARE ALL GROWN UP

I hope you'r just joking

[XboxBoy]

WTF B!tch I told you not to leave the house.
Now come back and make me some eggs.

[The Pheen-X]

WTF thats ur girl, damn man, I couldnt seem to get her off my sac yesterday.

[aaron5829]

Using the old Sony fans tactics eh ?

Full RGB ! HDMI ! FAKE !! GameTrailers !!

Lol

[SpoonyRedMage]

Yer, this is the one AAA game that really matters what platform it's better on!

Who cares about Modern Warfare 2, we have Terminator Salvation!

/sarcasm

[Sunny_D]

still it doesn't matter. it won't stop the fanboys from bragging. Just like all the past multiplat games in the past that were so small in comparison but they still see a difference.

[jaidek]

Well, there where some big differences in this multiplat.

Definitely not the best movie based game...I would take X-Men Origins: Wolverine over this any day. The Terminator world would be the perfect fit for a FPS, if it didn't have to tie to the movie. And if they didn't have GRIN doing the development.

[SpoonyRedMage]

Oh I know, the differences are negligible in the majority of cases but if they reallt want to brag about this game being superior they're welcome to because more important than the fact the game runs better on the PS3 is the fact that games a pile of poo.

[ActionBastard]

I must agree. Regardless of how it looks, the game is trash. 11 trophies, 10 of which are gold and 1 plat. You can also beat it in 4hrs. Hell, I may rent this just to trophy whore.

[Christopher]

to waste some time while I'm at work. Honestly, I have no care in the world about this game otherwise. I am surprised at how crappy the 360 version looks, but it doesn't do anything to diminish the 360 or enhance the PS3. Like most things, it's all a matter of how much was invested into each version of the game.

[ShabzS]

had the same result... the 360 version fell a little short... grin is still using thier inhouse diesel engine... guess it runs better on ps3 all round

[ultimolu]

Lol, to be honest Gametrailers gave this game a pretty bad score.

[Sea_Man]

Holy crap the Xbox got spanked!! I can't get over that 4th picture. what a pile of poop port, if I worked on that game I would be pissed!

[THC CELL]

Lol nuff said this game is awesome on ps3
hahhaha

no comments from the mooks i see
what the F is a mooks

[blackbeld]

PS3 is the Winner..... again..

[Sir Ken_Kutaragi]

'KILLZONE 2' WINS!!! ;-P (AGAIN) ;)

[Tempjf]

Dude you suck! that's all you ever post. dumb Jap

[Pootangpie]

to make one look better then the other

[Sea_Man]

Dude, they did this comparison live last Friday. That's right live and in your face and I witness the ass kicking first hand! how do you fake that?

[jaidek]

Yeah, if you wanted to see the Terminator Salvation live feed from last Friday check out http://www.justin.tv/lensof...

There is no faking a live feed.

[MGOelite]

NOBODY BUY THIS DAM GAME! ITS IS 4 HOURS LONG!!!. + NO ONLINE!!!

[THC CELL]

Thats it im selling my xbox
forget this poor rubbish

T is the best game ever and i wanted it to be the best on xbox

[d0nT wOrrY]

PS3 is #1
3fixme is garbage, show yourself mooks you retard

[MUNKYPOO]

this just goes to show bad porting from either console can happen. so all those multiplat game looking inferrior on the ps3 is the same as this. it was never a hardware issue. let the exclusive games speak for themselves

[-MoOkS-]

Fight Night Round 4 and that Rainbow THQ game look better on 360.

Both those games look to be a better quality than some random terminator game.

Just wait until the FFXIII and MW2 comparisons, droids will be nowhere to be seen, they'll be to busy crying in the fetal position wondering why they spent more $ on a console that gets beat by a far cheaper product.

[DavidMacDougall]

None of that matters child, Metal Gear, Uncharted, GT5, Infamous and Killzone 2 are better than any multi platform game

[-MoOkS-]

Really?

MGS4 - http://i293.photobucket.com...

I'm a huge fan of mgs4,but i'll be first to admit it's not the prettiest game around

Uncharted 2 - http://i293.photobucket.com...

I'd say Fight Night R4 looks better than both of them.

[DavidMacDougall]

Hhhmm...2 guys and a ring is f**k all to make look good compaired to all this ...

http://truegamer.files.word...

Uncharted wins hands down and of course you'll be putting all your love behide a multi cause thats all you've got LOL

Edit @ peeps - For uncharted it wasn't hard

[peeps]

its good to see you went to the effort of finding high quality pics to represent both of those games

[Sony Rep]

Dude got owned. thanks for the new bookmark!

[talltony]

WHAT a bot! dude those images arent even done loading especially the MGS4 one and You know it. MGS4 is one of the prettiest looking games around. Uncharted 2 looks much better than that if you watched it in hd. Want me to post that image of gears you hate so much this time cause I will.

And also you must just be feeling so butthurt right now. Cause didnt you just say earlier that ps3 games are much muddier and darker well things seem to be changing my friend cause the ps3 just wiped the floor with the 360 version this time around. And all you can say is, "Both those games look to be a better quality than some random terminator game." ouch!

[Tetsuryu]

Mooks, that screenshot you posted of MGS4 was from a 2006 build.

http://ps3.ign.com/dor/obje...

Snake's model has gone through some iterations, which include (but not limited to) facial alterations, re-texturing work, etc. Notably the color of his Octocamo (default) went from a black to a more navy blue.

Let the retail (final build) footage speak for itself.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Sea_Man]

What a pile of poop!

[peeps]

just goes to show that all the times 360 was lead, ps3 ports were actually doing a pretty gd job (at least in recent times). Switch it round with ps3 as lead and it shows you that it is all about the lead platform and not what console is 'more powerful'

[peeps]

and your an idiot lmao when you say something like that do you seriously believe what you're saying. Or are you jsut doing it because you only own the 1 console?

[Socomer 1979]

Mooks you are a baby tard.
wipe the drool from your lips youre embarrasing yourself.
goo goo gah gah.

[ULTIMATE_REVENGE]

a good looking game looks better on the PS3 let me tell you why, Terminator salvation has so many particle effects something the PS3 can handle with ease since it has 200+GigaFlops, but the 360 only has 77 GigaFlops, which means the 360 is completely useless on a game like this, and plus the graphics out shine anything seen on the 360 hence why the 3sh1ty cant handle it,

To Jak Who: shaders my ass!

[The Lazy One]

that was really pretty horrible. I don't know how the devs can consider that passable. It was really quite horrible.

Other than the screen tearing the two games aren't as bad as the article makes it seem, but that's a real crappy thing to have in the game. Especially to that degree. I was also surprised at the HDR lighting, which has been done on the 360 tons of times with ease.

@"it was so abundant it even happened in the pre-rendered cut scenes" in the article.

This dude needs to read up on what pre-rendered means. If it's pre-rendered it won't have screen tearing, because that only happens in real time rendering, or when you're using some sort of retarded renderer.

[Sea_Man]

Yes! Screen tearing can happen in a pre-render scenes and in in-game rendering. I think you need to read up on the definition of screen tearing.

[The Lazy One]

A prerendered video should be in a format that's fully compatible with whatever TV you're using. There's no reason screen tearing should occur if a scene is already rendered at an fps that works for standard TV.

Someone would have to be incredibly stupid to overlook something like that.

[jaidek]

I know what you are saying, a pre-rendered movie should playback the same no matter what. There shouldn't be any frame tearing, its the same as playing a DVD or movie file. The problem is that there is screen tearing in the cinematics (which are prerendered) on the Xbox 360 version. This was also apparent in Wanted: Weapons of Fate, another GRIN game that uses the same engine. There is something in the way they handle video playback on the Xbox 360.

[The Lazy One]

I can't imagine any situation outside of poor programming where a video would playback with screen tearing.

If there's screen tearing in pre-rendered video, that's really quite unacceptable programming.

[TheMART]

Ah its one game in 100 that looks good on the PS3? Congrats! Too bad the game itself sucks though...

[II Necroplasm II]

What a great game to win with

lol

[peeps]

360 game ported to Ps3 = 360 has the edge
PS3 game ported to 360 = PS3 has the edge (or in this case a really big edge lol)

Just happens that more developers will write games with 360 as the lead platfrom with its architecture being so similar to a pcs and then port leading to shoddy versions on PS3.

To say that the PS3 versions of multi-plats is because the ps3 isn't powerful enough is embaressing tbh

[GUNKILLA]

proves ps3 is takeing over now

[ipe]

terminate urself.

U obviusly never touched mgs4.Textures are amazing,transition from animation to gameplay also,i havent seen that on mass effect and gearse 1 which i ve played.

And fnr4 looks better than uncharted,kz2?
just 2 charachters on screen are better than ridicilous amount of effects at same time???? sory dude only pure fanboy can claim that.

i dont care about these compa.but for ur info its not 1 of 100 games..
oblivion,gta4,dmc4...are better on ps3.
But i have exklusives which shows more than multi.

[Spike47]

Either way, even if the PS3 won, as a PS3 only owner, why do you people care?

[Information Minister]

There's only one lesson to be learned from these comparisons, and I think we all agree on that one: "Lens of Truth needs better servers".

[The Lazy One]

When it took me 10 minutes to load their web page.

[Tempjf]

Weird I'm not having any problems connecting to their site. ??

[Tempjf]

I think it's important not to get bagged buying the Xbox version, I'm getting the game and I was gonna buy the Xbox one. I would have been pissed!

[Information Minister]

I guess you're right. When I wrote the first comment I couldn't get the site to open and it just never occurred to me that there was such a big difference. It's been a long time since we've seen a game perform so differently between PS3 and 360. I just didn't expect that.

*EDIT* But I still think Lens of Truth needs better servers.

[siyrobbo]

this game is utter tosh anyway. A case of the ps3 having the polished turd

[Rob0g0rilla]

This game looks terrible on both consoles.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Comparisons a side what an ugly, good awful crap looking and playing game.

Who cares who won it's a POS that has flop written all over it.

[PS3Freak]

apparently the 360 version is worse? thats sad because ive already played through this game and the ps3 version looked awful. This game is crap by the way, you can beat it in 4 hours. If you want to read up on all the problems this game has (ALOT) then read my user review.

[Soul Train]

Sometimes the sun shines on a dogs a**, or something like that. Too bad the game blows. The PS3 can keep it!

[xg-ei8ht]

Soul train, i thought you'd say that.

When the 360 wins the head to head, the game is awsome isn't it,lol.

[swinesucker]

grin did bionic commando rearmed right

that was also better on the ps3 with less soft shadows and screen tearing more apparent on the 360

[CobraKai]

So that's what happens when devs make an effort on the PS3.

[LONEWOLF231]

Can you say Biased review???
This guy is clearly a fanboy and it doesnt take a lens to see that from 1 million miles away. Ill give this game a shot and see if what he says is true or not. Rental of coarse since my money is going to Bionic Commando and inFamous.

[jaidek]

Even the most hardcore Xbox 360 fanboy will agree that the PS3 won this round. Just look at the pictures and watch the video...