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This Game Can Only Run On _____...

CGReviews.com writes:

"In this race of consoles, it seems that we are hearing more and more often the following phrase: "Platform 'X' wouldn't not be able to handle Game 'X'." Surely I am not the only person who is sick of hearing this. So, I set out to find some examples of this phrase--and how to prove them wrong."

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Megaton5872d ago (Edited 5872d ago )

Well it's obviously PR in some cases, but if you have a functioning pair of eyes, you can see that the 360 really hasn't produced a game with graphics on par with the top tier PS3 exclusives, so it makes the claim seem pretty accurate in other cases.

morganfell5872d ago

Interesting how they complain now that the PS3 is beginning to stretch it's legs.

sonarus5872d ago

Whatever this guy says should be taken with a grain of salt. He is the same person that put up a fake infamous review.

nveenio5872d ago

@ sonarus

I agree. I don't think I'll ever bring one of his reviews to N4G again (unless it's accompanied by his own video or screenshots, and not lame rip offs). But this article (and the one about Microsoft and Innovation) really gets me thinking about the industry and how Microsoft seems none-to-eager to push it forward.

sonarus5872d ago

Microsoft is in a position of dominance over sony. They are forever satisfied as long as they outsell sony. So don't expect much from them until things change.

Elven65872d ago

Microsoft dropped the ball this time, last generation they had a first party that really pushed the system to its limits, (FASA, Bungie, etc). They had a equal harmony of console pushers and gameplay pushers, now that balance has been overthrown, if PD2 is real it will probably be the console pusher in my opinion.

If anything the DVD factor really hurts the console, HD DVD was a perfectly reasonable option and Microsoft was set to gain greatly if HD DVD won. (licensing fees from their codecs and the HDi interface)

PirateThom5872d ago

Problem is, HD DVD would have increased the price of the console and probably delayed its launch bringing it very, very close to the PS3 and Wii, probably killing the jump it had to get developers on board as well as consumers.

menoyou5872d ago

If you're sick of hearing it then stop asking them. The jouranlist was the one who asked Heavy Rain producer. He didn't just bring it up.

You know what I'm sick of? Lame gaming sites bringing up lame sensational headlines like this one that has ZERO news. YOUR OPINION IS NOT NEWS. And for crying out loud this exact same thing was posted yesterday, maybe by another lame game site.

RememberThe3575872d ago (Edited 5872d ago )

If it was being said about 360 games these fake ass journalists wouldn't have a problem.

To be honest, it doesn't really matter. There were a ton of games that could only run on the Xbox, yet the PS2 still demolished it in quantity and quality. In the end only the games matter, the graphics are just a plus.

@Spoony: That's a good point. But I have to wonder how much it's the dev saying it and how much it's journalist asking about it.

Maybe if they stopped asking about it they'd stop hearing about it. Maybe.

SpoonyRedMage5872d ago (Edited 5872d ago )

I agree with RememberThe357 and bubbles for such a intelligent comment. Graphics don't mean everything.

I do think however that even more people would hate MS now if last gen they had all their devs pointing out that it couldn't run on the PS2.

EDIT: Perhaps it is the journalist trying to get some hits by having something contraversial but it seems to me like a prepared response.

4Sh0w5872d ago

I take it as PR talk, nothing more. I own both, I have a superb hdtv and I just don't see this graphics gap between the best looking 360 games vs best looking ps3 games. Then again I don't have x-ray vision and I never counted the pixels on screen. So I guess me and my friends are just normal gamers that laugh at those who swear this or that game can't be done on the other console.

Elven65872d ago

Pirate: The drives were relatively cheap at the time and Microsoft was apparently already making a profit on the 360 at launch. According to various ex HDi team members Toshiba had given Microsoft prototype HD DVD drives in mid 2005, they could have easily set things up without delaying launch, worst case by a few weeks. Given the PS3 was delayed Microsoft would still have a lead, how much? I don't know.

They may have taken a hit at launch but it could be assumed the format war would have lasted longer or even the scenario that HD DVD would have won had the 360 ensured success at a good pricepoint. Every Blu Ray and HD DVD that uses the VC-1 codec Microsoft makes a cut from, had Blu Ray also used HDi Microsoft would be making a even bigger cut. In the long run if Microsoft did something with HD DVD they could have stood to make a more money in the long run.

Viper75872d ago

This is all just bullshit from all the game developers. Ofcourse Killzone2 might not be playable by X360 in its current form, there might be some effects that it cant handle, but same goes in both sides.

Games can be developed for every platform, within limits of that platform. There might be some things that X360/Ps3/Wii cant handle, but it doesnt make it imbossible to do similar game on these consoles.

Wiis wiimote is no exception. Ps3 and X360 could probably both handle similar gamepad without any trouble. USB:s are very versatile when it comes to things like gamepads. Same goes for PC games, gamepads can be inserted to PC and Keyboard and mouse can be inserted to consoles so no genre is imbossible due to "hardware" limitations.

Killzone does include really nice graphics, but thats just to cover of the book. If X360 cant handle some of the effects or graphics do something else instead what it can do. Same goes with Gears of war.

heroicjanitor5872d ago

If one person posts an article the other guy posts an article saying he hates the way etc

If you want to argue with someone do it in the comments section not through articles!!!!!

soxfan20055872d ago (Edited 5872d ago )

@1.11

I remember when 360 was launched, some publication took one apart and added up the costs of the components, just like is dome with most electronics nowadays. The cost to MS of a launch 360 (pro model) was around $550. Adding an HD-DVD drive would have almost certainly put the retail cost of a 360 out of the reach of most people at the time. Fortunately for Sony, the power of the Playstation name allowed them to launch at a very high price point more successfully than any other company that has ever tried to launch a high priced console.

commodore645871d ago

This crazy damage control and fanboyism is only possible on ps3.

DelbertGrady5871d ago

I remember the days when gameplay was the deciding factor for gamers.

II Necroplasm II5871d ago (Edited 5871d ago )

That's everything but the PS3 ;)

Anon19745871d ago (Edited 5871d ago )

He said "This crazy damage control and fanboyism is only possible on ps3."

I disagree. The comments we're talking about were comments from developers talking about their product, and who would know better what is required of their product than the people making it? If anything the ones who seem to be in damage control mode seem to be the 360 camp.
It's all very confusing to me. As someone pointed out earlier in another news thread, no one argued the Sega Genesis could handle Dreamcast games, no one argued that the PS2 could handle original Xbox games - it was just common sense that new hardware would outperform old, and we've seen this continue with the PS3 vs the 360. No one's taking anything away from the 360, it's a great system, it's just older, using older tech and we've seen the PS3 pulling away with exclusive game after exclusive game.

Why is this so threatening to 360 fans? It was only a matter of time before something better came along, just like it's only a matter of time until the PS3 is replaced. This does nothing to negate what these systems have to offer gamers. Everyone knows the PS2 isn't as powerful as the current crop, but we should dismiss what the PS2 still has to offer gamers who have never experienced it, and true to form it's still immensely popular.

So what's so special about 360 fans? I'm a 360 owner and fan and I don't have any illusions about the 360 being the best game platform because it's simply not anymore. It was my favorite console by far back in 2007, but it's not 2007 anymore and the gaming world moves on. PS2 fans aren't flooding the forums with talk of why their console is the best, they're content to simply game. Why can't 360 fans? As a gamer there's something in every single console out there, and I don't care if you want to game on a 360, Atari 2600, a Wii, a 360 - I rejoice at every new gamer entering the fold but I don't understand people who have turned gaming into corporate cheerleading in the face of the facts.

Also, to those using multiple accounts to reduce my bubbles, nicely done. Down from 9 bubbles to 6 in only a matter of days. Take a bow. You strike a blow against gamers for fanboys everywhere.

commodore645871d ago (Edited 5871d ago )

"Just a quick comment on Commodore's post."
well, that was the longest 'quick' comment i have ever seen! :)

Unfortunately, the ongoing inferior ps3 multiplat saga continues and, after all is said and done, the 360 has weathered the storm that was supposed to be the ps3 dominance.

Most of what is left of the diehards are the remnants that cling to the 'potential' argument, while ignoring how close the battle really is and continues to be.

Let's face it, both the ps3 and 360 are now somewhat dated, in terms of hardware. To say otherwise is getting sillier by the minute. (Of course the real debate centers around which of the two is ever so slightly better, in dated terms)

I bring up the multitude (hundreds) of proven inferior ps3 multiplats, others bring up kz2 and uc2.
Yadda, yadda. round and round we go.

Ultimately exlusive developers will hype their own gravytrain. Can you imagine Aaron Greenberg associating with anyone who speaks in less than stellar terms about the 360? What about Ken Kutaragi/Kaz Hirai? Would they admit to their loyal fans exactly how well the 360 has really done?

An exclusive developer will hype his chosen platform until the cows come home, and the starving fanboys will lap it up with glee.
Pray, tell me: What is he supposed to say?
Where is his bread buttered?

Think.

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ShabzS5872d ago (Edited 5872d ago )

does not adopt more custom engines on its exclusives the 360 wont get pushed... exclusives like gears and mass effect are devloped by third party studios... and thrid party studios usually tend to save lot of money and resources by adopting middleware engines like unreal...

basically if you wanna push your console to the max you need a development team of you own who can build an engine designed specifically for your console that will push your hardware to the max... but for that development team you need your own first party studios...

nveenio5872d ago

I agree. It seems like Sony is fighting against all odds because they HAVE to. Their console costs more, their multiplats aren't always as polished, etc. If Sony doesn't push their hardware, then they would never have managed to sell 23 million of them, and the 360 would already be the victor. Maybe Microsoft just doesn't feel like they have to do anything extra, yet? Who knows?

PirateThom5872d ago

I've always said this. The 360 is capable of a lot more than Unreal Engine 3 can offer. I don't think there's any limitation with the 360, I think it's UE3 reaching the end of its life that's the problem. Even Capcom's MT Framework engine gets better results on 360, in my opinion.

Elven65872d ago

I think Mass Effect and Gears are funded by Microsoft, and Unreal is Epic's engine, if anything they would have the latest tech before anyone else and the knowledge to push the system better then other third parties.

green5872d ago (Edited 5872d ago )

All of you are correct and it's a shame that Microsoft does not have a single internally developed game that can act as a graphical showcase for the 360.Rare actually has a good engine that was used for Banjo:nuts and bolts and viva pinata 2,the only problem is that they have not been able to produce a game that is deserving of such and engine because in my personal opinion Banjo: Nuts and Bolt looks better or is at least on par with Gears 2.Lets see if they can pull some wonders with PD2.

Turn 10's community manager stated " Che points out that he has been "spending quite a lot of time just admiring the game from a visual standpoint", adding that "the past few weeks have seen the graphics really come into its own" http://gaming.hexus.net/con... e3 is around so it looks like we won't have to wait to see Forza 3 can really shine graphically.

SpoonyRedMage5872d ago

Resident Evil 5 looks so much better than Gears and it kind of shows that the 360 does have more potential. If FFXIII runs the same on both platforms it will show that the 360 hasn't been utilised fully in the past(even though FFXIII may not be a technically impressive as say KZ2). I think the 360 needs it's own "The Conduit" something to push to the console.

I do think that "xx can't run on the 360" is getting annoying though. They say it for preety much every game and a lot of the time their developers who only work on the PS3 and they phrase it the same way.

RememberThe3575872d ago (Edited 5872d ago )

I have to agree, that if the 360 had more custom engines we would be seeing much more from the console.

Unfortunately Microsoft's internal development teams have yet to show that they can push their console past anything that third party engines can put out.

Guitarded5872d ago

(except Morganfail) for an intelligent, thoughtful discourse.

-chaz-5872d ago

The Halo 3 engine is surprisingly powerful, I think Bungie really dropped the ball designing the environments. I'd love to see another Halo NOT done by Bungie and their ass-ugly environments with the same engine. There are moments in Halo 3 where the outdoor lighting is stunningly realistic.

Looking over the deferred rendering doc for Killzone 2 ( http://www.develop-conferen... I don't see any rendering techniques that aren't standard in DirectX, so it's pretty likely that if Guerilla Games had to work on the Xbox for another game, they could manage something equally spectacular.

Developers live for challenges. To say that something can't be done is pretty close-minded; it's most likely just marketing BS.

Megaton5872d ago (Edited 5872d ago )

I agree that you'd see much better 360 games graphically if their 1st party wasn't practically nonexistent. Most 3rd party games get bogged down in UE3 territory, so they can really only go so far. The best you'll get on that engine is from Epic.

I also agree that Resident Evil 5 is the best looking 360 game on the market, and that Lost Planet 2 boss fight footage looks really solid, so the power is there, it's just not being utilized very well. They need a 1st party dev to dig deep into the console's guts and pull out a custom engine the way Sony does, but they just don't have the resources.

RememberThe3575872d ago

Bungie was able to keep the charm of the gameplay that made the first two title so successful, but they weren't able to keep up graphically with the rest of the high profile games that where launched for this generation.

I don't remember seeing anything in Halo 3 that was graphically impressive, but if your right and Bungie just didn't put their engine to proper use then maybe we will see something cool in ODST or some other title using the engine.

Arnon5872d ago (Edited 5872d ago )

Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts is seriously one of the nicest looking games I've seen. And yes, it is on par with Gears of War 2. And it's because they used a engine specifically made for the 360.

Guys not trying to bug or anything, but I highly recommend playing the full version of Nuts & Bolts. Especially on a HDTV.

It's a very enjoyable game. And, in my opinion, is highly underrated.

When you see games that are specifically built on the 360 such as Fable 2 and B-K.. You know the 360 has more potential than just the UE3. Because both of those games in my eyes, top Gears of War 2 in environmental detail (without a doubt on that), texure detail, polygons, etc.

-chaz-5872d ago (Edited 5872d ago )

@RememberThe357

It was mainly the lighting quality that struck me in Halo 3's outdoor environments. There were a few times in one particular stage of the campaign (it was the stage where you come out of the jungle and out onto a Covenant base) where I looked up to see dropships landing and the lighting looked just like a global illuminated shot from a CG movie.

It's impressive tech, just wasted on Bungie.

@Arnon
Yeah, Rare has a nice looking engine on the 360. Even the Viva Pinata games look great - albeit cartoony. Kind of makes me wish the Wii were not so last gen, Mario with a similar engine would be a gamer's dream come true.

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Mu5afir5872d ago

It's true, there are games that can't run on other systems in their "ORIGINAL" form. Arguing that they can be run "gimped", defeats the purpose. Can Killzone 2 be done on the Wii? Yes, but can the Killzone on the Ps3 be done on the Wii? NO.

nveenio5872d ago

That's true. I think the better argument is, "Can the game deliver the same experience on another platform?" Let's face it, you could do Wii Sports on any platform, but it wouldn't be the same experience. This is why the Wii is so popular. You just can't get that experience somewhere else. I'm thinking that Sony is trying to create its own experience like the Wii, but for a harder core of gamers.

infamous_275872d ago

You know, I love PS3 more than any console out now. But you're getting on my nerves!

jBat175872d ago

only two things can only run on a crapbox: RRoD and E74.. and i hope it stays that way

dream on, xbots.. crapbox cannot handle MGS4.. crapbox cannot run KZ2.. and now, infamous, heavy rain and uncharted 2 is only possible on the PS3.. cry moar xbots

xbollox5872d ago (Edited 5872d ago )

now that PS3 is undeniably showing its muscles, the morons who've indulged in PS3 bashing are feeling uneasy, hahahahaha!

it's like a little obnoxious kid starting a fight with a bigger kid and then the bigger kid finally pays attention and gives the little kid a humiliating whooping in front of everybody and then the little kid begs for mercy: "i was just kidding, the whole fighting thing is overrated after all, can't we just all get along?"

it must be a hilarious spectacle for you Ken, in'it? :P
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Shadow Man5872d ago

At least we can chat with people over xboxlive, have private team parties.

Not like in psn can't even play music while gaming or "chat" during gameplay.

Enjoy your textation3rd.

Sir Ken_Kutaragi5872d ago (Edited 5872d ago )

Use your Brain then(if you got one)and Press 'Ignore' under my Photo???
Easy really!!! ;-D

@xbollox ;) I'm with you mate;) I do laugh at them all(ChatBots)!!! ;-D
They hate it when they don't get their way, it's very funny to watch!!! ;-D

+ i don't know why they say things to me, whoever they are it's not like a give a T0SS what they think anyway!!! ;-D

Bubbles4u2;)

NewZealander5872d ago

chatbot? ouch now that hurts lol.

look this site is getting pathetic, the ps3 fanboy #1 throws childish comments then the other ps3 fanboys come in and pat fanboy #1 on the back, its so sad.

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ChampIDC5872d ago

I don't think anyone but a fool can't see that the 360 is an older, less powerful console than the PS3. Honestly, I couldn't care less anyway, because a good game doesn't need the most crisp graphics in the world. There are plenty of ways to make a stylish game without graphical power.

But some people really do care about graphics, unlike me. To each his own. That's where gaming really shines. There's something for everyone.

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Gears of War 2 Remake was in development “10 years ago” but was scrapped by Xbox

Ayi Sanchez: "Old work. I did this 10 years ago now as part of a material test for a remaster of Gears of War 2 that never happened."

RaidenBlack95d ago

lolz,
hope we're still getting Gears 2 & 3 for PC, as per rumors

Cacabunga94d ago

Xbox always taking the right decisions

XiNatsuDragnel95d ago

Wow... just wow Microsoft sigh at it again 😑

Lightning7794d ago

Weird, in mean they had no studios to make anything really new so there's a part of me thats kinda glad they scrapped it. If they released this back then it would of gotten ridiculed for remakes and remastering stuff. Now they have new and interesting games so the collection is harmless.

CrimsonWing6994d ago

Geez, Xbox, something like that I would’ve bought Day 1. Great business decisions over there.

lucasnooker94d ago

10 years ago it wasn’t such a big deal. The games were only a few years old by that point

CrimsonWing6994d ago

Gears of War: Ultimate Edition came out in 2015 (essentially 10 years ago), having a follow-up to that on the then next-gen console would’ve absolutely been welcomed, in my book.

LoveSpuds94d ago

I can only assume the the Gears of War Remaster flopped so they decided to scrap the other remakes?

Seems short sighted to me as I really enjoyed the 1st remaster. Regardless, I'll snap up some remakes to play on my PS5.

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50 Best PS3 Games of All Time

The PlayStation 3 is Sony’s most interesting home console ever, but what’s most interesting of all is trying to nail down the very best games on a console with hundreds of incredible games. Let’s give it a shot.

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darthv72102d ago

Personally, I'd rank Pacific Rift in my top 10. It's the best of the series.

badz149102d ago

We desperately need Motorstorm back. Evolution is no more though and this makes me sad

Cacabunga102d ago

Sly Thieves in Time
Stay the Party
Portal 2
Dj Hero
Demon’s Souls
God of war Ascension

rudero102d ago

2 of those games got railed through the “gaming media” during release.
Sly and god of war.
Both of which were fantastic games.

Cacabunga101d ago

Ascension is VERY underrated. Remake please!

Venoxn4g102d ago

Decent list.. I would put the Castle Crashers as well..

1Victor102d ago

Yes it’s a decent list of popular games with a heavy hand on FPS and no Warhawk or Starhawk 2 of the best games (not sale wise) on ps3.
I would buy a Starhawk again even if it didn’t have a graphics upgrade hell I would even take a new one with micro transactions 😱🤯

Profchaos102d ago

I've noticed a recent nostalgia for the PS3 and I don't get it for me it's been my least favourite generation to date and I've been gaming since the NES I just feel like the ambition of the developers outweighed the capabilities of the consoles so I remember lots of games running in the lower end of 20fps range and I remember for the first time ever actually disliking the duelshock 3 and it's curved triggers

Sure there were some standouts and great games but that's the only gen I switched entirely to PC gaming

darthv72102d ago

Maybe the recent nostalgia is because pretty much all of its games are trapped on that console. People want to play them on more modern hardware. hell... if XB can do it then so can Sony. there are competent emulators out there that can run on PS4/5 hardware but Sony just wont let them become official... why is that?

If we are talking least favorite generations (personally) then this one is certainly mine. i had more fun playing 8th, 7th and 6th gen stuff than 9th. And it isnt like i dont have access to do so... the heavy hitters just havent shown up anywhere close to those previous gens. The few here and there just doesnt cut it compared to the likes of constant good games that showed up in 6th, 7th and 8th gen. hell.... I'll even throw in 5th gen has been better than this one.

Profchaos102d ago

I tend to agree there's lots of amazing games locked to the PS3 like GTA IV or mgs 4 but then again my issue was never with the content the PS3 had but rather it's performance many other people have said the PS3 felt like it couldn't walk and chew bubblegum at the same time using PSN and downloading a game could take a few minutes to just start a download.

I typically don't worry all that much about performance I've never had a problem with games that run at 30 but games like crysis 2, Skyrim are good examples where the performance was so unstable you would never even touch the top of the frame cap and the hitching was worse than say Goldeneye on the n64

I think emulation is more than possible on the ps5 though it's just that Sony has no incentive to rush it's development it will likely be a ps6 feature if it ever happens at all.

But yeah the 9th gen has been so bad from a content perspective thats a given I see constant articles where people are frequently expressing their disappointment around the industry as a whole right now to much live service competition that sinks longstanding studios and consumes Devs time less ambition and games cost so much to make they have to play it safe.

The 5th gen was easily better than the 9th we had some all time greats crash, Spyro, Tony hawk, mgs, Mario,64, Goldeneye, Mario kart 64 the list goes on. The 5th gave us a new dimension and I remember being blown away by how much more open gaming had become the 4th gen with the mega drive and SNES was great and very easy to still revisit some of the greatest games of all time came out like earthbound, secret of mana, sonic , Mario world etc but saving our games was still not a standard function or a given so gaming was still evolving but it was very impressive to see some of the tricks Devs used like dithering to give us new experiences those earlier gens limitations bred innovation.

Michiel1989102d ago

if XB can do it so can sony? I didn't know xbox had a cell processor in their older consoles, that's the reason why ps3 was so cool, but also the reason why games are hostage there and no, xbox did nothing similar even though their backward compatbility is good, they always had a similar architecture to their consoles.

darthv72101d ago

Sorry Michael... I guess you missed the obvious part where i said there are already emulators out that do this. and that is what XB is doing... emulators for OG and 360 games. Its why the full slate is not BC on XBO/Series.

coolbeans102d ago (Edited 102d ago )

The list is missing Folklore.

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Gears Of War Creator Urges Devs To Make Single-Player Games Amid EA's Live Service Focus

Gears of War's creator has spoken out against the trend of turning established franchises into live services, urging developers to focus on single-player experiences.

Relientk77127d ago

I agree with Cliff for once.

Single player games > GaaS

JEECE127d ago

Too bad he didn't have this opinion when he chased trends with Lawbreakers. Or when he chased trends with Radical Heights.

Popsicle127d ago (Edited 127d ago )

He learned from the mistake or he wouldn’t be advocating for more single player experiences. I find this refreshing in a world where we often see people so stubborn that they tend to double down on a mistake which results in making things even worse. Seriously, good for him!

JEECE127d ago

@Popsicle

Oh for sure, better late than never. And better to somewhat own up to your mistakes, rather than just blaming your release window, or advertising partners, or gamers lol.

anast126d ago

@Popsicle

Of course we will never know his intentions, but it's hard to believe he is just a naive agent that is learning from his mistakes.

-Foxtrot127d ago

He could have done one himself after Gears of War but he did Lawbreakers…look how that turned out.

RaidenBlack127d ago

Not converting Jawbreakers into F2P was the final nail in the CliffyB coffin.

Knushwood Butt127d ago

Jawbreakers would have been a better name! Heck, I might just go and trademark that right now.

BISHOP-BRASIL126d ago

@Knushwood

Aren't those a kind of candy already?

coolbeans127d ago

You're missing the point. His studio's short lifespan is what *inspired* him to make this comment in the first place.

-Foxtrot127d ago

Oh I know the point...I'm just stating the obvious and how stupid he was in the beginning to jump on a trend he had no real experience in. A first person hero shooter with heavy GaaS elements is a lot different than the multiplayer in Gears of War.

He'd have been better creating something like Gears of War again, a great single player story and a good online mode.

coolbeans127d ago

-"A first person hero shooter with heavy GaaS elements is a lot different than the multiplayer in Gears of War."

I mean... you're kinda muddying terms when Gears has always had a strong multiplayer component. Even if I grant you that, Cliffy B started cementing himself at Epic with Unreal Tournament, which was among the earliest shooter series to have "proto-GaaS elements" (downloadable maps, cosmetics, special editions that bundle stuff together). Lawbreakers and Radical Heights (were it finished) weren't major career shifts to him like they would be for, say, Fumito Ueda.

Regardless of that, it's still kinda useless to state the obvious when CliffyB himself made his comments with the benefit of hindsight already.

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CrimsonWing69127d ago (Edited 127d ago )

Look, these a-hole publishers can do this, in fact I want them to, so they can f*ck around and find out and fail hard scaring away everyone else from doing this live service push.

This industry is run by some of the dumbest corporate pieces of sh*t I’ve ever seen. They spend stupid amount of money with literally nothing that stands out from games from the previous generation (look at Arkham Knight to the $200 mill Suicide Squad comparison vids), you’re overpaying devs, and you focus on games as a service to milk consumers that a lot of them grew up off traditional games. We’re not idiots, we sniff this sh*t out and won’t touch it.

So, what’s your answer to not getting a ROI? Raise game prices and double down on GaaS so you can suck your consumers dry. That model only works for some games and even then how in hell do you expect it to work with multiple games!? They’re ruining the damn hobby with this corporate greed.

Cut back on dev budgets, cut back on how much your staff is getting paid, until sales for games bring in a profit. That’s the answer and make some games that feel like there’s passion behind them, not some cookie cut up game that feels like the entire existence behind it is to offer as little as it can with repetitive bullsh*t and selling off all this content throughout its life. It’s gross.

anast126d ago

I agree with every point here.

Redemption-64126d ago

Games do bring in a profit, it's the greed that is killing the industry. Here is a fact, live service games overall make more, significantly more money than single player games

What you should be asking is executives not wanting continuous growth or firing them. Saying devs should be fired when those who are fitting the bills and setting unrealistic expectations would make things worse. What do y9u think would happen if they released say, 30 single player games and over half of them fail? You are going after the wrong crowd.

DankSinatra127d ago

About time he learned. I guess he finally stopped blaming everyone else and took accountability for his mistakes and realized that people really don't care that much for trends or live service.

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