My Exclusive Game can't run on your Console

Don @ Gamingvice.net writes:

"What is it with Developers saying that a game they are creating can't run on a competing console? Usually they ramble on about the processor, chip or some other hardware that "let's us take advantage of such-and-such feature". This is just another cheap way to market your game without spending advertising dollars while giving people something to read about your game…while creating a buzz about it."

[qface64]

i don't know why but i have always found that character and that screen annoying

[chaosatom]

On topic:

When developers say that this game can't run on other console such as the 360, they mean that it has to be watered down and stuff.

Of course any game can run on the 360, but they have to take a lot of stuff out of the game, and they won't be able to deliver the same experience for the game.

LOL, I find it funny that now the first-party ps3 titles are making 360 games look weaker and weaker in comparison. Looks like the tables have turned.

[GWAVE]

Funny how we call THIS into question (the word of actual developers creating actual video games) yet we take the tons and tons of PR BS spewed by the console manufacturers (M$, Sony, Ninty) at face value...

[marinelife9]

Arguably GeOW is the best looking 360 game that has been offered and it's limited with how many characters can be on screen at once. They can spin it by saying 5 vs 5 combat is more tactical all they want but GeOW 2 wasn't bigger, badder, and more bad@$$ by much.

Killzone, Uncharted, and Heavy Rain all look better than Gears. With more detail and more activity.

Has anyone stopped to think that maybe what these developers have been saying is actually true?

[Bnet343]

Fuels the console wars if you ask me.

[StanLee]

Gears of War may be the XBox 360's most visually impressive game but it was developed with a budget of 10 million dollars with most of the heavy lifting outsourced. A paltry sum by today's blockbuster standards. The sequal really only added improvements made to Epic's engine like lighting, textures and modelling. I expect Mass Effect 2 to take the same incremental leap. Sony has invested this generation in showcasing it's first party titles and developing technology built around it's console's hardware. There hasn't been a title built from the ground up to optimize the XBox 360's 3 cores and memory and I don't think we will see it. This hasn't been Microsoft's focus. I don't question Sony's focus but in the end, has it been the most successful?

[soxfan2005]

It's because the most extreme fanboys derive some perverse pleasure from knowing that a game they are playing is not available to the competition.

"What an AMAZING game! I'm SO happy that 75% of the gaming public can't play it!!!"

[lowcarb]

"Has anyone stopped to think that maybe what these developers have been saying is actually true?"

Why would anybody with a brain believe anything a developer or company told them that was out to make money? The only people falling for this hype are the ones that truly can't decide things on there own.

[DelbertGrady]

It's a way of viral marketing.

[StephanieBBB]

your fav console can't do what some other console can. But hey, grow up? Life is not fair.

[CaseyRyback_CPO]

But thats not to say it cant do better than the current underwhelming benchmark of the Unreal Engine. Thats the biggest crutch holding this gen & the 360 back graphic wise. I'd love to see what crytek could do with the 360's hardware. I mean we saw what bungie did, but I doubt they were concerned about pushing things to the next level.

Keep in mind how OLD the unreal engine is, it was old when it came out to the consoles. PC games had been enjoying normal maps & unneded light bloom for years.. Gears brought what console gamers saw as detail never before seen to games and bam.. the former graphics king.

As it stands we have yet to really see a developer push the 360 with an engine designed for it, rather than just a pc port of like code. I doubt it would trump a killzone2, but it would definitely trump gears.

[gaffyh]

When some devs say this, I usually say, "it probably could be done, but more discs and more money required on 360". But Heavy Rain looks better than any game out this gen, especially the character and face models alone. So with this game I'd probably agree with Quantic Dream, I don't think it could be done on the 360.

[Ldubbz]

@GWAVE

Do you actually think before you type? How in the hell can studios owned by Sony, or at least making games funded by Sony, be impartial? How does that even make sense?

Mind you these are companies with no 360 devkits, or any experience programming on a 360. I personally think its just Sony feeding their dev houses lines to say to the press to pump up their system.

If Im going to listen to what any devs have to say, it would be the 3rd party devs, whom we all know have griped about the PS3 hardware numerous times. And why would RE5 and SF4 STILL look better on 360? The only spin-free answer I can come up with is the 360 has better HW? No, but thats impossible because the CELL...blah blah blah.

I prefer to trust the words of a much more highly respected dev house, Valve, over any of these small Sony-owned studios. And we all know how Gabe Newell feels about the PS3 HW....lol

[marinelife9]

The 360 has been out since 2005 the PS3 since 2006.

Gears is arguably the best looking franchise the 360 has to offer.

Gears arguably has been passed in graphics by several PS3 titles in less time.

The trend is currently favoring the PS3 producing more titles with higher graphical fidelity.

Dogs like cat poop.

[aldesko]

@Ldubbz: If you're looking for an unbiased opinion, don't look at valve. MS has published one of their games and the founders were MS employees. But then again, Sucker Punch has some ex-MS employees as well...

On topic: I think the only noticeable difference between the two consoles is blu-ray.. and linear games like MGS/FF can just use multiple discs to counter this. Free-roaming games like infamous, on the other hand, would need another solution since there are no levels.

't3h cell' may be as amazing as some of these devs are saying, but I'm not qualified to give any type of opinion on it.

[menoyou]

The PS3 has technology that the 360 does not have. It is highly likely that they are telling the truth. Have you seen games as impressive as Killzone 2 or Gran Turismo 5 or Heavy Rain on the 360? They don't exist yet, if they ever will. Until then, the evidence points to these statements being true.

Also the interviewer asked, he didn't just come out and say it.

I think a better question is: WHY DOES EVERYONE ON N4G (NEWS 4 GAMERS) MAKES SENSATIONAL HEADLINES FOR HITS THAT ARENT EVEN NEWS?

[ShabzS]

its as simple as that... ps3 got the obvious edge with the blu ray... so anytime they say only possible on ps3 ... immidiately you jump to the conclusion ''oh that wouldnt have fit on a dvd''...

but if you go saying oh the spu's and gpu's and watever- u's of 360 cant handle the awsomeness of the cell .. then thats just fanboy instincts kicking in

Edit @ MARINELIFE9 : do we really wanna have an unreal engine argument again... gears is NOT the best looking game on 360... far cry 2 resident evil 5 hell the upcoming lost planet 2 look 5 times better than gears... gears 1 was good for its time ... a year late cod 4 was ready to kick gears 1's butt in graphics... (not the gameplay though its an adrenaline rush playing gears.. love every second of it)

[talltony]

PS3 developers have been saying this time and time again. WHY havent we heard any developer say that a certain game is only possible on 360 technical wise.? please explain xbox 360 fans, enlighten me.

[Maxned]

Yea i know what you mean. I think its because theyre trying to make an emotional story, but its bound to be really really stupid.

[RememberThe357]

then stop asking them... It's not a hard concept to grasp.

[evrfighter]

"They can spin it by saying 5 vs 5 combat is more tactical all they want"

I don't care about the console games or who said what about X cant run on Y...

but

Wanna take a crack at what the most popular ladder is on nearly every competitive gaming league dealing with shooters?

You guys consider yourself the hardcore gamers right? there's also the casual gamer and then there's the competitive gamer. These guys usually hate pubs and play in either scrims or matches exclusively. Ask any competitive gamer why 5v5 is so popular.

[rockleex]

He simply answered with "I don't think it can run on the 360, because of the tech we use".

It wasn't like David Cage was trying to brag about the PS3.

If people don't want developers to say Game X can't run on System Y, then stop asking them those questions! -_-"

[Kleptic]

the tech director of killzone 2, in an interview that is still up on GT, was quoted saying 'in certain situations, the Cell can render as much as 40% of each frame...to stabilize the framerate, and allow all massive amounts of action on screen...'

take that how however you want...obviously killzone 2 was built from the ground up for the PS3's architecture...so it exploits its strengths, and they probably kept the game as far away as possible from any of the PS3's weaknesses..

but if that is true...and developers are able to get that much extra speed out of the PS3 by means of using both the CPU and GPU...that puts a massive advantage towards the PS3...you can argue the gpu in the 360 is stronger than the RSX...but its definitely not 40% stronger...

i'm letting the games talk for me...if the 360 gets something as impressive as killzone 2, or MGS4, or Uncharted 2, etc...then yeah...the two systems are very similar other than media format...but up till now...the 360 has nothing close to killzone 2...if you think it does have something close...you haven't played killzone 2...

[mal_tez92]

"The only way we can tell is when... top notch games that release on the PlayStation 3 look and play vastly superior to anything available on the 360."

Hasn't MGS4 and Killzone 2 already proven this? Seeing as how they are graphically a far leap ahead of any other console game, and Drake's Fortune has shown animation quality far better than anything else.

What more proof do they need?

[Gun_Senshi]

You can talk crap all you want (which are factS), you're still one of the top developers with the one of the greatest game ever made.

Unlike other developers that talk crap all the time and not even facts with nothing under their belt.

[qface64]

i do partially agree with you
the fact they made indigo prophecy alone is enough to give them the right to talk smack a bit that game was amazing

but as for heavy rain giving em that right nah game looks kinda boring IMO then again won't know until i actually buy the game when it comes out

[RememberThe357]

I was freakin awesome.

Oh, and expect a ton of quick time events in Heavy Rain.

[SeanScythe]

What was the last game a Developer for an Exclusive 360 game said our game can't be done on the PS3? Not talking about lazy devs like valve not wanting to port L4D to the PS3. I mean when was the last time a game on the 360 was said it couldn't be done on PS3 because it lacks "X" ability?

Just give me one game. Because I haven't seen one yet, but the PS3 has had several.

[alan001]

Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Conviction

"It's NEVER gonna come out on the PS3 or the Wii." It's a logical decision. Nintendo's console simply doesn't have the graphical horsepower, and he candidly told Gameplayer.com.au how the PS3 can't handle AI nearly as well as the 360."
SOURCE: http://www.n4g.com/News-588...

"Ubisoft also mentions that they doubt they would be able to achieve what they're doing with the game on the 360 on the PS3 even if it was PS3 exclusive title."
SOURCE: http://ps3.kombo.com/articl...

[dj55555555]

Nice examples form 2007. That was said when the PS3 had just been released and there where allot of unknowns, but now in 2009 its a very different story.

You fanboys can go on and on about what the 360 can do but at the end of the day the PS3 has proof of its capabilities and all the 360 has is you guys bleating.

[Genesis5]

Alan the date on your article is May 8 2007. This was from a time when they were trying to run regular PC code on the PS3. We all know now that dosen't work, it has to be specificly desinged for the cell.

[Ju]

After KZ2 these statement look pretty dump if you ask me. All the complains about how long KZ2 took, but if those things were true, where is that 360 exclusive game NOW which destroys KZ2 ? I'm waiting. Where is Splinter Cell Convictions ?

BTW: KZ2 AI is one of the best yet seen in any game. It is adaptive in the way for example this damn Helgast get smarter if you play on Elite (not, harder like GeOW, where you shoot them 5x in the head instead of once, or now you get 50 waves instead of 10, no, these a$$...es start to flank you, or start running at you, pulling out a knife. WTF?). So much to PS3 can't handle AI.

[ptotoy]

that this was supposed to be out a year ago.. the dev had problems because of the limited specs of the 360 so they keep pushing the release..

4 years in develpment and sill no video or screen revealed.. i think that is vaporware or it will look last-gen compared to MGS4, which came out a year ago

[Ldubbz]

I just said this in the post above, but again, THESE ARE SONY-OWNED STUDIOS. Or at least Sony-funded. You people in here have let us know that time and time again.

How are we supposed to take at face value the statements of Sony devs working on Sony funded games? I think some of you forget how arrogant Sony is, and thats why you dont see these terrible comments coming from the MS side of things so much.

And when you do see those comments aimed at the PS3, its always a 3rd party dev that has no reason to side with MS or Sony, they are just telling the truth.

EDIT: @above

I cant believe you just typed vaporware in the same sentence as MGS4. Now THATS irony...

[ZuperAmazingCooKie]

Jade Raymond said the same about the PS3 and AI, which is blatantly false misinformation. First of all, Jade Raymond is a producer and not a programmer, so she knows jack sh1t about PS3 specifics. It is unlikely that Ubisoft makes a new engine for each game that they make, they most likely share a lot of resources with every one of their development teams, so if the leader behind the tech team is a moron( which wouldnt be surprising as corporations usually hire idiots for important roles (see: aaron greenberg)) then it is likely that the products they are involved with will be trash, as is the case with Hawx, assassins creed, etc. My point is, Ubisoft has not made anything revolutionary this gen so everything they say is tosh, they can not really back their statements.

Anyway, after playing Heavenly Sword you would realize that what the devs behind Splinter cell said is non- sense. Thousands of independent AI agents running simultaneously in the Cell processor, and if you have more doubts then play Resistance 2, Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank and Killzone 2. That should shed light on the blatant ignorance that it is to think that somehow the Xenos has an advantage over the cell processor.

PS3 devs can claim to have better games because their claims can be backed by the hardware they use. 360s bullet points are development ease and small OS, not more raw horesepower.

[RememberThe357]

Especailly since GG said they had to tone down the AI in KIllzone 2 because it was too good.

[ptotoy]

xbots cannot handle the truth.. so they whine and cry that their 3fxime is weak and inferior, which is the TRUTH

oh, and which crapbox exclusive cannot be done on a ps3? bioshock? ninja blade 2? ToV?

cry moar xbots!

[You Already Know]

well, Bioshock is on the PS3 and ToV is coming as well...

the PS3 hardware is touted as superior from within...and they run on Blu-ray discs...so it would be hard for anyone to say that about the 360...

the one major thing that separates the consoles is the format they use to put the games on....the rest is just opinionated....at this point anyways and we'll see about that over the next 12 months...

[blackbeld]

Yooh... Bots!!! Wazzup!!!!

Now listen guys...........

If Heavy Rain can run on the 360 then it can run on the WII too!!!!!!!!

Stop cry ... and get over it!!!!! Go play you're Halo kiddy game....

And have a nice day!!

[Maxned]

I highly doubt you have a single friend.

[EYEamNUMBER1]

i always wondered but who is this mysterious disagree fairy flying around n4g?

[RememberThe357]

There used to just be a few, now days there seems to be a horde going around.

[Alcohog]

Its called marketing you dumb sh**. You answered your own inquiry.

[lokiroo420]

Butt hurt fanboy, nuff said!

[Silly gameAr]

Probably because it's true? I think they would know just a bit more about which console can handle what feature than you. This is just a rant by someone that had their feelings hurt for no reason at all.

It's no big deal really.

[StanLee]

The problem when a developer makes a statement like this is, and this has been the case in all instances, that developer hasn't developed multiplatform this generation. The engine also was developed on a single platform with resources allocated accordingly without attempt to run the engine on any other console hardware. There is no validity to the statement unless it's been tested. I think Capcom, Ubisoft, EA and Take Two will continue to push the boundaries of what could be accomplished across multiple platforms. Look at Resident Evil 5; arguably one of the most visually stunning game this generation and it's a multiplatform title.

[dj55555555]

but Resident Evil 5 still is not at the PS3 level. I mean look at what these small companies are doing on the PS3 its putting big developers like EA to shame.

[StanLee]

That's not exactly true. Companies like Media Molecule, Guerrilla Games and Sucker Punch have had access to Sony's wealth of resources, finances and afforded an extended time table to deliver their games as evident by numerous developmental and release delays. Larger companies have to be more cost effective with how they allocate not just financial resources but manpower of their studios. If a PS3 exlusive is a more visually impressive game than Resident Evil 5, it's only incrementally so and who really cares other than fanboys? The average consumer see's an ad for Killzone 2, Gears of War 2 or Resident Evil 5 and they wont discern the minute details that make one better looking than the other. Like the myriad of details on the screen in Killzone 2 like particle effects or Resident Evils character detail or Gears of War 2's art direction. Fanboys will argue the details but to the average consumer, it's all incremental; not significant enough to matter to which game that consumer purchases.

[StanLee]

When you have an engine developed specifically for a particular piece of hardware, the effort to make it run on a different piece of hardware would be difficult; near improbable. I don’t think when PS3 developers say this ( . . . and let's be honest, it has been PS3 developers who have been using this as the "company line"), they refer to any limitations in the XBox 360’s hardware. I think this is what fanboys get from it but essentially they’re saying, “Look, the engine was developed to the specifications of the PS3’s hardware, it would be near impossible to do on any other console's hardware without starting from scratch.”

[Ju]

I agree, and yet, these statements are still true. Streaming without HDD ? Amount of data you can store ? I am not even saying, if you do a SW architectural approach to take advantage of the SPUs, for example, this is debatable if and how this can be ported to a multicore (with or without sacrifices). But if your design requires to push in data constantly from a physical media, you will have a hard time doing this without a HDD.

Eventually, everything can be ported. The machines are fast enough to guarantee this statement is true (unlike for example you say, porting to a C64 - there is a feasibility level which rules that out). This statement, however, does not include anything regarding the quality of the final port.

[Etseix]

thats why i like exclusives, they take most of the power of the console to make it ;)

[OC_MurphysLaw]

seemed to put it all in perspective.

[DlocDaBudSmoka]

i mean, without spending money. like the author said, it garners interest without the out of pocket expense.

[NateDPG]

Just look at the graphics author and then you know ;)

[Droid Smasha]

Insecure much?

[xbollox]

i mean...

could 7GB fit on 1 bluray??
who knows... it's scary sh!t... makes me so insecure...

could standard HDD be a handicap for all those open world streaming games?
who knows... it's scary sh!t... makes me so insecure...

is the CELL capable of handling halo3, banjo crabooye, gears of nada2 and viva pina collada after KILLZONE 2?
who knows... it's scary sh!t... makes me so insecure...

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HA HA HA HA!

you xb!tches are so owned, i feel sorry for you morons, lololol

[Maxned]

If I was a ps3 fanboy, I would be really embarrassed. Seriously, take a look at what you just wrote. You are such a gigantic douche it isnt even funny. Go suck Sony's balls.

[xbollox]

"If I was a ps3 fanboy"

but you're a microc@ck sucka with no bubbles left and that's why you got owned, douchey

BWAAAAAAAAAAAA ha ha ha ha!

[Shane Kim]

I actually red his post and it was hilarious. ;D;D Bubbles for you xbollox.

[OmarJA]

Butt hurt fanboy indeed can't except it.

[lokiroo420]

Accept it.

[Phantom_T]

"Usually they ramble on about a processor or chip or some other hardware that lets us "use such and such feature"

Translation.

"They're explaining how it works to me in a logical manner,seeing as i'm an internet blogger this is not a sensationalist claim and does not interest me,when are they going to start badmouthing there competition?"

[-x.Red.x-]

i have YET to hear this 360 exclusive CAN'T be done on ps3
because ps3 is inferior
*from devs themselves and proof why it can't be done*
and if there is one i would like to see it...

[MainEventX]

I have also yet to hear of a XBOX 360 game that can't run on the PS3 but u hear aot of PS3 games can't run on 360. Some people need to wake up and realize this and PLAY B3YOND.

[Pootangpie]

Good article should shut the fanboys up once and for all

[OmarJA]

They just won't except the fact that the PS3 already has the best looking exclusives this gen, well there is always the NPD sales figure to make your self comfortable.

[Shadow Man]

and the ps2 had the NPD sales figures. And the ps2 won that gen.

Now ps3 has the best looking exclusives and the 360 has the best sells betting the ps3 in America and Europe.

Guess who is gonna win between the 2, the xbox 360.

[UnwanteDreamz]

I'm gonna win cause I own the console with the best exclusives and free online. Everything else Sony can worry about seeing as I don't work for them. Now you go ahead and pat yourself on the back when or if 360 wins this gen. I will be playing a must have game.

[Major_Tom]

The Wii has the best sales. Not the Xbox.

[mooks1]

if u add Japan sales

PS3 = 235k in April
X360 = 202k in April

[Darkeyes]

Dude the times were different in that era. People didn't give sh*t about graphics. 140 million PS2 sold compared to 25 million Xbox sold.... That's not competition my friend.. that is molestation.

This time around it's a tough competition. Both are neck-a-neck... PS3 has sold more in the same time frame at a price nearly twice the 360. The Wii already has won the competition. This gen there are going to be no winners or losers. 360 is going to bail out early and PS3 will go on for a longer time. If you are telling that when 360 will win when both consoles go out of production, then sadly you are mistakened cause like the PS2, the PS3 will be on for a longer time than a 360.

And ya.. This article makes a lot of sense. I am tired of hearing the 360 fanbots say that if developers spent enough time and optimized the code, then games like KZ2 would be possible on the 360. Then WHERE ARE SUCH GAMES??? The 360 is nearly 4 years into the market and still no challenger to games like KZ2, MGS4.The only reason is that M$ doesn't have first party developers like Sony. 3rd party devs can't spend 4-5 years over a stupid exclusive on the 360.. Something Sony capitalized on by making 1st party devs.. These games such as KZ2, MGS4 and future games like GOW3, GT5... all have taken a long time for development... Something a 360 developer can't give for 360 exclusives. Ya Heavy Rain is possible on the 360 but no one has the fu*kin time to make a game like that on the 360.. Fact.

In short stop crapping about sales every single time to defend the 360. All that a gamer should be concerned off is games and at this time, PS3 has better upcoming games... Deal with it.

[Ashriel]

mooks1, did you create that account just to spam those same numbers?

[xMAx Sadistik]

Has to encourage their first party developers to say this because no third party will say this about them! The only good PS3 games have been made by Sony themselves, however their are numerous third party 360 games that are fantastic. Developers find the 360 much easier to develop for and really dislike the PS3 hardware. I have both systems and my PS3 is practically just an expensive Blu-Ray player...

[callahan09]

Really? Metal Gear Solid 4 was made by Sony? I did not know that...

[ultimolu]

Then you sir, are not a gamer.
Sell your PS3 now and spare us the grief.

And the misinformation coming from your mouth is nothing short of plain ignorance.

[-EvoAnubis-]

Since when is Quantic Dream 1st party? I must have missed the memo.

[blusoops]

I didn't know Quantum Dream was sony 1st party...LOL.

[I_am_rushin]

For that matter Sucker Punch is not owned by Sony either, thus they aren't 1st party.

[-EvoAnubis-]

"For that matter Sucker Punch is not owned by Sony either, thus they aren't 1st party"

I know, but if the guy didn't realize that a company that makes games for consoles that aren't Sony-branded isn't 1st party, then he certainly wasn't ready to accept that a company that's only made games for Sony ever since the PS2 isn't 1st party either.

Baby steps.

[Master-Baiter]

I don't care about the system, I care that the game is good.

[Ashriel]

It's a cheap way to adverstise your game.

[torontoml]

They say it because they are asked the question.

[ultimolu]

Go cry me a damn river.

The developer for Heavy Rain was asked a question and he answered it. In his own words, he said 'I DON'T THINK SO'.

Bunch of crybabies with double standards, I swear.

[xMAx Sadistik]

I would like you Sony fanboys, without saying graphics, Blu-Ray capacity, or the RROD, to name one reedeeming factor about the PS3. Because I can name 100 about the 360: Xbox Live, Party Chat, Primetime gameshows, better controller, private chat, Netflix, more DLC for games (Killzone got 2 maps, Gears and Halo all got 4 initially), American made, and, after E3, the best version of MGS4 (trust me). Oh, and I forgot the best part...voice messages LOL. Good luck with that one! (Oh and to the guy above me who said, 'oh MGS4 was made by Sony??' I did not say that because it will soon be on 360.

[ultimolu]

Ninja Gaiden Sigma
MLB The Show
God of War III
Heavy Rain
Valkyria Chronicles
Little Big Planet
Fat Princess
Wipeout HD
Killzone 2
Resistance
Resistance 2
Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2
Gran Turismo Prologue
Gran Turismo 5
Metal Gear Solid 4
Free Online
Dedicated Servers
Bluray (High definition movies)
Online browser
Can change harddrive for a reasonable price

... I can go on you know.

[Ju]

GT5, not Sony, just a random though.

And MGS4/360. Good! Enjoy what we did 1 1/2 years ago - with half the content...we'll see if it'll sell for less then $60...

[UnwanteDreamz]

LMAO You listed less then ten including 3 diff kinds of chat and a movie service. I could embarrass you but it's not even worth it when you do a great job of it yourself.

BTW

To answer your challenge : PSN IS FREE

[Alcohog]

You can stream NetFlix on PS3 as well through a media server like PlayOn. With the rest of those listed you are really reaching.

[blusoops]

Most of the features u mentioned can and will be added witha fw update. Can't say the same about no blu ray playback or rrod. Netflix can already be done. Psn is free. I'd rather have exclusive full GAMES than dlc.
"360 is amercan made"...so is ford. I'd rather drive a Ferrari or even a lexus. LOL.

[Nathan123]

'I would like you Sony fanboys, without saying graphics, Blu-Ray capacity, or the RROD, to name one reedeeming factor about the PS3'... Ya thats like asking me to fight you with my hands and legs tied up... Dumb.. Those are major factors that out weigh you stupid silly fact like party chat, Netflix and voice messages.. Half of the points you have mentioned are from LIVE and can be added via software updates... It's not implemented as of now.. that doesn't rule out the possibilities. But thing like Blu-Ray, better Graphics cannot be added to a 360 via some software updates.

Ya and you know one more fact... GAMES!!!! The last decent 360 exclusive I have played is Gears 2 (fable 2 and Halo:Wars sucked!!!) and the next one I can see is Halo:ODST.. In the same one years time frame, I played Resistance 2, Little Big Planet, Killzone 2 and will play Infamous, MAG, Uncharted 2, GT5 and probably games like Heavy Rain, GOW3 if they get released along with all good multi-plat games.... The main point is that I have the liberty to enjoy more better games than you and that is all I care about...
I don't give a sh*t about sales (which you trollbots seem to bring up everytime a PS3 exclusive comes out... I play better games than you on you 360... That is a fact.. Stop living in 2007.

At least the PSN doesn't lag like the LIVE due to dedicated servers.. And Ya it's FREE. Stop blabbing like a stupid fanbot about how great LIVE is over PSN.. Ya it's better, but it's not 07... The PSN has grown a lot and for a FREE community, it's much better. 2 years back, LIVE was a selling point.. but it's not now.

'American made'... Seriously.. I think we all have established the fact how crap the 360 hardware is. If that is American made, then I prefer the Japanese made hands down.

Oh ya... MGS4 better on 360.. Keep dreaming. As far as I know Kojima is working on MGS5 (as announced by him at GDC09). Firstly, the chances of it appearing on the 360 are rare and secondly, it being better is like asking for another big bang to happen. Take it if you want it so bad... It did what it had to do for the PS3. Trust me... You will enjoy the best game every made if it shows up on the 360 (Oh ya and it will be inferior if it ever does.. mark my words now).

[I_am_rushin]

Xbox Live< PSN IMO
Party Chat never saw any use again IMO
Primetime gameshows- aren't these not even out yet? Plus who needs them when you have plenty of amazing PSN titles.
better controller-that is purely subjective. IMO the DS3 is better, because of sixaxis, lighter, better vibration, less dead zone, and I'm used to it.
private chat-good for you, but I would never pay for that.
Netflix- I wouldn't use it, since I have torrents, and PSN video store.
more DLC for games (Killzone got 2 maps, Gears and Halo all got 4 initially)- I see this as a bad thing. Since I hate developers charging extra, but whatever. P.S. more KZ2 maps are coming within 2 months.
American made-How is this a pro? Everything American made sucks. And I know you said not to mention RROD, but why not? American industry and autos are failing.
after E3, the best version of MGS4 (trust me)-First of all I don't trust you. Second of all I have never played MGS and have no interest in it. And third, enjoy a game PS3 owners have had for over a year.

Now to the PS3's advantages.

Cheaper in the long run.
Remote Play.
Graphics(why exactly is this not a good quality?)
Free Online
HDD
3rd party accessories
Browser
Dedicated servers
Better exclusives

[Silly gameAr]

It really came in handy for me when I moved into my new house. I had to either buy a 35 foot long ethernet cord, pay $120 for a wifi add on or install a new phone jack to connect my 360 to my modem.

I had a new phone jack installed 2 days ago, so I'm back on my Gears 2 BS lol. That's just one of my reasons. I'm sure others can come up with many more. Doesn't mean I like my 360 any less though.

E: Sorry. That was for Sadistik

[marinelife9]

LOL @ "without saying graphics, Blu-Ray capacity, or the RROD".

Hilarious!

I'll bite, how about...
Free online gaming
Upgradable proprietary hard drive compatibility
Better 1st and 2nd party game studio support.
The best version of Bioshock, Lost Planet, Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2, Burnout Paradise, Fight Night, and Alone in the Dark...
Free Playstation Home
A built in Web Browser
Included Wifi
Sony made

Oh and I forgot the best part. It's quiet and goes better with my black trimmed HDTV with black varnished wood cabinet.

[CaseyRyback_CPO]

- Not relying on multiplatform games for entertainment.
- free online gaming
- stable hardware
- more current AAA exclusives, including highest rated AAA exclusive. better quality gaming experiences with amazing sound and other qualities that cant be named for some reason.. lol. Yet one of the pros to owning a 360 is better "graphics"(aka 1 texture is sharper) multiplatform games? yeah that makes sense.
- Use any size HDD
- Web browser
- Netflix using third party software -free.
- USB peripheral use, g25 steering wheel for games,keyboard for UT3.
- HOME/Xi
- alternate OS abilities
- Second to none PSN titles like Warhawk/WipeoutHD/Flower/Socom /Pixel Junk etc.
- Full retail game downloads Burnout/Football Manager
- Purchasable movies & tvshows
- cross game text chat
- private voice chat
- experimental "games" Linger in the Shadows, Killzone2 behind the scenes experience.
- Free Distributable User Created content, little big planet
- youtube uploading
- Variety & Superior titles to Multiplats: Gran Turismo, God of War, Uncharted, Infamous, MGS4, Killzone2, Heavy Rain, Heavenly Sword, Valkyrie Chronicles, Ratchet & Clank, Siren, MLB vs MLB2K, Infamous vs Prototype etc..
- PSBlog

And killzone2 isn't the only title with DLC, Warhawk has had more dlc than most retail releases alone.

The 360 to you is a good game console because of voice chat, private chat, party chat, american made, playing primtime gameshows, and the possibility of playing a ps3 exclusive. Removing bluray and graphics is like saying you want to remove the engine and body of a ferrari then compare it to a rusted out sh-can. Your list is no where near 100, and its been completely trumped.

[Shadow Man]

said that their Naruto game was only possible on the 360, it must be true because they work for the ps3 also, and they know the architecture.
/sarcasm

[mooks1]

It is possible not on PS3 but on PS2

can u name a x360 game which looks and run like a next gen game

i can name KZ2, UNCHARTED , HEAVY RAIN

and you???????

[zaz12]

CRY Xbots CRY

[Dawn_Of_Ashes]

this article come from a frustrated failbox360.

[Phantom_T]

If you're going to ask a question like that it kinda looks like...

"Tell me why the PS3 is better without naming features that it has over competitors"
See how redundant that question is?

[ApocalypseShadow]

360 fans always come up with excuses when it comes to graphics...

"teh sales...."---STILL NOT ABOUT GRAPHICS

"it just hasn't been done YET....."-----EXCUSE

"how do they know?""have they programmed for 360?"--YOU DON'T HAVE TO PRPGRAM FOR 360 TO REALIZE THE TRUTH.

either you (a)deflect,(b)call the messenger a fanboy,or (c)redirect to another topic.

but the bottom line is that 360 cannot handle ps3 exclusive games.i'm sorry if they makes you angry,sad,whatever.but you need to wake up to the reality that ps3 came out "1 YEAR LATER" and "IS MORE POWERFUL THAN 360."

when ps3 fans ask you to prove it with exclusives and not poor cross platform games that don't use the Cell SPUs,you run away.if i list games like

GT5,HEAVY RAIN,MLB:09 THE SHOW,UNCHARTED1,2,KILLZONE2... .

if i list games that do 20vs20 or 30vs30 or upcoming games that are trying to do 256 players....

WHERE'S 360'S COUNTER TO THOSE GAMES?

360 has been out longer,has more devs making games for it,has some of the top PC devs making games for it,but not one game matches any ps3 exclusives.

valve,rare,bungie,lionhead,ep ic,turn-10.....i could go on and on with devs making games ONLY for 360 for the last 3.5 years,and they have failed to match sony inhouse games.don't lie to yourselves and say it's not the truth.360 has had one more year to best ps3.but sony is besting microsoft.AND IT'S ONLY AFTER YEAR 2.

put up or shut up as porcelingod and the rest have said.don't make excuses.list the games that match ps3 exclusives or shut up.does graphics matter?NO.but we are talking about what system is more powerful.

and 360 has proven,the devs have proven and DVD-9 has proven that 360 can't keep up with ps3 but came out one year earlier.

apocalypse..............truth hurts.....................

[baodeus]

@apocalypse

Here is a dam list of exclusive and rating, and i don't want to get into sell number either cause u know what happen there.

Rating
IGN Gamespot Metatric Average
Halo3 9.5 9.5 9.4 9.5
L4D 9 8.5 8.9 8.8
Perfect Dark 0 8.4 9 8.1 8.5
KZ2 9.4 9 9.1 9.2
Resistant2 9.5 9 8.7 9.1
Resistant1 9.1 8.6 8.6 8.8

Gear of War1 9.4 9.6 9.4 9.5
Gear of War2 9.5 9 9.3 9.3
Uncharted 9.1 8 8.8 8.6

Dead or Alive 4 9 8.8 8.5 8.8

Halo Wars 8.4 6.5 8.2 7.7

MGS4 10 10 9.4 9.8

PG4 9.1 8.5 8.5 8.7
Forza 2 9.2 9.2 9 9.1
GTR 8.5 7.5 7.2 7.7
Wipeout HD 9.2 7.5 8.7 8.5
Motor Storm 9 7.9 8.2 8.4
Motor Storm:Rift 8.9 8 8.2 8.4
GT5P 8.5 7.5 8 8

Kameo 8.4 8.7 7.9 8.3
Banzo 8.3 8.5 7.9 8.2
Vivapinata 9 8.5 8.4 8.6
Rachet&Clank 9.4 7.5 8.9 8.6
LBP 9.5 9 9.5 9.3

CrackDown 8.4 7.8 8.3 8.2
Dead Rising 8.3 8.4 8.5 8.4
NG2 8.7 8 8.1 8.3
NB 6.5 7.5 6.8 6.9
Heavenly Sword 7 8 7.9 7.6
NGS 9.3 9 8.8 9 (although NGB got better rating)
Infamous ? ? ? ?

LO 8.2 7.5 7.8 7.8
BD 7.9 6 7.9 7.3
Infi undisc 7.1 6.5 6.8 6.8
SO4 8 7.5 7.8 7.8
Fable 2 8.8 8.5 8.9 8.7
Mass Effect 9.4 8.5 9.1 9
Valkyria Chro 9 8.5 8.7 8.7
Folklore 9 7.5 7.8 8.1
Disgaea 3 6.7 7.5 7.9 7.4
Demon Soul ? ? ? ?

(>90%)
xbox: 4
PS3: 4 (don't count NGs < NGB)

(>80%)
xbox: 11
PS3: 9

(>70%)
xbox: 5
PS3: 2

(>60%)
xbox: 2 (too human low rating)
PS3: 0 (Lair/haze not include too low rating)

# Exclusive (currently)
Xbox: 22 (more not out yet or TBA)
PS3: 18 (More not out yet or TBA)

Note: same amount of AAA, but xbox just sell more
and have more games currently. I guess i can pull out more exclusive games from both console, but it will just be the same. Xbox still have the same rating just with more games.

Yeah, i don't know where u get better exclusive PS3 etc.....(u mean TBA or game that are not out yet?) Man wait till the game come out and we can talk. And again, PS3 fan really like to talk about games that aren't even out yet and they already knew that those are all AAA games. This is why PS3 aren't selling as much cause all u guys ever say are just BS and don't put your money where your mouth is at.

"better PS3 exclusive" = OPINION, i'm pretty sure casual gamers think games like wii fit is 1000x better than any PS3 games.

Where is your facts (rating, sell numbers etc...don't use opinion)

i agree Apocalypse, THE TRUTH HURTS

[Why Dis 6]

cry ps3 cry for your crappy system

[OmarJA]

Pathetic.

[Caffo01]

said by the guy with a faulty system..

[CypH]

instead of making articles like this I mean blah blah blah. SHOW ME! a game on a 360 exclusive or not with either KZ2, infamous, uncharted, or heavy rain standard.

if not then these statements are fact
"only can be done on a ps3"

[ALL_STAR_28]

damn your 360 broke for the 6th time... I feel for you... yet again i don't 0_o... Anyone who buys a faulty product 6 times has some major issues...

[Arsenal4Ever]

/thread

[GameScrubs]

Think about it. They want us to think they are using all the power of the PS3 to generate the best game out there. Really why would someone say that it only using 20% or 30%, that sounds like they are not doing all they can to maximize their product.

Take it as you will, if you think it has to be watered down for 360, or that this game is really that top tier then go for it. But you are just eating it up.

I'm waiting to see how the game really stacks up in the end. I don't care about how much power it's using or if it doesn't work on the opposite console. Make a good game and I'll buy it, simple as that.

Meh!

[Droid Control]

we all know the 360 and PS3 as equel in terms of processing power. Its just the 360 is eaier to program for, and his a better online service. Oh, and its a lot cheaper with a larger cagalogue of games.

You want proof, you will have it. THIS year, with

A.L.A.N W.A.K.E!!!!

[d0nT wOrrY]

"You want proof, you will have it. THIS year, with"

sorry my friend, i guess you have to wait another 1-5 years for Alan to wake up hahahaa

[CypH]

I made a thread about that and it's been closed by the MAN

360 is not equal nor superior to the ps3

[cheapness1]

Remember Halo 3, Fable 2 and Gears of War can't be done on the PS3!

Seriously when 360 devs say that ppl are like, "oh yeah obviously 'cos 360 has teh better textures GPU v-uber-ram xenos core......man!?!?!"

But for PS3 games itz like "Yea 'cos sony owns teh ip."

edit: oh yea or "Teh 360 could do that, the devs just don't want to do that on it" or "Teh sony dev's getting teh free marketing!"

[dagreatest41]

LMAO "Cheap way to market the game" ??? Really ? I think your article is a cheap way for jealous fanboys to stay in denial.

Have you ever stopped to think that maybe the 360 has some technical limitations that make it impossible to run certain games on it (i.e. killzone2, heavy rain, uncharted2, God of War 3, etc.)? We all know that the 360's GPU is slighly more powerful than the PS3 but the PS3 makes up for that with its mandatory HDD, blu-ray drive, and cell processor.

[SHAGGY62]

You might want to check that label on the back of your 360 it says made in CHINA

[ApocalypseShadow]

disagree.doesn't matter.put up or shut up.

not one 360 exclusive dev has beaten sony in graphics.

not one 360 exclusive game using unreal engine 3 has beaten any of the best looking ps3 exclusive games.

not one exclusive game NOT USING unreal engine on 360 has beaten any of sony's top looking games.

all sony's top games use proprietary engines.and they all look good.that's the DIFFERENCE.

put up or shut up.

apocalypse..............

[maxcer]

.

[baodeus]

@apocalypse

true, i haven't seen any 360 exclusive looks better than PS3 (but by a very little margin) However, there is RE5 (multiplatform) that look better than KZ2(opinion of course) and since KZ2 graphic > unchart therefore, RE5 > unchart as well. Obviously everyone have different taste or opinion, therefore, argument like these are invalid.

Your argument are based on your bias opinions since obviously you only prefer PS3. You don't have anything to back up your claim (where is the rating?) you can use my post above if you like. There is no merit in your argument.

We can't use individual opinion because each of us are bias toward certain things so the only common ground that we can use are rating (based on majority opinion), sells, etc...(and you know what happen there) and obviously the Wii is killing everything (well maybe not in rating)

[Why Dis 6]

you mean God of War 3 and GT5

[keysy420]

What they are saying and what all of you are saying, is that if you take this out and take this out, do this and do this then the game can run, right!!! So doesn't that mean that the game can't run on the other system the way it is. This whole article is stupid. That’s saying a game like God of War 3 could run on Wii. If you use the wii mote as a sixasis take this out, this out, change this dumb it down then do this and the game can run. wtf are you guys talking about, fact is the 360 doesn’t have blu-ray ,ps3 does. Ps3 has a built in hard drive 360 doesn’t. Ps3 has untapped power, 360 doesn’t. You cant argue that if you change a game it can run on another system. Next you’ll be claiming that WOW can run on Gamecube.

[keysy420]

by the way i'm glad their's fanboys because it makes this generation so much better. Although we all know what the outcome will be eventually its fun while it last

[Magna Farta]

.....a dev saying that his game can't run on this or that console...then we have some guy taking time out of his life to write an article as a rebuttal to the article.

This article utilizes all the SPEs...Stupidity Processing Entities...only possible on N4G!!

[asyouburn]

people automatically assume "graphics", but it goes so much more beyond what you see. like in heavenly sword, they render 1000 dudes on screen all in 200 person blocks with independent ai good luck with that on 360. its things likee this that make ps3 and its spe's king of the console block in my opinion.

[Pootangpie]

If sony had nothing to do with it being exclusive and it could only be done on PS3 then why add them I don't recall itakugi makeing Xbox refrences for DOA3 or Ninja gaiden

[GameScrubs]

Funny thing about graphics and statements like this game looks better than that one prove me wrong, is the fact that is subjective.

Art is a subjective media. Some people don't like the look and feel of Gears and some do. What makes your opinion better than the other? How can someone quantify that the graphics of killzone are better than any other game out there? Is it the pixels? Shaders? Antializing? Particle effects?

Why argue about something as trivial as that?

Other than trying to show off your e-penises try to be understand that your views are not final.

For example (here is where I get flamed)

I didn't like uncharted when compared to gears because I thougth gears of war looked better.

I think MGS4 looks better than killzone.

Now with those two statements, what makes me right or wrong? Nothing it's just my PoV about the subject and if you think different good for you.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

It's a marketing ploy. Just look at last years E3 developer videos. Every single one almost said verbatim the same thing like they were reading off a script. It's like they were told you can say whatever you want just make sure to include the phrase "our game can only be done on the Playstation 3".

At the same time, the statement of "if it has the power than prove it" is a valid one. Although the way many rabid fanboys in the Gamer Zone are wording it and acting like little beotches doesn't even deserve much of a response.

How funny this all is thinking of last gen considering the Xbox1 was a much more advanced system than the PS2, yet the PS2 got all the love and the library of games was the focus. Now we see the roles reversed this gen(and we know how the last one ended).

[konvict]

yea but last gen and this gen or two different gens.

[ReBurn]

Maybe it's more that the developer isn't capable of doing the game on another system more than the other system isn't capable of handling it. Doesn't matter to me anyway since I have PS3, 360 and Wii. I can play whatever I want.

[konvict]

F@ck the author of this article,he's an xbot and the title alone could tell u that, xbox just cant run the damn game ok. :)

PS3 vs XBOX
the war is just begun.......

[-MD-]

They say this with every PS3 game.. even ones that get ported to the 360 and magically run better.

[Zeal0t]

stay away from all this fanboii kiddy console wars thingy ^^ but i have yet to see anything similar to Killzone2, Uncharted, MSG4 or even Heavenly Sword on the Xbox360...

Edit: Just for the record i own both consoles!

[Morituri]

There’s really nothing to say but “put up or shut up” The proof is in the pudding. No amount of fanatical rationalization will make your pipe dreams a reality. If your beady little eyes work properly, you can look at the game libraries from both consoles and plainly see which one is pushing out all around amazing titles, one after another, after another, after another.

It’s pretty obvious.

[Socomer 1979]

they are feeling the pain bad.
You know what they say: TRUTH HURTS.

[MetalGearBear]

u know u xbox360 is fail!!!!!!!
u know u ugly and mindless
u know nothing about PS3. Xbox360+RROD= FAIL EPIC
PPPPPFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTTT TTTTTTT!!!!!

[Mr Face Creamer]

... The droids, always hard to figure out if you guys are 6 years old or 10 years old.

[thegood33]

LOL, Yeah, we all know how hard it would be for the Xbox 360 to run all those intense QTE's...

Heavy rain is just a glorified dragon's lair.

Push triangle..
Push circle...
Sure, you get to move around, but it's a scripted game and would extremely easy for the 360 to run.

[GUNKILLA]

you loved it when gears came out your time has come and gone now the ps3 is truley going to kick your ass big style

[GUNKILLA]

alane wake is that all you can say im glad you have onley got one game to look forward to wile ps3 is outstanding

[Ps_alm3k]

In order for you to say your system is better/powerful then the others, you have to prove it!!!

Now lets add all the factors..Gamepley,Graphic,inov ation

Now when I say a certain CONSOLE, and what games come to your mind.

PS3!! *Pause FOr A little*

360!! *Pause*....................... .....Okay!!

WII ........*okay Skip*

Let the games do the talking right?

Now which one is more powerful!!!

Good........Case Close guys

[You Already Know]

'preciate the responses....good and bad, it's still all in good fun...

but...it's funny how people call me a 360 fanboy when I own a PS3...only...

be sure to check out our Vice Weekly podcast where we delve more into these topics...

[Enate]

Some people do get excited for that reason but there are other reason to be excited due to the fact that a game was tailor made for your system. I for one get excited when I know a game is exclusive to my console of preference the PS3. Due to the fact I know the great things that can happen with PS3 exclusive titles even when up against the best multplats. There is almost an immediate, definitive difference on the best of exclusives on either console. Technical feats by exclusives are also important to maybe even make it easier to help multiplat developers out. Weather that's to show them new techniques or things they didn't think were possible before on that console.

Though there is the other way that people think an that's what your talking about. An the majority of people can think it just has to do with not wanting the other console to have it for selfish reasons but exclusives are on another level the majority of the time. Also lets be real gamers are not carebears who sit here an go buddy I love you I wish an hope to high heavens an all the rainbows in the world that you get this game on your console as well FRIENDS :)

Though a lot of people love to throw around that whole I hope everyone gets to play this awesome game BS. The real deal comes out when we games become un exclusive. FFXIII, I was excited because it was exclusive to PS3 for good reason, I felt like a game that is known to push the J-RPG's was best exclusive on the PS3 due to the amount of space they had to play with on the blu-ray. Also due to the facts previously stated, maybe they could help other J-RPG makers get out of these water color Happy Tree Friends looking J-RPGS we have been seeing lately. An though they claim they would only work on the PS3 version do you seriously expect me to believe that after the smirk on the delivery of the FFXIII to 360 message. My issue was due to the ugly distasteful delivery of the message an I felt that personally it wad deliberately made to come off exactly the way it was presented.

Believe me 360 fans died for days off of that one an the majority of which openly admiting to not giving a **** about the game. They just wanted to come in gloat because they knew a lot of PS3 fans were excited for the game. On the other hand though no where near as big BIOSHOCK went from off the chain greatest atmosphere ever when it was exclusive. To oh u guys get its an ok game for sure not one of the best but whatever happy you guys get it(does that sound happy to you). When a few days before it was all you guys will never get this awesome game its the greatest game on the planet, I mean really it goes both ways. An don't even get me started on fake hype I've seen so many PS3 fans wish they had this articles its a joke. Anyway I'm running long but you get the point if anyone gets this far thanks for reading an I hope you understood what I was trying to say.

[No Way]

It gets annoying when the developers say this kinda stuff..

[danielle007]

Buuuuuuut.... games made FOR the 360 are different than the ones for the PS3, so when it's a 360 exclusive, it's made FOR the 360, and making it for the PS3 would need it to be made from scratch to do it all up for the PS3, right?

So.. How the fudge is this different? It's an exclusive made FOR the PS3, so it doesn't run on 360, obviously, can't just pop in the blu ray disc and pray. But that doesn't mean that they couldn't make it for the 360, like the 360 just shuns everything about their game like a goddamn disease and it can't handle anything the game is doing, because it's soooo far superior that the 360 needs to just go cry in a corner.

Nono, any game could be made for the console, honestly, at the most just nerf the graphics by a twinge if that's even necesary, right? So Idk. I guess I don't understand this whole debate. If they made it for the 360, I'm sure it would effin work, so what is his point?

Srsly, if I'm wrong and completely missing the point, someone tell me. I just don't grasp the point of this argument, or that fellas statement.

[Hallucinate]

well yea your right but when people say x game cant run on y console there talking about it just being able to render the graphics proccess the AI, physics and w/e else goes into a game

[N2NOther]

We get it. The PS3 is more powerful than the 360. Now what?

[hatchimatchi]

i don't understand why some people think it's just crazy to think that someps3 games can't run on the 360. Why is that so hard to believe? It doesn't mean the 360 blows, it just means the ps3 has more juice or more storage space. It doesn't always have to come down to graphics. Everyone knows that a blu ray disc is far better than a dvd9. People need to stop taking this gen so seriously.

[baodeus]

Hum....let see how many games they are gonna sell telling that to Sony Fan on N4G....

The fact is, the average consumer don't care....if they do, Wii wouldn't be killing both 360 or PS3 right?

[jakesplace0]

to the comments on here by SONy loyalists, kudos..All i can say or ask is, how many times has any developer said so so so game "can only be done on the 360"??...(it doesnt mean they cant but the answer is still) never

thats all i got

[devilhunterx]

poor RROD xbots are butthurt. again.

[JustV]

its because its the truth....You haven't seen this type of graphic on 360 have you? nope....Yes Ps3 have blu-ray...and it helps a lot..why in the world wouldn't? Sure you can use it on the 360, but if you try to fit in a dvd how are you gonna get the best graphic out of it? Somethings are just better than others...leave it be!

[hipocrat07]

i hate fanboys like that...

[Oztheboss]

Anybody notice that 99% of the games that can't be made on another console are PS3 exclusives?

There's something to it.