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Has CAPCOM Lost Its Way?

CriousGamer Writes.... For years now, CAPCOM has been a staple of the gaming industry. From both the production and publishing side of the fence, they have offered up a large and varied number of games that span any number of genres, and have created some of the most critically acclaimed titles ever. Looking back...

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GWAVE3813d ago

CAPCOM's problem these days is that they simply don't innovate. They know they have people's nostalgic childhood memories by the balls (Resident Evil, Devil May Cry, Mega Man, etc), so they have no incentive to try new things.

Not to mention the fact that a lot of their original talent has left the company.

Blaze9293813d ago

Give me Onimusha 5 and I'll call it a day.

ChickeyCantor3813d ago

" CAPCOM's problem these days is that they simply don't innovate."
Pretty ignorant if you ask me.

Innovation doesn't come in the overal look of a game, it comes in the smaller gameplay elements.

People demand something completely new, not only is that hard to make it a success there is no reason to let go of successful franchises.

GWAVE3813d ago

@ sidar

Alright. Then allow me to rephrase: CAPCOM's games this gen are inferior to the games they've made in the past.

ChickeyCantor3813d ago

Now that wasn't so hard was it =P

Halo3 MLG Pro3813d ago

Not innovative? Dead Rising anybody??? I never played any game like that before. And Lost Planet was also a great new franchise. This is a stupid article. So since you have a problem with games not being innovative enough than I'm sure you also have a problem with KZ2, right? Or are you going to be a hypocrite and still call it the best fps ever?

jammy_703813d ago

more like who cares... i dont work for them. why shud anyone care!

king dong23813d ago

why am i not surprised to see you slinging mud at capcom? if capcom was still pretty much sony eclusive like last gen, then you would be in here rubbishing this worthless blog, and showering praise on capcom for some of this gens pretty dcent games..

but like sqare enix and the gta franchise, all the sony fanturds like you have turned on them, amd now no longer like their games...you and the people like you are pathetic.

anyway, another rubbish blog, i'm sure ive seen other rubbish from this n4g-fanboy owned blog site!! capcom are doing some great games at the mo, and have already pretty much established two new pretty godd frnchises in lost planet and dead rising....and thats without saying how good lost planet 2 is looking. i cant wait for that game.

and before the sony fanturds turn on me. i own all three consoles thank you. although i rarely play, and dont think much of the wii.

irish-leprecaun3813d ago

especially in terms of sales with SF4(360&ps3) RE5(360&ps3) monster hunter on psp (still huge) and many others!!

Jinxstar3813d ago (Edited 3813d ago )

@ halo

"Dead Rising anybody??? I never played any game like that before."

In what way? State of emergency, Gauntlet, GTA, Onimusha, Crackdown, Saints row, even Super mario in some ways... I mean no 2 games are exactly the same but I can see plenty of similarities to other games depending on how you look at it. Take San Andreas. Get a 5 star wanted level and see how much silliness you can cause...

"And Lost Planet was also a great new franchise."

How so? I thought it was a joke. Poorly implemented controls, Bland level design, Pretty poor story, Unlikable characters, Poor AI... All it had was a few big bosses and some mechs which were fun for about 5 minutes...

"This is a stupid article."

I agree but for different reasons.

"So since you have a problem with games not being innovative enough than I'm sure you also have a problem with KZ2, right?"

I personally never cared much for the story or gameplay. However they innovated in a much different department. They innovated in detail and graphics much more then gameplay. Innovation is not only in gameplay and if you are talking innovation... I could go on for hours about how Halo copied about 10 other FPS's in many ways... It succeded in 1 way that set it apart. Controls. Everything else about it was nothing new in ANY way. They set up the control scheme to work for consoles and did a good job too. Thats it though. KZ2 innovated just as much but in a different way. To each his own. Many people really love KZ2 and not just because it's exclusive. otherwise there wouldn't be clan postings and other stuff all the time on the forums.

"Or are you going to be a hypocrite and still call it the best fps ever?"

Thats more of an "To each his own" thing. Just because your biased doesn't make everyone who plays it biased. hell even shane saterfield for GT who is a rampant 360 fan says he loves it. Play the games not the brands.

Capcom hasn't innovated and done a pretty poor job overall this gen. I am praying Bionic Commando rocks but not holding out. SF4 was good imo but still not all that innovative and balance is still... Ify in that game(See my review). Otherwise I don't see anything great...

@ Irish.

Sales make a game good then huh?

callahan093813d ago (Edited 3813d ago )

OK, seriously, I see a lot of mudslinging there King. I've been seeing it a lot around here lately and for the most part I just brush it off. But for some reason I'm just really annoyed with all the name-calling in the Gamer Zone right now. Used to be a time when calling somebody a "fanturd" of any kind would get you banned to the Open Zone for 48 hours. What happened to the moderation around here? Whenever I see the serious mudslinging going on I try to report it and nothing ever seems to get done.

Anyway, in regards to the topic, I do think that Capcom's games are a little less than stellar this generation. I bought into the hype on Street Fighter IV and, while it's a well-constructed fighter, I fail to see how it was quite worthy of all the accolades it received. The graphics really aren't anything special, the gameplay is barely more than some than of the past Street Fighter games, the cast of characters is relatively small, the final boss of the campaign was horrible, there were no mini-games like in the original Street Fighter 2 with the barrel game and the car destroying game (personally, I really miss those little interludes), and so many alternate costumes that should have been on the disc and unlockable by accomplishing tasks in-game were released immediately after release as over-priced DLC. Quite frankly, I'm a little disappointed that I bought the game, and I hardly ever play it anymore after I got my fill in the first few weeks.

Resident Evil 5, on the other hand, was more fairly reviewed in my opinion. The reviews proclaimed that it was good, but not spectacular, and I agree with that. It was a fun but problematic game with a bit of an identity crisis. And again, they release DLC shortly after game launch, and it could have been on the disc.

They've been an alright developer this generation, but I don't think that their titles hold as much quality in them as they once did. Devil May Cry 4, as another example, was pretty good, certainly better than DMC 2, but it didn't come close to the original or DMC 3.

My main issue with Capcom right now is that they seem to be really spearheading this DLC sales model where they release content almost immediately after a game's release that should have been on the disc, and they charge quite a bit for it all, too. I mean, come on, the amount of money that it costs just to get some stupid additional costumes for your virtual fighters in Street Fighter IV is insane. It costs more than your average WiiWare, PSN, or XBLA game just for some costumes that do absolutely nothing to change the way the game plays? That's a rip-off in my opinion.

air13813d ago (Edited 3813d ago )

@ your dead rising comment,

almost every game has some kinda similar aspect to it but that doesnt mean that it cant be a game of it's own. i mean what are you saying that because we played gauntlet etc. means that we should never ever play another game that is remotely like it?

i dont get you. you say that lost planet was no good had bad story, ai etc. but then go on to say that you dont play kz2 for the story or gameplay?!! now thats being a hypocrite at its best. lmfao graphics is innovation to you? better graphics are expected as years go on so i guess by your logic every game that looks better than kz2 already spells out innovation..

nothing is innovative in halo? halo 3 has nothing innovative? im not even going to get into the online features that game has you should know them by now. lets just say it came out in 07 and the first ps3 exclusive to even try and come close to its online features just came out the other month. but i know by your logic innovation is GRAPHICS..

to that hypocrite comment

doesnt that apply to lost planet too? i mean just cause you didnt enjoy the game doesnt mean that every one else feels the same. "to each his own" no??

no sales dont make a game great, but it shows how many ppl think it is great. i mean c'mon how does a game that is sooo terrible like you make it out to be sell 10 million? i know you are going to call hype this and that, if its not a great game it will not sell that much on just 1 console end of story..

their is nothing innovative about kz2 other then a fps cover system thats it.. graphics are not innovative, lmfao i guess the original xbox won a ton of graphics innovative awards last gen huh and won the hearts of like over 100 million ppl cause of it..

anyway i think capcom is doing great better then a company i know of that owns like 20 studios and came out the gate with a limp d!ck..

Jinxstar3813d ago (Edited 3813d ago )

@ air 1

let me break down your comment a piece at a time.

"almost every game has some kinda similar aspect to it but that doesnt mean that it cant be a game of it's own."

The comment I was refering to was "Never played ANYTHING like it." There are a lot of things like it.

"i mean what are you saying that because we played gauntlet etc. means that we should never ever play another game that is remotely like it?"

Never said anything of the sort nor mean't it that way. Just saying in the grand scheme I see DR as "Waves of mindless enemies you need to mow down to move on using different weapons/means" Many of those games I mentioned seem to fit the bill. Them being zombies made up for the lack of AI so it's ok imo.

"i dont get you. you say that lost planet was no good had bad story, ai etc. but then go on to say that you dont play kz2 for the story or gameplay?!! lmfao graphics is innovation to you? better graphics are expected as years go on so i guess by your logic every game that looks better than kz2 already spells out innovation.."

LP had a bad story imo, KZ2 had a bad story IMO. I played the campaigns and now I don't play them anymore. Like I said to each his own but in overall it's hard to say KZ2 deserves less merit then LP as you seem to think or imply I mean the opposite. here's the rub. How many people still play LP or played it for any extended period of time like many enjoy KZ2. I bet the ratio is much higher in terms of overall replay for KZ2. Also check the reviews of both games.

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BAsically I am implying KZ2 is better. Not for me but for the majority of gamers and reviewers. Maybe not you either. Like I said I played KZ2 and don't anymore but I appreciate the time, production value and accomplishments guerilla have made in pushing graphics, ai, set and pacing beyond what I had hoped for. If you can't see that I am sorry.

"nothing is innovative in halo? halo 3 has nothing innovative? im not even going to get into the online features that game has you should know them by now. lets just say it came out in 07 and the first ps3 exclusive to even try and come close to its online features just came out the other month. but i know by your logic innovation is GRAPHICS.."

No innovation comes in many forms. LittleBigplanet is a prime example of innovation. Dead Space pushed Sci Fi and horror in a new dimension (For me). Diablo 2 did wonders for me as far as customization(Back in the day). many upcoming titles look amazing in many many ways like god of War or Heavy rain or Sims 3 or Diablo 3... Will they be great amazing games? Who knows. Will they be everything I hope for(unlike Spore) who knows but the way they are approached is spot on imo. Halo's online? I guess when you compare it to PS3 and not PC then you may see some innovation but even still UT3 on the PS3 has fully modded levels( http://www.youtube.com/watc... ). Halo has boxes you can put in different places...

"doesnt that apply to lost planet too? i mean just cause you didnt enjoy the game doesnt mean that every one else feels the same. "to each his own" no??"

Spot on. If someone else liked it then great. If someone thinks it's the best game ever awesome. I, along with many many sites, many reviewers, many gamers and others were dissapointed in the factors mentioned above and many other things. If you or anyone else likes it then game on. Seriously thats why we are here isn't it? games.

"no sales dont make a game great, but it shows how many ppl think it is great. i mean c'mon how does a game that is sooo terrible like you make it out to be sell 10 million? i know you are going to call hype this and that, if its not a great game it will not sell that much on just 1 console end of story.."

How many people on here hated GTA4? How many people were let down by games this gen? sims sold 100 million. am I gonna buy it? Hell no. For us "Hardcore" gamers Wii sales don't matter. Wii sports outselling any PS3/360 titles doesn't make it good. It makes it hyped. Call me a liar if you like but it's true.

"their is nothing innovative about kz2 other then a fps cover system thats it.. graphics are not innovative, lmfao i guess the original xbox won a ton of graphics innovative awards last gen huh and won the hearts of like over 100 million ppl cause of it.."

The FPS cover system has been done before many times. The Xbox didn't sell 100 million. The PS2 did. God of war 2 looked better then any Xbox game I remember. Don't use random numbers and untrue facts. Make a logical argument and I'll respond back to you.

As per Mirriam Webster innovation "the introduction of something new" The engine is new, The style is new and a lot of other things are "New" in KZ2. and new in a very very forward thinking and impressive way.

"anyway i think capcom is doing great better then a company i know of that owns like 20 studios and came out the gate with a limp d!ck.."

Wow... if your refering to sony then rock on. To each his own man. Really if the 360 is your cup of tea then rock on. I could care less. knock them all you want but look at the lineup first.

N4g_null3813d ago

DID any of you guys read the story LOL?

It's mostly about" How do you weigh in on the issue of CAPCOM’s treatment of DLC?"

DLC sucks period right now. Why because you have to pay for it and it still suck. Digital art books would be nice but expensive, OST as DLC would be nice, expensive! The whole online trophy then is a little lame also. I mean who really respects those things? A high score is great though, the question is can you defend that score?

Man you guys really hate capcom huh? I'm not crazy about the US office but japan rocks except for the guy that did dead rising, hey but I have to give him a pass. You see the xbox 360 was the hardest HD system to work on due to it have weak tools in the beginning. Now there really isn't an excuse and lost planet 2 proves this along with res evil.

Capcoms strong point has alway been their artist and it seems that is building back up also. It really does take time to find great artist some times. Yet things are coming together.

N4g_null3813d ago

Final fight was not innovative it just had way better art than every thing else out. Capcom has it's point but just like nintendo they turn to waht will make them money and they turn to their artist mostly.

DaTruth3813d ago (Edited 3813d ago )

Yesterday: Capcom to lean on the PS3!
Today: Has Capcom lost its way!

Why am I not surprised? The media's PS3 hate never ceases to amaze me.

Lost Planet was terrible! When I played that game I shot up a car, it blew up and it completely disappeared from existence! All the enemies did the same. Talk about technically inferior... to almost every next gen game!

air13813d ago (Edited 3813d ago )

"i mean what are you saying that because we played gauntlet etc. means that we should never ever play another game that is remotely like it?"

Never said anything of the sort nor mean't it that way. Just saying in the grand scheme I see DR as "Waves of mindless enemies you need to mow down to move on using different weapons/means" Many of those games I mentioned seem to fit the bill. Them being zombies made up for the lack of AI so it's ok imo.

ok, i see your point. they fit the bill, if you you want to categorize games in that way. what if though it was the first time for many of us to be locked in a mall with zombies? hundreds of zombies at that. how many games have you played that let you mow down zombies? how many have you ran over with a car b4? it's like you said innovation is many things like settings and stories. i though that the story was good but of course that is just my opinion. all i know is that i cant wait for the 2nd...

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LP had a bad story imo, KZ2 had a bad story IMO. I played the campaigns and now I don't play them anymore. Like I said to each his own but in overall it's hard to say KZ2 deserves less merit then LP as you seem to think or imply I mean the opposite. here's the rub. How many people still play LP or played it for any extended period of time like many enjoy KZ2. I bet the ratio is much higher in terms of overall replay for KZ2. Also check the reviews of both games.

like you said to each is own right?! well i think that the story sucks bad. dont you think it sucks that the ppl on the other planet are just like us? i dont think lp's story was that bad i mean its not like they had a 4 or 5 year dev time. technically kz2 pwns all games at the moment but when it comes to replay value we all know that halo 3 is the king in this gen when it comes to replay value. kz2 is living off of graphics, graphics age quicker when compared to gameplay/replay value. kz2 is it right now of course it has a more play time than lp when did that game come out in like 06/early 07? it wasnt all that strong in mp to compete but the ppl that did and do play it know its good..

like it or not halo3 set the bar as far as replay value online goes lets see how long kz2 will last after modern warfare 2. halo3 held on good after world at war and still is. how else can we measure a great success? npd numbers wont help cause we all know that we dont play sales right.. .

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How many people on here hated GTA4? How many people were let down by games this gen? sims sold 100 million. am I gonna buy it? Hell no. For us "Hardcore" gamers Wii sales don't matter. Wii sports outselling any PS3/360 titles doesn't make it good. It makes it hyped. Call me a liar if you like but it's true.

how many ppl on n4g hated gta4 you ask? just about every ps3 owner. the question should be how many ppl liked it have you seen the reviews? never mind i know just fill in your conspiracy theory. i have been let own by certain games like alone in the frikin dark ( 360 version you know the beta one) but not by all games this gen. wolverine game just pulled a left field on me uncharted and gears did too and many others..

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The FPS cover system has been done before many times. The Xbox didn't sell 100 million. The PS2 did. God of war 2 looked better then any Xbox game I remember. Don't use random numbers and untrue facts. Make a logical argument and I'll respond back to you.

oh, it has? didnt know that care to name a few im not being sarcastic. i am no pc gamer either. no im not, i even hate solitary or what ever its called, so sue me. lets keep this on consoles or move it along to some pc gamer site.. i know the ps2 sold that many lol i was being sarcastic but failed. god of war is THE game. thats my number 1 game hell even god of war 1 looks god today. in graphics though i think you look over ninja gaiden.

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Steve0073813d ago

There is not doubt that capcom has made some of the best games that have come out this generation but there is no denying that they have become really hungry for money lately much like EA.

ChickeyCantor3813d ago

WTF is up with that logic? That they want money...
Its as if Quality is only made when they loose money, not gain some.
When they make soemthing thats not so liked( in the gamers mindset ) they want "money".

Never knew companies were money hungry, i guess we should keep our money where its at, our pockets...Yes that will magically make these developers make quality games....

Foxgod3813d ago

Capcom is a company, and the goal of every company in the world is to survive, best way to survive is by growing.
You know whats good about company's that grow?
They can employ more people, bigger companies = more jobs = good thing.

Rhezin3813d ago

THANK-YOU. Finally someone with enough sense to mention a fantastic franchise that Capcom NEEDS to make nex-gen. Onimusha 5 would be mind-blowing I REALLY HOPE THEY ANNOUNCE SOMETHING ABOUT IT at e3.

Johnny Rotten3813d ago

I give Capcom credit for putting out a lot of good games, but they all seem to fall short of being worth the $60 and the need to keep them in my collection.

Timesplitter143813d ago

All "huge" devs have lost their way except for Blizzard

I'd say Valve too if it wasn't for Gabe Newell

Kushan3813d ago

What the title hasn't really given away here is the article's main focus is Capcom's attitude towards DLC, not the games they've released. Capcom has easily been one of the best 3rd party devs this generation with a fair few hits under their belt, but lately the "penny-pinching" DLC has left some with a sour taste in their mouth and I'm inclined to agree.
However, it's not Capcom alone doing this, EA and others have been known to do this for a while now. I think it's unfair to single out Capcom over the issue when EVERYONE'S doing it. Even the likes of COD4/5 map packs - 800 points/£6-8 for a few maps? That's nearly 1/3 of the value of the game! Or at the very most, 1/4, yet it's maybe what, 5% of the game? It's a joke.

It's only going to get worse, too.

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