New Wipeout Game in Development for PS3

Sony's UK studio is looking for a senior/lead designer to help bring Wipeout to the PS3 platform. This would all but confirm that the next game in the series appears to be in development.

FROM SCEE's RECRUITMENT PAGE:

Senior/Lead Designer - URGENT

Wipeout
Wipeout is the most revered, innovative and respected arcade/action racing franchise of Sony Computer Entertainment Worldwide Studios.

The Task
To have a key role in realising future iterations of Wipeout on PSP and PS3.

Responsibilities
- Being instrumental in defining & maintaining the creative direction of a major SCEE franchise.
- Have a good understanding of the games market & the ability to identify the key factors in producing commercially successful products.
- Be aware of the needs of the global target audience & be able to deliver designs which satisfy those needs.

Prior Experience
- A strong track record of leading major projects.
- Responsibility for the creative direction of at least one commercially successful shipped product.

Personal Qualities
- Ability to generate original and innovate ideas.
- An interest in contemporary trends in art, design and music would be an advantage.
- Excellent communication and interpersonal skills.


Though pretty much expected this is the first proof that a next-gen version of Wipeout is in (or will soon be) development for the PS3.

[mikeeno7]

Ohhhhh, another sequel...Sony please, don't do this to your fans...

[bloop]

Some of my fave games are sequels. Theres nothing wrong with taking something thats good and making it better. Just one example, GTA:San Andreas. I say roll on the sequels. I was hoping Wipeout would make it to next-gen.

[ACE]

yeah like there final fatasy 12 or is it 14 lol ,,, then you have riiiidggge raaaccccceeeerrrr 7 lol what a joke ..............so whats this wipeout 7 or 10 hmmmm sick of it

[FamoAmo]

"Theres nothing wrong with taking something thats good and making it better"

- Yeah kind of like everything Sony did with their console copied the competitors and made it better... "Roll on the sequals"-Man that is pathetic You are buying a next gen console called ps3 not the remade ps2!! Originality is what its all about. MGS is the only series I like that is sequal.. FF sucks its old time for something new... LOOK AT THE 360 GAME LINE UP IT MAKES THE PS3 LINE UP LOOK LIKE CRAP!!!!!!!

[Shadow Flare]

360:

Halo 3
Gears of War 2
Forza Motorsport 2
Project Gotham Racing 3

PS3:

Metal Gear Solid 4
Gran Turismo 5
Final Fantasy 13
Killzone 2

Both consoles have sequals and both have brand new titles. And besides, a sequal to a game means that it is very successful and popular. Anyone would rather have a sequal to a brilliant game then a whole field of crap ones. And besides, if a gmae has MORE sequals, such as Final Fantasy (1-13), then that means its INCREDIBLY successful. I mean 13 games in the series? That's phenomenal. It may not appeal to you, but who cares about you? Millions of other people love Final Fantasy (including me) so shut ur sasshole boy and cut the crap about ps3 being ALL about sequals

[TheMART]

Killzone 2, does it still exist? Haven't heard or seen from it for 1,5 YEARS now

Gears of War is the Killzone 2 CGI you all saw @ E3 2005 in real time. Available this Christmas. Only on 360. Jump in

[AIan]

Ummm ok... next. I am so glad the PS3 will fail. So sayeth Alan

[achira]

sorry but the ps3 will not fail it will rule, hahahaaaaaaaaaaa

[NitrogenB]

if you're so sure sony will fail...what r u doin in the sony forums....dude, get a life. leave, go put your big boy panties on, and post on your xbox 1.5 playland...

[Cyclonus]

this isn't a Sony forum; its a universal games' site.
people can say whatever they like about PS3 garbage.

[achira]

you are wrong this is a ps3 topic !!! cant you read ??? if someone hates sony and the ps3 he should not read that topics. period.

[NitrogenB]

that's riiiiiiight! WOW, it IS a ps3 topic, so my statement still stands! amazing, and you're still a little boy who needs to go to his corner Alan...

[NitrogenB]

Hey, do me a favor...which system is highlighted up on the top left...HOLY CRAP! it's ps3!, so this IS a sony forum, go flame somewhere else little boy...

[Thor1j1]

its rocked from ps1 to psp. i just hope that the ps3 games arent 99 dollars, i really dont fee llike paying 109 dollars for a game in canada. i have a 360, and the 69 dollars plus tax is outrageous. anyways, i love this series, and i hope its affordable.

[Bill Nye]

th3 futur3 i5 n0w!!!!

[PS3 Owns All]

The future does NOT START until Sony releases........The PlayStation 3!

[shotty]

Why? so we can have blu-ray. Next gen started Nov 22, 2005. Sony can't tout their system as next gen since the xbox 360 started the new gen.

[ACE]

what with singstar and a waterd down beta-ray drive ..

back to the post hmmmm so whats this wipe out 7 or is it 10? borring lol

[Bill Nye]

It was a decal on one of the models in the screenshots. Laughorific.

[FamoAmo]

Common Sony is so dissapointing!! This is an arcade game if anything put it in the arcade game section. Its old as hell!! Sorry but this is another dissapointing title... THE 360 HAS WAY BETTER GAME LINEUP..SONY LOST HELLA SUPPORT AND I AM SURE GLAD I GOT THE 360..I was going to purchase PS3 over Wii b/c of the games but not anymore they are either multi or plain suck balls. I Wii will be sitting next to the 360!!

[JIN KAZAMA]

THE 360 HAS WAY BETTER GAME LINEUP..SONY LOST HELLA SUPPORT AND I AM SURE GLAD I GOT THE 360, SONY SUCKS, I LOVE MY 360, TEH GAMES ON 360 ARE SWEET, SONY IS HORRIBLE, WITH THEIR BETA-BLU RAY, WITH THEIR OVER HYPED MACHINE. HAHAHAHA SONY SUCKS, HAHAHAA SONY IS HORRIBLE, HAHAHAHA PSZERO, HAHAHAH POS3, HAHAHAHA DELAYSTATION, HAHAHAHA SONY SUCKS, 360 IS WAAAAAY BETTER, HAHAHAHAH XBOXLIVE RULEEEEESSSSSS, HAHAHAHAHA FONYSTATION, HAHAHAHAHAHA SONY SUCKS, I WILL NEVER BUY IT, I AM SO GLAD I HAVE MY 360, AND I WILL BUY THE WII, HAHAHAHAH I HATE SONY.

p.s. but i'll still look at every new piece of information and comment on it, even though i hate it.
(to all the 360 fanboys).

[FamoAmo]

I would feel the same hatred if the 360 announced the crap games Sony is announcing!! Its ok bro!! And Jin you have flamed the 360 articles before and hey remember all the ps3 flamers about the 360 back when it was released? Now that the ps3 is soon released its time for a taste of your own medicine.. I would feel the same hatred if I waited an extra year for nothing but sh!t [email protected]@ titles and graphics that look a little better thamn the ps2!! I feel ya bro thats why I got the 360!! :)

[Shadow Flare]

That's YOUR opinion. Stop preaching about it. And lemme tell you Wipeout is an awesome game, i love it.

A little history of wipeout by the way...

Wipeout was one of the games that redefined the gaming industry. Because it was one of the games that aided the psone into 'making gaming cool'.

At the time, when you looked around, what did you see? Fat, batty italian plumbers jumping on mushrooms? Or PC's with ol' dungeons and dragons? That's the impression the public got of gamers, either they're a batty man or a geek.

But when the psone released games like wipeout (with its fast paced, futuristic, 3D, weapons galore, pumpin futuristic dance music), it appealed to a whole different type of person. You're cool teen/middle aged guy. And when you compare music in games, nintendo had fancy electro-organ playing 'mushroom kingdom' viva italia, while wipeout had music like 'Firestarter' by The Prodigy. So which is cooler?

And with games like wipeout, it helped make the whole gaming scene cool. So show some respect, or you'd still be a batty boy jumping on mushrooms and falling down green frickin pipes

[KoRnALIVE]

1. Wipeout 3 - My fav PS1 game, I still play it.

Wipeout is an outstanding game series. I've played them all and given the craptastic Wipeout Fusion, Sony owe us a good console version again

[NitrogenB]

wipeout fusion sucked...it was kinda hard too..but I dig the past wipeouts, this one should be awsome all next-genned out and stuff...

[TheMART]

So this must compete with

Gears of War
Lost World
Too Human
Viva Piniata
Halo 3
GTA4 with exclusive downloadable content
Forza 2
Fable 2
Moto GP '06
Chromehounds

Do I have to go on?

WHIPEOUT?

It was fun at my PS1, but damn Sony what's next.
Are there more sequels that make me NOT want to buy a PS3?

[Cyclonus]

benji 2
wackhawk (remake)
unsold legends (psp sequel)

[NitrogenB]

Its hilarious how you m$ fanBOYS always ending up posting in ps3 forums, maybe cause there is nuthing to talk about on the xbox 1.5 forums...because xbox 1.5 has been out almost a year and they have WHAT to show for it.....oblivion...holy crap, you kidding me! But wait! Gears of War and Prey are right around the corner!!....waiting to bomb...whatever, go back to your own kind....pathetic.

[JIN KAZAMA]

the 360 has been out for about a year now, and the only decent game they have is GRAW. And honestly, that isnt even that great. MotoGP got decent reviews, nothing spectacular. I am waiting for the PS3, because of the Great games, even the launch titles are looking way ahead of the 360 launch lineup. Also, the ONLINE service, FREE ONLINE PLAY. The BLU-RAY, I have a HDTV, 1080i, i dont care about 1080p, as long as I can watch my movies at 1080i, its good enough for me. The great controller, you can say its a biting off of the wii, but who cares if it is, its a great idea. Hopefully they putt the rumble in though. a 200 dollar differnce is not that much for what you are getting. 360 fans bought the 400 dollar dvd player with a misreable launch lineup, and to this day, with only one decent game. My friend has a 360, and he says he spends most of his time playing the original xbox, and PS2. Ans this guy is a HARDCORE 360 fan. Think about it, all you 360 fanboys could have saved enough money from last november to easily buy a 360, but instead wasted it on crappy games, fee for xboxlive, and accessories.

[TheMART]

So which descent launch game will the PSZero have then?

If I watch their launch site it's all not much.

Furthermore, name me games compared to the launch games AND the games PSZero will be competing against around Christmas:

- GRAW
- Oblivion
- FNR3
- PGR3
- Kameo
- Condemned
- Moto GP '06 (it had great reviews and it's not possible to do on last gen my friend)

And around Christmas you can't beat them with Warhawk, Wipeout and other dull sequels

- Gears of War
- Forza 2
- Viva Piniata
- Lost World
- Too Human

And the list goes on and on.

Oh yeah the so named 'exclusive' that will be on 360 also is gone: Assassins Creed. So investing your money in a 200 dollar cheaper 360 (where you can at least get 3 games extra for) is a wiser descision for sure for a gamer without stupid Sony Lies Fan Loyalty

Oh yeah FREE ONLINE PLAY

If you believe that will be, or at least will be a descent online service you must be as dumb as a sheeps *rs. These servers getting up and maintaning them for the life cycle of the console costs much, very much money.

Where do you think Fony is going to pay that from? From their almost 600 million dollar lost each quarter of this year? You think they pay that from each console sold with loss?

When do you ignorant fanboys seem to get that the only viable online gaming service is possible to life by paying some money for it?

Don't you want to understand? Someone is going to charge you, Fony or game producer. And it will be at least as expensive as Live. Mark my words. And if not, it will be the same sh*tty online experience the PS2 had for sure

[Cyclonus]

its easy, you're so defensive, like criticizing pos3 games is like insulting your family members or someting. Ps3 sucks, its games will suck. get a wii, or get over it.

[NitrogenB]

too bad wii will outsell xbox 1.5 by the end of the year......10 million units by ps3 launch....please. Lucky if you have half of that, people are going to be hocking in the xbox 1.5 to get a true next-gen machine...

[TheMART]

You must be in the same hole in Afghanistan as Bin Laden is hidden.

The 360 will have sold half of that, which is 5 million, by this time. It sells 300.000 pieces every month in USA. Europe, Australia and other countries combined will sell another 500.000 to 600.000. Together around 800.000 or so per month. And sales are shifting in higher gears. So expect the 10 million figure to be reached. Easily. So

June 2006

360 sold 5 million
PSZero sold ZERO

Christmas 2006

360 sold 10 million
PSZero is or released and sold Zero at that time, or is delayed, or is cancelled (with 600 million dollar loss every 3 months that's not a strange thought)

[NitrogenB]

If you belive M$ will sell 10 mil consoles by the end of the year, you better pull your head out of their butt, wake up dude, you're dreamin'!, it will never happen, like I said wii will outsell the xbox 1.5 a couple months after it's launch, so go home and put your xbox 1.5 on ice, it's overheating!

[TheMART]

At least I have numbers to count on. You're only counting on your own little wet dream.

End of june FACT 360 sold 5 million systems
USA: 300.000 a month
Europe/Australia/rest of the world: another 500.000 to 600.000 at least.

Total at least 800.000 a month. And sales are getting into higher gear with every new game that comes out.

So 6 months to go times at least 800.000 sold a month, makes 4.800.000 at least. Total around 10 million before the end of this year for sure.

@ Christmas you'll have:

360 with Gears of War, Forza 2 and all the other titles that make 160 in total

PSZero with almost Zero games. Oh yeah Warhawk, well that will be a system seller!

Wii with a couple of great games, but no competition for the target group of 360. Which is 18 to 35 year old public. They want the best graphics, the console with the best exclusives and a mature online system. Which is 360.

Wii will sell to childish Japanese people and mostly under 18. AND as the second system besides having a 360 for older people.

[Sevir04]

because it's a sequel.... i can gaurantee that every one has bought sequels in the past... what the freak is the big idea... ur here taking about ps3 has no title just sequels... the amount of sequels u guys have... forza and fable... both those games were over rated... and didn't deliver the way they should... and look at all those freakin Madden games... talk about sequels... all ready Unreal is about to start Gears of war two and your talkin about sequels like it's a bad thing... Good games all deserve sequels thats why they are made... if u've notice you've basically bought the Xbox 360 just for it's sequel... like you guys have... look how many halo's you have already... dead or alive 4 and each and a beach volley ball game ... wtf? and ur complaining... ur arguements are only making a double edge statment bashing both the 360 and the ps3... which makes no sense at all... because in a consoles life time more than 70 percent of its titles will be composed of nothing but sequels and if the developer wishes.. then they'll do prequels or spin off... look at how many prince of persia' there are... remakes and ports and sequels. why disband what has established growth and revenues and console popularity... if u all dont mind sharp developers might do away with sequels to games that deserve sequels or sequels period... and then suddenly all gaming will come to a hault because we played such a great game that wont have a sequel when it so needs one and then suddenly a console does't look to attractive...... "role over the sequels... ha u all need to STFU. just about all the games that commenter 9 posted is a sequel or will have sequels to follow it in the coming years of it's life... forza2,halo3, fable2, motogp06, GTA4, CoD2 (and now a cod3 is on it's way by years end wtf?) all established sequels... why the f*** aren't u complaining... instead ur looking forward to it... oh i know why they are all for the xbox 360..... babies is what all u flamers are... note that Too human's developer has already set in stone that it will be a trilogy... gears of war will be as well and bioware's bioshock is a sequel. so whats with the complaining? keep ur arses still all of u ps3 bashers and get alife because ur argument is making ur xbox 360 look even more un atractive... Viva piniata... lmao!!! what the hell is MS thinking..
look at that even halo has a spin off... that upcoming halo forrunner... wtf.. halo even has a movie... how's that for sequels and spin offs... u should all just come to adult hood and see that with every new console u get, there will be sequels to games that have established them selves as great games... and they will continue to do so.. so stop complaining. This and besides whipe only had like four games.. wp wp:fusion wp:pure and now a next gen Wp... get over ur selves and quit bashing it and calling it crap because it's PS3... because it's first gen games are already looking just as good as the 360's second gen games... especially because developers had more time to work on final kits than they did for the 360 when it was about to launch... this next gen wipeout is sure to be good and will take advantage of ps3's power and online system... and i'll be sure like many other unbiased gamers will as well... later Xbox360 fans and ps3 flamers i hope what i've left here will open ur eyes...

[NitrogenB]

but entirely too long bro...

[TheMART]

Ofcourse every console has GOOD sequels if it's done properly.

But wipeout? Comeon. Can't compare that to Halo 2 or 3, Fable 2 (Fable one is a great game, you can't deny) or Forza 2 (Forza 1, go read the reviews it was at least as good as GT4).

Then there are so many new exclusives on 360 I don't see them on PSZero:

Gears of War
Too Human
Lost World
Chromehounds
Viva Piniata

And more. There are only 16 exclusives given by Sony for PSZero. There are 40 for 360. Then compare what exclusives:

Warhawk? Pfffff Motorstorm? Compare the ingame with CGI footage of E3 2005. It's not much there of original hype is it. Full Auto which 360 just dumped because it stinks like h*ll.

What's left? Assassins Creed? Will come to 360 also.

Playstation 3 exclusive games (not announced for Xbox 360):
Devil May Cry 4
Eyedentify
Fifth Phanton Saga
Final Fantasy (XII?)
Getaway 3
Gundam World
Heavenly Sword
I-8
Killing Day
Killzone 2
Metal Gear Solid 4
MotorStorm
Ni-Oh
Tekken
Vision Gran Turismo
Warhawk

Xbox 360 exclusive games (not announced for PS3):
Amped 3
APB
Battle Angel
Battlefield 2: Modern Combat
Blue Dragon
Burnout Revenge
Call of Duty 2
Call of Duty 3
Chrome Hounds
Dead or Alive 4
Dead or Alive Code: Cronus
Dead or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball 2
Dead Rising
Demonik
Dog Tag
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
Fable 2
Final Fantasy XI
Frame City Killer
Gears of War (nr. 2 is also already announced)
Godfather
Halo 3
Huxley
Kameo: Elements of Power
Lost Odyssey
Metronome
Monster Madness
Need for Speed Most Wanter
Ninety-Nine Nights
Outfit
Perfect Dark Zero
Prey
Project Gotham Racing 3
Quake 4
Saints Row
Test Drive Unlimited
Thesis
Tomb Raider: Legend
Tony Hawk’s American Wasteland
Top Spin 2

So there you have the reasons to change from PS to 360

[andy capps]

TheMART- Have you ever thought about the fact that not every game in production for PS3 has been announced? Were all the games you mentioned for Xbox 360 announced 6 months before launch? And I believe you're missing some of the PS3 games, is that list from last E3?

Out of that XCrap 360 list, quite a few of those were already released on PS2 previously, of course they're not on PS3 (yet) as it's not out.

Call of Duty 3- will be on PS3 as well
Final Fantasy XI- Have fun with a several year old PS2 game that was upscaled and ported for XCrap 360.
Monster Madness- This is PS3 as well.
Tomb Raider Legend- I know this was on PS2, PSP, and will probably be on PS3 as well.
Tony Hawk's American Wasteland is on PS3 as well.

For the PS3 list you can add:
Final Fantasy XIII
Final Fantasy XIII: Versus
Fatal Inertia
Tekken 6
Unreal Tournament 2007
Untitled Naughty Dog Game
Mercenaries 2
Coded Arms: Assault
Eight Days
Ratchet and Clank sequel
Afrika
Monster Hunter 3
Lair (one of the games I'm most excited about)
Endless Saga
Shin Megami Tensei
Redwood Falls
The Wall
Untitled Western Shooter from Rockstar Games
LA Noire
Bomberman
Rengoku: The End of the Century
Makai Wars
Taito's Extreme
Project Force
Then there's tons of Japanese games that not many Americans would care about, but will be able to play due to no region-encoding on PS3 games. There's also more games, this is just the ones that I noticed from Gamespot's list that are exclusive.

[NitrogenB]

....denied...see, it's easy.

[Organization XII]

your such a fool we ps3 fans worship sony and its products whether they're good or not..
so plz shutup 360 fanboyz becoz ps3 and sony is our GOD, so its ok to insult my family but never ever insult the ps3 again..And thats a warning...

[Cyclonus]

i see what you did there

[NitrogenB]

that's funny # 14....haha,man.....what are you, like...5..yrs old?? maybe 6? go put your big-boy panties on, and hug an xbox 1.5...

[NitrogenB]

hahaha, what are you gonna do? go play w/ your kiddie little xbox 1.5...hahaha, what a moron.

[The Real Deal]

I loved this game for the playstation. It was one of my favorite games. I look foward to this for the ps3. Good news. There isn't anything wrong with sequels. Out of all the games announced for the ps3 that are exclusive this is the only one that raises an eyebrow for me. Now is it worth 70 or 80 dollars. We'll see.

[InSpectre]

Me too. It's a great concept. It's really the only series I can think of that Sony has kept going all these years. Looking forward to seeing more!

[THAMMER1]

I wont say it is Sony fault if this game bombs. Sony has done their part by providing a console the developers have the task of making the game great. This game was cool when I was 12 but now it would have to be very involved to keep my interest.

[Sevir04]

The ps3 will rock... and this game will. Wipe out pure was a revitalization to the series and this will certainly build on that sucess... Wp:pure had the downloadable content and new cares and tracks and it was all done on a psp.. which to dat is out selling the 360... and ur telling me that the 360 will have sold 10 million by years end... ok... first off M$ had to reproject there sles claim because they couldn't sell 6 million by june 2006... they just recently crossed the 5 million mark and they are just starting to have the console close to the point were everyone can just go in store and get them. by this christmas the Wii will release and the Ps3 will be out and both consoles would have garnered all all the attention... MS wont really have much sales because the King of console s will be on market... and people are gonna be interesting in finding out what the ps3 can do.. every ps3 fan out there whether hard core or not will buy either configurations of Ps3 and they'll have fun playing it... Gears of war wont even do a thing... people and to #13.2 dont post unless u research... about half of the games you've listed are multiplatformer games and will be availible withing the ps3's launch window.. Fight night Round 3, Need for speed Carbon, call of duty 3, medal of honor air borne, rainbow 6, ghost recon, army of 2 splinter cell :double agent, so and even though you have that many new Ip exclusives we have just as many and they are all first party alone. and we have quite a few 3rd party ones as well. so dont be mad Xbox fanboys... just be prepared to compare it all side by side this november when ps3 launches... and oh the Wii will out sell the 360 within a few months of it's launch or if not it will basically tie with it.

[TheMART]

It doesn't matter what's within the launch window this time around.

It matters what's available @ Christmas.
Those months mean everything.

And what rocks the shops this Christmas? (selling time from november/december). We'll have to talk about exclusive system sellers

360:
Gears of War
Forza 2

Those will sell systems

PS3
Warhawk? That won't sell systems for sure
Wipeout???

[Sevir04]

ok i can think of a few sellers for ps3 that are first party exclusive... for one warhawk is definately one, Resistance: FoM, Heavenly Sword. and then there's 3rd party exclusives for this launch... most notably sega, Full auto 2, virtua fighter 5. both were awesome at E3 and was ganering alot of attention at the sony booths... but hey i dont have to say anything we'll see the fireworks fly this november and december... i',m not here to start a flame war so i'm saying that Ps3 will do quite well and Xbox 360 will sell units too, and even the wii
Gears of war might sell the 360, but not forza.. as a matter of fact forza2 wont even be out till next year... and if it did come out this year it would have to compete with Gran Turismo HD which is releasing this year and running at True HD... Forza at 720p v.s GTHD at 1080p... ok right a system sell forza not a chance. wipeout was never even confirmed as a launch title... but it will definately be a system seller... it's one of the titles that sold the psp... which is selling much more units to date than the Xbox360 and that system is a next gen console... ok... the Ps3 will have several games that will sell it

[bLo0p]

If theyre only looking for a lead designer now, Wipeout is hardly going to be a launch title. But as you said:
" It matters what's available @ Christmas.
Those months mean everything."
The PS3 will be available for Christmas, and the brand name alone will sell systems.

[bLo0p]

"Gran Turismo HD which is releasing this year "
I thought that was only a tech demo to show the PS3 running at 1080p??? Sony asked Polyphony could they show something at E3 so they threw that together in a few weeks. Not sure theyre releasing it. But the thought of GT5 has me drooling, especially hearing theyre finally (about frickin time) adding realtime damage to the vehicles. But that'll hardly be running at 1080p.

[TheMART]

Nope bloop, wrong thinking.

You think a kid wants to sit at home with a console without any games? Don't think so.

Games sell the console. Watch the selling figures of the PS2, the highest where after some time, when the GTA series sold the console. I believe the highest where in 2002/2003 (after 2/3 years of launch) and just recently also because of it's cheap ass price.

If name would sell, Nintendo would still be at the top. If you ask me, that's the one name that is for sure connected to gaming. But still they're never nr. 1 in sales of consoles, since a long time

[The Real Deal]

You have no clue. Forza sold over 2 million copies in less than 2 years. So it is a system seller. Grand Tourismo and every other title for the ps3 WILL NOT be using 1080p. You need to read a little more before you post B.S. And Grand Toursimo is a system seller for the ps3. The only thing is Grand Tourismo HD is only 20 percent done and won't come out till the holidays 2007 at the earliest. Also one other thing to note. The last Grand Tourismo sold 2 million copies in the united states and thats a drop from the previous title Grand Tourismo 3 which was 7 million copies in the USA. What that shows is even with more ps2's on the market...the second showing of Grand Tourismo on the ps2 sold 5 million LESS in the USA. So its support has dwindled instead of increased. It was cool when it first launched on the ps2 but 5 million gamers said "I'll pass on it" for Grand Tourismo 4 with a huge 100 million user base supposively. That tells the story of SONY's Biggest first party game.

[Sevir04]

I never told u or anyone that all ps3 games will be displaying 1080p... i mearly said that GTHD will be because it was displaying it at e3 and it was confirmed to be one of the feiw titles that will haul that visual clarity... socondly GT5 will be out next year holiday season... and it too will haul 1080p.. the develop at polyphony digitals said it himself... Next if u read my post carefully i never said GTHD will launch with the system from day one... if you like me to clarify that for you i said it's one of the games that will be within the lauch time frame of the ps3.. launch games and window encompassed the launch from day one of a system and the 2 months that follow its launch... the developer of GT has been working on GThd since last year.. at from what he said it's a revamped upscaled version of gt4.. so it's a graphically enhanced port of GT4 and he said at the conference that he hopes to have it out withing the launch window of the PS3 so that means anytime between day one of the PS3 and the 2 months to follow... dont u call what i post BS unless you know for for sure... GT4 sold 2 million in the Us within it's first year alone.. in japan it garnerd th just about the same amount of attention... so ur point is what?... "huge 100 million user base supposively" the stats are all there... the original xbox didn't even gain that 1/4 of that world wide what are you really trying to get at.... i mearly said that forza compared to GT isn't a system seller and the stats prove it... there is soo much heat and anticipation of GTHD and GT5 that it people cant wait... the playable demo for GTHD was rediculous people couldn't believe it was GT... and i'm saying BS because what i said forza aint much of a system seller.. please sir... lets not start another war.. because i'm much older than that... forza was over hyped and i'll close with that.

[TheMART]

There is no 100 million user database.

Many of those PS2's end up catching dust because the DVD drive stopped working after a relative short period of time. My sisters son 12 year old was very sad about it, didn't own it that long and can't play his games anymore.

Some friends of me, who were PS2 users, now switched to 360. All their drives can't play their games anymore. When they want to repair it, costs so much they'll just could buy a new one now. But they won't. They lost their trust in the quality of Sony's game consoles. At least MS has a great garantuee if it stops working. You call them. UPS is there the next day to pick it up. The day after that it's in Germany (in Europe it goes that way). If it's not repairable, you'll get a new one in no time. Within 5 to 10 days it's done most of the time.

You won't see Sony do that. That's called service.

To wrap it up: 100 million sold. I bet at least 30% to 40% having problems with their DVD drive after a short period of time. They bought some games and want to play them, so maybe 50% of them buy the PS2 again now it's so damn cheap. So I think about 20 million of PS2's are sold to previous owners at least.

Well best thing to know is: GTA sold the PS2. A game sold the freaking hardware. And GTA is not exclusive anymore.

Gears of War is system seller this Christmas.
As Forza 2 will be. Because @ Christmas there is no GT with the PS. And even when it will be there, it is a GT4upgrade PS2 version. Forza 2 will crush it.

So again: Christmas, PSZero, what will sell it:

Warhawk?

[The Real Deal]

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