Although video games are turning in record sales numbers, some recent releases are shining light on the scale of the illegal game downloading epidemic -- and it doesn't make comfortable reading.
Games are just as easy to download as movies and music. i think the point is. most people that download the games wouldnt bother playing them at all if they had to pay the £30 for it. and thoose that dont mind paying for it would still play it just the same so it really is irrelavant how many people download the games.
You are going to get flamed for that!
That sounds like pirate talk to me matey.
That's right. My mate is the biggest git for downloading games and having his consoles chipped that you ever met but 9 times out of ten he only downloads the games that he prolly wouldn't buy in the first place. Even a sly git like him buys the releases he really wants. The only exception to that is if he's really skint and then he might d/l one he'd have liked to buy(remember him doing it with Gears1 for PC)but again he'd argue that as he didn't have the cash anyway(therefore couldn't possibly buy it)he isn't actually taking revenue away from devs/publishers. While it's so damn easy, though, I reckon there are plenty of people abusing the system more than this. I've lost count of the number of people that have offered to chip my 360 or put loads of games on a DS cart for me-some didn't even want paying. So I guess there's real trouble there but your average PC/360/Wii gamer getting the odd pirated copy is less of an issue than the guys offering their nefarious services about-christ people selling DS on Ebay often openly advertise the fact you'll get a hundred games with the handheld from them! It isn't, imo then, the gamers that are causing the problem getting a game when they can't afford it or aren't that bothered but those using others work as a business op.
I do sort of agree what your saying as I remember when I was illegally downloading music I would download about 10 songs a day of pure crap that I only listened to it once. But now im buying music of iTunes I only buy about 2 a week as thats all I really want and need. Plus I listen to all the songs ive bought all the time, whereas I hardly listen to the songs I downloaded. And this would be the same with games.
I don't buy singleplayer games but I've played them. I don't pirate good multiplayer games but have bought them all. Take that as you will. cs, cod series, l4d, The orange box, wow, demigod, unreal series, quake series, hawx (came with my 4890), crysis, battlefield series. All of them are legit. I would have bought nba2k9 no questions asked had the online mode and living rosters not been dumped on the pc port. But I guess technically since I bought it for my brothers 360 I shouldn't care so much about it anymore since I still play it quite a bit.
evrfighter, you only buy multiplayer games because they're the one thing pirates haven't "cracked", unless you count playing "LAN" games with friends over hamachi (hardly the same as jumping into a server list with hundreds/thousands of other players). I'm one of the few people that are willing to stand up and point out how inaccurate and overblown a lot of these pirating statistics are (1.7million downloads is an $85million loss? Because each of those downloads represents a lost sale of $50? HA! I don't think so! Most of those downloads were never going to buy the game, many still bought the game and most that did wont have paid RRP for it - I certainly haven't paid the RRP on anything in years), but people like you are the ones I will not defend. Are you seriously trying to tell me that there hasn't been a good single player game released lately, in amongst lots of high-quality multiplayer titles? Mass Effect and Bioshock weren't worth your money? I don't think so.
"evrfighter, you only buy multiplayer games because they're the one thing pirates haven't "cracked"," exactly! if you can figure it out...why can't devs? though I didn't buy crysis for the multiplayer mode. The last singleplayer game I bought was Max payne and deus ex way back when. I own the total war series also but those have multiplayer features.
Games a lot of people wouldn't bother buying but download for free.
@Kushan: Actually, multiplayer games get cracked to. But people usually have to play on non official servers.
Thats why most devs should make the switch to PS3 development, as there is no piracy.
Thats why the PS2 became last gens nr. 1, because it could be pirated also? Piracy isn't a big thing on the consoles as long as the attach rate on the 360 is still highest of the 3 consoles this gen.
would you pay 1000 bucks for rock band?
Maybe I'm missing a reference here or something, but Rock Band isn't anywhere near $1000. Even then, pirating it would be somewhat pointless since you need the instruments to fully enjoy it. edit: Ah, I see South America. Still, there is little point in downloading Rock Band unless you have already paid for the instruments, in which case the price of the game would be more or less irrelevent.
All of you people are a bunch of pu**y a** whiners. Get over yourselves.
Because game developing is a job, and game developers like to get paid. No $$$ = No new games.
Grow up kid.
No web browser on the 360.
What the hell are you even talking about?
I'm talking about just about every major 360 game being pirated and leaked prior to release, including but not limited to Street Fighter 4 and Halo Wars.
and durrrrrrrrrrr that is why we don't have a web browser durrrrrrrrrrr Kushan it's another PS3 troll who is haunted by the 360 and of course didn't read the article to know this has nothing to do with the 360. Also he forgets that even with piracy 360 games still sell more than the PS3. 8 bubbles on this guy? For reals?
If I like a game enough: I'll buy it to show my support. That's all there is to it. Doesn't get any simpler than that.
the argument of, "i wasnt going to buy it anyway, so they didnt lose money", but it still sucks when i go to play a game i freakin BOUGHT with money that i EARNED, and i still cant play online b/c a bunch of [email protected] felt like stealing. if you werent gonna buy it anyway, dont freakin play it. nobody goes to a restaurant and says to the chef, if i like your food enough, i'll buy it. video games are the same thing. the chef already cooked the meal. if you end up not enjoying it, dont go tothe same restaurant.
There's a difference between food and video games. With video games, they finish the product and send that over to the publishing factories to get mass-stamped for sales over and over with some tech support. With food, the chef has to remake the same meal using the same amount of effort and maybe some more each and every time. They have to "tech support" the food and remake it again if the food is bad. So no, video games and food aren't the same because the chef is making the dish from scratch each and every time. Unless developers make each game disc from scratch every time and amend the game to every gamer's whim: your analogy is wrong. A better analogy is T-shirts to video games.
In all of the years of piracy, this is one of the first times I've recalled pirated copies actually interfering with legitimate copies. What happened, there? Is piracy really what caused it, or was it an oversight on stardock's part?
wether its mass produced or not, the developers have already spent the money to make the game. the service has already been rendered. to play and not pay is STEALING. its killing the pc game industry. EA is already saying no more disc games. people think pirating is all good until no more pc games come out b/c the industry cant support itself.
EA doesn't control the PC gaming world and they never will. The funny fact is that if one developer can't cater to what the consumers want, then another developer will. You assume that all developers are on the same side here, which they aren't. The moment EA decides on no-more disc production: a power vacuum will form and many other developers will capitalize on what EA left behind and EA will have nothing to show for it other than a declining market share. We(the market) control the corporations, they don't own us or control us. We can decide which developer falls and which one succeeds. Just like how we can control what is the popular gaming genres of this gen, we can also put EA out of business if we really felt like it. Spore's a great example of what happens when EA tries to **** us over.
demigod developers had something like 180, 000 people playing online with only 44, 000 copies sold. that is no oversight. that is an industry cannabalizing itself. i really feel for all the guys that worked so hard on the game for so many years, only to have to deal with this debacle from the very people who are supposed to support them.
It sucks that Gas Powered Games and Stardock have a tough road ahead of them, but when you have people like EA that try to screw over the consumer, and the consumer is fighting back: can one really ask favors in what is considered war between consumers trying to get as much as possible with little money and businesses trying to make as much money with little effort? All that's worth saying is that Gas Powered Games and Stardock better dig in if they hope to stick around the gaming industry for long. For one thing, I don't see a demo of Demigod yet. I'm wondering what the fuss about Demigod outside of online issues and piracy.
youre right. why punish the guy who actually paid for the game? nothing can be done about piracy. im a firm believer that it will work itself out. if a developer only sells 44,000 copies, and have to keep servers going for three times that much, eventually, the developer isn't going to have enough money to fund their next project. it breaks my heart, b/c i consider pc the best gaming platform out there, but take into consideration the AAA titles upcoming for pc versus console. you can already see the effect piracy is having on the industry. i have bought every game i own. i support the developers i like, and dont buy from the ones i dont. if pirates want to cripple the pc as far as games go, let them do it. that is the only way theyll quit, is when theres no games left to pirate.
I dunno. I do agree that if piracy is left unchecked, then the developers will all leave and there will be nothing to pirate. I'm no fortune teller there. I would like to see that circumstance happen just so I can observe and see how the situation picks up from there. People thought the music piracy was over when Napster got slammed, but up came a power vacuum and many other file sharing clients took its place. And then came Bittorent.
You do realize that developers have preached about the imminent end of games cause of piracy for more than 30 years now? What makes you think this claim is more valid now as it was 30 years ago? At the end of the day good games still sell, and crappy ones don't. And it takes some nerve on the publishers side to whine about warez copies using the online servers. What kind of crappy developer does NOT protect their official servers from fraud copies? Online games have been blocking out non legit clients for AGES, this smells more like one big freaking oversight at the creators hands then some evil piracy conspiracy.
even with piracy 360 games out sell ps3 .
Gaming piracy? I'm still pissed off at the MASSIVE impact the printing press has had on the piracy of literature. I mean, goddamn.
This piracy crap sickens me. I used to understand stealing music... With varying taste it's hard to depend on someone else opinion. But with Project Playlist, out you can listen to that song you want to see if it's worth a purchase. Now if only it became easier to use and I could listen to a whole album through a single click for a limited amt of time to see if it's worth a purchase... Back on the subject of games. This really really sickens me. Games don't have TOURS or concerts that fans can pay for, the developers main source of a profit is through you BUYING the game, other than DLC (horse armor be damned). I really hope that companies like MS (especially with them getting robbed from both ends 360+PC) really crack down on this..
Overrated statistics as usual. Not every pirated copy is a sale lost. Only a small portion of them are. Most of the time the things that are pirated, are merely the things people don't have any money left over for. Not everyone can afford to buy every movie and every game that get's released. A sale that never was, is a sale never lost.
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