PS3 and XBOX 360 Loading times

Which console loads the quickest? You might be suprised to see who waits and who plays! You'll have to watch to find out!

[Robotz Rule]

The Playstation 3 load times are faster and if you disagree you are obviously a Xbox fanboy,just look at oblivion!

Good stuff "ASSASSYN 36o" keep it up!

[ASSASSYN 36o]

I won`t dignify this one with a response.

[SmokeyMcBear]

but uhhh you just did.. and you used you only bubble for it.. good job

[SlippyMadFrog]

It's just proven with this video that Project 8 loads faster, why do you have to be an Xbox fanboy to believe it??? I think you just need to be not visualy impared to believe it. I hate it when people accuse other people of being fanboys whithout a vaild reason. Can you maybe post links to where it says that PS3's load times are faster in general? If you can't then it's only fair and logical to call you a sony fanboy. Actualy DVD's read faster than Blu-Ray and that is a fact. I realy hate people coming on here and posting without thinking and generaly making crazy statements. I now assume that you are 14 years old and only want attention.

[m23]

did robotz even watch the video?

[DeadlyFire]

The video makes perfect sense that the PS3 takes a few seconds longer cause 2x Blu-Ray isn't as fast as 12x DVD which the X360 does indeed have. 2x Blu-ray isn't much slower though. 4x Blu-Ray would blaze past 12x DVD in speed. Games can be optimized to run faster though on the systems.

[marionz]

i found motorstorm takes ages to load, especially when trying to select a car it takes a long time for the image to show up on screen befor you can select the next one
also its painfull waiting for RFOM to load
at the end of the day it doesnt matter because with time developers learn how to make games load faster, like oblivion on ps3 doubleing the data so the blue ray can load it quicker, if they didnt do that it would have loaded slower then the 360 version

[GaMr-]

Yea... I also saw a home video like this one of Gears running on a PS3 !

This is uncredible crap. lol sorry buddy

[Keyser]

That's the bad part about this video, it's one game. Next someone is going to do the same thing with a PS3 game loading faster than the 360 and we'll have this argument all over again.

"Can't we all get along?" is too cliche...

"STFU" is too crude...

"Who cares?" is very appropriate. I have both systems but I'm not going to play them both at the same time. The was like 5 seconds different. If I had bought the game for both systems (which I wouldn't) and played them indepedently I probably wouldn't have noticed that. That video was at the start-up, not even ingame.

I'm certain that the next argument is which console is a deeper black, PS3 or 360. Doesn't effect gaming...

[FordGTGuy]

Blu-Ray takes longer to read the disc and you can install games on the PS3 and you will have faster load times.

Xbox 360 has a faster reading capability and the better compression allows more information to be moved at once. You cannot install games onto the Xbox 360 to make the load times faster.

They are unfair comparisons because of the way you can separately setup each of them and they use a different type of disk drives and both reads the information differently.

[GaMr-]

I dont believe it...all this time I thought you were a biased prick...

Positive feedback from me . Well placed comment.

Cheers !!!

[Eternal E 808]

because were talkin from a hardwear stand point and it seems like the ps3 is slower and to say its not fair is wrong because theres a reason ps3 didnt have a core ps3 is because blu-ray wouldnt make up for its speed, its obvious why sony didnt use a removeable HDD because of blu-ray.

[Blasphemy]

ps3s hdd is removable it tells you in the manual how to remove it to add a bigger hdd.

[kmis87]

The ps3 does have a hardware disadvantage in slower maximum read speed (although it does have faster minimum read speed), but it also has an advantage in harddrive caching.

Besides hardware, there is also a software aspect to which one loads faster, so that needs to also be taken into account. Since THPS8 for the ps3 is basically a port of the 360, it has an immediate disadvantage. Unfortunately, many upcoming games for the ps3 are also mere ports, but ones like Oblivion that are much more adapted to the ps3 hardware do show comparable loading times to their respective 360 versions.

[Eternal E 808]

but the only reason the ps3 version of oblivion is better because the devs had much more time to develop it on the ps3 then they did with the xbox360s.great game none the less

[Nik]

They also have patches for X360 and you don't see X360 version becomes better after patching. Patch is released after PS3 version... patch = dev. time too isn't it?

[hfaze]

Is due to hard disk caching more than anything... That's why Microsoft REALLY needs to drop the 360 Core SKU, drop the price on the 360 Premium, drop the price on the 20GB hard drives, and allow developers to REQUIRE the hard drive for their games..

I thought that was so goofy that ALL of the original Xbox'es had hard drives STOCK... But the 360 comes out with a model that doesn't have a hard drive, and devs are supposed to code their games as if the 360 DOESN'T have a hard drive...

Besides, $99.99 for a 20GB hard drive? Can you say GREED...

[shotty]

What patch for oblivion?....there hasn't been a patch since last year. Also only certain things can be solved by patching.

[DJ]

how fast the data is read off the disc. It also has to do with how fast the data is distributed into system ram/HDD and how fast the CPU can process all that data to set everything up.

[FordGTGuy]

This is one point but I think your going to see the disk drive limit it before the CPU.

[eques judicii]

so dj... i'm confused, typically you support the ps3 almost blindly, but with that statement you kinda say that the xbox 360 may beable to move data around its motherboard faster because it loads tony hawk faster... i'm not saying it does, i'm just a little confused by what you are arguing.

[stingray9191]

srry

[DJ]

Ok, on average the 360 and PS3 have equal data transfer rates from their disc drives. For the 360 it varies between 16Mb/s and 4Mb/s(dual-layer DVD's read at half speed on their second layer). PS3 reads at a constant rate of around 9Mb/s. (approx numbers;correct me about the blu-ray speed if I'm wrong).

With that piece of hardware out of the way, next is system bandwidth, memory pool bandwidth, memory frequency, CPU, FSB, etc.

The final part is dealing with the software itself, processing the code, etc. If the code isn't built properly, expect very long load times. Tony Hawk Project 8 on the PS3 is crap; Call of Duty wasn't bad, but still had issues. You can almost always predict long vs. short load times based on how optimized/skillfully built the code is. Every function takes a certain amount of time to process, and if those functions aren't ordered properly (especially on In-Order Processors like Cell and Xenon) then all the other functions have to wait in line, even with multiple cores.

Play Jak 3, and you'll see for yourself that optimizing code helps combat load times and boosts in-game performance.

[Grown Folks Talk]

millions of people love halo. horrible load times. millions of people play psp games. horrible load times. if the game is good, who cares?

[God of Gaming]

Halo has horrible load times? WTF? For last gen it was spot on as far as load times.

[hfaze]

Halo loaded FAST coming off the hard drive... ;-)

[stingray9191]

Halo and Halo2 had only one load at the very start of the game and then it never loaded again it streamed the rest of the game it was awesome.

[FordGTGuy]

"because were talkin from a hardwear stand point and it seems like the ps3 is slower and to say its not fair is wrong because theres a reason ps3 didnt have a core ps3 is because blu-ray wouldnt make up for its speed, its obvious why sony didnt use a removeable HDD because of blu-ray."

How is it not fair? Your comparing different types of disk drives and different CPU architecture that are only similar by the end result. The point of having a removable HDD isn't to not have one its to beable to upgrade to a better one. Although Microsoft was kinda late to this.

[SmokeyMcBear]

yeah I agree, eternal has no idea what he is talking about

[Bathyj]

We're to compare and argue about load times now? Like any of us has anything that important to do.

I grew up with a Commodore 64 tape deck which sometime would load unless you left the room. If you came back early and it wasn't finished it would sometimes crash and you had to start again. Load"*",8,1

As a consequence of my upbringing I have a sense of perspective about whats important and whats just garbage and because of that I've never complained about loading times in my life since I first got a floppy disk drive for that amazing computer.

PS
The seek times swaping cars in Motorstorm are a little annoying but its a small price to pay for the fun that can be had driving said car.

[Bad_Karma]

Lets compare which system has the brightest power light or ejects a disc the fastest ... lame a$$ comparisons

[Blasphemy]

PS3 will have it's first game with no load screens Ninja Gaiden Sigma. Xbox 360 won't have any games with no load times because the games are compressed to hell and the hdd is not standard.

[Brandon]

the fastest is wii, loading times are close to zero

[grunt360]

erm...I'm not putting the Wii down or anything, but there isn't many files to load

[achira]

ps3 loads fastest. ok there are games in which it take long, for example motorstrom, but the traces are gigantic in motorstrom. till a game like motorstorm does not exist on the xbox360 you cant draw conclusions.

[Ru]

look at all my bubbles!
oh, ummm good article???
Different Games have different loading times.

[SuperSaiyan4]

No wonder the interface looked the same LOL!! The loading times reflect the fact that its just a huge fat obese PSP HAHAHAHA!!!

[Antan]

hahahaha!!!.............nice! Do often laugh at your own comments? oops, best get another bubble.

[Torch]

Ummm...best for whom??? ;)

[grunt360]

I love the that comparison!

[NewfZ]

I'd put my faith in the 360's loading times. Blu-Ray loads at 9mb/s and 360 loads at 16mb/s. When I played Motorstorm it was slow as hell for a next gen game, all 360 games I own load within seconds.

[jay2]

guys, you're taking about 2 different disk media, processor structures, disk formats and speed, devs know how, age of console, if it's full HD or not, any extra content that needs to be loaded, singal or multi format games/ ports. the drive on the ps3s slower BUT blu-rays bigger and holds more content, you can't judge loading times because you're not conparing two of the same types of media or drives.

[FFVIIFan]

I thought both took a long time to load. Other games dont take nearly as long for the PS3 or 360. It really depends on the developer.

[hamburgerhill]

I can't believe how much faster the 360 loads which is hilarious because I thought the PS3 would load faster!

[overrated]

why are all of you having a wank over this? it loads faster great go play it maybe?

to the below
did i offend you? or are you just a window licker?

[ben hates you]

when people post their comment and only have one bubble

[eques judicii]

considering that statement... you too will only have one bubble... ;-)

[Tyrael]

Like initial load times are even really a significant factor in your gaming experience, considering there are more important things to worry about like graphics, gameplay, and in game system performance. As long as it doesnt take like 3 or more minutes, im cool, and this is coming from a 360 enthusiast. Funny though, Sony's systems always did take a little longer to load games

[Says you]

On the XBox 360 loads super fast considering they dont even NewfZ is a moronic dumbass he wouldnt know how fast the DVD on the XBox 360 for crap or the PS3 considering that some of the games on the XBox 360 are so slow and some of the games for PS3 are fast but of course the PS2 DVD's are much even faster than XBox 360 DVD's.

[Torch]

Does any XBoxer here have Fight Night? I'm curious to know how your loading times are.

I have the PS3 version, and as much as I absolutely adore the game itself, the loading times are nothing short of torture. I don't think I've ever played a slower-loading game.

I could swear I've felt rigor mortis creeping into my muscles, as I gaze numbly at the screen, drool running down my chin, while waiting endlessly for a fight to load up.

[made]

Yeah I played FN3 on the xbox360 and thought the same but it was such a good game that after a while I didn't mind the load times.

[Droidbro]

360 is faster than PS3

[grunt360]

It's rather amusing that even though Sony boasts about the Blu-Ray drive and all that processing power; the Xbox 360 still comes out first? It's like the comparisons too- Xbox looks good as or better than the PS3!

[Anego Montoya FTMFW]

Now load the systems up. from being off(ps3 is way faster.)
Put in resistance(everything is skippable.)
get in a match online.(resistance)

and then play Elder scrolls.

and take an audio recording of the systems doing this.

nice try thou.(tony hawk is slow thou)

but tell the truth.

[Boon Tarkas]

And I would still file this one under "Who cares!"

[gta_cb]

blah blah blah, the proff is on the vid, if you dont like it, then phone up Sony and ask them to change the Blue Ray player to DVD :P lol only joking, but seriously Sony choose to use it, its not MS fault you cant admit the PS3 is slower at loading it.

It will become faster though, dont worry :)

[Black Republican]

all this proves is that THIS game loads up fatser on xbox 360 then the PS3

but Oblivion loads up faster on PS3.

does this test alone prove the xbox360 loads up faster then Ps3??
I don't think so.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

You will even deny a video that shows you (FACT) and you spin it by trying to change the subject with Oblivion. You guys are pathetic what do you need Sony to show the comparison before you will believe it and even then I think you would call Sony a liar.
LOL What next you going to argue the sky isn’t blue?

Slow loading times influence the way graphics are drawn on the screen. The slower the speed the longer it takes to load images. And yes it does effect gameplay, if your system can’t draw the screen fast enough you have framerate hiccups and that makes games frustrating to play.

[Schmitty07]

My 360 can load THP8 faster than your PS3! Seriously who gives a crap? Since I have a 360 am I supposed to be proud of that?

[TheMART]

So that's what happens if the HDD trick isn't implemented

BLURAY IS FREAKING SLOW!

What's that a next gen format? Righhttttttt
It's right for games.... rightttttt
It's Sonys push videoformat to ripp you off dudes

This is Waiting!

Waiting for games
Waiting in games

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Truth like this is the reason Sony d!cks attack your bubbles, they just cant face reality anymore and they live in a fantasy world where they believe everything Sony says even the lies. Don’t worry The Mart 11million of us have seen the light and have opened up our windows to let the spring air in and that sweet fresh air smells like the 360, where gaming comes first and movies come second.

[fenderputty]

how many of those American made products that you're buying have components made in China, Japan, <insert random 3rd/2nd/developed world country here>.

[highps3]

Believe what you want but the Ps3 is the one GETTING FULL INSTALLS.. Not you guys..

Ill give you THP8, but i imagine pretty soon this is going to be VERY different. Ninja Gaiden will be one of the more popular ones..

[Contra26]

Atleast be good fanboy....like me...

example..*cough**cough*

All PS3 owners are stupid because they wasted their money with a system that is not proven and has failed in so many areas. PS3 owners should have waited to see what is gonna come up. Instead they settled with a crap system that doesnt have good games...won't have a good online experience... no force feedback... BLU-RAY is pretty useless right now.... Can't play all PS2 games... and IS FAT... cost 600 fat bucks of your mommy's wallet.... Exclusives are going to the 360... developers have a difficult time figuring out the PS3.... No HDMI cable included and its $600... no achievments or anything to prove how well you kill a game.....

and a cherry on the top: Final Fantasy and MGS4 is comming to the 360..fact or fiction.... it is possible..especially with an install base of 10+ million

anyways.
I'm A 360 fan all the way. so you guys can eat what I just said.

[Ps3007]

Ps3 has 40 extra gigs of disc space and loads all of 1 second slower on the worst port on the Ps3?

Ill take it!

[DJ]

On AVERAGE the 360 and PS3 have EQUAL data transfer rates from their respective disc drives. For the 360 it varies between 16Mb/s and 4Mb/s depending on which part of the disc is being read (dual-layer DVD's read at half speed on their second layer). PS3 reads at a constant rate of around 8 or 9Mb/s. (approx numbers;correct me about the blu-ray speed if I'm wrong).

With that piece of hardware out of the way, next is system bandwidth, memory pool bandwidth, memory frequency, CPU, FSB, etc.

The final part is dealing with the software itself, processing the code, etc. If the code isn't built properly, expect very long load times. You could have the best damn processor in the world, but if the code isn't built right, you're f*cked. Tony Hawk Project 8 on the PS3 is crap; Call of Duty wasn't bad, but still had prominent issues. Even Oblivion on the 360 has long load times. You can usually predict long vs. short load times based on how optimized/skillfully built the code is. Every function takes a certain amount of time to process, and if those functions aren't ordered properly (especially on In-Order Processors like Cell and Xenon) then all the other functions have to wait in line, even with multiple cores.

Play Jak 3 and you'll see for yourself that optimizing code helps combat load times and boosts in-game performance. Honestly, I see no reason to compare load times between consoles other than to say "Mine is Better Than Your's!". Instead, compare it to other games on that platform. Load times + Game Performance are dependent on so many factors (including software) that it's hard to pinpoint what's more responsible for that performance. The hardware? The software? Whether you put it on felt vs. carpet? Who gives a sh*t.

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Dealing with OldSchoolGamer: "Assuming the Blu-ray is constantly reading as fast as possible.."

Ok. First off, you already showed how incredibly misinformed you are with that statement, so I'm not going to bother discrediting the rest of your post. That statement only applies to DVD, which has a variable data rate; Blu-ray on the other hand reads at a constant speed. It never drops, nor rises above that speed.

[Takumi86]

IT ALL DEFENDS HOW DEV OPTIMIZED IT WISELY

take GAMECUBE FOR EXAMPLE IT HAS LESS LOADING TIME and some GAMEs don't have load times.

SO IT DEFEND HOW DEV FULLY OPTIMIZED it...

[Havince]

On PS3 is meant 2 be ridiculous for loading

[troylazlow]

How much more do you PS3 fans need before you just say... 'o.k. you win' I mean it's not even a game but really what has the PS3 delivered that it said it would? Thats right Blu-Ray... a format that is only around as another hurdle for movie piraters, I mean really no one needs Blu-ray or HD-DVD for that matter. The 360 may not be the beast of power that the PS3 is but it has games that work, an online sytem that you don't have to vitualy walk through (I have a feeling that will get old fast, but time will tell on that one), it has games, and one more thing... what was it... ummm oh ya the price! I know you guys are mad that you spent all that money and now you trying to justify it but there comes a point where you say ok lets just put this away in the closet with my PSP to gather dust!

[OldSchoolGamer]

Which means faster load times all other things being equal.

Blu-ray 1x: 4.5MBps
12x DVD: 8.2 - 16.5MBps

Blu-ray 2x: 8MBps
12x DVD: 8.2 - 16.5MBps

Assuming the Blu-ray is constantly reading as fast as possible this means the PS3 (which is a 2x Blu-ray player) will read 8 Mbps perfect world scenario, while the 12x DVD in the 360 would worst case scenario drop to 8.2 on certain parts of a double density disk. Utilizing better code or the HDD may speed up a load screen, but as for getting data from a disk source the blu-ray is a little slower.

[Covenant]

Who cares? It's a matter of SECONDS, not minutes or hours. Jeez, some of you should have seen the load times on a Commodore 64 or an Apple 2E. Now THAT was a wait.

This isn't news, it's flame-bait.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Those seconds become minutes and hours during long gaming sessions. Most gamers are hyper active as it is, now your going to make them wait longer? I though we were in next gen not last so what’s the problem with expecting more from your investment. Seconds build up in some games when the difficulty is set on high and every time your character dies you have to sit through loading screens (this sucks) This is one of the reasons why we buy high end gaming machines to reduce these annoyances. 2-6 hours a day on gaming with 20 minutes to an hour on loading screens is unnecessary.

fenderputty below. Pay attention I said games on high difficulties. Dude do you ever play a game on any other difficulty other than normal? Some games have other difficulties you know like easy, normal, hard or insane/legendary. Load times on say insane can be frustrating when you die left and right (hint this is where loading times build up).

I own a Ford and most my thecno gadgets are American made. I havnt replaced all the techo gadgets yet I'm not made of money.

fenderputty again its not about components its about the company that makes it (Microsoft is an American company were as Sony isn’t.)

PS there probably not very companies left in the world that make 100% of there components at home. It’s a global market after all, make it where its cheaper.

[SmokeyMcBear]

wow nice image.. usa usa usa, buy american of course, except cars, and techno gadgets, but other than that buy american

[fenderputty]

Do you know how many games it would take a 2 second lag to equal an hour woth of waiting. Lets be generous and make it 4 seconds just to help your cause out. That's 15 laods to make it a min of extra waiting. Multiply that by 60 and we have 900. That's 900 loads before I've waited an extra hour. You can multiply that by two if it's only a 2 second lag. THAT's an insane amount of loads. What gamer would notice this besies the kid who died on a WOW binge?

Again with your buy american thing ....

How many forign components are in your xbox?

[HaKeRsCanRotINHEL]

PUDDY!

[mbmonk]

" Which console loads the quickest? You might be suprised to see who waits and who plays!"

I wasn't surprised. It was exactly the way EVERYONE thought it would turn out. I don't have a problem with the posting of the video. It's good. But the way you described it was pathetic. I need to find out if I can add you to some ignore list.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

I am not even going to bother commenting on the article.

But...the picture you put up for the article had me laughing my ass off. Priceless!

[DiLeCtioN]

the hottest story is about load time lol what a joke. am tired of these repetitive stories how about gta iv trailer dam.

[Gamer13]

I rather faster load times - an i rather better graphics over faster load times.

Yeh GTA trailer is only 2hrs away.

IM OUT...///"""

[TheMART]

So that makes the score

360 --> 2
PS3 --> 0

360 better loading times & better graphics!
Great

[HaKeRsCanRotINHEL]

in the grand video game scheme of things!? <NO>

[JsonHenry]

Of course the 360 loads faster. The DVD drive has a faster read time than the Blu-Ray drive in the PS3.

And as to the original poster who tried to use Oblivion as an example- Oblivion loads data onto the Hard-Drive of the PS3, that is why load times are faster. Why did they do this? Because the loads times would have been MUCH longer if they had not thrown 3+ gigs of information onto the PS3 Hard-drive.

But hey, at least the PS3 has a Hard-drive to fall back on. Microsoft really screwed up by not allowing for EVERY xbox to have a hard-drive. The lack of Keyboard and Mouse support will come back and bite them in the ass later on too.

[GameJunkieJim]

The 360 has USB keyboard support, I use it often for messaging and on Phantasy Star Universe.

But I agree, the hard drive should have been standard this time around as well, but then it would have cost another $60.

The Core SKU's should be getting phased out though. Once the Elite is rebadged as a premium, the core will probably get the 20GB. (Well, hopefully)

[SKUD]

A complete waste of my time.

[donscrillinger]

things that make you go ummm.

[JIN KAZAMA]

xbox360 core = $299
xbox360 premium = $399
xbox360 Elite = $479
xbox360 120 GB HDD = $179

Listening to all the 360 zombies try to squirm and slime their way to justify this nonsense of 3 SKU's..........priceless.

@Assasyn36o
CHOICE is when you have all 3 SKU's at the same time. Not hitting it up after more than a year. This is not CHOICE, this is a swift kick in the balls.

[ASSASSYN 36o]

Instead you can read if you don`t want to listen. The answer that eludes you to this three sku problem is simple. Being events that are complex seem to hinder ps3 players ability to cope with this issue and move on I have decided to offer a one word explanation that has been repeated over and over. Choice.

[Mighty Boom]

A fan boy fanning the flames of a flamewar....... Priceless

[razer]

But now it's not thanks to MS's own marketing blunders. I think I even used this excuse at one time on a PS3 Fanboy. But not anymore.. When comparing the closest of the consoles the Elite and PS3 base model there is only an $80(fuzzy math sorry) price difference and you get a Blu-Ray player and built-in Wi-Fi. Tack on the Wi-Fi to the elite and it's actually a bit more expensive and you don't get all the media slots that the PS3 offers. Granted the 360 gives you more HDD space but I haven't even filled my 20gig up yet.

[neogeo]

I believe Project 8 is a single layer DVD. If thats true then its the wrong game for this test. YES 360 loads faster on a single layer DVD 12mb per sec. PS3 blueray is 9mb per sec on both layers. unfortunately, duel layer DVD games run much slower on 360's dvd rom. Tony is a perfect game to compare if you work for Mr. Gates because its a 4 gig game. there for, 360 is at its best. Lets try that same test on 50 gig game like MGS4. Oops my bad. that will never happen because that game will require you to change disks between loading screen now won't it?

[JOLLY1]

Why is everyone freaking out over this video. Is it because it is factual? Yes, the 360 is faster than the ps3 for load times in Tony Hawk. Don't get upset, just deal with it.

[razer]

But this seems more like fanboy fodder than anything. Both systems load in a reasonable time. As was stated by others, this is just one game and not necessarily a comparison for all. The DVD on the 360 is faster then the Blu-Ray, but still I could care less just as long as it doesn't take ages. Both are acceptable.

[jerseynets04]

when we watch videos from high quality games like the horseback riding mountain game, we saw laoding times on the 360, and none at all on the ps3...

[Lazyman]

Stop argueing over what loads faster because even thought the 360 loaded faster the extra 5 or so seconds on the ps3 wont kill you or seriously impact your gaming. Also if your decision to buy a system is influenced by loading times then thats just a lame reason, choose something like crappy games or price.

[Slim1945]

Whats the point to this? It's common knowledge that a 12X dvd rom is gonna load quicker than a 2X blu-ray drive, that's why some devs have been experimenting with duplicating code in various points on the disc and other games have put an option to install 2-3-4 gigs of game data on the hard drive.

[Bad_Karma]

Its official .. 360 has longer power cord than PS3 .. ok theres another lame comparison ........NEXT!!!!!

[Whoooop]

Didn't know you could post you own picture on the news.. You have style Assasysn360 i won't deny that.

[Slim1945]

neogeo,

Stop being a retarded fan boy, if M.G.S. ends up being 50gigs it will only be because they duplicated code several times to lower load times + included multi language version or filled the disc with tons of boring pre-rendered crap.

Oblivion is a massive highly detailed epic, many years in the making and guess what it barely goes 4gig. Stop trying to justify blu-ray as a necessary media for gaming.

If people want what PS3 offers they'll buy one, If people want what 360 offers they'll buy that. Your fanboyish attitude will just provoke all the other little fanboys and all we'll get is pages and pages of retarded comments like yours.

[GameJunkieJim]

Menu of one game, let's see what happens with a copy of Dune on HD-DVD and on Blu-Ray, or the actual console start-up time? Or a game that hasn't had 3 months of extra programming to optimize it for a new system?

By the way, is the XBox broken? Mine loads in about 2-4 seconds after selecting "Play Game".

Final flaw in the video - you can't see the controllers he used to start them with, so it is just as likely he started the PS3 2 seconds before the 360. In fact, it's probably more likely considering the base load time of BluRay.

Regardless, the real question is "Who gives a crap?" I play the games I like, from Resistance to Gears, and it doesn't matter a whit what system a game is on as long as the game is good.

The whole mentality of "I don't have that one, so it sucks" is retarded. Misery loves company I guess.

So the 360 reads faster off the disc. Whoopteedoo. The PS3 loads faster off of a hard drive. Yay. Just shut up and play already.

[bootsielon]

...install it in the HDD. How about comparing games installed on PS3 versus games that can't be installed on 360s HDD? That should be good. To all those "leave Oblivion out of the equation", why don't we take a look at Genji, or Virtua Fighter, or Ninja Gaiden Sigma, or many of the games that can take advantage of the HDD? Especially the ones that are cross-platform.

If you just take in account start-up times and not in-game load times, you're an idiot. PS3 Oblivion FTW

[Dragonopolis]

and I don't even own a ps3...

Why am I piss. Because everything in life always comes full circle..

if this happens now it will only happen later for something else (like making xbox 360 look bad). I thought N4G was above this.

There are way to many factors that are not hardware related that make this article/video pointless.

This story should not have gotten this much attention.

[Dogswithguns]

So what just a few seconds slower, bigdeal.... Im sure if the tried more on different games, PS3 might load faster, depends on the games too.

[NewfZ]

So I'm a moronic dumbass for playing both 360 and PS3 games and noticing the 360 was faster. I'm a moronic dumbass for having fact sheets on both drives from both consoles and the fact that the 360's drive loads 7mb/s faster doesn't phase you at all? And finally this video shows two games side by side. I'm sorry but you gotta be one hell of a fanboy to deny it through and through like that and add a little attack in. Grow up kid.

[Strife Lives]

one of the dumbest lamest things I have ever seen.

[jaydesi]

LOL PS3 just got b!tch slapped by the 360!

[itadaku]

Wow its refreshing to see such original and creative arguments from the sony fanbase as they've invented all sorts of imaginative but always specious (look the word up sontoys while you get kleenex for your tears) explanations as to why the PS3 lost by a whole 10 seconds.

On the surface these load times are of little consequence and shouldn't cause any lasting psychological trauma but it does show you the lenghts some fanatics fool themselves as reality chips away at the ps3 dream.

It is a data loading test, same game, two systems and they both share the same outcome so scientifically the only variable is the system itself.
The PS3 lost, even though it demands a hefty price and eventually turned up to the race only a year later it STILL LOST. Tony Hawk is not the most resource hogging game there is so things are looking kinda 'LOADING' for the PS3 users out there

Its no surprising then when KEN whateverface head of Sony staged many PR events months before its Japanese release making sure that people understood the PS3 is a 'complete entertainment solution' not 'games playing machine'. Seems that when your mission statement is flawed your product isn't good at one thing but rather sucks at all of them

Sony needs to stop reminiscing about past glories as the world's market leader and global innovator, stop telling their customers how to think and their business partners what to do they'd see that people use MP3's not MiniDiscs and play games, not movies.

[Shaka2K6]

PS3 loads alot faster specially big games like Oblivion and Blu-ray is faster then dvd duh!

[occamsrazor]

This comparison is essentially pointless, but that's not what upsets me about the article.

I stumbled onto this website a few weeks ago, hoping to find news relating to the launch of the Playstation 3, honest and open opinions on the Xbox360, and general impressions of and experiences with the Wii. Let me start by saying, that I'm by no means new to console gaming, pc gaming or the technical side of things - (I have degrees in both physics and engineering, and I started gaming when you still had to load tapes!) To tell the truth, when I started looking towards the next gen, I wasn't particularly partial to any of the three available consoles. I have since purchased the PS3, and I am extremely happy with it, although that's not what this comment is about.

I was appalled to see how quickly gamers have turned on each other in here. Real gaming news has simply been ignored, and this site has turned into a slagging match over who's console is better.
What I don't understand, is this:
Why is there so much animosity toward each other, and no real introspection of the gamer and his/her part in this industry. Instead, this site is full of downright obnoxious and sometimes ignorant little rants aimed at other peoples consumer choices. Shouldn't this perhaps be a forum aimed at improving the industry overall? After all, I'm sure your feedback means something...

So if you're all really that angry, here's what you should do:

Take it out on Sony, for broken promises, lack of software and long delays...
Take it out on Nintendo for not providing nearly enough stock to meet needs (In the UK anyway), and then simply sitting back and blaming it on the fact that demand is so high. (It's bad business any way you look at it.)
Take it out on Microsoft for manufacturing a console so unreliable that there is now an online debate regarding percentage of failures. (This shouldn't ever be an issue for the consumer to consider, this should've been resolved in QC, long before the machine was released.)

However, if you're not going to do that, at least stop whining at each other. You're creating a stereotype of console gamers that you'll never be able to get away from.

Go and read a book, learn a new language, or learn to play a new musical instrument.
At the very least, go and play your console and have a bit of fun, and be grateful that you're part of this incredible generation.