"What if Sony and Microsoft decide to produce a new generation of consoles that have little or no graphical improvement than the current generations? What if they opt rather to explore new input devices?" -TheGamerAccess.com
thats a good "what if" . i dont know if the console shpae would make a different when its being sold.
they could still keeping making great ps3 games with a massive 50 GB blu ray disc so they could keep improving and a wii- like playstation bcuz ps3 is powerful enough and too much power is just too much ps3 hasnt even been used at full power and the games are unbelievable so frankly im a little scared for my ba11s so they would be able to put to systems out at the same time like they do now with ps2 ps3 would be just like it is now making games for every1 and ps4 could be for casual gamers but ps3 already has all types of gamers with ratchet and clank - god of war so ther would be no point making a casual one right now we jus have to wait but the casual system could be the playstation cloud and if you guys say anything greasy about my comment then Imma Hav To Cut Yo Ba11s Mang
I didn't understand what you said at all! :) I really hope that "wii" don't enter into this type of console future. If so, then we won't be making as much progress as we've seen in the last 3 generations (in terms of innovative gameplay - not just graphics). To make a PS3.5 and an Xbox 540 would be a disservice to not only hardcore gamers but to developers as well.
the PlayStation® 4 , 720, and Nintendo _____, will be shaped by the PS3.
Sony might take a page from Nintendo and introduce a motion device, but I seriously doubt they'd base a new console on old hardware. They've not done it before, and I don't see why they'd do it in the future. The PS3 is the natural evolution for those of us that enjoyed their previous outings, and I seriously doubt they would go the route of Nintendo, which re-releases hardware in new forms. The GBA is basically a portable SNES. The DS is a portable N64. The Wii is basically a GameCube with a motion controller with updated hardware. It's CPU is directly based on the GC, and the ATI Hollywood GPU is also derived from the GC. I seriously doubt that the PS4 will be based on PS3 tech. Maybe the CPU, but that would be the only basis.
this is rediculous everybody knows if the wii was priced high it would of flopped ages ago. imagine if sony or ms put out a shoddy spec system with some controls obviously complimenting the generation technology at a low price i definetly would buy it but wouldnt have high hopes, at the end of the day it would be weak. look how nintendo is killing their gamers with shovelware im not being mean but i hate what they are doing.
If graphics and tech in systems become even more advanced, game prices will rise dangerously high. Just imagine 80 dollar games.
Graphics are fine the way they are. As long as we keep getting great games, I'll be fine =D
How does anyone disagree with this?
The 3d generation starts with the next round of consoles for sure.
sony and ms are graphic's whores. i doubt this will happen. lmaoo
your right, that's why I really think they need to make each system with a RAM slot. Remember when N64 and Saturn had one, this would be a good way to keep the system going after the being graphically outdated.:)
Nintendo has decided to go their own way. MS & Sony continue in the direction they are heading. I sincerely hope that the next iteratrions on consoles from the HD side of gaming do not follow in the trends of Nintendo, although looking at how profitable it has been for Nintendo it would not be suprising if one of those companies heavily pursued in Nintendo's footsteps.
Well I'm sure Sony and MS are more conscious about real gamers than Nintendo. PS3 is already very powerful and I expect the PS4 to be very similar to the PS3 in terms of the arch. Probably new alternative ways to interact with the console will be implemented, but to me is way too early to discuss this, the PS3 has yet to walk a looong walk.
even if it goes PS3.5 and 360.5, they are still "hd" systems.
@sidar That is right. As I see it, both Sony and MS dont need to wait for the next gen to produce casual games or add-ons aimed to the casual market. Look at Singstar, Guitar Hero, Buzz, etc. First of all Sony needs to lower the entry price, and both Sony and MS need to strength their casual games lineup.
I think it's hard to have to eat billion dollar losses with the Xbox and stare down the very real prospect that the 360 might never break even before the end and not take note of the Wii's success. Shane Kim said last year that who knows what the future Xbox would look like. He started talking about some sort of cheaper, digital distribution hub. The thought of a Microsoft Wii sends chills down my spine. The last thing I want as a gamer is another Wii. What I want is balls out HD gaming beast! With reliable hardware. And I want to be able to buy games and sell games that I own, or lend them to friends when I'm done.
It be kinda hard fitting those HDD/ an high power etc added in.
and PC gaming will rise to the top on my list once more.
If the Wii is the "wave" of the future in console gaming I will be very happy going back to my PC for gaming.
God no! JUST NO!
If that happens, i won't be buying one, plain and simple.
Microsoft only knows how to stand back and take other's ideas and try to play them off as their own. Sony may go their own route in terms of the features the PS4 will offer, just like with the PS3.
Do your knees get tired from being on them all the time? Jw.
Your damn mother demands that I eat her out while she is standing. Dumb b*tch! She doesn't consider my feelings at all! ;)
"Sony may go their own route in terms of the features the PS4 will offer, just like with the PS3." Like when they made a half-assed attempt at motion sensing with the SuxAsses? Or when they blatantly ripped off MS achievements? When it comes to this generation Sony and the PS3 have done nothing but trailing behind the competition.
this is hapen: i stick than computer...
what if we start seeing some articles actually worth reading
Why don't you go ahead and write one then?
While the PS4 and next Xbox may have some influence because of the Wii they are also not gonna go completely casual like the Wii has either.
Think the Wii has shown there are plenty of waggle lovers out their. MS and Sony will not pass up all those potential customers next gen. hopefully they come out with brake apart controllers for classic or Wii like controls. Whatever happens motion controllers in some iteration will be in the next systems most likely but will not be as family centric as the Wii is.
because devs just weren't ready for HD/online gaming consoles. This gen was rushed into. The whole mess with Home and Games like Huxley, Alan Wake say as much.
If the next consoles become "teh kiddie" like the Wii then I'm going back to PC gaming. After owning the original versions (fat) of PS1, PS2, PSP, and PS3, if Sony changes their design to be more like the Wii, then they lost a loyal customer.
I hope we don't see Sony going completely casual. I don't see it happening though, since the PSP has sold 50 million consoles, mainly to a core audience. Since I believe the PS3 is still within reach of making Sony another 100+ million for home console sales, I highly doubt Sony will fundamentally change too much. Afterall, the PS2 didn't reach 140+ million units in sales by selling to just the core crowd.
Unfortunately, this has probably got some truth to it. It doesn't matter if it's the 360 or the PS3, we all know development costs for games has been rising and rising as of late, it's getting harder and harder to justify those budgets when there's not that many consoles out there compared to the cheaper, more popular one. I can see Sony and Microsoft aiming for the casual market as a way to both reduce development costs (happy developers is good for them) and get more consoles sold. When your potential market is bigger, it's a lot easier to justify to your publisher that you want to spend $30million on one title.
Yes, it takes way too long to create games nowadays, and it's almost solely due to better hardware (and graphics). FF7 was released in 1997, and in 2001 was FF10 released. 4 of the best games ever imo. Now it's 2009 and still FF13 isn't out. I'd rather have great gameplay than great graphics. Does that make me casual?
"thats a good "what if" . i dont know if the console shape would make a different when its being sold."
I don't think we'll see a huge fundamental difference from the PS4 as a result of the Wii, maybe some more casual games and a new motion sensing controller or a more advanced eyetoy, but that's it. Sony has a electronic division to consider and you can't exactly sell and take advantage of the HDTV division by taking a step back with a less technologically advanced PS4. Sony has never been advertised to the same group as Nintendo to begin with. Even the classic PS1 was advertised to a mature male dominant audience, 18 years old or above with money to spend. About the only thing Sony has in common with Nintendo, is the sales majority for their systems that generally come from the casual market, hence the reason why the PS2 has done so phenomenally well at 140+ million units sold.
the casual market and the hardcore market just as they did with the PS2 and are (hopefully) going to do with the PS3. Sony has been very successful with their market plans for three generations now so I would be really surprised to see them totally change their entire market demographic and focus. All they need to do is add some more casual options to their machine now and in the future and they will do extremely well, in my opinion. If they do that and market their ideas, peripherals, games, and software then the casual market will catch on eventually. They don't need to come out with a "dumbed-down" playstation just to appease some people who will buy one only to use it like once every couple of months. Like the, *ahem*, wii.
While nintendo has always been in the market for games and gaming, nintendo isn't trying to establish the same home theater and entertainment packages that microsoft and sony are trying to accomplish. To do this, MS, and Sony have to upgrade the hardware so that they can sell it to the demographic that is the most interested, the 'hardcore' those that are willing to put the money down on the best and newest. If they pull a wii, they will lose ground in setting up other features that they're trying to sell to the market. PC-Console, video streaming, even blu-ray wouldn't be as large a selling point for the 2 companies if they don't provide hardware that satisfies the increases the hardcore desire.
sony always makes new things everytime they wouldn't go backwards the pst is over wii sells cause of kids want it thats it oh and wii fit :P ok thats it!
... then it's time for me to walk away from gaming altogether!
guessing doesnt work lets wait for ms and sony to announce it lol
If the next generation of consoles follow in the Wii's footsteps, then it looks like PS3 and 360 will be the last systems I get for a while.
yes they can....
A slim $300 ps3.5/4 with 2+ Gigs Ram with improved CPU/GPUs, Playmote and new slick, fast and powerful game OS. Hell yeah. The lesson to be learnt from the Wii is that you don't have to go with expensive revolutionary hardware but only need to improve the current technology and produce a much cheaper - evolutionary - product instead.
this is all hogwash, the new system will not come out in 2010, nor will they come out in 2011, so we havea few years yet before ms or sony decides as to what to do regardelss if they are starting plans on nex gen hardware. Both sony and ms can do many tings becuase of live and psn, they can offer more and more friendlier games on those services rather then having a console built upon the success of the wii. I truly doubt the next gen machines form sony or ms will be nothing more then a simple upgrade with new features. I wouldnt care if they only double the power and removed ailising and tearing issues and then built upon that but in no way will they just rehash the ps3 and ps4 for the next system with a little more ram etc...
One only hopes.
The Wii is a piece of f ü c k i n g C R A P hardware. I will never buy anything that is even remotely close to that junk.
If the next Sony and Microsoft consoles are going to emulate the Wii then I'm going to walk away from consoles and never look back again. I'm a gamer and it has long been obvious to me that the Wii was not marketed to me but is instead enjoying wide appeal among people who are not really gamers and never will be, that's fine, I don't mind that much. The only thing that bothers me about the potential of Sony and Microsoft following the Wii example is that I feel somewhat betrayed for having been a loyal console gamer all of these years only to have companies that built their success on gaming decide that now they are going to turn their backs on me for mass market appeal. We were better off when video games were a niche market. The Wii is selling hand over fist, but it is not selling hand over fist to people who would have bought the NES and SNES back in the day.
We've hit a technological ceiling in regards to resolution (1080p), so just curious, are you expecting the big 3 to support PC resolutions in 2012? Should I start saving up my pennies for a monitor next gen? Am I looking at holographic disks and 2 terabyte HDDs? No offense other than the usual jump in system RAM, there doesn't need to be a massive jump technologically since they're already HD consoles. There's BR drives which are 4x faster than the drive implemented in the PS3 already available. Blu Ray itself is a medium that has expandable storage capacity, so it seems to me it'll be fine for another gen. I'm not even opposed to MS using HD-DVD drives. Just give me a 2-3 gig PS4/X720 at a price tag under $400, and I'll be set. Just give me natively rendered 1080p graphics which don't feature screen tearing on the 720 and frame rate slowdowns on a PS4. Heck, Nintendo just give me a HD console.
then i won't even bother looking at it and just stick with pc and psp wii sucks big time
If so I stay with the PSTriple and PC
lol, yeah right, all that needs to be said.
Aw man, I hope this doesn't come to fruition.
I love it more then my new born baby. Well, almost. Just kidding.
noooooooooooo i prefer the hardcore industry vs the gimmick motion control is. Until i can yield a blade like a ninja, dont make a ninja game with motion control that plays like sh*t
As long as they keep the great graphics and the great games, It's fine by me if the change the shape.
i have a feeling sony will use a more advanced Cell processor and a powerful GPU on their next console. this will save them alot of money next gen. microsoft will probably use similar tech in the 720(similar to 360) but more powerful. if they both decide to add motion controls that's cool. i have a feeling sony and ms will continue to push visuals next gen.
well i'm not sure about the 360 but i know the wii has still yet to be properely utilised, although looking at screenshots of the conduit, it doesn't really even match halo1 imo. Perhaps the next zelda will do that(sometimes i like to imagine a zelda title on the ps3...please don 't flame me :3) ps3 on the other hand ha...well... you ain't seen nothing yet! oh man n4g stuffed up on me i meant this as a reply to the guy who thought that graphics couldn't get better... i mean think about how late god of war came out on the ps2, it still looks better then some games in this current generation imo. i'm going to get disagrees aren't i if you give me one please explain why, i mean the comments are meant for discussing.
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