Reggie Fils-Aime, President of Nintendo of America has said the company does not believe second hand game sales are in the best interest of consumers.
When I go to EB games and see a new title on the used rack for $5 less than a new unopen one. I would rather get the new unopen one. If there was a bigger savings I might think about it but not for 5 bucks.
Used, new...the games play the same, but for a difference of $5, I always buy the new game. Now trading in games...that's a different story. I almost always trade in my used games when I'm finished. The only games I've held onto are Oblivion (360), CallofDuty 4 and WAW (PS3), LBP, Uncharted, Warhawk, Burnout, Killzone2. With so many games coming out, there's always something new and exiting around the corner so a game's gotta be pretty special to go back and play again instead of playing something new. Gears2, Fable2, Halo3, RE:5, Fallout3, these are all great games but I'm not going to play them over and over again. Might as well get some of that money back to put towards something else.
I usually don't buy used games but i trade in games all the time. I wouldn't have played as many games as I have if it wasn't for the used game market. This is mainly for single player games with little replay value. I buy the game new, beat it as soon as possible trade it in early to get the max value for it and move on to the next new game. If the game has longevity then i hold on to it. I haven't gotten rid of COD:4 yet but had to say good by to BF:BC. But both of those have sequels on the way so I see my self getting rid of COD:4.
when you buy a used ps3 game u know it will be clean and scratch free, too bad i can't say the same thing on the other console
used games IMO are much better for older titles that have gone down significantly in price. why would anyone buy a game thats 5-10 dollars under the price of a brand new game. for me gamestop is good for building up my collection of older titles from the ps2/xbox/gamecube days as well as buying older psp/ds titles. as for trading in games....:lol:...yea cuz i want to get rolled by gamestop on my pennies to the dollar trade in value.
Yeah a new game for 60 and a used game for 55 at Gamestop, I go new every time. Unless there's a game I'm looking for, for a reduced price. Reggie says I don't like used games? Nonsense, if it's a reasonable price, and the game is in decent condition, used is fine for me. I have more used PS1 and 2 games than I can count. I generally go for new first, but if it's unavailable or old I just go with used.
Maybe we don't like used games, but that doesn't mean we aren't buying them. Money is pretty tight and not everyone's looking to spend top dollar if they can avoid it, especially for entertainment.
See, that there was your first mistake. But you make an excellent point. This is the first stupid thing I've ever heard Reggie say... I still love him, though.
I play everyday COD4(PS3) since launch and the disk don't have a single scratch, I can't say the same about the case.
I like used games. Back in the days, I always bang out used games. But now that money is rolling in da pocket, I'm taking it for granted, I'm starting to waste money and getting new games all the time. Trust me, sometimes get used games, it saves you some money and some used items are good as new.
Lol that story sounds familiar.
There are TONS of used music stores around Los Angeles, and there were tons when I lived in Phoenix. People don't mind buying used. With used CDs, they are usually at least half off the price of a new CD. The same can't be said for used games. Genesis5, you make a good point. GameStop and EB Games, for instance, really do only discount it 5 bucks for being used. For the extra 5 bucks, why not get the item new. I think Reggie is just hawking their download service as a strong alternative to buying used games. People want value. If buying used is a better value, that's what they want. But to say “We don’t believe used games are in the best interest of the consumer” is horses**t.
I usually prefer NEW games. I only have purchased one "used game" (Metroid Prime Hunters, the game confuses me) and regret buying it. I do trade games though, though when I take it to Play n' Trade, I ususally get 1/6 of the price. I agree with him.
I don't mind used games since I have a ps3, most games I buy don't have any scratches, gotta love bluray
For the most part, I have usually been very careful when buying a game, but when I buy a PS3 game, I know the game will work.
Gotta love that extra scratch protection coating on blu ray discs.
I was hoping someone would bring up this point. Used BluRay = same as new.
amazon and ebay are my favorite places for used games
Used games is the way to go. When I was a PS2 owner not much but since good old blu ray I've really gone all out. I'm saving a ton of money.
If the savings are big,I'll take it used. If not,I'm buying it new.
pffft i get new games for half off :) some russian dude were i lives gets em for free so he sells em to me for like 25-35 beens. Business is good over here in cali.
If I had a choice between new and used for the same price, obviously I'm going to go for the new one. But when you're saying sometimes 50% or more, used tends to win out. Yes, Reggie, people don't like used games, but people dislike £40 price tags even more.
He just wants you to pay full price for Wii Music ;)
I think you made a great point. Its about time for a GAME price drop all across the board. 60$ is way too much, 50$ MAX is more acceptable, but if you want people buy games like nuts, 40 to 45 is the sweet spot. I understand that in the beginning of this HD gen, games were high budget investment, but right now the engines are already out and developers are only tweaking them, while re-using assets from previous games. I like for example how Sony makes multiplayer-only games cheaper for multiplayer fans, but they can go even further, for example, to sell the single-player part for 40$ and the multi as an add-on for another 20$. To me game's price is even more important than console's price. Come on, its not like publishers need to spend a lot of money to make copies of an already released game.
You don't see businesses selling used CDs or DVDs? There are thousands of local music shops that sell used CDs Anyone ever bought a movie from Amazon? Have you ever paid $7 for a Blu Ray, instead of $30? I do it all the time. What about secondspin.com, deepdiscount.com, ebay, amazon, inet.com, I mean, those are only a few that I know of...how many more are there? Those numbers Reggie posted are most likely just from Gamestop. The thing is, used sales are harder to track, so the numbers don't show up as easily, because they in fact are sold from such a staggering number of sources! Not to even mention return policies. Used games are, many times, returnable if the game sucks! New games? Almost never! Reggie, we liked you because you were in touch with gamers.
nintendos software sales are nowhere near what they should be with the amount of consoles they have on the market. less used games on the market means more money for nintendo. jacka*s... how about this reggie, why don't you invest in a MUCH better online system, so your games actually have some replay value. then people will be less likely get rid of their games, thereby shrinking the used market. Sony and MS have figure this out, you can too. oh and get some decent titles too, the "wii fit" gimmicks and such have very little replay value, and most of the people that bought one have stopped using it a long time ago, so you got you original cash from the sale, but no after market value.
Maybe they'll realize they need more games on their console that are worth keeping. There are very few games made by third parties that are worth the full price.
If u allow piracy in your console you are going to have a poorer attach rate Reggie. Seriously. Dont they make enough with the wii console? All they did was change the case the gamecube came in.....
He couldn't just say developers or SONY, N and MS hate used games business. They are very likely to do something baout it sooner or later (digital distribution) because used games hurt their income.
shouldn't be worrying about used games. Now that people are able to download wii games and boot them via the usb slots, piracy on the wii is gonna sky rocket. On topic though, if a game is cheap as hell and got subpar reviews but im interested in it (clive barker's jericho, dark sector) of course im gonna buy it used. Usually i buy games brand new though.
...out of touch with the core gamer, as always.
Yeah games would rather pay full price for a title 3 years after its release. Nintendo has been convicted of price fixing in the EU or somewhere in europe. I remember looking at gamecube game prices at the end of the cycle. It was just insane. That combined with their attitude to developers is y i dont care much for them.
excite truck is still like $50. That was a freaking launch title. Nintendo games never decrease in price
Yet again, Reggie shows that he doesn't know what's going on. Why I like used games: 1. I'm capable of picking up titles that are no longer in production. 2. They often have better guarantees that new games (For example: Gamestop allows you to return a used game up to 7 days for your full cash back). 3. Saving money, is saving money. I buy enough games where the various discounts companies offer are worth it. I also make use of eBay and buy used games from friends. I'm extremely thorough and make sure the copies are receive are in a condition I'm happy with and include all components. If I save $5, that's $5 I can spend on something else. 4. Paying new price for a 4-10 hour game with no replay value is not worth a full price purchase.
Well he would say that wouldn't he? However, as someone who suffers when people downloads music for free I do see his point AND I very rarely buy used and never trade in anything at stores. For one thing it annoys me when you trade in a pretty new game and still don't have enough back from it to buy an older one used. Secondly, I do think it'll impact on us eventually. If they lose enough income through it they'll really go for digital distribution and as someone who still likes to collect vynil and games that's not something I really want to happen. The problem is, and as someone who is really poor due to health right now I do get this, that games are damned expensive new but the stores are also too greedy with the trades/used game prices. I was going to get L4D for 360 (again) the other day but our only shop(Gamestation) didn't have the new one(£40)and tried to sell me a used copy for £37! Even for a PS3 game that I knew would work I wouldn't pay that for a second hand game that I can get way cheaper new online! I asked to see the copy anyway as I was kinda bored and wnted the game but when they got it out it was pretty shoddy and had a few scrathches that I would have thought would make it skip and crash. They put it in their machine that cleans discs but they wouldn't come out and even though I doubt I'd have bought it even for less they wouldn't offer me it cheaper and only said that if it wouldn't work I could bring it back. So, yeah, if the stores weren't quite as greedy I think the second hand "pre owned" game market would hurt the devs and console makers more. The fact is that we get the crappy end of the stick every time and as I won't even play free/pirated PC games or hack my Wii/360/PSP/DS/DSI as I know what it feels like to have income stolen I feel it pretty keenly. Conned for new games and conned for used and conned when we trade anything in. Honestly, I'm not surprised that people take the mick with pirated games and hacks in this environmant but it really only hurts those of us that buy our games honestly(new or used as if you're poor and have kids why would you le them miss out because of it-at least you're paying right?).
Bubbles for being the first to actually see what he had to say
And nobody read the article at all... From the article "reggieReggie Fils-Aime, President of Nintendo of America has said the company does not believe second hand game sales are in the best interest of consumers." And he is right. There is a very big difference in what he actually said and how this article spins it. Used games do not help us gamers in most cases, it only hurts the revenue ofthe company making the game and they are less likely to make a sequel especially if it is a new IP... I know I must be a fanboy for reading the article. Waiting for all the hate to be thrown my way and to be perma banned for going against the N4G user policy and not hating anything related to Nintendo.
a few years ago i could not afford to buy new games. It was used or nothing. If nothing was the only choice i would not be a gamer today paying $60 a pop. i would have occupied my time some other way. if not for used games the audience would shrink. i have played out a lot of games in a single day. I couldn't pay $60 for that then. As far as my indifference towards nintendo...i have legitimate reasons(see other posts)
Nothing wrong with saving. I bought lost odyssey for 14$. And my Battle Field: BC is used. Never had a problem with either of them.
"The consumer likes having a brand-new experience and reliving it over and over again." if you only own a wii you you dont have a choice but to play your stuff over and over and over and over lol no comedian can ever compete with PR spin. It enthralls me.
This is funny. The used or old games I would like to buy can not be found in most stores. It's hard buying old neo geo games and some of the good snes games. Mostly the stuff on the shelves are a year old it seems or either they where not good games. I remember just buying used games just because I was curious, but after a while I just learned to say no LOL.
Most of my games are used. Getting em off ebay means that you get them for a much lower price and the seller sells it at a much higher price than they would have gotten had they gone to Lamestop
Sorry Reggie Fils-Aime, your talking outta your arse. I picked up Fallout 3 for £30 pre-owned, my mates bought it new...£40. That £10 saving allowed me to buy 3 pints and a pack of crisps down my local pub later that day...please explain reggie....why is that not in my best interest hmmmmm!?
I never buy used games after I bought GTA:SA for PS2, it did not work at all, no matter how much less it costs I wont buy used games again...
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