PlayStation Insider's Robin Segitz uses a FLIR camera to do direct comparisons in heat output between the 60GB and 40GB PS3's. The results are quite interesting...
Always wondered about something like this. The images inside are pretty cool and this was a very good read.
My original PS3 gets warm no doubt, it's a 60GB model, but I'm not worried about it overheating. I have a small 9" metal blade fan blowing on it on minimum and it dissipates the warm air around the system quite well. The same fan that I use on my original model 360 that has never overheated on me and has never given me an RROD. Blowing out the warm air and reducing the ambient temps around the systems is a good way to make sure your systems have access to cooler air to reduce the intake air temperature. Just common sense.
Any well designed electronic appliance will evacuate any heat by itself. And sure enough, common sense will tell you that you should not lock your equipment in a cabinet with no air circulation. Dang, I hate the fact that people buy a $200 to $500 console, and run to the next store to buy a fan!!! Are you also buying a external fan for your amplifier, your hdtv, your dvd player, your pc, your pvr, etc, etc?????? C'mon, the original 360 design was bad. They have added a heatsink first, then another heatsink, and now reduced the die. Thanks to them though, now everybody has a fan fetish. I think I will start my own fan company. You have a gaming rig? I have a fan for it. Heck, I think I could even sell a fan for your cell phone, or your mp3 player. C'mon people, you don't need an external fan if an appliance is well designed. Just don't lock them in a very tight place. Their job is to get the heat out, your job is simply to make sure you have normal air circulation around your appliances.
I didn't HAVE to buy a fan, my PS3 vents just fine, but considering that my wall unit is somewhat closed in, there's not a lot of room to vent around the system so I simply have the small fan to increase the rate of air exchange around it. And I didn't run to the store, me and my wife have had the fan for ages, I just found a productive use for it. And if it increases the life of my systems, then so much the better.
Many thanks to PSI's Robin Segitz for putting this one together. I can't wait to see what he's able to come up with next time he busts out the FLIR camera!
Just when you thought a camera of that magnitude is "worthless" someone comes along with a creative outlook. That dude's a keeper, frosty. :)
because my backwards compatible 80GB (upgraded to 250GB) model gets pretty hot.
the different drives definitely play a part on the heat factor which is why its recommended to stay at 5400RPM. I wonder how a 7200RPM HDD would've contributed in this.
Is it the Motortsorm or MGS4 bundle? EDIT: the Motorstorm bundle uses 90nm/90nm config. while the MGS4 uses 65nm/90nm (Cell and RSX respectively).
I used a launch 60GB PS3 and a GT5P bundle 40GB!
^the man himself. many thanks for the awesome article, can't wait to see what you whip up next time!
The 80GB's use the 65nm chips as well IIRC.
my friend's 60gig heats up alot on that upper back... my 40 gig doesn't. i only vertical stand my ps3. it gives it more room to breathe. air can circulate around much better.
This is just useless info. Boring
Not to everyone. This just reassures me that I purchase a durable console. My PS2 has lasted me 8 years, and my launch 60Gb PS3 is poised to beat that duration. The Sony brand is synonymous with quality. Always was, is, and will be. I still have my walkman from the 80s and yes, it still works.
to a 120g 5400rpm SeaGate I can feel the heat coming out of the back for the most. I have it standing vertically and generally keep a fan running near it just in case. Another thing I do is vaccum out all my vents with the suction hose on my vaccum about once or twice a month.
Now let do a 360 models.
...don't get hot, at all. I picked up a Jasper Arcade, because my launch 360 was out of warranty, and it DID get quite warm. The difference in both heat AND noise is astounding; my PC makes MUCH more noise...just being ON.
I got a Jasper and it doesn't get hot at all, and the sound from the DVD drive is almost non existant
I would like them to do this with the cooling solutions you can buy to see if they work
i had a 40 gig which was whisper quiet all the time. it kicked up once when i played uncharted for a few hrs but that was it, it may have kicked up for like a min or less than back to being quiet. i had a cooler for it as well. it fits on the right side if the console is lying down and on the top if it's standing up. it has its own power supply and a heat sensor that kicks those fans on when "needed"- my point it NEVER got hot enough to kick those fans on. like i said it was a 40 not a 60 though. if i had a 60 it may would've kicked them on. that 40 gig man ran quiet as hell and quite cool, with NO assistance (outside fans and such blowing on it) very well made.
there's something wrong in this arcticle: "Already in this image, you can guess where the CELL and RSX processors are sitting. (Hint: Look in the lower right corner.)" He says this about the first image of the first PS3 tested. The only thing sitting there is the power cord and the hardrive. The RSX and CELL are almost actually at the exact center of the console, right above the fan.
If (the one who disagreed) you do not believe me, then open the console for yourself and you'll see. Both processors are over the fan when the console is placed horizontally.
the fact that the fan is spinning on the 40GB at a slower speed than the 60GB means the 40GB is transporting less heat away from the console, and yet maintain the same temperature signature as the 60GB. This means the 40GB produces less heat! Article says: "My 60GB unit's spins up to high speed mode quick and stays that way. The 40GB's fan speed nearly always stays one "notch" lower, making it nearly silent when gaming or watching a movie." The article made it sound like it was baffled at why the heat signature is the same, yet 40GB consumes 40W less power than the 60GB.
I have a 60gb and 40gb ps3. There equal in durability. I wouldn't really worry at all about which version you have. But do what you must I suppose.
sometimes we use our PS3 as a electric heater in my bedroom, it keeps me mighty toasty!
My PS3 and my HDTV put off so much heat that I haven't had to use an actual heater in a long time. Gets a little hot during the day though and I have to open my window and let a breeze come through. Otherwise my PS3 kicks the fan up a notch and my room becomes a sauna.
My 60Gig PS3 does get warm pretty quickly even with plenty of ventilation, but for the most part it's relatively quiet. I've noticed that sometimes the fan on my 60 Gig goes up and down depending on the game I'm playing... sometimes the fan speed goes up as soon as I start up a simple PS1 game and the fan stays at a audible level, and then there's times when it's mostly quiet while playing a PS2 or PS3 game. Whenever I'm in a pretty small room, at times my 60Gig PS3 does make the room a little warmer, because when my 60Gig heats up and the fan kicks up, it does put out a lot of heat in the back.
LOL @ 360
At first I thought those were real, until I saw 800°C ambient temperature^^ Good one :D
"Now let do a 360 models. " we're working on doing all consoles side by side, as well as their various models, but we have to get all that hardware together first. give us time...
"This is just useless info. Boring " The 40GBs are more durable, although the 60's are also pretty rock solid. my first 60gb burned up on me already, though i did leave it on non stop. with the improvements made to the 40gb's cooling system, this wouldn't be as likely. so, for those looking to buy either a used 60gb or a new 40gb and durability is something they are concearned about, this is far from useless info.
and it kicks it into sweat mode while playing games. good to know others put off heat too. I thought it was just me. My sisters 60gb runs alot quieter.
I was hoping my launch day PS3 60GB would last me forever, only to have it get the yellow light of death back in early February this year. Maybe it just overheated, I played it to death. I hope my new 60GB doesn't overheat and go YLOD on me, from looking at those pictures both launch models don't seem to produce much heat.
ylod's can actually be fixed. we're working on a video tutorial to show you how.
Normal body temp is like 38 celcius wtf.
40-55 C are normal operating temperatures for a processor.
my 60, now 320, is cool and quiet
it's a rock solid system, even the 60's.
I got a 750 gig, I mean a 60 gig HWBC PS3. Who would go back?
I loved my 60GB PS3, but sadly it bit the dust. I'm currently working on fixing it though, and have made some progress (no more YLOD, actually boots now). If I were a new ps3 buyer who didn't care much about hwbc, I would probably pick up a 40gb unit just due to the fact that it does deal with heat better.
my old 20gig ps3 would get burning hot! it died a few month ago after i dropped it twice, now use a 40 gig that runs much cooler. also have a 320gig HD at 7200RPM and 16 meh cach. fast installs! i posted this from my PS3
They already tried the 360 versions, but the heat output was too much for the camera.
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