TMNT to Bitch Slap Smash Bros?

Gameplayer writes:

"When you look at TMNT Smash Up the similarities between it and Super Smash Bros Brawl are pretty damned obvious. But just how close are these two worthy fighters in nature? Are Game Arts going to successfully one up the Mario fisticuffs champion? We go behind the scenes with Ubisoft's resident fighting game guru to get a better idea…"

[SlappingOysters]

Super Smash Bros. is a good model to build off, but it cannot be toppled. still some competition will be sweet.

[- Ghost of Sparta -]

This is how new IP's end up failing to live up to the hype, when you compare them to proven franchises like Super Smash, which never disappoint.

Besides, there's nothing cool about the Ninja Turtles. They carry the salmonella virus.

[Elven6]

Correction: There is nothing cool about the NEW Ninja Turtles, the classic ones still kick a$$!

[ThanatosDMC]

They should have a Marvel vs Capcom vs Mortal Kombat vs DC Comics smash game... with fatalities and whatever super moves each character has...

DBZ characters arent allowed since they're too powerful.

[Gun_Senshi]

a "remake" or sequel to that TMNT game. I think it was on snes.

Oh imagine kicking butt online co op mode together!!

[SlappingOysters]

isn't their one on the live arcade?

[xabmol]

TMNT Turtles in Time With updated graphics and 4 player online and ofline co-op.

[Freakwave003]

I loved the TMNT game that they had at the arcade where you and 3 of your friends could play. Great times.

[greenmeanie]

Got it on Xbox live arcade!!! Great game! So classic!

[greenmeanie]

This game will be great. And some people may prefer it to Smash Bros. Does that mean it will be better than Smash bros? Not at all! Unless thats your opinion... But can it be just as fun? Absolutely!!! I love the TMNT! Always have, always will! I think this game is going to be awesome. I cant wait to play it! After a bad stream of turtles games we are getting one that looks promising.

[TheColbertinator]

lol

How is TMNT going to topple the combined fanbases of Mario,Sonic,Snake,Samus,Donkey Kong,Yoshi and several others?

[Jrome]

I wish there was a multiplat game with the same concept of Smash Bros with solid online play. Smash Bros is tooo fun O_O.

If someone made a nice multiplat with the same concept it would be sooo siikkk.

[BlackRaven85]

So basically, it'll be the upgraded version TMNT: Tournament Fighters from the SNES days, that will be cool I guess. Competition is always good among games of the same genre. Just make it good.

[Baka-akaB]

i dont see how , it was a street fighter clone , not a "platform fighting button mashing" smash brawl/powerstone (no disrespect though , as smash is awesome , but while the genre got it's own kind of depth , it's different from a "real" fighting game )

[xabmol]

Hate me all you want, but SSBB was not a good game. Take out all the lovable Nintendo appeal and your left with a button mashed turd. I'll take Virtua Fighter and Soul Calibur over SSBB any day.

I rented it from GameFly and returned it within 2 days. The fact that the new TMNT game is being compared to it lets me know to pass it up.

[Baka-akaB]

actually since i dislike most of those characters from the game , it's the mechanics that appealed to me .
Just because you dont do some so called more complex moves in it , doesnt mean it got less depth ... it's just different .

Ironically Soul calibur is probably as much a button masher and feature even a bit of the same "if you fall you lost" mechanic with the ring out .
I bet you wouldnt play soul calibur without the eye candy and graphics , and if it was done with those nintendo characters instead .

[xabmol]

"actually since i dislike most of those characters from the game , it's the mechanics that appealed to me."

So you like extremely simplistic games. Good for you.

"Just because you dont do some so called more complex moves in it , doesnt mean it got less depth ... it's just different."

Complex moves?! See the lists below. LMAO!! xD

"Ironically Soul calibur is probably as much a button masher and feature even a bit of the same "if you fall you lost" mechanic with the ring out."

VF has ring outs too. And where did I say anything about ring outs? And yes you can button mash with SC, but you can't win against somebody that actually knows how to play.

"I bet you wouldnt play soul calibur without the eye candy and graphics, and if it was done with those nintendo characters instead."

Oh? You bet? Well, I bet the only console you parents got you for Christmas was the Wii. I haven't even played SC4 yet. Also SC2 and VF4 are still better than SSBB.

VF
http://koti.mbnet.fi/~jplau...

SoulCalibur
http://cloonix.ath.cx/sc4/i...

SSBB
http://guides.ign.com/guide...
Only 20-25 moves per character LOL

[Lizam]

You actually believe that a button masher can easily defeat a somewhat good player in brawl? Get your facts right before posting such an ignorant comment...

[Baka-akaB]

Firt starters parents attack really ? And "they bought you a wii" , i'm supposed to to feel offended with that and there ? Well yeah my work paid me all 3 consoles so far , and if my parents could afford me those , you bet i'd take it guilt free .

You played brawl 2 days that tells me everything i need to know . you wont know everything about brawl in 2 days . hell you didnt even unlock most of the game then ...
And you dont even play SC it seems so wth with that misplaced game pride ? That alone show how arrogant you are . I wouldnt pretend i've seen everything there is to see about a fighting game i dont like , in just two days , you can't do that for any fighting game period . I'd just say i dont enjoy it .

SC is a button masher indeed , and i love it being that as you so eloquently said i love "extremely simplistic games" lol .
I research no VF or SF depth in SC because i known damn well it's not there , not it's purpose . And it's fine that way .

Having been in actual tourneys , while i'm far from one of the best , i feel and can vouch that a chun of some if not every characters movelist isnt even used or efficient enough to begin with . Besides some gallery to impress , why would an Asuka player bother with some of the cumbersome moves , when the combos and moves that actually works are quite simple ? We just spam the good stuff ... what makes the different is placement and timing .. strategy .

And those rules are present in some other fighting games and got nothing to do with how hard it is to do a shoryuken ...

Take a look at street fighter 4's movelist , aside from Gen and thats because he got a stance , no character got a page full of moves with the same input , forward quarter circle , double quart circle forward or backward , ou charge moves . Does that make SC4 more complex than street 4 ? of course not that would be ridiculous .

Or will you tell me too that since tekken mostly got moves that are a direction+buttons , SC4 is more complex ? OF course not ...

SF4's system relies heavily on your strategie , and on timing for move placement , counters etc ..

Sc is basically as broken as most anime fighting games like naruto , and might not have more depth than a narutimate on ps2 or ps3 (or psp bleach game) .

So yeah SSMB smash bros can easily hold it's ground , in the face of a "pompous broken beyond relief game with mostly eye candy" .
Funny thing is you make me harsh there with SC , but again i like it , just for what it is . it qualities lies elsewhere and it's fun to play with weapons .

Besides kiddo , weither i'm wrong or not , at least have the decency of playing one the games , if you're planning or arguing about their core mechanics ... and if possible , not just with your sister

PS : Out of curiosity why are you even feeding me VF ? i'm talking about SC , so dont pretend you didnt notice that .

[xabmol]

You call it, "mostly eye candy" and say, "I bet you wouldnt play soul calibur without the eye candy and graphics"

SC2 and SSBB have about the same graphics, yet SC2 is still a better fighting game.

And no I never played #4, I played #2. So your, "And you dont even play SC it seems so wth with that misplaced game pride?" is a bit off.

"You played brawl 2 days that tells me everything i need to know."

What does this game have a 3 day learning curve? Does it magically get better at 12am on the 3rd day?

"Sc is basically as broken as most anime fighting games like naruto , and might not have more depth than a narutimate on ps2 or ps3 (or psp bleach game)."

No. Wake up sir.

"Having been in actual tourneys"

Oh? Tourneys? Lets take a look at Evo 2009. Shall we?

* Street Fighter 4 (PS3)
* Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo, HD Remix (PS3)
* Soul Calibur 4 (PS3)
* Marvel vs Capcom 2 (TBA)
* Street Fighter 3, Third Strike (PS2)
* Guilty Gear XX: Accent Core (PS2)
* EXHIBITION: Tatsunoko vs. Capcom Invitational Tournament (Nintendo Wii)
* EXHIBITION: SSF2T HD Remix, Regional 5on5 Team Tournament (PS3)

Strange... Where is SSBB? I can see SC4. It must be a typo, right?

P.S.
A game of checkers played on only 4 squares can never compare the having all the options of a full board.

25 Moves per char VS. 130 Moves per char

[Lizam]

"What does this game have a 3 day learning curve? Does it magically get better at 12am on the 3rd day?"

Obviously it only takes a couple of hours to get used to the controls and the basic mechanics to get you through the story of the game, but I thought we were talking about games on a competitive level?
In that case, 2 days of brawl would get you no where.

"25 Moves per char VS. 130 Moves per char "
Now you're just limiting your understanding on the depth of a fighter.

Soul Caliber plays completely different to smash bros, In where both opponents are locked onto each other while they fight. So of course there going to have a lot more moves to spice up the depth of the gameplay.

However, in smash bros, you have full control over your character along with more control in horizontal/vertical movement and aerial combat. Thus, spacing and mindgames are more in focus.

Just because it has less moves per character, doesn't mean the overall game has less depth...
In terms of Soul Caliber and Brawl's moveset, it's incomparable.

Both styles of gameplay are still great in there own ways. However, saying Smash bros is too simplistic is just plain ignorant.

[Microsoft Xbox 360]

Super Smash Brow Brawl for the Wii had so much potential to be GOTY. It was my first game I bought on DAY ONE for 2008. The game itself is badass but what made me so sad about the game was the online component. It was a complete mess and almost impossible to play even one match. Just wishful thinking here, but if SSBB was one PS3/360, it would have been a dream come true. The ULTIMATE 2D/3D fighter.

[TriforceLightning]

Whoever says TMNT will dethrone the king SSBB is definitely dreaming.

[hatchimatchi]

lets wait for the game to come out before we start slamming it and saying brawl is the greatest.