GDC 09: Crytek Talks CryENGINE 3

President and CEO Cevat Yerli on the new engine, the next generation of games, and OnLive.

[THC CELL]

for Jack who

the PS3 will run slightly better here, it'll look and feel probably the same, but the engine is diverting computation needs to power subsystems available to the PS3, and the 360 differently, and PC differently."

[chaosatom]

The war is over! ps3 wins in everyway!

[- Ghost of Sparta -]

Oh man the 360 fantards are crying AGAIN!

[Montrealien]

(But i have a feeling X360 will be fully finished by PS3 this year atleast in europe and japan)

yeah, cause you know what you are talking abou right Nasim? lol

I predict that 2 years form now the PS3 and the 360 will be doing fine and all gamers will benefit from the competition.

[commodore64]

@THC cell

yeah... what a way to take a quote out of context. Kinda childish, bud.
But you may believe whatever makes you sleep better at night.

I will wait for independent comparisons, and direct analysis quotes.

Perhaps you should too, before you make a fool of yourself again?

[Antan]

"The CE3 runs currently at more or less the same quality bar. I say more or less because the engine still optimizes itself to power of the platforms' intrinsics. So the PS3 will run slightly better here"

As i said earlier, and straight from Cryteks mouth.

I think the SPU`s will really help, especially with the physics calculations, and no doubt backface culling and other gfx related tasks.

I wonder if POG?WHY DIS will continue with his/her one man/woman crusade?

EDIT-:

"I think he means the PS3 will run better than it has on previous multi-platform engines."

Oh dear.................Tell me you don`t believe what you`ve just written?

[chaosatom]

will have the better graphics.

I knew that those SPEs will work their magic for developers.

[morganfell]

I said the same thing when this was announced earlier because I had already had a glance at the optimization specs.

[ssj]

I think he means the PS3 will run better than it has on multi-platform engines in the past.

[- Ghost of Sparta -]

@ SSJ: I was in tears after reading your post. You really just don't know when to stop do you? Even after we get a huge confirmation like this you try to spin it? The PS3 runs it better and that's a fact, it's no longer an opinion or a rumor.

[Xi]

He means the strengths of what is being displayed. For example a scene with a lot of physics calculations might run better on the ps3 than compared to the 360 while a scene where a lot of data structures are required may run better on the 360 then the ps3.

Way to take it out of context. Here's the full quote:

-Yerli went on to describe how the engine is being built to perform across platforms. "The CE3 runs currently at more or less the same quality bar. I say more or less because the engine still optimizes itself to power of the platforms' intrinsics. So the PS3 will run slightly better here, it'll look and feel probably the same, but the engine is diverting computation needs to power subsystems available to the PS3, and the 360 differently, and PC differently."-

You are saying that ce3 will run better on the ps3 then the pc too?

Please read it again, it says that the engine is optomized for each console. What the 360 does better then the ps3 it will look better, what the ps3 does better will look better than what the 360 does, whether that's a large difference or not will be determined by the way good developers take advantage of each console.

I'm still waiting for a disagree to post a rational argument as to why I'm wrong. All Antan did was data mine a quote, and use it to spin his this article in his favor. Why would Cevat say "more or less the same" then say the ps3 was better? those two phrases are contradictory. Why would he say the ps3 version is better then pc version? It doesn't make sense in the context that Antan used.

[DaTruth]

For the inevitable "multiplats lookz better on teh 360" arguments that come after PS3 blows our minds with yet another exclusive that can't be done on the 360.

[Why dis]

The demo looked better on the 360, was somebody talking about something else?

Cherrypicking anything you can find will not change the fact the 360 version of the demo looks better nor will it change the fact many games look better on the 360 the fight has never been about what console can make a tree fall down a hill better lol.

You pwned yourself as always. you get so emotional about it.

Nasim you use your master account to attack me?

Wouldn't expect them to say anything other than what he did, it would be suicide not to. All devs do it now like RockStar/Capcom etc to sell their games.

Damaging PS3 fanboy egos would kill future relationships with Sony and fans. We see with our eyes what the truth is and the actions. They showed more footage of the 360 version of the tech demo for a reason and it showed the PS3 seemingly a build behind/limit? in some cases.

[BrunoM]

what have these man just done they the ones making the damn thing have just said the ps3 will run it beater ooo noooo..

how can a fan boy fight it

"360 fanboy" - but the guy dosent know what his talking about becasue if u do - insurt here most stupid idea - the game will run alot beater on 360 than on ps3 ...

my point with these is we all know the ps3 can run beater than the 360 we is there people that fight it ? but any ways i wounder what are the first games to use these on the 360 and ps3 ..

EDIT: @Why dis why do yyou do thouse kinda things man the guy making the engine just said it run beater on ps3 i dont get it man ...

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

Why Dis...

No...it didn't.

Why are you still doing this? I thought you would've grown out of this by now.

[BrunoM]

evem wit the guys that make it saying here u can read what HE said.

"Yerli went on to describe how the engine is being built to perform across platforms. "The CE3 runs currently at more or less the same quality bar. I say more or less because the engine still optimizes itself to power of the platforms' intrinsics. So the PS3 will run slightly better here, it'll look and feel probably the same, but the engine is diverting computation needs to power subsystems available to the PS3, and the 360 differently, and PC differently." "

why do people fight it ... and but what ever not here for fight here for news and new stuff just wanted to point it out i dont get fanboys man i really dont ...

but hey what ever make u happy u need cy3 ps3 guys got kz2 sp you know u can wait other can play theres no wai to fight there but hey have fun man im off to look for more news .

EDIT: LOL you guys toke a bubble away from me because lol.. Why dis is sad to be a fanboy but no need to take bubbles from others but w.e ... i dissage with your coment but didnt take nothing from you o well .. what ever makes u fan boys happy..

[Antan]

"Nasim you use your master account to attack me?"

Still clutching at straws i see. Like ive told you before, what you see is what you get. Im just a one man band, and to the people who know me.....yes, pun intended 8).

"You pwned yourself as always"

Is this aimed at me or yourself?

"you get so emotional about it"

Says the guy getting all emotional about it.

[CaseyRyback_CPO]

wake me up when you guys can actually play some games. Because so will the rest of us, lol.. multiplatform engine.

Quick whydis, pull out your electron microscope so you can get some sleep tonight!!

[Why dis]

PS3 version of the tech demo had missing effects like lighting/shadows

Mist/Fog lol.

They didn't even show PS3 gameplay footage of the jungle(only 360) only both version of environmental camera pan footage.
Until they do your cherrypicked publicity stunts and rabid attacks are null

[- Ghost of Sparta -]

The 360 version of Crysis is going to need 3 dual-layered DVD's while still being inferior in comparison to the one dual-layered Blu-ray disc version on PS3. If a tech demo can't even run properly on 360 then how's the game going to be? Answer: Better on PS3, confirmed by Crytek. Hail.

Oh and "Why dis", you aren't convincing anyone. You've been banned so many times already that you're down to just 2 bubbles. Just stop.

[CaseyRyback_CPO]

Anytime you think a 360 game is superior to a pS3 one. Load up Killzone2,MGS4,Motorstorm2,Unc harted1,Gran Turismo

Hell even warhawk at this point, Flower isn't even possible on the 360.

"BUH buh buh this tech demo will show the true powah of the 360!"

I thought that was supposed to be Gears1.5? You guys all abandoned that when it turned out looking like the previous version. Then it was Race Pro, then it was ninja blade. keeps changing every day. You cant play any games as of today that look better than any of the titles I've mentioned.

Keep grasping onto your .mov files, im sure those are a riot to play!!

If you want to argue graphics, its a losing battle for the 360. And even further proof of this is all the 360 lurkers coming out of the woodwork to pretend this Crytek engine is something to behold as if it will be some sort of 360 exclusive, lol. Stick to sales and Banjo Kazzoie guys.

[Antan]

"PS3 version of the tech demo had missing effects like lighting/shadows

Mist/Fog lol.

They didn't even show PS3 gameplay footage of the jungle(only 360) only both version of environmental camera pan footage.
Until they do your cherrypicked publicity stunts and rabid attacks are null"

Are you STILL crying and getting all emotional?

"Oh and "Why dis", you aren't convincing anyone. You've been banned so many times already that you're down to just 2 bubbles. Just stop."

Fear not, "POG" or "I did not murder him" will arrive as backup soon.

[snaz27]

the tech demo looked nice on both consoles but then it is just a tech demo and it didnt really do anything special in terms of action on screen... when you look at killzone 2 with like 300+ lights and partical effects and explosions going off all over the place its a different thing... none of us can say anything about the way its gonna look when we actually get a finished game withh all the said action etc.. what i did like is the destructability which i wanna see in more games.. theres nothing like blowing up a building or smashing a wall down etc.. but one thing is for certain and thats only because the creator has said it himself that the ps3 will look better... did he say oh but the 360 will look better at certain points? no he didnt but you 360 fans wanna spin it to seem that way! its really daft you have just gotta accept the ps3 is better graphically and the multiplat argument is just daft!.. 360 has been out 3 years yet the ps3 thats been out for 2 years has passed it graphically already!.......

[snaz27]

..... doesnt that tell you something? even when you hear it from a guy thats making the engine you still dont wanna believe it! and the proof has been there before he even said anything! killzone 2 proves its got better graphics capabilities and you can say oh but this game will come out or that game will come out but till it does you just have to except whats here and now!... thats not to say 360 fans cant be happy with their purchase thats cool but they really have gotta stop clutching at straws as far as graphics goes cos the proof is in the puddin as they say... anyway its looking like were all gonna have some great games coming out which is excellent for all of us 360 and ps3 alike

[Montrealien]

Bottom line is that is wont run better then on my quad core with 4 gigs of ram and 2x 9800 gtx 512mb video cards.

However it seems to be shaping up great for console owners who dont have a monster PC, and I'm sure it will run slightly better on the PS3 since it is a more powerful machine. But it wont be very noticible and owners of both consoles will be able benefit of what is looking like great engine.

And snaz27 the only people clutching at straws are the delusional ones in both camps of this stupid console war. All the real gamers are enjoying games they like on the consoles they have.

[snaz27]

but dude what about people that dont like pc gaming? there is soooo much hassle with pcs i just cant be doing with it to be honest and the money you have to spend is rediculus.. then they bring out some game a few years down the line that your pc cant run its never ending... but my comment was aimed at the 360 fans thats always come in going ahhhh but this and ahhhh but that... if they didnt would i comment on the graphics being better on ps3? no!... and i come on here to learn news (when there is any) and to just chill out when im done gaming for the night... i mean isnt your comment to me kinda like what ive said to the 360 fans? and its not like i attacked anyone but even you yourself has said the ps3 is more powerful so whats the difference with me saying it? lol... i dont care about any console war as if you read the end bit of my second comment i said both consoles are gonna get great games... also even in my first comment i said the tech demo looked great on both! so how am i any part of a console war?

[XboxOZ360]

Try reading and quoting the WHOLE paragraph rather than what you want to exploit.

Yes, he does say that certain segments of the engine will work better on the PS3, but it is designed to utilize each platforms intrinsic qualities and all will basically look the same . .

""The CE3 runs currently at more or less the same quality bar. I say more or less because the engine still optimizes itself to power of the platforms' intrinsics. So the PS3 will run slightly better here, **it'll look and feel probably the same, but the engine is diverting computation needs to power subsystems available to the PS3, and the 360 differently, and PC differently.**"

Just have to love Sony Doids, they'll grab at anything to prove their platform is better than anything else in the world,even PC's . . Give me a break - please.

The PC will hose the PS3 without a worry, the difference between the PS3 and the 360 will be marginal at best, and all platform users will get an excellent game engine that optimizes its self for each platform uniquely . . so grow up . . . btw, how old did you say you were . . 10?

Again read the ENTIRE interview rather the small portion you see the words PS3 mentioned. You might just learn something.

[snaz27]

xboxoz360.. look at the end of the day he said it will look better on the ps3 did i say by what margain? no... did i say or even insinuate that the ps3 is better then a pc? infact did anyone on this post? no!... i said there is hassle asociated with the pc cos well there is!.. im a ps3 droid but look at your username lol... and i dont need to jump on any tech demo cos like i said the ps3 already has games that surpass the xbox360 in graphics that is a fact... does that mean that you cant enjoy your 360? no it doesnt as ive already said... it just gets me cos i hear this crap from 360 fans all the time! i only comment on it when i see them coming out with this argument but they dont have any games to prove it so its kinda stupid to argue it dont you think? if a game comes out that looks better than all ps3 games on the 360 i will be the first to say it does ok

[25]

sony doids? i can't take you seriously with the xbox360 in your user name. also, the graphical difference is marginal at best? yeah, that didn't stop the xbox fanboys from parading on from earlier multiplatform games. were you "level headed" then?

[CrippleH]

Classic spin.

These people be better off as politicians.

[Montrealien]

snaz27 said..

(but dude what about people that dont like pc gaming? there is soooo much hassle with pcs i just cant be doing with it to be honest and the money you have to spend is rediculus.. then they bring out some game a few years down the line that your pc cant run its never ending...)

that has nothing to do with what I said about the cryengine 3.

and I repeat.

The only people clutching at straws are the delusional ones in both camps of this stupid console war. All the real gamers are enjoying games they like on the consoles they have.

If you dont concider yourself part of any of the camps, you have no reason to spaz, snaz.

[snaz27]

it doesnt have anything to do with what you said?? dont know why im using my last message to reply to that but hell why not... erm half of your message was talking about your pc mate! so how is me commenting on pcs not got anything to do with what you said? if you had never mentioned pcs then ok i would be crazy to say what i said obviously and then you would have been valid to say it has nothing to do with what you said! lol.. give it a rest mate ive seen you in the open zone too playing devils advocat (or trying to) and trying to lord over people with your "just play the games!"... but you still feel the need to comment at me and other people directly which is just as bad and if im part of some console war then my friend you are too! the fact thats all you had to say is quite astounding! it had nothing to do with what you said???? im still scratching my brain at that one mate are you serious or what? lol anyway last message so take care now yeah

[Montrealien]

A copy of my comment...

(1.19 -
Bottom line is that is wont run better then on my quad core with 4 gigs of ram and 2x 9800 gtx 512mb video cards.

However it seems to be shaping up great for console owners who dont have a monster PC, and I'm sure it will run slightly better on the PS3 since it is a more powerful machine. But it wont be very noticible and owners of both consoles will be able benefit of what is looking like great engine.

And snaz27 the only people clutching at straws are the delusional ones in both camps of this stupid console war. All the real gamers are enjoying games they like on the consoles they have.)

I see one phrase that mentions the fact that even if it plays better on the PS3 it wont play better then on my PC. Notice the second paragraph? yeah, you know, then one you decided not to remember.

and I repeat...once again...

The only people clutching at straws are the delusional ones in both camps of this stupid console war. All the real gamers are enjoying games they like on the consoles they have.

If you dont concider yourself part of any of the camps, you have no reason to spaz, snaz.

and welcome to N4G, you'll get a hang of it with time.

[BIOSHOT]

do you need more prufe 360 owners

[pwnsause]

this flamewar is about to EXPLODE...FIGHT!

[Omega4]

Considering the engine surpasses anything currently seen on consoles thus far does it really matter that it runs 'slightly' better on the slightly more powerful console? No

Infact if it didnt run better on the PS3 it would kinda worrying, but its good to know the the 360 is capable of SO much more from whats been seen so far

[BaSeBaLlKiD721]

whatever helps you to sleep at night better... we all understand

[- Ghost of Sparta -]

Some people just don't know when to stop spinning.

[swiftshot93]

dont take away his bubbles, its just so damn hilarious seeing him spin stuff as much as he does. LMAO

[Montrealien]

What is funnier, the crazy spins he can pull off? or the ones that actually get mad at his comments? I vote both!

[Sukebe_Gamer]

i'm really glad that i purchased a ps3. it truly is a magnificent machine. i just can't believe that it's taken this long for people to realize its potential.

[Zeus Lee]

After seeing the still shots from Eurogamer,it quickly became apparent that the Ps3 is running CryEngine 3 better than the 360.I think the reason they showed more of the Engine running on the 360 was to quell any doubts/rumors that the Engine wouldn't be able to run well on the slightly outdated platform.

Of course the PC will always have much better graphics when it comes to Cryteks stuff,so at the end of the day it really doesn't matter which console version looks best.

[Zeus Lee]

By ''Multi-platform engines'' you're referring to some of the 3rd party developers inability to get the Unreal Engine to run b-e-s-t on Ps3,right?

[pwnsause]

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Bumpmapping]

HAHA

[ChozenWoan]

Now you got that stupid song stuck in my head.... round and round... now I'm getting dizzy.

[THC CELL]

jack ooooh jack u was saying
whos crying now

[Montrealien]

(PS3 is like 10x more powerful than X360)

man, your lack of knowledge never ceases to amaze me. Go google a ps3 story to submit, you're not good for anything else.

[xbollox]

right after that painful killzownage: ouch!

[Sir Ken_Kutaragi]

'CryingBucketsENGINE 3' ONLY on xBox 360 ;-D

+ There was a bit in KZ2 that i just played that made me go WOW!!!
+ i died because i was just standing there looking at it!!! ;-D
It was someone firing a gun in a dark corner and the Lighting on the walls and that were F-IN AMAZING!!! ;-P
+ Loads of other bits are AMAZING to!!!;)

I just want another PS3 game to use the 'KillZoneENGINE 2'!!! ;-P ;-P ;-P

[xbollox]

killzone 2 is so addictive and freakin gorgeous
funny, i got killed many times for looking at the scenery too :)

[IQUITN4G]

Oh dear that means it will all look like sh!t on 360 then

People outside of sites like this don't give a f&ck about stuff like this and certainly wont moan when they play a 360 game that uses the engine

PS3 is a better machine at raw performance, but so what if games on 360 are as perfectly lush as the new engine shows them to be

I very much doubt people will cry when they play a 360 game using this tech if again we're talking about the majority of gamers ie not on sites like this

Lol why would anyone want to disagree, N4G is a daily laugh

[ChozenWoan]

I see this as a win win situation. Now 3d party devs have no excuse not to deliver the goods on any system... Wii being the exception but it can't be helped. This also frees Devs up to focus on games and not tech demos. So more games are a coming... Yeaaaaaa!!!!!

[XDF]

Now that is what I call night and day when comparing Multiplatform games. Well it is expected, the xbox came out a year later, has better specs, and cost more, of course the games should be better.

Now Ps3 came out a year later, has (in theory) better specs, and of course cost way more, it should be eating the x360 alive for multiplatform games right?

Well go check out the 20 or so rounds of Eurogamer and you'll see the truth.

But..But the developers are lazy.....BS. Yea the developers were lazy too last generation when the majority of Third party games were lead on PS2 and the xbox version destroyed the PS2 version of the same game.

[IQUITN4G]

Wow some of you need to take more care spelling

Funny though

[IQUITN4G]

Yup good all round

[LTC]

The 360 version had popins in the leaves and shadows and also lacked detail and looked blurry. The ps3 version had a far superior draw distance. Bots should really take there fanboy glasses off. Still it deosnt look as good as KZ2 though.

[IQUITN4G]

Not every way chaosstorm, 360 has more a crispness to visuals - don't do the fanboy sh!t i think PS3 is a better machine in a number of ways

360 can't pump out excessive particles and other insane effects for example like PS3 can so easily do, but it does have a better more sharp image which is really a rather nice in comparison

[LTC]

Would u kindly explain why PS3 version of CE3 has sharper more crisper textures than the 360 version and why the 360 version looks blurry?

[IQUITN4G]

Every game for 360 generally speaking has more clarity to it's visuals

Couldn't give a sh1t what machine is better and i'm not getting into childish argument here, 360 outputs slightly clearer visuals generally

You only have to look at the likes of Grid or Bisoshock on both machines see this difference

But hey have it your way, you know best

[LTC]

I certainly do thats why I have a PS3

[IQUITN4G]

Lol

[GlowingPotato]

OMG...i hate fanboys so much.

[II Necroplasm II]

They have ran off most gamers in 90% of the comment section. So now we have to read all the fanboy spins.

[Shadow Man]

*goes back to play the superior version of Resident Evil 5 on his 360*

[1 HiT KiLLZ]

Hahaha what ever helps you sleep better f*#got LMFAO

"bu bu but" STFU

[pwnsause]

Damage control Much shadow man?

[XDF]

You know when the AI, physics, textures, enemies of screen, netcode, and the full game comes out first before proclaiming a Tech Demo win.

For all I know, the PS3 is always about cool tech demos but when the final product hits..it is always be a step or two behind the x360 in multiplatform games.

Disagree?? Just look at the 20 or so rounds of a$$ whipping the PS3 has taken at Eurogamer and see for yourself. It is sad and embarrassing when a suppose more advanced machine is getting its tales whipped rounds after rounds after rounds.
LMFAO at the Sony worshippers.

[CrippleH]

Crytek guys already said PS3 will run the engine smoother and you still say that.

Fanboy insulting other man it's written all over you with those comments.

LMAO.

[XDF]

Yea Slightly better on a TECH DEMO! I wasn't aware a full game was out with this engine.

Slightly Smoother, gotcha. Now backi to the smoother ports of RE5, Fallout 3 with The Pitt DLC, and the New Lengend of Wrestlemania.

Wake me up when Fall Cry 3 is released so we can do a comparison.