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Sony's Momentum could Steamroll the Xbox 360

Quentyn from AnalogHype writes: "With the recent announcement of even more titles heading to the Playstation 3 in 2009, Sony's picking up a great deal of momentum. In reference to this article's title, I think of it as a steamroll: It gets off to a very slow start, begins to pick up speed and gain momentum, and if you're not careful, you could find yourself crushed in a matter of seconds. Of course that all sounds overly dramatic as far as actual market translation goes, but it very well could happen. If Sony keeps up the great exclusive releases, drops the price of the console, and advertises like there's no tomorrow, I believe the Xbox 360 could be facing some actual competition from them for once. More at the jump."

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meepmoopmeep5318d ago (Edited 5318d ago )

that's just how Sony rolls

get it? rolls? ahahahhaha
ok, nvm, goodbye

:)

Aquanox5318d ago (Edited 5318d ago )

New original IPs are always good and I applaud Sony for that.

Now... from that to call "accidentally revealed" games a momentum is quite too big of an step.

Momentum will come with good games with confirmed dates and a price-drop... not before.

TheTwelve5318d ago

Sony has not yet begun to fight, h8ers. The only thing that can go wrong is if we consumers have too MUCH to play and not enough money to buy.

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Anon19745318d ago

Didn't say anything other than "Sony has some momentum. Microsoft better watch out if they continue."
Ummm...thanks for that informative piece? I guess?
No meat to this article at all.

StayHigh5318d ago

Sony will indeed have to do a price drop..And release a lot of exclusive games..I believe they will catch up with the 360 or even pass their install base by next year..Just remember 7 million is not a big gap bewteen Sony and Microsof.. The 360 being the cheapest i would expect the sytem to sell like 50 million console already but it didn't at all..

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Montrealien5318d ago

good stuff, at this rate Sony will continue to be competive and push MS to make great games and vise versa.

nix5318d ago (Edited 5318d ago )

wait until GDC.
wait until E3.
wait until Halo Wars.
wait until Lost and Damn.
wait until Ninja Blade.
wait until Alan Wake.

at least PS3 owners are still getting better games!

Spydiggity5318d ago (Edited 5318d ago )

"It gets off to a very slow start, begins to pick up speed and gain momentum, and if you're not careful, you could find yourself crushed in a matter of seconds"

sounds more like bangin a fat chic.

GiantEnemyFlop5318d ago (Edited 5318d ago )

"that's just how Sony rolls "

The Dempsy roll...

Man_of_the_year5318d ago

Nice Spin there bro. Is that the claimes that you are sticking too? That the reason MOST of the PS3 exclusives don't sell is because PS3 owners are too busy playing other games?

So would that imply that PS3 owners are playing Multiplat games more than exclusives? Which then would mean that multiplats mean more to a gamer than an exclusive? Thus it can be said Multiplats > Exclusives? Therefor DLC for multiplats > exclusives? Which then would mean EXCLUSIVE DLC > Exclusives?

I really don't think Sony's poor sales for their exclusive games is because of ALL the great games (multi or exclusive) in the library right now. The PS3 has 21+ million consoles out there right now. If the 360 can get great sales from their AAA games, so should Sony. And remember, pirates are taking sales away from the 360, yet the games still sell.

What i think, is that the PS3 is not just a gaming machine, its also a movie player, and i think there is a large % of PS3 users that use it mainly for the Blu-ray movies and not so much the gaming. But this can be argued by the great sales of GTA IV and RE5/SF4 sales...so really...i don't know. Maybe just maybe, Sony's exclusives are just not as popular as some of the multiplat games and thier developers...Kojima, Capcom, SE, Poly...etc.

Anon19745318d ago

Get to what you really mean. PS3 games aren't doing Gears and Halo type numbers. I hate to break it to you, but 99% of 360 games don't do anywhere near those type of numbers. In fact, if a game breaks 1 million that puts it in the top 10% of all games released.
There's nothing wrong with how Sony games are selling. Clearly companies wouldn't be claiming they make the most money off PS3 games if there was an issue there.

Cenobia5318d ago (Edited 5318d ago )

Sony has more first party games, some of which are niche genres. Shooters sell like crazy, and established shooters that are marketed out the a$$ sell even better. Halo and Gears will always sell more because of the marketing and broad appeal of their genres. Games like Folklore, Valkyria Chronicles, etc. aren't going to break sales records, but that doesn't mean they aren't great games.

Sales don't really mean one game is better than another (not that you were inferring that). Its a matter of opinion, and personal preference. I got the PS3 for the franchises Sony owns and creates (primarily Team ICO) so I personally don't care about sales numbers seeing as my favorite games of all time haven't broken any sales records. The PS3 also seems to have a broader range of high quality exclusives, which is why I prefer it.

Also, I do think the economy has a little to do with some games' poor sales. I would pick up a few more games (Valkyria Chronicles, Mirrors Edge, etc) if I had the money, but I don't so I just get the most anticipated releases. And with a game like Valkyria Chronicles, I'm not even sure I'd like it (not a genre I usually play). If I had the money I'd definitley grab it though.

Maybe that says more about my sh!tty job than the economy though...

mint royale5318d ago

after the 'is the ps3 the new dreamcast.'

I mean come on where is the evidence? The software lineup for the ps3 is awesome but saleswise there is no momentum. They are down YOY in slaes. Sales momentum will come with the pricecut and who knows when that will be. Soon hopefully.

darthv725318d ago

"If Sony keeps up the great exclusive releases, drops the price of the console, and advertises like there's no tomorrow, I believe the Xbox 360 could be facing some actual competition from them for once."

you mean to tell me that sony HASNT been competing against the 360...not even ONCE?!?!?

Sony and MS have two different approaches to revealing their upcoming titles. Sony likes to show off and announce info waaaayyyy in advance and let the hype build. MS hits you when you arent looking and you walk away thinking "wow where did that come from".

I am expecting some new things from sony. It is to be expected but they will likely just talk up more about what is already known and how much closer those games are to being released. I am really expecting a big show from MS either at gdc or definately at e3. Titles no one even imagined MS could secure er um... create!

People need to know that the biggest competition for sony isnt MS or nintendo but it is themselves. PS2 is still selling and so long as that happens it is hurting ps3. In the end it is all good for sony from three fronts (psp, ps2 & ps3). you got to hand it to ms though. All they have is one front (unless you want to count the pc side of things). Nintendo has two and is kicking some major arse.

Kaneda5317d ago

I guess next rumors will be M$ price cut on 360.. or M$ concentrating on 720 in the near future. Probably the reason why the lack of games on 360.

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KingKionic 5318d ago

i wouldnt say steamroll.but i would say some solid competion .

UnwanteDreamz5318d ago

I don't see how any one could doubt that Sony would deliver the games. I bought a PS3 because I trusted Sony to have great games for their console. Sure the machine looks good on paper but I can't play tech specs. GAMES! Hell, if they keep it up they can finish dead last this gen and I will still buy a PS4 without hesitation. I have been gaming on Sony machines for almost 13 years.

no-spin5318d ago

i second that

I walk away from the PS2 in the early years and towards the xbox. yeah halo and ninja gaiden were so good it made my decision a satisfying one.
Then games stop coming. Lack of 3rd party support and MS studios doing nothing but Halo, i got off gaming completely. 3 years later i bought a PS2 + God of War 1 & 2 + RE4 + GT4 + etc. Greatness delivered by the PS brand, pure and simple. Now look at the 360, first 2 years were all greatness. Full 3rd party support with exclusives and time exclusives.
3 years later the 360 is looking like a lame duck. MS will be fine due to multiplats and low console price, but current owners are stock with a gaming console without defining games (but multiplats will have to do). Sony seemed ready to deliver the goods on their own with 1st party studios and strong allies. It has been proven for the third time, Sony Delivers. This year i think the PS3 will have way too many great games, and no time nor money to buy them ALL.
PS3 FTW
PS4- if i have the money will buy at launch

Man_of_the_year5318d ago (Edited 5318d ago )

Bro you do know that you are contradicting yourself right?

"Then games stop coming. Lack of 3rd party support and MS studios doing nothing but Halo,"

- Now i think you are only refering to the xbox but in the 5 years the xbox had been in the market, there were only 2 Halo games. Yet you say you went and bought "PS2 + God of War 1 & 2 + RE4 + GT4 + etc"...there are larger numbers after the names of those games than there was on Halo2.

Then you say "3 years later the 360 is looking like a lame duck" but there are more exclusive titles on the 360 than there is the PS3 at this time and date. And in the 1st quarter, Sony has released the same amount of exclusive games as MS. So this quote makes absolutley no sense what-so-ever.

Then you write "year i think the PS3 will have way too many great games" yet there is no confirmed DATE for those great games in 09. Can you please list the games that are CONFIRMED for 09 with a source and date?

And you must know that MS doesn't disclose their games until the year that they come out at certain events. So how can you determine if the 360 doesn't have any good exclusive games coming out...do you know something within the industry that the rest of us do not?

However all in all with your comment "PS3 FTW
PS4- if i have the money will buy at launch" i guess we can now understand why you contradicted yourself with nonsense information...its Sony fanboyism with a large dose of Ignorance.

no-spin5318d ago

If you read like you write no wonder you did not understand my post.
Was RE 4 on the xbox?
GTA series got released a year later than the PS2
Halo games were the only good thing going on.
360 lame duck argument is looking forward, not backwards.

I think your post was some quotes with words next to it, no point nor logic whatsoever

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jamesrocks31475318d ago

ps3's exclusives especially the 1st party ones, just never sonys 1st part studios alone are bigger then microsofts and nentendos combined.

DelbertGrady5318d ago

Last year Gears of War 2 sold more than LBP and Resistance 2 combined.

Sony's 1st party titles are only big in the media. Once they are exposed to the gaming community they tend to lose their hype. They don't enjoy the same reception as 360 exclusives.

UnwanteDreamz5318d ago

Oh I have to correct you there. PS3 exclusives don't enjoy the same sales as 360 exclusives, I agree, but since when do good sales equal a good game?

Everybody I personaly know who owns Gears 2 (admittedly only 5 people) stopped playing it months ago. My point is we play games and one game being better than another game is subjective. You can use all the sales charts you want but it wont change that fact.

no-spin5318d ago

sales? does MS give gamers a bonus for the huge sales or do they charge YOU to go online and play the game you just bought and contributed to their success?

Great games are NOT defined by sales number. Go play Shadow of the Colossus and the we can talk, or Heavenly Sword- no 360 game can match the quality of that game.

Gamers tend to dig for the hidden gems. Fanboys watch commercials and obey the propaganda

Disclaimer- Gears 2 is awesome, R2 avarage, LBP is untouchable

sumguy815318d ago (Edited 5318d ago )

good point about gears of war. in fact, throw in killzone and you still don't match the sales.

but i also agree with the guy below you, gears 2 sucks. it's a buggy, laggy mess. and sales =/= quality. but using your same example, i don't know anyone (not even 5 ppl) that play resistance 2. i don't know anyone who still plays LBP either. and killzone has only been out a month and it's already dying down huge. i can't stand it personally.

but look at COD 4 or halo or Gears of War 1. tons of ppl still play those games. and halo wars is actually picking up momentum. when it came out, it was just me and one other person on my friends list playin it. now, in the evening, it's like 8-10 ppl on my list which is almost half of my average ppl online at any given time.

lets not get into a battle about quality because it's purely opinion. sales are the only factual record for making these claims. and that makes the first statement pretty accurate. if sony exclusives are so great, why are so few ppl buying them? and it's not because ppl are using it as a blu-ray player. i use mine as a blu-ray player cuz i beat ratchet and clank and metal gear so many times and there's nothing left to play on it.

@no-spin
"sales? does MS give gamers a bonus for the huge sales or do they charge YOU to go online and play the game you just bought and contributed to their success?"

Nah, they use it to make an online platform that is pleasurable to use, loaded with features, and that sets the trends that sony follows (steals) 2 years later. they also use that extra money to buy exclusive DLC. Though i personally don't support DLC if it costs money no matter what system i'm playing. Comparing Live to PSN is like comparing DVD to Betamax. and of course better technology is more expensive. would you pay 400 dollars for iPhone if it couldn't play music and videos? and that's why psn can't charge money. if they tried, everyone would just get xbox.

Sevir045318d ago

Comment of the century!!! bubbles to no-spin and unwanteddreamz fankids will always play up the numbers and rave about "teh sales!!!!!!!" for them i'll tell them enjoy playing sales. I'll play the games ^^

Man_of_the_year5318d ago (Edited 5318d ago )

I am just curious? YOu say that good sales do not = good games...well wouldn't a good game sell? And would more people buying a good game mean more people within the (free) online community playing the game = more people to meet and add to your friends list so that you can play those great games together at later times?

I'm sorry to those who feel that sales don't mean anything. Sales mean a lot. You get an idea if the game made is actually for the audiance that purchased the console. You can make the greatest game in the world but if nobody buys it then was it really a great game? If nobody purchases your product is it really a good product? And if you are the only one that purchased that good product and there is nobody else to play with, is it still a good product?

People don't buy products or services if they feel that the product or service is not worth their money.

Sales matter to the devs, the console maker, and the console owner. Anyone who can't see this are not too bright.

Why o why5318d ago (Edited 5318d ago )

Okami says hi, so does Shadow of the Colossus and his older brother ICO. You know who also says hi? the gamer that used to be inside you, you know the one that cared about your own personal enjoyment NOT if others felt the same. By your warped logic wii sports must be the most enjoyable game EVER. You are trying to project this notion that games have to hit halo/Gran Turismo numbers to be successful, enjoyable or warrant a sequel or even turn a profit. You are acting like some investor stroke gamer instead of a gamer who is also interested in the business side.

'Sales matter to the devs, the console maker, and the console owner. Anyone who can't see this are not too bright.'

OK, im assuming you are JUST a console owner right NOT a dev, NOT a console maker. Isn't your enjoyment your priority as a gamer? Haven't you played/enjoyed something that hasn't sold 2 trillion copies because if you haven't then you are: NONE OF THE ABOVE and i say that because i'd replace 'console owner' with 'GAMER' dont watch him die.

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TheBrit5318d ago

so whats in 2.70 that is not on xbox live?

TheBrit5318d ago

Glad to see the grown up children are out in force and cannot answer a legitimate question for others that do not know.

Besides my 360 being in my picture I do own a ps3 you know.

Children now-adays, I tell ya.

CommonSense5318d ago

i'll happily pay 30-50 dollars a year for the system that costs 100 dollars less and has many many more good games and vastly superior online community.

psn is just now getting cross game chat. live has had it since launch. it's easy to be free when you just steal everyone else's ideas and apply them a few years too late. being innovative isn't cheap.

aldesko5317d ago

"it's easy to be free when you just steal everyone else's ideas and apply them a few years too late."

You mean like Microsoft does with Windows (except for the free part)? OH SNAP!

"Glad to see the grown up children are out in force and cannot answer a legitimate question for others that do not know. "

He answered your question. If PSN has the same functionality as XBL, why does one cost money? Regardless, the supposed 2.7 update isn't "steamrolling".

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Godmars2905318d ago

Between the RRoD, buggy games and DLC, a limited amount of exclusive, this may as well be the start of next-gen. When people were complaining about the PS3's price.

Oh wait, they still are...

Godmars2905318d ago

Just talking about frame rate issues with JRPGs. Lost Odyssey. SO4.

Sayai jin5318d ago

Ummm, MS did not make those games so how are those buggy games MS's fault?

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Welcome to Noir York City: Max Payne 2 at 20

For Max Payne 2's 20th anniversary, Entertainium editors Andy Johnson and Gareth Brading break down why they still love the Payne.

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Chaka Khan is in a song about Tekken 2, for some reason

What character do you reckon she plays as in Tekken 2? I think it's... every woman.

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Lollipop chainsaw now a remaster not a remake

At fans request apparently.

gold_drake2d ago

i wonder if they looked into what a remake would cost and went "NOPE Remaster it is" haha

FreeckyCake1d 6h ago

It probably has to do with what the producer had mentioned recently. The thing about not wanting to change the essence of the original (e.g censorship). So maybe remastering the game was the best choice.

CrimsonWing691d 2h ago

The link to the story didn’t really answer the question. It makes no sense that you have to censor a remake and not a remaster.

What I got from that article is licensed music forced them to change to a Remake(?) and that they’re working hard with the platform holders to negotiate not censoring, which Sony is stupid about.

My question is, how would a Remaster not have to go through censorship?

I’ve seen dialogue changed in FF7 and Baten Kaitos. Then you have actual cutscenes being removed like in the dmc remaster.

I assume the same could be done to this game.

FreeckyCake1d 1h ago

No idea. That's why I said " maybe ".

CrimsonWing691d 2h ago

Bull sh*t, you show me where fans wanted a Remaster instead of a Remake. I was more onboard with a Remake, I’m less excited just playing the same game I did before but now with sharper textures and better framerate.

oIMyersIo1d 1h ago

Probably realised this won't do the numbers so didn't want to invest.

No harm, I love Lollipop Chainsaw but it's a bit of a niche title.

gold_drake1d ago

yeh it was super niche even bk then

LoveSpuds7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

Loved it back in the day and have my copy sat on the shelf and ypu are right, it was super niche, which is why my copy is increasing in value slowly but surely. Hoping a remaster doesn't tank the value of my PS3 copy

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