Ryan Rigney of SlapStic.com presents some eye-opening statistics on the price of Xbox 360 hard drives versus the price of an average, everyday USB hard drive. Turns out, Microsoft is totally ripping off its consumers.
They barely realized this?
Yeah, uh, 360 hard drive prices have been silly compared to even externals since the dawn of man. We all know that Microsoft is insane with their accessory prices. This isn't news.
And this is new to people...? I think that if a company sets a "high" price on an item and people buy it, then they have the right to do that.
Mmm... NO! p.s. of`course Microsoft is totally ripping off its consumers, BUT after selling their consoles so cheap, they need somehow to compensate those losses. It`s a business. Though, i like Sony`s way more... It`s expensive on the start, BUT more cheaper in a long term. =) p.p.s. actually, @1.4 you are wrong on this: "That MS can sell hard drives for this much shows that people find their product worth the money," It`s called a MONOPOLY, that is the one of the reasons, why i don`t like M$....
@1.3, good point. I bet they look to the hard drives to help make up for the loss they take on the $199 arcade model. I'm sure a percentage of arcade owners eventually decide to invest in a hard drive. But I don't really fault a company for pricing its goods high if they sell. If McDonald's sold Big Macs for $20, they wouldn't be "ripping off their consumers" because they wouldn't have any consumers. That MS can sell hard drives for this much shows that people find their product worth the money, and MS shouldn't be expected to lower its prices to be more charitable.
what else is new? So is paying to just use an online service.
lol, may be they finely remove there famboysem goggle and see the truth about 360
What truth is that? That's a solid system with plenty of great, fun games that many people enjoy as an alternative to Sony's system? OH NO! THE TRUTH! Yeah, the hard drive prices are ridiculous. They've taken the same "overpriced proprietary accessory" path as Apple does, and it's annoying as Hell. However, it doesn't make me have any less fun when I'm playing games on my 360.
MS apparently learned a few lessons in their loss to PS2 last generation. The Xbox included an 8GB hard drive in every console for no extra charge, yet MS watched as PS2 owners gladly forked over $50 for an 8MB memory card. @1.10 - "they did it"? So, you're admitting that Sony ripped off PS2 owners last generation? Did you own an Xbox last generation with free built in memory, or did you pay Sony for the privilege of saving your games on a PS2?
"a solid system" r you series ?
Awesome reasoning. "They did it, so it's OK if we do it." Not to mention, there was cheaper alternatives to the PS2 memory card, no such luck for the 360 HDD.
Yes, I'm serious. Unacceptable hardware failure rate aside, the 360 is a solid system. It has a great controller and a great line-up of fun games, and a very well-designed online system that is seamlessly integrated with all aspects of the console. If it weren't for the ridiculously shoddy hardware, I'd consider it right up there with the SNES and the PS2.
Whaa? they aren't bad, just because i can get a 500GB HDD for my PS3 for the same price as a 120GB 360 HDD doesn't mean its ridiculous
classical example of you get what u paid for doesnt apply here. I think this one everybody agreed fanboy or not fanboy.
NEWSFLASH: Just because a problem has been around for a long time, it doesn't mean that no one should try to fight it. Rallying against something is how you get it fixed.
If folk don't like paying extra for a 360's harddrive, they can purchase a PS2, a PS3, a PSP, Wii, or a DS.
@1.8 soxfan2005 As a former Bestbuy/futureshop, I call bullshit on your $50 PS2 memory card. At most, it was $30 which most average joes, teen or otherwise could afford, even sports equipment like a decent baseball bat could cost you more than $30. MS harddrives are over-priced proprietary products, no arguing about it. A new 500GB western digital (My passport) harddrive just cost me $129, by years end it'll be about $99 or less, while 1 terabyte harddrives will become the norm. A 120GB 360 harddrive is $169, not a large capacity HD by today's standards nor a cheap one at that.
Or three for that matter? Heck, a year or so ago I bought a 250 gig hard drive for my PS3 for about 90 bucks. This is not news and anybody just getting wind of this needs to crawl out from that rock a few more times than once a year.
Everybody on this site knows that those things are overpriced. Why was this even approved? This isn't news to anybody here. Talk about being late....
"Unacceptable hardware failure rate aside, the 360 is a solid system." ~ Definition of Oxymoron
And the WIFI adapter is just as bad
Yes, Microsoft's proprietary HDD prices are ridiculous. I still have my 20GB HDD on my 360, but then I don't use it much. A few months ago I swapped my PS3's 60GB HDD with a 500GB model, and it was 20 dollars cheaper than MS's proprietary 120GB model.
The prices are really horrific. It's to entice more people to the Eltie and Pro SKUs, which are generally a better deal (If you want my opinion, the best deal is the Pro 60GB 360).
Duh. The 20GB is $60, 60GB is $80, and the 120GB is $100 at gamestop used. with a coupon and edge card they become $42, $56, and $70 which is better, but still too much. I can get a 320GB HDD for the PS3 for $70.
This is no surprise. But what people don't realize is that, with the right equipment, they can upgrade their own drives to 120 GB without having to give MS any more money.
actually 16GB is usable on your hardrive, not 11GB like this article foolishly states. Just letting all you guys know that, seeing is how i still have my original 20GB 360. I love how these articles stretch the truth to make their console brand look better than the other.
So for a $150 you can get a 120gb hard drive for you Xbox OR for $100 you can get a 500gb 2.5" internal for your PS3. http://www.tigerdirect.com/... sorry but I had to.
You had every right to, those prices are insane. Especially since the new dashboard update, I barely have the space to install games, let alone download demos.
Actually you can get a 320gb 7200 rpm Travelstar Hitachi drive off zipzoomfly.com for $60 after rebate. That's for a 7200 rpm drive that will actually give you faster performance. The prices for 360 hard drives are truly ridiculous. Good thing I bought a used 120 gb 360 drive off ebay for $73 and I still felt ripped off. I can't imagine dropping $150 for that POS.
is a 500GB harddrive on newegg.com for 95 bucks.
Ther hardrive prices do suck... But at least the 360 doesn't require 5GB installs to run games.
Let me finish that sentence for you. to run games...that were built on 360 then ported to PS3. Not the other way around. If you haven't noticed yet, installs on PS3 are becoming more and more uncommon.
Tell me a 360 game that any of you are currently playing that you haven't installed yet. I'd install all my 360 games just to rid the noise alone. That and so there wouldn't be much strain on the 360 which leads to hardware failure.
Lord Vader's point is that it doesn't "require" it. But that really has no justification to the 360 HDD prices.
Lord Vader's point is, for lack of a better term, pointless. No developers will require something that, and im pulling this # out of my arse so don't quote me on this, 50% of the user-base couldn't do out of the box. How many games released on the 360 allow an optional install? I'm only asking because I honestly don't know, but it isn't crazy to assume that if it were a reasonable option, it would be mandatory.
Actually 360 games have a 7-8gb install.. Which is a must for me due to the noise the dvd drive kicks out.
@2.8 all 360 games have an optional install now since the NXE update. That's the only reason I had to buy a 120 gb drive. Installed games are so much quieter, run smoother and no read disc errors. Otherwise I would have used my 20 gb hard drive forever instead of paying those insane prices.
its funny , because i can get a 500 gig for my ps3 for 90 pounds, and if i wanna get a 120 gig for my 360 it cost 100 pounds, wat a joke, well thats microsoft for u. wats even more funny is that that in the casing for the 360 hard drive is a standard 2.5 inch sata laptop hard drives, same 1 that goes in the ps3, it seems like ur paying all that money just for the casing.
I think you can get them for cheaper than that now? not positive though.
i thought they use their own technology on the 360 HDD thats why they charge so much because they make their own. if all those extra money only goes to the casing, then whoever buying it is getting their ass majorly ripped off by Microsoft.
Wow surprised / Sarcasm
The fact that MS still has diehard fans after ripping them off like that day after day is fascinating me. I know they're mostly young uneducated American teens, but still. TV and adverts can brainwash you, don't watch TV, decide yourself.
How do you think Obama got elected?
How did POTUS Obama get elected? He competed in more than a dozen Red states and won many of them which in turn did not allow the Rethugs to STEAL the election like they did in 2000 and 2004 when it came down to 1 state. He is INTELLIGENT He is HONEST He is KIND He actually GIVES A CHIT about the average middleclass American He has a PLAN unlike the Rupukes He is TOLERANT of other cultures and beLIEfs He put together an amazing campaign that beat one of the best (Clinton) political machines He said the same thing stop after stop...things that made sense He did not stoop to the Rupukes level of negative LIES He did NOT pick BibleSpice (Palin) as his running mate I could go on, but whats the point. The irony is, even though you slurp up the Koolaid from the Christian right (more than likely) his ideas will HELP you too. RAmen you brainless, ignorant, hypocritical, superstitious whack job. You probably think Billo the CLown, Hannity and Coultergiest are TRUE Americans and not money grubbing can't care less about the Jethro's who beLIEve the crap they spew on a daily basis.
Someone hate much?
From Leon for bringing up politics in an article about 360 hard drives. From doG beLIEfs for posting something as stupid as Leon. I really would like for people to wait for the Republicans to start campaigning for the nomination for 2012 before hearing about both sides blind love for their party again.
Please do not confuse ridicule with hate. I don't hate Leon. HATE is the only four letter word in my book. I admit, I am confounded by the thought process of the Right and far right. In my opinion and with facts, if you look back at history...every single time a significant advance in culture, freedom, technology...whatever, every single FRAKING time it was PROGRESSIVE thinking that led the way. I like PROGRESS, I love TOLERANCE. I like DIFFERENT points of view. The progressive liberal mind allows for those qualities. The conservative mind does not. RAmen
The way Microsoft nickel and dimes the consumer with EVERY product they have is pathetic. The fact that many loyal 360 fans TOLERATE it is beyond words. 500gb internal HDD...$100 120gb external HDD that largely only works with MS approved media...$180 Why the media does not bash MS for this on a daily basis like they most certainly would if it were Sony is not logical.
HDDVD has obviously never owned a PS2 - he must have owned an Xbox last generation. Every Xbox had a hard drive built in, PS2's required a $50 8MB memory card. Every Xbox had an ethernet port built in, PS2's required a $40 adaptor to play online. I know I posted the same thing at 1.8, but some people don't see the double standard.
You are a hypocrite. You say that you love different points of view, but only if they are the same as yours. And I was not saying you "hated" Leon, I was pointing out the obvious hate you have towards people with "different points of view" than yours.
You are confusing some terms. Conservative doesn't mean non-progressive. It means non-liberal. progressive lives in an entirely different realm than conservative and liberal. On 360. It only rips off consumers when they make the wrong decision. I'm not defending them, because i would more than love a cheap HDD upgrade and won't upgrade till that's an option. That said, the system bundles themselves are good deals. Many of the accessories are rip offs though, I don't think I've bought anything since launch that wasn't on sale.
"after ripping them off like that day after day" I've not given a single dime to MS this year and I've been gaming just fine. Nobody is ripping me of day after day. Does your bullsh*t FUD know any limits?
"RAmen" Pastafarian? +bubble
but what are you gonna do?
What you gonna do ?? Well, don't buy this product, buy a PS3 instead. Sony is a megacorp and it's no angel either, but it's definitely the lesser of two evils. If you buy their products, why would MS try to fix RROD and why would they price the hard drive decently ? The only thing you can do is voting with your wallet (or your parents' wallet).
yea well u could bang on their doors, just like every1 bangs on sony to drop the price of ps3.
cuz x360 doesnt have an HC fan elsewhere with bad 09 lineup and mediocre /flop games you can imagine x360's fate in 09 and beyond it had a few good games but now those are being announced for ps3 like NG2 and soon to be Me2 on top of that both re5 and sf4 went on to sell a whole lot more on ps3 in terms of global sales plus do you think anyone would even consider an x360 purchase after kz2's release?
Seriously, man, those fanboys are killing me : 'Yeah, it's not coooool, but what are you gonna do ?', 'That's life, bro !' They're like brainless zombies in Resident Evil 5. Except it's real and it's scary. @Why dis : To play Ninja Gaiden 2 Sigma (improved version, PS3 exclusive announced today).
Why would people do that? so they can watch Movies and look at it? Leave troll.
Oh the irony...
Jesus christ the droid f*ckin army is out in full force today. Is elementary school got early dismissal or something? KZ2 looks beautiful but Gears 2 takes a sh*t on everything else. Stop downplaying one of the best games this generation you gamer-posers. Nasim you are such a poser you don't even own a PS3 or 360 you atari2600 playing fool...
Duh. Most of the 360's peripherals are reasonably priced, but the HDs and WIFI adapter are overpriced. (From a proud 360 owner, BTW).
'They're hitting my face only on monday and wednesday, so I guess it's okay.'
@HD: What's your point? I enjoy my system of choice, you enjoy yours. I'm open-minded enough to offer criticism when it's due.
You obviously don't own a 360, so why do you give a crap what other people spend their money on anyway?
Because I don't want stupid megacorps ripping us daily to win any market share. Look, if Europeans and Japanese were as brainwashed as Americans, MS could have succeeded. What do you think would happen ? - Live would suddenly cost 150$ a year - adverts would be everywhere on my console (well, even worse than now) - no big budget games anymore - 400 $ hard drive and so on The only thing that's stopping MS greed is Sony. Sony is the lesser of two evils. Do you want this world ? If not, then vote with your wallet.
Sony keeps Microsoft's greed at bay and Microsoft keeps Sony's greed at bay. This is the ENTIRE POINT of competition. If anyone "side" got a monopoly, gamers would be screwed. Sony does not "care" about gamers any more than Microsoft does, and both would gladly screw their customers if they were the only game in town.
@Silellak : While I acknowledged they are BOTH evil earlier, I think anybody can see in 1 minute that Sony is less greedy : - free online vs not free - no adverts vs ads everywhere - peripherals price And I don't even talk about MS OS or Office (Vista price, MS tons of trials, failure rate trouble and so on) No man, it's not exactly the same.
Many great points you have made. Excellent post. Such a simple concept it is. If MS consumers did not bend over and take it without lube from Bill and pals and smile...MS would not be selling a small HDD for $180 or charge $50 a year for the right to play other people in a game that they bought on an ISP that they pay for. And don't give me this crap that its only so and so a day...because you still end up paying an extra TWOHUNDRED American dollars in just FOUR years. Taking it up the backside is taking it up the poopershute even if it is just a little bit at a time.
HDDVD - I really hope you are not from the US. Insulting your country just because your console of choice is trailing the competition is beyond reprehensible. People like you give the US a bad name, not 360 gamers.