Halo 3 vs. Killzone 2 Review Scores: Can You Compare The Two?

"The rating system has been an essential part of any videogame review for a long time, allowing the audience to get a good idea of how close to perfect the game is. Unfortunately, this system is arguably full of serious flaws, so is it about time we started to rethink the system?"

-TheGamerAccess.com

[panasonic23]

ahahhahaahh what yall mad halo review is higher then the second coming of jesus ahahahahhhh halo killer my ass

[chidori666]

cod 4 killing the halo3 and kill zone 2 finished this garbage game than halo is.

[Max Power]

if you are going to compare review numbers then you'll have to compare the reviews, where you will obviously see how skewed they really are.

[talltony]

a 9 back then when halo was released is not the same as a 9 now.

[PoSTedUP]

yea the reviews change as time goes on, its strange in a way but thats just the way it is.

panisonic23 go sell some girl scout cookies.

[Sevir04]

but once you play, you'll notice that the games could be more different and go after a whole different audience

Though many Will agree, KZ2 surprised alot and many are saying it now. KZ2 set the bar.

[Trollimite]

they should be comparing killzone 1 to killzone 2 imo

i have yet to see an article comparing the first in the series to the second.

if they were to compare killzone 1 to killzone 2 the changes would be astounding!

[RememberThe357]

I don't think Killzone 2 has dedicated servers. And it still baffles me that the game doesn't lag at all online. Infinity Ward has some explaining to do.

[Unicron]

Gran Turismo.

Bye Bye Troll.

[PirateThom]

Hate to break it to you, but there's a little known franchise called "Gran Turismo". You should check it out. Its sales blow Halo away and the scores are pretty much the same.

[Parapraxis]

Sir Daniel Fortesque , you missed 1/2 the points Adam Sessler was making apparently.
Way to fail.
His rant was against over zealous fanboys on BOTH sides of the fence kiddo.
Yes, you would be one of the typical fanboy types he was directly speaking to.

[PoSTedUP]

"metal gear solid is the best selling franchise ever."

wow dude go back to the cub scouts.

j/k but MGS franchise isnt even close, its not even in the top 10. Gran Turismo is in the top 10 though.

[HDgamer]

Killzone 2 has dedicated servers no p2p there.

[badz149]

that is actually very good! if anybody is trying to ignore this is kinda obviously blind!

[Shepherd 214]

your an idiot and anyone who thinks like you is an idiot. halo 3 got great review scores because guess what? Its a great game. if your gonna make up excuses as to why halo 3 got awesome reviews use something else other than the old "MS gave them $1000 gift bags Sh**". I spent 3-4 hours today doing dozens of different things in Halo 3. Its extremely fun and idiots like you wont change that. Great reviews, massive sales, and a huge fanbase that will say the same. i dont know what else your ignorant mind wants, much less how much information it can hold, but Halo 3 is amazing. Deal with it troll.

[cryymoar]

NO! Nobody that thinks that way is an idiot, in fact they are unbiased and intelligent. Because there are FPS games on the PS3 that do things BETTER than Halo 3 yet Halo remains "god of fps".

Resistance 2 had 60 players online, innovative weapons, gigantic boss battles, 8 player co-op!, 720p HD resolution, colorful levels, better graphics, yet it didn't take that crown away. The media just said "oh it was a good FPS, now back to Halo and Gears."
So when will being a better game actually mean something?

If the tables were turned, and Halo 3 was on the PS3, and Resistance came to the xb360 as a "halo killer," it would have stolen the crown.

[Time_Is_On_My_Side]

Lol, fun has nothing to do with quality and Halo 3 doesn't meet quality was the whole point of the comment. Nothing in the comment said that Halo 3 wasn't fun but Halo 3 doesn't meet next generation standards and got high reviews. While PlayStation 3 titles seem to be put down because of "quality" (according to journalist) making the journalist bias towards XBOX 360. A journalist can't criticize one platform on quality while criticizing another based on feelings.

In simple terms the way critics review Sony titles are different they way they review XBOX 360 titles. Now the question is are you letting your feelings control your reviews or are you being unbiased?

Learn from apena89 this person knows how to be unbiased when criticizing video games.

[Tryst]

We should also remember that about 90% of the review sites/sources reviewed Killzone 2 based on the Single player alone. The multi-player servers didn't even go live until a couple of weeks before Killzone 2 was released - the reviews started flooding in 3 weeks before this!

I think also most sites should go back and review this game and this time factor in the Multi-player, because for me, its the best multi-player I have ever played.

Gamespot did the right thing by holding off from doing the review until the multiplayer was live.

Halo 3 and CoD4 had a LARGE portion of their score based on the online, so why didn't Killzone 2??? If CoD4 was reviewed based on its 5 hour long single player alone, would it have been reviewed as highly as it did???

[ThanatosDMC]

The thing that wowed me the most about KZ2 was the cinematics on single player campaign. It's all in-game graphics! I was like... "WHoa...!"

But yes, play the game first or at least watch someone play the game before you make some silly funny judgement calls.

Oh yeah, dont y'all think it's funny when you kill someone on multiplayer that you should shoot them again just to make sure they stay dead and not be healed by a medic? Every time someone shoots me when im all ready down i say, "what an a-hole!" and laugh!

[BattleAxe]

You can't even compare Killzone 2 to Halo 3, because they're two completely different styles of FPS games. Killzone 2 should be compared more to CoD 4 and CoD: WaW.

Halo 3 should be compared to Resistance 2.

[deno]

I own both so I will judge equally. Both are awesome. But in my opinion nothing beats uncharted this gen so far for me. Personal opinion.

[PoSTedUP]

uncharted is a damn awesome game. its one of the only two games i beat more than 3 times this gen (MGS4 as well).

KZ2 and halo3 are both great. one has a more arcade, cartoon colorful feel to it. the other has a realistic, dark killzone feel to it.

if the games came out at the same time, halo3 would not have had those reviews. im sure of it.

well.. *goes back to playing killzone*

[RememberThe357]

2pac and Killzone 2. Freakin bliss.

[INehalemEXI]

Assault class + Boost , Launching missles bumping Dragonforce. This is living.

[cryymoar]

Drum & Bass and Killzone 2 makes ME wet. :]

[IrishAssa]

didn't really like uncharted, I used to love the tomb raiders, so far this gen for me ...
1.Gears 1
2.COD4
3.KZ2
4.Valkyria Chronicles
5.GT5 would be here, just know it

I expect FF v 13 to replace num 1 but im probly wrong.

[Unicron]

Both are FPS games, but they are quite different in design and focus.

Far too many people are ignoring that review scores are ARBITRARY, MADE ON A WHIM NUMBERS. They are not fact. They are nothing but opinion.

Please stop putting more importance on them than they deserve - none.

[Obama]

People who have played both online will agree that killzone 2 is a better game. The online is simply amazing, and I can't believe that it plays better than cod4.

[pshizle]

sonyboys like you think killzone2 is the next coming of jesus christ

[PoSTedUP]

killzone2 is like the next best thing in gaming fps's man. the next best thing...

[Hallucinate]

and xbots like you think halo 3 is the first coming of jesus..and gears 2 is the 1.5 coming of jesus (c wat i did thar?)

[PoSTedUP]

lol?

[caffman]

but not as good as COD4

[Major_Tom]

That's your opinion; alot of people would disagree with you.

[goflyakite]

Agreed w/ Major Tom.

Coming from a huge COD4 fan who's reached max prestige, I just find KZ2 more fun now. Which means COD:MW2 needs to bring a lot to the table this time around.

[Sir Daniel Fortesque]

No it doesn't, and inside of you you know that's the sad truth for Sony fanboys.

[RememberThe357]

You are a very sad person...

[ZuperAmazingCooKie]

RememberThe357, I disagree with you. I don't think he is sad, I just think he is mentally retarded.

[GarandShooter]

I couldn't disagree with this article more. Reviews aren't misused by gamers as much as they're abused by reviewers. With no set standards of where to begin and what to 'deduct points' for, we're left with a hodgepodge of thoughtless reviews, where pros and cons of certain design choices can contradict themselves among reviews for different games from the same source. Add into that the 'internet' reviews and the financial need to generate site hits and the system as a whole has little credibility. The best one can hope for is to find a like minded reviewer with similar tastes and a decent ability to communicate.

And this statement is weak:
'Back then, it was still acceptable to make games similar to their last generation counterparts, with not much more brought to the table'

I find it hard to believe that Bungie took a 'throw a new coat of paint on it and polish the chrome' approach to Halo 3, and would be highly insulted if I were a part of the dev team.

These two games are about as same and different as are Kia and Ferrari in the automotive world. Yeah, they both have doors, tires, and steering wheels, but the differences are as vast as the similarities are common. Playing these two games feels as similar and as different as driving a Ferrari and Kia would feel.

And before the bandwagon fills with fanboys, I am not calling one game a Kia and the other a Ferrari, just using this example for analogous purposes.

[cryymoar]

i love your logic, really i do. make a gaming web site please?
I've had enough with places like HHG and 1up.

[PirateThom]

Well, personally, I'd rather play Killzone 2 than Halo 3. I'm not going to force my opinion on people though, the games are too different for that.

[Sangria]

I simply hated Halo 3 so i prefer not giving my opinion on it. Both Halo and Killzone can't be compared. The article says it can because both are sci-fi shooters, but Halo is much more futuristic than Killzone. There is no laser, energy shield or flying vehicles in KZ2.

The only advanced technologies are the motherships, the landing ships and a spoiler one, but they all looks quite archaic (compared to Halo) . There is probably several generations of technology between Halo and Killzone.

But the point the article missed is the high difference of hype between Halo 3 and Killzone 2. Halo franchise has a huge fanbase, as much ferocious as Metal Gear Solid ones. If you say that you didn't like Halo/Metal Gear, you're considered as an heretic, it's a blaspheme and no one will consider you as trustful.

Halo 3 also benefited of a huge hype due to the marketing bombing, with probably the biggest budget in gaming marketing (in France, there was even Master Chief that was presenting the weather on TV), with several collector edition that are not a simple steelbox, and with several hundreds dollars bribes, and i'm pretty sure several major gaming sites raised their score due to the content of the "Halo bag".

In comparison, Killzone 2 has almost no fanbase, i can estimate that nearly 80% of the Killzone 2 buyers never played the first Killzone. All the hype of Killzone 2 came from the fact it's a technical monster, with sharp graphics and animations. Due to this powerhouse and its action-only side, Killzone 2 has been considered as a flagship and the hope of all PS3 fans to be considered as a legitimate pretender in the console warfare.

Killzone 2 and Halo 3 can't be compared according to their sales, their scores, their userbase or their lifespan because even if they have common points, they are very different.

[PoSTedUP]

the only reason they are compared is because they both are an exclusive flagship fps game for separate console and are along the lines of the same concept as to being si-fi shooters. they both were are really hyped too. although one has a hystory of being damn good and the other is just trying to prove it self worthy(which it did).

"I simply hated Halo 3 so i prefer not giving my opinion on it."- lol!

[Sangria]

What's so funny? Because i'm someone that didn't like Halo 3 and you are that kind of people that consider it as an heresy?

[PoSTedUP]

lol nah dude i just thought that was funny what u said. why so serious? : P

[Wvortices]

I can't compare Halo 3 to KZ2 because I stopped playing Halo after the first one. To me it was lame but I know my roommate was way into the online which was unique in its day. KZ2 will have no equal in the FPS genre for a long time to come. Studios will try to copy what has been achieved and many will be fooled but accept no substitute. My jaw is still on the floor but enough people know that now. I also love uncharted and can't wait for the sequel but there has been nothing as intense and visceral as KZ2. Waiting for my girlfriend to finish her movie so I can continue my trophy hunt.

[PoSTedUP]

halo is a more pick up and go game wile KZ2 you would have to have a taste for realistic badass intence bloody gameplay. : )

[ultimatek1]

Fanboy wars start with reviews or comments like yours(author):

“A technical powerhouse, Killzone looks to stand up to any FPS on consoles that stands in its way”

You can’t compare both of them. Halo 3 visuals are more cartoonish, were killzone is more realistic. Killzone 2 doesn’t even have a hero. It doesn’t bring new gameplay to this generation. Killzone 2 only shines for its visuals, and I awknowledge that. But to compare both of them is to dishonor both of them. Gears and COD visuals are realistic, and both of them are awesome triple A’s titles, killzone should be compared to them. In the end… I don’t even think killzone will made it to double A title, not until 2010.

Killzone 2 is a great game, I like it. But I prefer to play COD, Gears and Halo 3. I Buyed a Ps3 only for killzone and I feel ripped. After $500 spent I don’t see where this game raises the bar, by having good visuals doesn’t raises a bar, a good game must have all its attributes raised to be able to raise the bar, not only visually.Still Im happy cuz of the Blue ray.

The author is flaming fanboy wars, And with those kind of statements, it only feel as he hates MS or Halo, either way, any1 can tell he is a fanboy.

[PoSTedUP]

it says ANY fps on consoles and even mentions cod4. your opinion is your opinion and his opinion is his opinion.

KZ2 brought the fps cover system. the realistic feel and gameplay. the online mode where it has a whole bunch of different game modes simultaneously with no stoppage in game play (correct me if im wrong) but i haven't seen that anywhere.

@ ultamtek below.- reli? i think your trippin man lol.

[Ldubbz]

stop? Really, Killzone doesnt have the pedigree to even rub shoulders with the likes of Halo, not yet at least.

(Prepares for storm of disgrees)---Even Halo's graphics are superior if you ask me. Textures in KZ2 tend to get muddy as hell, while Halo still has some of the best texture work around. Explosions look better, much better level design, actual variety in the enemy design and weaponry and vehicles. Add the phenomenal HDR lighting that Halo has and its a done deal for me. But then again I am a Halo fanboy....lol

But seriously, KZ2 is cool and all, but lets not put it against the big dog because it will get its feelings hurt. this isnt about Sony vs MS for me; this is about one of the best franchises in gaming versus the newcomer...that had to get its controls tweaked pretty much immediately.

Remember...1 BILLION Halo 3 matches. Billion. Case rested.

[ZuperAmazingCooKie]

So a game is better because it sells better? You remind me of a retard on this website that goes by the name of Omega4.

[ultimatek1]

but i haven't seen that anywhere? man play a 360 all u said is wrong, all u said has been brought by halo 3 and gears

[STONEY4]

"all u said has been brought by halo 3 and gears"

Nope... what PoSTedUP said was not brought by Gears of War and Halo 3

"KZ2 brought the fps cover system."

Gears and Halo 3 don't have an FPS cover system. Halo 3 isn't an FPS. and the 1st game to have a cover system was Kill.switch on the PS2.

"the realistic feel and gameplay."

Tell me what is realistic about Halo 3 and Gear of War? Halo 3 is not even close to realistic gameplay. And Gear of War doesn't have a realistic feel.

"the online mode where it has a whole bunch of different game modes simultaneously with no stoppage in game play (correct me if im wrong) but i haven't seen that anywhere."

PoSTedUP, as far as I know, that's never been in a game before. ultimatek1, that is not in Halo 3 or Gear of War. In those 2 games, you can't be playing capture the flag (search and retrieve in Killzone 2) for 5 minutes then after those 5 minutes are over or the goal score is reached, the game immediately switches to another gametype, like team deathmatch (body count in Killzone 2) with no loading screens or gameplay hitches. It's completely seamless.

Now what would be cooler is if the maps could switch on the fly too, like everything disintegrated and the pieces of the new map would all put together in place. But that's just a hope for Killzone 3.

[IWentBrokeForGaming]

all Killzone 2 has over Halo 3 is = graphics, free online, more players (32) in multiplayer, customizable classes, and cooler multiplayer maps

Halo 3 has = co-op, 4 player split screen offline or 4 people can join into online matches off of 1 360 console, more multiplayer game options, forge (the tweaking of original maps to make them your own), more original/diverse types of multiplayer maps, video/picture capture of your fav. moments in multiplayer, customizable avatar, dual wielding weapons, far larger options of weaponry, mobile turrets, way more vehicals to interact with in campaign and multiplayer (I only drove a tank in the 1st level of KZ2 and it drove like s#!t, and rode on the back of a warthog wanna-be that you can't even use the gun! to Radec's tower.. nothing outside of it and that's where I last saved and quit), etc..

Overall I think Halo 3 supplies more options to the players, but Killzone 2 has its own varietys.

When Im alone I play Killzone 2 the most, when I have multiple friends over my house Halo 3 is the party game!

it's just a matter of preference, just like any game... plain and simple!!!

[OOG]

true enough its all personal preference like you said

[Mindsucker]

you are truly blessed.. ha

[commodore64]

Killzone 2
http://www.metacritic.com/g...
91

Halo 3
http://www.metacritic.com/g...
94

So... yeah. They are comparable.

[slak]

both have there up and downs

[spike]

Killzone 2 better than Halo 3. Yes. I have both. Online NO. I just like the health metter better on Halo 3. Killzone 2 has very good online though. The campaign in Killzone 2 is awesome. Just passed the desert level, and im loving it right now. Halo 3 campaign sucked in my opinion.

[PoSTedUP]

i like realistic games more. halo i wasn't digging how many clips it takes to kill a dude and then the auto aim makes it even more cheaper in my opinion. cod4 has a slight autoaim which i wasn't happy about but KZ2 just makes it so its all skill involved with out the help of auto aim.

[caffman]

because the setting, weapons, people and ways of curing people in KZ2 are SOOOOO realistic!

[Slinger420]

I bought Halo 3 when I first got my 360. I figured Gears of War was hyped as hell and that was awesome so with the massive hype behind Halo 3 and my love for FPS it would be perfect. I was way off. I thought the campaign was terrible and after playing Call of Duty 4, the multiplayer was average at best. Now Killzone 2, the single player campaign felt like a mixture of COD with Gears, freaking awesome. I haven't really got into the Multiplayer, only played one round but I can tell it was almost on par with Call of Duty. In my opinion, Killzone 2 is way better in terms of graphics, gameplay, gunplay, multiplayer, sound, on screen action, level design, and weaponry. It's almost like comparing a last generation game to Killzone 2. The only games that compare to Killzone 2 in terms of FPS action and immersion is Call of Duty, that's it.

[Kornholic]

Halo 3 was never accused of having ZERO innovation. Bungie advertised a game they didnt even care to make.

Halo 3 got away with ugly, sub-HD graphics and a hell of a boring story.

I don't even want to compare Killzone 2 to Halo 3 because it would be an insult towards Guerilla Games.

[Arnon]

Halo 3 has had more support from the developers than any other console game to date. I'm pretty sure Bungie is delighted to have made a masterpiece.

Also, HD = Anything above 480p. Which is Standard Definition.

And the story of Halo 3 defeats Killzone 2's story in every aspect. But it is subjective to the gamer, I guess.

[ZuperAmazingCooKie]

Halo 3 can't compete, it just happens that press outlets risk their personal economics by not adhering to Microsoft's strict rules of marketing and publicity.

[gameman]

of course everyone here knows that and that's the truth too bad for you xbots the only thing is making halo 3 sells like that is the hype that the game has and also the media while if you really see the game it's he same old halo they even didn't bother themselves to put in 720P so shut your mouth and get over it, Sony really did a great job and also lot's of hard work with killzone 2 to make it a masterpiece so don't you dare compare it with a copy paste game like halo 3 the only great halo was the first one others are just a copy paste in everything i swear to god if i turn halo 1 on and halo 3 beside it you will never tell what is the difference they look the same

[blackbeld]

^^^^^^^^^ Agree.. true gamers will agree you like i do... +bubble

[Shane Kim]

Haha best comment ever. Halo 3 was a copy/paste game like gameman said. The only new thing was the story.

Don't believe me?

This is Halo 3 http://www.winhelpline.info...

And this is Halo 2 http://www.bungie.net/image...

Some small changes in textures. That's all.

[gameman]

who want's to play a game of (find the 10 deference between the two PIC's )

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Halo 3 has a higher score and 9 million gamers that play it :)

[Graphics Whore]

Yes, a whole 3 decimal points. It constitutes as greatness doesn't it dumbass and then you use vgchartz.com even bigger dumbass.

Xbox Fanboys are the dumbest. Sony fanboys spew garbage, but Xbox fanboys are honest to goodness retarded.

[gameman]

yeah sure 9M are playing halo whatever you say

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

http://www.vgchartz.com/gam... 9 million :)

[fishyjoes]

Why is it giving sales number up to the 10th week when this game hasn'te even been out that long

oh my bad i thought that was halo wars :P thanks for pointing that out

[caffman]

its been out for a year and a half!

[wardende]

It is a pre-requisite for a big release to have co-op these days, that is why Killzone 2 pales in comparison to Gears 2 and Halo 3.

Good ol' Sony Fanboys, last place in the next gen console wars and last place in the handheld wars, but they are still happy that they reckon they have better graphics when all 360 owners know that's blatantly not true.

but but but 360 was out a year early!! SO WHAT?!?! you dont get a handicap because you cant get your console out on time!!

PS3 will finish this gen in last place, from hero to zero in one gen, give yourself a pat on the back Sony fanboys, for supporting a failing console. Blu-ray players are coming down in price now so there's no real reason to have a PS3. All 360 exlusives and multi plats are better on 360, and tend to get released with extra features...

Now Sony fanboys --- hit me with all those things you like to rave about, all the superior hardware you have that no1 likes developing for and no1 can make games look as good as 360 games...

[HelghastKid]

hm my first post at n4g! k here i go...
@ wardende
Killzone pales in comparison to halo and gears because it lacks co-op? if thats the case Gears pales in comparison because it has broken online which im positive is more important than co-op.

"Good ol' Sony Fanboys, last place in the next gen console wars and last place in the handheld wars, but they are still happy that they reckon they have better graphics when all 360 owners know that's blatantly not true."

Oh and please name me a game on 360 that has better graphics than KZ2...yea you cant

"but but but 360 was out a year early!! SO WHAT?!?! you dont get a handicap because you cant get your console out on time!!"

Actually the ps3 came out on time, the 360 came out ahead of schedule and guess what you guys got? RROD... happy birthday timmy:(...

"PS3 will finish this gen in last place, from hero to zero in one gen.

I can tell you right now that sony will definately pass 360 in sales. Not that it really matters since i play my systems for the games not the sales.

"give yourself a pat on the back Sony fanboys, for supporting a failing console."

So what console were you supporting last year? Must have been the PS2 since you dont support failing consoles....

You know what i think? I think you must have just been sarcastic and forgot to put /sarcasm cus no one can type something as stupid as:
Now Sony fanboys --- hit me with all those things you like to rave about, all the superior hardware you have that no1 likes developing for and no1 can make games look as good as 360 games...
That or your just stupid as hell... BTW i gave you that disagree

[onyxbox]

they're both great games... move on.

[Ryudo]

Wrong post sorry although I am looking forward to getting killzone 2 to just get a little on track.

[Re-versed]

So u expect a number(reviews) to match on how u feel for a game?????

Just try many very popular games in meta and youll discover that the rate of these games doesnt express u at all..Thats it!!

If the personal preference tells that HALO 3 is better on your hands than KZ2, then you just have to follow it...Thats it...Nothing more,nothing less...

BUT!!!! You MUST first of all recognize if u have ever play KZ2, that it OBJECTIVELY surpass Halo 3 in EVERY WAY!!I repeat...OBJECTIVELY...There is no comparison between a graphical,sound-wise,AI-wise, multiplayer not downgraded from SP-wise, game... with a Free passer rating-wise,game that HALO is...HALO 3 is the most overhyped game EVER...Thats is clearly OBJECTIVE...I am wondering constantly, why everyone compares these 2 games...

[Mindsucker]

comparing pop rock to Anarcho punk just not going to attract the same crowd. but there are the few that will like both and they are truly blessed

[streety519a]

I played Killzone 2 on my friends PS3 and its made me buy the console as I can now finally afford to. but I still prefer halo 3 multiplayer. does that make me an idiotic fanboy? no, its just a personal preference, and I think a lot of you need to realise that just because someone likes a game you don't need to impose your flawed fanboy logic onto them. I bet a lot of you haven't even played both games. and stop with the graphical comparisons. using that logic means Zelda Ocarina of Time and Doom 2 are awful games that nobody should ever play. I wish people on this website would start actually playing games and discussing them properly rather than "killzone rulez". why does it rule? Are your opinions any more valid than everyone elses?

[farhad2k8]

No, because halo is not the game it should be compared to.
Halo is minor, who wants to compare major to minor?
Killzone 2 is better than halo in every aspect.
End of story.

[Arnon]

Killzone 2 has set the bar for console graphics. It is by far, one of THE best looking games ever created.

But.. since we are comparing it to Halo, I can say, without a doubt, that Halo's story, content, and support of multiplayer (types of versus, maps, forge, theater, etc.) completely blow away Killzone 2. And yes, I've done everything in both the story and multiplayer of both games.

Killzone 2 offers a handful of weapons (multiplayer wise) that all really just do the same thing.

-M4 Revolver
-STA18 Pistol
-M82 Assault Rifle
-STA52 Assault Rifle
-STA11 Sub-Machine Gun
-STA3 Light Machine gun
-M224-A1 Light Machine Gun
-M194 Frag Grenade
-M327 Grenade Launcher
-VC9 Missile Launcher
-M80 Rocket Launcher
-VC32 Sniper Rifle
-Proximity Mines

-10 ranks in the entire game
-8 maps out of the box (subject to change later)

vs.

-Assault Rifle
-Battle Rifle
-Beam Rifle
-Brute Shot
-Covenant Carbine
-Energy Sword
-Firebomb
-Flame Thrower
-Frag Grenade
-Fuel Rod Gun
-Gravity Hammer
-Machine Gun Turret
-Magnum
-Missle Pod
-Needler
-Plasma Cannon
-Plasma Grenade
-Plasma Pistol
-Plasma Rifle
-Rocket Launcher
-Sentinel Beam
-Shotgun
-Sniper Rifle
-Spartan Laser
-Spike Grenade
-Spiker
-Bomb
-Flag
-Oddball
-Ghost
-Banshee
-Scorpion Tank
-Wraith
-Warthog
-Hornet
-Mongoose

-50 ranks for each mode of versus
-24 maps total

Now, mind you Killzone 2 actually offers about 20 weapons total. Yet they took away about 7 of them. What they could have done was put in the 1-hitter-quitter weapons from the campaign, and just reduced their damage and given them a certain amount of ammo (for the electricity gun).

Killzone 2's story was also only 6 hours long on normal mode for me. Halo 3's story took me 8-10 hours on normal mode.

So In conclusion, Killzone 2 is absolutely amazing. It has set the bar for console FPS.. In graphics. Halo 3's story length(and script), Multiplayer, and overall content completely dominate Killzone 2's. (And if you want to be more technical.. so do it's scores and sales)

[Kornholic]

All those extra weapons are worthless when you have to shoot at least one clip to kill an enemy.

Halo's story and all of its content is ripped out of someone's asshole.

[Arnon]

"All those extra weapons are worthless when you have to shoot at least one clip to kill an enemy."

-Assault Rifle - Less than half a clip
-Battle Rifle - 2-3 bursts to the head
-Beam Rifle - 1 (2 to the body)
-Brute Shot - 3
-Covenant Carbine - 3-4 headshots
-Energy Sword - 1-2
-Firebomb - 1
-Flame Thrower - ???
-Frag Grenade - 1-2
-Fuel Rod Gun - 1-2
-Gravity Hammer - 1
-Machine Gun Turret - ???
-Magnum - 1 shot to the head when shield is down.
-Missle Pod - 1-2
-Needler - 3-4
-Plasma Cannon - ???
-Plasma Grenade - 1
-Plasma Pistol - 1-2
-Plasma Rifle - ???
-Rocket Launcher - 1
-Sentinel Beam - ???
-Shotgun - 1-2
-Sniper Rifle - 1 (2 in the body)
-Spartan Laser - 1
-Spike Grenade - 1
-Spiker - 7-9?
-Bomb - 1-2
-Flag - 1-2
-Oddball 1-2
-Ghost - 1
-Banshee - 1
-Scorpion Tank - 1
-Wraith - 1
-Warthog - 1
-Hornet - 1
-Mongoose - 1-2

??? = Not exactly sure how to calculate kill/ammo ratio.

Not really sure where you're getting your info from. There's only 3 explanations to what you posted.

1) You suck horribly at Halo.
2) You've never played Halo.
3) You've never played Killzone 2. Cause the statement applies heavily.

And no. Halo 3's story script and even the length of the story dominate Killzone 2. The fact that you actually think Killzone's story (one of the main complaints from 85% of reviewers) is actually one to be recognized.. is sad. Though I guess it's all subjective.

[cliffbo]

now we're comparing reviews! let go people, Halo is no longer the rule of thumb, KZ2 is

[Firstkn1ghT]

Overall Halo 3 is just a better game. Better story, better weapon and level variety. Better enemy variety. Better multiplayer modes. KZ2 is just another war shooter that plays exactly the same as every other war shooter before it with weak story, weak selection of weapons, and weak variety of enemy. It's no wonder that Halo 3 is rated a lot higher than KZ2.

[Kornholic]

In order for you to say that you would actually have to play Killzone 2 before making any statements considering the game. Last time I checked Kilzone 2 only for PS3 :)

[Arnon]

No.. actually he would not. That is what the internet is for.

[andron]

They are both fruit, but beyond that they are very different. They can be fresh or old, damaged or smelly.

There are a lot of factors to take into consideration when you decide which you like and which you dislike. It's all up to personal preference and taste.

Maybe you like both or neither....