Resistance is the long standing king of PlayStation 3, but it didn't get there without a few obstacles on its way. The bad news is that Killzone 2 just jumped into an identical pool of problems.
The Problem- They aren`t on the 360? For real though, Killzone is miles beyond R2 in alot of ways. The only things Killzone2 needs are, a party system and be able to view the match settings before you enter the game, besides that it DWARFS any MP experience.
...they just patched all these things today. Guerilla Games just Killzowned this article.
And you don't see match settings before you end up playing a match?
I want both features, and I don't understand why they are not in MP. I shouldn't have to join the game just to see the settings. GG is doing a good job so I have my fingers crossed. It would be nice to know what classes have been disabled before I join a match.
Did you ignore what KapedKrusader said or is it just untrue what he said? I haven't been on Killzone all day(still in college) so I don't know
They never mentioned, not being able to see the match settings before you join, being a problem so no it hasn't changed. They also never mentioned not being able to invite friends to your match as being a problem so it too has not been changed. My only two minor problems with MP. Nothing that has stopped me from playing though. EDIT: KapedKrusader is right just about everything mentioned in the article was patched today. Here is the list -Stability issue regarding randomly named games resolved. -Stability fix when rapidly tapping (X) can cause crash on spawn-select. -Stability issue regarding Saboteur’s disguise ability resolved. -Stability fix on ‘Creating game’ with a blank name. -Stability fix for repeatedly entering exiting game. -The Ignore list functionality corrected. -Unlock of “Frontrunner” Medal now functioning correctly. -Fix for incorrect award of win to clan not showing for game resolved. -Battle Replay for Corinth Crossing not appearing correctly on www.killzone.com. -Issue with not being able to defuse the Search and Destroy objective resolved. -HUD issue correction during Assassination mode when playing as a Medic. -Controller input tweaks and modifications. -Fix for auto-lock on of shotgun exploit. -Fix for D-Charge issues in Campaign mode
Some improvements to the experience are just icing on the cake now, since the online is better than cod already.
The only thing I want for KZ2 at this time is DLC/Map Pack's etc.
This is just a pathetic arguement for childish fanboys to fight over.I have a 360 and i wouldn't trade it for a ps3 for anything but i give credit where credit is due.KZ 2 and R 1&2 are good games and i wish they were on the 360.On the other hand i don't like MGS and LBP.The fact is that KZ2 and R 1&2 are all good games.If i owned a ps3 and i owned these games i wouldn't even reply to this article.The fact is that they all are good games and no one can change that.Just like halo it's a good game to no matter what people say.Every game have some kind of problem with them.Their isn't a game that was made that was perfect.I don't think that any game deserve a perfect score.Fanboys should just start acting like gamefans instead of children.They all should just admitt that the ps3 and 360 are both good systems with good and bad games on them and move on.They should also admitt that they both have positive and negative things about them.Neither system is perfect like fanboys claim,people that claim this are just bias fanboys who isn't honest.Instead they act like morons.They act like the system they have is the greatest thing since god.They act like all the games on their system is better then the other.They also act like the other system doesn't have any good games and claim that every one is over rated and they sux.Their isn't 1 gamefan that could say they hate all the games on the other system without lieing.
first of all...i rarely use the shotgun...i'm not very good with it...so i'm not defending it simply because I like to use it (as most RL users do)... the shotgun in killzone 2 imo is simply perfect...I don't know what this guy is talking about with it having tons of range...it has realistic range and accuracy, as a choked combat shotgun would...but its hardly a one hit kill weapon from anything beyond 5 feet, unless they manage to plant it on your face... what I simply dont' get about people whining about shotguns is that they almost always say 'he killed me when I was close, but I wasn't THAT close'...whatever...the shotgun SUCKS at anything above 10 feet...won't take more than a tenth of your health away from that range...if you are inside of that...you'll get split in half...which is exactly what a shotgun needs to do...shut you up faster than any other weapon at close range...and be a steaming pile at distant enemies... if you are getting killed a lot by shotgun wielders...pay attention to what you are doing...I almost guarantee its because you are mindlessly charging at people trying to get in close to land more shots from your AR or whatever weapon...once you get decent at engaging enemies from a distance, and not letting people get right up on you (either by you rushing them, or letting them get close to you)...you will have no problems with shotgun users... most of that for me involved learning the maps...when you don't know where you are, and where enemies will most likely come from...its very hard to prevent someone from getting in close...but once you know the environments, there is little excuse for getting popped by a shotgun all the time...
I'm really tired of people complaining about controls. It has WEIGHT and MOMENTUM. It's not twitch based. It's slightly slower and you just need to adjust to them after awhile. You're gamers man, adapt. As for the shotgun thing. Some guys i was playing with got mad because i was taking them out with the shotgun because i was playing as engineer and trying to get the secondary badge. So you know what they did? They all started using rocket launchers. And they were Generals while i was a 3 striper. Now i don't mind that much that they brought out rockets but they complained a sh*t ton because they died alot from my shotgun. I'm trying to get the secondary badge and trap them off with my sentries by doling out some damage with shotty and letting the sentry take care of the rest. Since the sentries pretty much suck by themselves and they aren't like TF2 sentries you have to weaken people just to have the sentries kill them.
I hate when people bring out the grenade launcher or rocket launchers because they are losing, half the time they dont go any better with them out but its just annoying because sometimes you will die when you would have had a chance to kill them them and keep going, and it is usually brought out with a lot of crying and complaining.
A party system is much needed. Also, if your going to reduce the damage on the shotgun the firing rate needs to be increased, that or just reduce it's range. Otherwise no one is going to use it.
omg this article is full of bs, resistance 2 shotgun is aweful you have to be within 5 feet of someone to get a 1 hit kill with double barrel and i can only speak for myself when i say ive never had any connection issues with either game
Needing the party system I agree with, the controls "problem" I do not. I have had no problem with the controls since I picked it up. Sure, it was an adjustment at first, but if they weren't different than COD controls I would have been disappointed. The connection issues have not been a problem for me. As for the shotgun, all I can say is become more tactical, because if you get shot with a shotgun in real life, that is about what it will be like.
Man this title is so stupid. WTF same problems? He says that Resistance needed fine tunned multiplayer. But thats not the same as controls... The controls for KZ2 is perfect. Just because its different from COD doesnt make it bad. Overpowered shotgun my ass. I dont know about you but if someone would come up to me with a shotgun i wouldn't be able to take more than 1 hit. Even so it is usless at long range so there forth not Overpower. This site obviously only wants viewers. Stupid...
I know that the Lightning Gun on KZ2 was actually an idea taken from Arc Charger on Resistance.I wonder if Insomniac and Guerrilla made a swtich
I cannot believe this. R2 has fewer lag than any xbox online game to date and has 60 player matches. R2 controls are fine and well done not to mention the SERVER LISTS anyone who wants to act like a random game you have limited control of going into as a party system is better than a server list is a complete moron. R2 alone blows most fps games out of the water and Killzone 2 has had very little launch issues making one of the best launches this gen period. The only thing wrong with these two games is that the author cant appreciate them because they arent using a laggy p2p networking system that can barely support 16 players and it doesnt use some crappy xbox matchmaking Woopdie fing doo douche I think halo2+3 and gears share similar laggy p2p networking (for the love of god msoft cant even spend the cash for some dedicated servers and you have the gall to bring in this sh#t?) and a no server list option. WHERE THE HELL ARE THE ARTICLES ON THAT?
1. The Kz2 shotguns are just right, go shove ur finger up your @ss. 2. I haven't had any connection problems. 3. If you put the two options out, say one option is R2 style (the gameplay is perfect) and then one with Kz2 style, the ones with R2 style would have the upper hand because they can aim quicker and more smoothly, so that just renders it useless.
That this PS3Center.com site is really an anti-PS3 site disguised as a PS3 fan site. It posts so many articles that cast the PS3 in a bad light or just how they word things.
after reading the article the other day and now this one...you can tell they are anti ps3 and just use the name to get hits because the 360 is starting to lose momentum. gameplay wise, i wouldnt change a thing with Kz2. some user interface and stability functions need to be fixed but the game is already cherry. dont mess with perfection. if ps3center werent some no name kids site they could afford better internet and wouldnt have any connection issues. article fail along with the site
I thought 360 fanboys were bad but you two just put icing on the fanboy cake. A site posing as a 360 site? Just cust they dont glorifi every little thing about ps3? In the end of the article does it not say "im sure GG is on top of it" AND "here is to the great future ahead"? Come on....It takes a true fan to admit mistakes and help make games better, unlike the real kids (you guys) that just think everything with Sony's name on it is god. If this article so so wrong and complete bs like you guys say then why the hell did GG fix ALL OF IT? Honestly? Everything listed in this article was FIXED BY GG! So your saying GG is anti PS3 too? GG is secretly a 360 developer making poorly made games to get 360 going with its slumping sales? Honestly go look into things and actually read articles and knock some common sense into your fanboy heads before you post such idiotic things. Maybe you need better internet to get the full article loaded and a thing called a job to pay for it instead of asking mommy to upgrade?
I never had one single connection issue. Gameplay is fine. The shotguns are way to overpowered, that is true, just like GOW
As for the KZ2 shotgun, people are literally just playing like idiots. If you have a rifle and you see your opponent coming at you with a shottie...fukin back up while you shoot! People are playing this game like it's COD where the M16 can easily beat a shotgun at close range. Sorry, but in this game, each gun actually has its own effective range.
Shotguns range is way to big. As soon as you see someone with a shotty you are pretty much dead, you cant back up fast enough. I got killz with the shotty from such a distance it was lol funny
well, ok i have not read the full article simply because i have a ps3 and have played both games so i have my own opinion on the debate. killzone is so much better then RFOM 2 i don't even no where to start. i know i have said this before and got loads of disagrees but i just have to say it. when i got gears 2 i thought gears was rubbish ( infact i still do ) so because of all the fanboy talk about RFOM 2 being better, well i went and got it. i Played it, finished it, tried all the game modes online and took it back. i was not impressed at all. both gears and resistance 2 are way overrated in my book. killzone is 10 x better then both of them put together. all games have problems - well most, but killzone outdoes RFOM 2 in everyway i can think of. i leave it at that.
Oh, the shotgun. The weapon of people with little to no skill.
Shotty newbs! There are times when using the shotty is just good tactics. Then there are those who can't get a kill any other way I pick these players off as they are the weaker of the herd. National Geographic taught me sooo much.
is hindering me right now. network error code:8013 when playing kz2. hopefully as they beef up the servers it'll get better for me, but nothing more worse than racking up points only to have them drop after losing your connection :/
every gun in every game ever made is underpowered compaired to reality
R2 was subpar but KZ2 is leagues above R2. Nough said.
Meh R2 let you map the buttons to just about whatever you wanted. No one had to be concerned about whether they liked the defaults or other presets, you could change them at will. Killzone 2 needs this (full button mapping), and toggle crouch in single player.
sure they're both fps but they're different from one another. there are no problems online. maybe the author was still using a 26kb dial up modem :P shotguns? the shot gun on kz2 was too weak. i had to shoot someone twice in close range sometimes gameplay? they're both different as well.
Weird that they mention connection issues. I've never been dropped out of a game or have the game end prematurely. It might be a problem on your end. Out of 60-70 hours that I've played online now I haven't ran into these problems except for the shotgun.
Google killzone network error code:8013. I know it's not my connection for the simple reason when I pull up the xmb after getting kicked from the kz2 servers I still show as connected to PSN. Hopefully this upcoming patch will fix that.
I've actually had zero problems with connections, you can get on a game right away, no waiting as far as I've experienced anyways The shotgun to me doesn't seem overpowered you a good close head shot for instant kill and that just makes sense, but at least 2 body shots and I didn't think it had that much range so the article seems ass backwards, for my first PS3 online experience I'm impressed
Obviously Resistance 2 was a poser...I bet you that game does not sell close to the original. Part reason, there are other shooters out and the other, the original was a launch title that was also bundled. I also heard some prefer the original.
"Connection Issues Resistance suffered this a great deal until Insomniac did some behind the scenes works. The servers were loaded as more people jumped on making the game harder to stay connected too. Killzone 2 seems to be suffering the same type of issues. Games are randomly disconnecting, but unlike Resistance, the stats don't save so you are left empty handed. When the problem occurs several times while playing online. It takes away the motivation for people to keep playing. The game also lags without disconnections, similar to that of Resistance, where enemies will randomly freeze then suddenly die leaving you with a random death of your own. These issues are getting better as GG are updating their servers so hopefully it wont be a problem at all very soon!" OK maybe it's just me I have played KZ2 MP tons..........I have NEVER HAD ANY ISSUES with finding a game being disconnected from a game or LAG....no LAG...absolutely positively no LAG..at least not yet.. I bring up LAG...because when I came to work today after spending five days home chillin and playing KZ..I was tellin my buddy how no matter how much $h*t is going on in KZ MP there is no LAG..I am Playin in the US using Comcast....Never not ANYTIME has there been LAG..Which has FLOORED ME...as much crap that is going on at any moment...I have yet to witness any LAG or issues entering any games.. For the record KZ offers the sickest MP experience to date...and I am lucky not to endure any LAG or FAILING TO ENTER A GAME OR FIND ONE....and I have been playing since launch day...So I do not understand the LAG complaint!!!....
The only problem is that they are both awesome games. Now stop writing nonsense and go play these fine games until your eyes are bleeding.
That didn't have some kind of online server problem. It's a crazy game to play, and definitely my favorite FPS.
Before the patch after 26 hours of playing I only got 1 disconnect.
What a stupid article.
People complaining about the weapons. Shotgun - Close up weapon of choice, Don't believe me, stand infront of one in real life. Bang, most of your body would be in tatters, aim it at your head, you won't have one. At present alot of people are using shotgun, because they also use bots, which is what alot of people are on skill wise, those with gigantic scores got them through playing bots to rack up xp. That's no skill. Machine gun's - The weapon of either, through the scope or fire blindly. Scope is more skillful, but alot of kills are to be head firing blindly. Sniper - Camp - headshot, it's alot easier then you think. Move on. Camp headshot. I don't expect to hit every shot. Now considering that most of the maps of quite tight, SG is actually the best weapon. in a 32player server, it does well. OK heres the thing. KILLZONE2 is new. People are trying to get more xp, get more badges, get more weapons, get more of everything. So as you've guessed there's alot of nade spamming, we all do it. I'm hoping once alot of it has settled down, it'll be more tactical. My best momment in MP. I placed explosives, got away with a team member, as we're running along. Sniper takes off his head and it rolls infront of me. I wish i had a demo of it. Still it's a great game, and i think it'll get better and better as time goes on.
but damn is it addicting, i just played probably 6 hours straight
Killzone 2 is INSANE!!!! It doesn't matter what anyone says about it, K2 is a great game, easily worthy of legendary status. (Calm down, I am not saying it's the only legend, however, it is in the league of Crysis, Gears, Halo, Half-Life, and Call of Duty...AND I DON'T CARE WHAT THE SALES SAY!!!) many would agree that Crysis, the crown jewel FPS on the PC, is still the graphical king. (Killzone 2 is VERY close, and by far the BEST console offering to date!) On this generation of console shooters, K2 is outstanding, and the PS3's Cell Processor is serving notice. I loved the 1st Halo and Gears, and from a console stand point, Killzone 2 is right there with them. In fact, Killzone 2 is destroying these two in the areas of Graphics, Physics (NOTICE HOW THE SOLDERS FALL WHEN SHOT!!!), A.I., Call of Duty-style upgrades, and multiplayer map design. (Halo 1 and Gears both had a slight edge in the campaign mode.) Bottom line, Killzone 2 is SICK. It should get the respect that it deserves, because it has raised the bar beyond anything other console shooters has shown. P.S., the shotgun, as well as all the other wepons, is excellent!! The shotgun in Halo is just the same, why do you think campers run to it all the time? SHUT UP, HATERS!!!
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