DLB-Network writes: Sony's PlayStation 3 has been going for 2 Years and 3 Months and has already reached a milestone of 20 Million PlayStation Network accounts. View rest of the Press Release there.
considering microsofts thing counts the people online with the original xbox as well i'd say its doing mighty fine
do they also count silver memberships too?? if so then xbox fanboys cant really say anything about PS3 owners having more than PSN accounts because people can have more silver accounts... i personally have 3 different gamertags- 1 gold and 2 silvers
having more then 1 account is for both sides, 360 and ps3...and both companies count this so...all fair game baby
btw, welcome to the console of the future.
yes micorsoft counts silver...but the difference here is that 56% of live members pay for Gold..and that PSN accounts are all free and counted all together between 21 millions ps3's ,50+ millions psp's and their website accounts.
XBL isn't doing to bad for a paid service, but with psn you can make as many accounts as you have emails, if you want to give me a disagree go look in home and see all the accounts with 0 trophies. *edit* ahh i see disagrees, we have ps3 owners on this site who don't own a ps3 obviously. *edit* for the disagrees. look all I'm trying to say is the numbers could be inflated a bit, cause that's rather close to total systems sold http://n4g.com/industrynews...
Don't forget the accounts created because of dead 360's and inability to transfer data initially.
No doubt impressive, and yes Micrsoft when talking about x-box live accounts includes both silver and gold memberships, so it is indeed very nice.
Damn..wrong reply..now i have to think of something relevant to say.. Yeah! PSN for the win !
Don't forget the Games for Windows Live memberships. All five of them.
Unfortunately Sony could have 50 million PSN registered accounts and they still won't be making the millions of XBL yearly fee's. I'd expect XBL members to be around 14 million + 14 million * 50 = a buttload of money for MS
"Don't forget the accounts created because of dead 360's and inability to transfer data initially. " Errrrm...I am not trolling, but I'm guessing you don't own a 360? The Hard Drive can detach from the console easily and plugged into a completely different 360, complete with all of the data (including gamertags). It doesn't matter if the original 360 died, your gamertag was never ever lost. The only problem was to do with DRM issues with your DLC. Even if, for some reason, you couldn't use the same hard drive, you could always "recover" a gamertag onto a new system, you just didn't get your save and game data.
You may have multiple accounts, but you only have 1 IP address. They link IP addresses with the accounts. Accounts with the same IP addresses are counted only once, so you are a fool if you believe these numbers include multiple accounts. Whats there not to believe? PSN is free and everyone who buys a PS3 will sign up for it because of that. No profit? They made 1 million dollar profit on the first day HOME was released. PSN is going to crush XBOX LIVE like a giant stepping on a cokcroach.
Well, I have three LIVE accounts and three PSN accounts, so if they are all being counted at least they are on equal footing. PSN is an awesome service and I really enjoy that I don't have to deal with the hassle and expense of paying for it.
@kushan - I think he is talking about when you want to upragde HDD, it was hard to transfer data from HDD to the other. 20 Million is a pretty big milstone, especially considering only a month ago they said it was 17 million! But yeah multiple accounts are most likely the reason, I myself have 4 accounts Japanese, US, UK and Australian.
@lalalala It was never hard to upgrade to a new Hard drive, when MS released the elite and 120Gb HDDs, they also released a transfer cable. I believe the cable came with the standalone HDD and if you bought an elite, you could phone up MS to get one for free.
"No profit? They made 1 million dollar profit on the first day HOME was released. PSN is going to crush XBOX LIVE like a giant stepping on a cokcroach" Yes, people spent 1 million on a beta. That has to be a record. According to this article Xbox Live has generated over 1 billion since it came out. According to this data, http://finance.yahoo.com/ne... if 10 million people are gold subscribers that means Xbox Live is now generating 476 million annually or 1.3 million daily. Keep in mind that is not counting DLC of any kind. -Death
More and more like the fankids whipping out their e-pene's and comparing who's is bigger than the other's... Look kids, this is not a big deal for us gamers but rather great news for companies that want to put their games on the network. If I was a publisher and saw that the PSN had 20 million prospective buyers of my game then it would be what I would consider a win for both Sony and the publisher in terms of sales. Let's not get our fankiddie panties in a bunch over this stuff. Play games and leave the numbers to the corporates.
You guys seem to all be talking like psn members are all ps3 owners... you do realize that you don't even need to own a playstation product to create a psn account right? go ahead, sign up whenever you like. Ownership of a ps1, ps2, ps3 or psp is not required. http://uk.playstation.com/r...
damn... didnt they just announce that there were 17 million PSN users couple weeks back?? 3 million increase is amazing in short amount of time 20 million PSN accounts vs. 17 million XBL accounts
Allowing PSP owners to connect to PSN (as well as use their existing PSN IDs established on PS3s) was definitely a smart move. If they push hard enough, I'm sure they'll have 30 million PSN members by the end of this year.
They count multiple accounts, and these are for PS3 and PSP. 20 million out of a 70 million install base. Most PS3 users have different accounts for different games. And the accounts are free to create and use. 17 out of 28 million 360 owners have silver accounts. These are unique and tied to your gamertag. 9.5 million out of those are gold (the ones you pay for). 17 out of 28 million leaves a much higher percentage. Even 9.5 out of 28 leaves a higher percentage than 20 out of 70. http://www.joystiq.com/2009... *edit* @TOSgamer - thx for the heads up.
@2.2 read your own link again carefully. "Though it would not confirm exact numbers, Microsoft did state that the majority of its 17 million current Xbox Live members do have Gold accounts. Assuming last year's percentage has held steady, that's $50 a year from 9.5 million users. No matter how you slice it, that's a lot of teabagging." 17 million xbox live total members. 9.5m to 10m that pay for gold. BTW original xbox + xbox 360 = 52 million owners that could have signed up for Live. Also MS counts multiple accounts as well. And some people do create multiple accounts just to get the 1 free month of Live Gold that comes with it. MS allows up to 3 accounts on the same console that can qualify for the free month of Live Gold. I think its fair to say both sides spin their number into the best light.
More people to own......or get owned by. I just bought SFIV and i'll be online trying to whoop ass with my new Hori stick. Sadly though, I predict i'll be on the receiving end of a few beat downs at first.
"BTW original xbox + xbox 360 = 52 million owners that could have signed up for Live." LOL. They're the same whether they're on the Xbox or the Xbox 360. That's why LIVE is so unified, and that's how I transferred by original Xbox account to my 360.
I know someone is gonna have a comment about how many accounts they have on the psn. If they were smart enough to think before they posted it they would know that alot of people have multiple accounts on Xbox live so sony is doing damn good. Plus they have all the psps out there to have people purchase games off the psn store
this is great news, that's almost 1 account per PS3. Of course we all know even PSP owners can get a PSN account too, but 20 Million is a big number regardless :)
Yes it's a wonderful milestone for the ps3 and Sony indeed. I'm just happy there's plenty of people on the Playstation Network for me to destroy tomorrow when i pick up Killzone 2 here in Australia lol. Man i wish i could go to the midnight launch but i have to go to college 8:00AM sharp. The day will go extremely slow for me tomorrow just thinking about it finally being in my hands.
You helgast scum you live in Australia Ahhhhhh i want KZ2 now lol enjoy
That's Mr. Helghast scum mate. Yeah i live in Australia and it's actually releasing midnight tonight but i won't be able to make it there. It's currently 7:30PM so not long now. Remember my name because i'll be destroying every single one of you Vekta scums. Your efforts to invade my planet will prove futile, and i shall reward my fallen ancestors with your blood. MWA HA HA MWA HA HA HA HA HAAAAAAAAAA....
WOW that's a BIG number
Who are you telling, that number went up fast.
wonder why everyone is so damn impressed ..taking into consideration that this counts 71 million consoles (ps3=21.3m+ psp=50m) and sony's website accounts 71 millions consoles + Website accounts + Every account is Free = 20 millions PSN accounts do not take it out of context ..great achievement for them anyways!
Microsoft allows people to sign up for a Live account on the PC as well. http://www.xbox.com/en-US/l... But 20 million in 2 years plus change is impressive no matter how you slice it. Edit: Uh yeah, you kinda were in your first post 1.4. You were comparing it to Xbox Live. So lets just say I was responding to your first post. BTW if you really wanna get technical anyone with an original Xbox could have signed up for Live. So its 24m xboxes + 28m 360s = 52 million consoles over 5 years.
You are right ..but I'm not talking about the 360 right now ... I just think that 20m free accounts from 71 millions consoles+website is good but nothing out of this world like some people think..thats it..great achievement anywas!
do most people with a psp actually have a psn account?
PSP owners may be existing PS3 owners who used their existing accounts. Not only that but, PSN on the PSP is still fairly new so you can't take into account 40 million PSP's just yet. BTW what do mean website accounts? If you are talking about Sony's official site and forum, it does not count. The PSN userbase is separate until the user plans to merge accounts.
The question is when will the PlayStation Network start to get better.
And 2.5 added some really good features to the network. It's good right now, but I can see some areas that can still be taken a step further. I'm hoping for a true email system, or application. Sort of like the photo application that got added last month. Being able to record voice messages and email those would be tight as well.
The network is fine the way it is. All I could really suggest is more classic titles for the store, but I am sure Sony will deliver. As far as online gaming goes, I couldn't be happier.
I have seen improvement in the service as well as the features of the PS3 itself from firmware updates to the Playstation store things are getting better and better. the only thing that I feel that needs improving and needs it bad is voice chat, It just doesn't work very well for me compared to the 360. the other thing that could be tweaked is the ability to start a game with your friends. it, to me seems to be a little wonky, and takes a little fiddling to get going.
as my PSN account. i don't understand the whole, "well it's counting PSP and online accounts also." my accounts for Playstation.com is also the same as my PSN account, because i've merged them. maybe i'm missing something. in either case, 20 million is a great number, and it will continue to grow as more folks buy PS3's and more folks get broadband internet connections.
...yeah, you're "missing something". There are more than twice as many PSPs as PS3s, so people thinking this is some great coup for the PS3 is simply bogus. THAT is where this "news" lost it's punch; the PS3 isn't responsible for the majority of that total, yet they started off with: "Sony's PlayStation 3 has been going for 2 Years and 3 Months and has already reached a milestone of 20 Million PlayStation Network accounts." If that's not misleading and bogus, then I don't know what is. :o
How many of those accounts are due to the PSP?
Like I said earlier, you can't take into account 40 million PSP owners just yet because PSN on the PSP is a fairly new feature.
what i'm saying is that i log into my PSP with the same account i use to log into my PSN account. wouldn't that be just one account, and not two? whatever, it's seriously not important. i don't care how many members the PSN has. my account is fine, and i'm enjoying the service on my PS3 and PSP, so whatever. carry on picking apart a press release. i think i'll play Resistance 2 or Little Big Planet online.
Microsoft reported last month that they had 17 million subscribers. Tell any MS fanboy there are more people on and PSN they'll have a fit. Wouldn't surprise me if PSN being free ends up becoming a vastly larger community compared to Live. Besides PSN has only been getting better, and better. Now just give us that cross-game chat already... Edit: Disagreeing eh? It's not like I said PSN is better than live or that it HAS a vastly larger community, because it isn't and doesn't. It's just my opinion that if it remains free some day PSN might become a vastly larger community.. Geez.
Would you like to know WHY the PS3 doesn't have cross-game chat yet? It's because Sony's PSN (Pathetically Structured Network) doesn't have mandated uniformity like 360 games. PS3 devs don't even have to ACKNOWLEDGE the PSN feature set, aside from Trophies. MS implemented a uniform, mandated framework for Live-enabled games, all the way back in 2002. Those features included: cross-game chat, custom soundtracks, in-game messaging, cross-game invites, Friends support for MP, and online profile support. Sony has been way-late to the party on ALL of those features, thus far....but they gave you a Home, at least. Of course, it took over 2 years to build, and the roof and interior is still unfinished. :o
Don't call me a simpleton.. You mortal. But yes it sucks Sony wasn't as anal or smart as Microsoft. Also I already KNEW that was why it didn't have cross game chat YET... But it doesn't hurt to still want it for PSN. Thanks for the history refresher though, hater.
"More than 600 titles incorporated with online features have been released for the PS3 system worldwide, including Resistance: Fall of ManTM, Gran TurismoTM 5 Prologue and LittleBigPlanetTM from SCE." Can we please tell the kiddies from the other camp and retails that the PS3 Has 600 games and growing... can we, please let them know that that no games arguement died 2 years ago. ^^ thanks Sony and congrats with the success of PS3, PSp, PSN and PSHOME.. job well done now lets have us that KZ2 shall we.
I think everybody knew this already.. but it also depends on how many retail versus how many downloadable. The Xbox 360 has around 1200-1500 different games now because retail and downloadable are counted together. And Microsoft already announced there would be over 1000 games on the 360 by the end of 2008.
Well thats good 20 million members I just wish PSN had better avatars.
I have two PS3 accounts (one European, one US) but nothing for my PSP. Don't know how widespread this practice is though. The Euro-only KZ2 demo may have made a few US owners create a second account.
i have like 4 psn account though so im sure its not that many. definitely more people on live on the 360 compared to psn...for online gaming anyways ps3 -----just cod in MLG mgo - no one plays that cod- many players warhawk - meh 360------alll in MLG halo 3 - many players gears - many players gears 2 - many players cod4 - many players cod waw- many players point thank you ...im sure more people still play halo 2 than MGO
the following I know from first hand experience. Home - tooo many ppl Grand Tourismo - lots of ppl SOCOM:C - lots of ppl (with headsets) WarHark - googles of ppl Cod4 - lots of ppl (of coarse) Those are the games I play regularly and never had a lack of competition.
o look halo 3 has 108,570 people on right now and 700000 people were on today...... and i have a ps3...GT5p sucked ill wait for a real GT game.....socom..ahahha ill wait for a real socom..and home really??? cod yes...i agree
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