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Are demos bad for the industry and developers?

whoelse from PS3Attitude.com:
"Game Demos have been part of the industry for as long as we can remember and offer gamers the chance to try out a game without taking any money from their pockets.

However we ask ourselves, are demos actually bad for the industry and developers?"

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butterfinger5964d ago

I could see demos being bad if they are based off of a pretty early build of the game (MotorStorm:PR initial demo), or if a much anticipated game's demo isn't what fans were hoping for (many people with the RE5 demo). Most of the time big-name releases don't see demos for the risk of it not living up to the hype (no pre-launch demo for Gears 2, MGS4, Fable 2, LBP, or Resistance 2). I do think demos are great for certain games, however, as sometimes a demo (especially for new IP) will make you want to buy the game (Mirror's Edge's demo got a couple of my friends on board). At least demos are always good for gamers:)

himdeel5964d ago (Edited 5964d ago )

I also think that when company's do offer demos they should be fairly recent/newer builds of a game. It should ALWAYS offer a good quality, stable taste of what a full build of a game can offer.

A company should never offer an extremely old build of a game as a demo that is super glitchy and frustrating to play ONLY to counter with, "It's just the demo...", knowing full well the finished product is equally as bad.

I think the Killzone 2 demo is an example of an old build demo that is good quality. Also Mirrors Edge demo was a good quality that I believe was an older build demo. The first Motorstorm:PR demo wasn't so good quality imo and I believe was an older build. The Dead Space demo although it came later was a good quality demo but I'm not certain of the time of the build.

Trollimite5964d ago

any one who played the iron man demo knows this. i was going to buy the game because th movie was so awesome then a played the demo and it was the worst thing ever

on the other hand the afro samurai demo that came out yesterday made me go to a 24 hour walmart to pick it up

i guess its a double edge sword

BigPappaPump5964d ago

You took the word right out of my mouth.

himdeel5964d ago (Edited 5964d ago )

...I enjoyed the demo much more than I thought I would. I'd consider buying it at a discounted price. The presentation of the game drew me in completely. It's pure fan service.

I just wondered if there was more weight added to the great katana swings in the full version. There was no rumble for his attack actions, movement or when feedback when you're hit by an enemy.

NaiNaiNai5964d ago

works both way, im a big ace combat fan, so i thought i would like HAWX, but after playing with it i decided not to get it, T_T after 6 months of waiting. but ninja blade that was completely off my radar poped up on the japan downlaods got it, and i now have a new game on my list.
-nai-

pixelsword5964d ago (Edited 5964d ago )

-If you think a demo is bad for you, then make a great game, period.

-A demo counters critic and console bias; according to some Killzone 2 reviews, K2 doesn't look better than Gears 2... which is a flat-out lie. I've seen/played both games, and I now know that K2 look better than GeOW 2, but you can't convince people with a bias; luckily I don't have to because I can see for myself and tell others to do so. Overall, Killzone 2 does indeed beat Crysis in terms of quality, action, and things onscreen in the game. sure, Crysis blows away every game in terms of raw power and demos, but the sum does not equal the whole for Crysis as a game.

- I take demos over reviews. If there's a demo out showing a proper sample of abilities of the game, the reviews take a back seat. Rarely can you not get the grasp of what's going on in a demo.

- Bad demos often equal no sale because it represents the game as-is; and if not, then make sure it does. Motorstorm 2's first demo got the thumbs-down from me, but the second demo they put out convinced me to buy the game.

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EA Cut Dead Space's Marketing Budget to Pour Into Mirror's Edge Due to Mock Review Scores

Former Visceral Games devs reveal Dead Space's marketing budget was cut in favor of Mirror's Edge because of mock review scores.

Knightofelemia175d ago (Edited 175d ago )

I wish EA would just release a DS2 remake. DS is my favorite horror game and DS2 is the best one in the franchise. But because DS1 failed to meet certain numbers EA scrapped the DS2 remake. SH2 remake was great rumors are Konami might be asking for another SH remake. The RE2 remake was great EA just needs to give it another try. But all they seem to do is shitty sports games that are no different from the year before. Change a few players, add different uniform colours, maybe change a team logo. Wash, rinse, repeat.

goken175d ago

Agreed. DS was great. But DS2 was even better. Would love to see a DS2 remake, though I would love to see a DS4 even more.
The problem with EA is they make easy $ from the slight changes to their sports titles like football FC games (whatever it’s called nowadays). People just lap that sh1t up.
Comparatively, games like DS which don’t sell 10s of millions, can’t sell them team player add ons and all the like, would seem a hassle to make and unappealing comparatively. Especially when you consider that most EA non sport titles haven’t actually performed well recently.

Pyrofire95175d ago

Dark Souls 2, Darksiders 2, Dead Space 2, Death Stranding 2, Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor 2

chicken_in_the_corn175d ago

The Dead space remake was so good. Better than the original. Shame they won't remake 2.

__y2jb175d ago

I loved the original dead space but the remake I just found boring. Game design has moved on and the game really showed its age, just small area encounters repeated again and again.

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DefenderOfDoom2175d ago

I bought Dead Space during launch window and I never bought a Mirror's Edge game .

Inverno174d ago

Then they went on to screw both games over.

UnbreakableAlex174d ago

I'd rather see a new and great Mirrors Edge than another boring Dead Space.

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Why Guerrilla Games Shouldn't Abandon the Killzone Series

Hugely disappointingly, it seems that Guerrilla Games, developers of the Killzone and Horizon series, may be done with Killzone for good.

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IAMRealHooman240d ago

1 was fine, overhyped as a " halo" killer
2 was a graphical beast at the time, and felt heavy
3 was good a refinement of 2 but not much else. weird audio issues environment were to quiet
shadow fall was pretty but bland

OtterX240d ago (Edited 240d ago )

Shadowfall had great Multiplayer though. Too bad the campaign was meh at best. It did have the occasional great moment sprinkled in.

TheNamelessOne239d ago (Edited 239d ago )

I played through 2/3 multiple times. I played through the original once, but it felt pretty lukewarm for me. I couldn't be bothered to beat Shadow Fall. I got a couple hours in and just went "I'm done". Never touched it again. It was awesome on the tech side, being a launch title, but it didn't even match up to the first game when it came to actually having fun playing it.

Rude-ro240d ago

3 in 3d was an amazing experience to be had.
Although not many experienced it as intended for good reasons.

just_looken239d ago

You forgot the ai advancements on the playstation 2 killzone one you could have a full team of bots doing everything even playing the objective that was a big thing.

In killzone 2 they always flanked you and when available used the high ground.

Playing killzone 2 no hud 5.1 audio was/is awesome

MDTunkown240d ago

They should finish Horizon story first

darthv72240d ago

I dont mind if someone else takes up the mantle for the KZ franchise. We are several years removed from the first game. It certainly could use a remake to gauge interest in the rest of the series. I know it has its fans... Im thinking of how a proper reboot can rekindle that old dormant flame and bring in a new generation of fans in the process.

just_looken239d ago

You forgot killzone mercenaries on the ps vita but it was the worst selling sony game for awhile there.

Yui_Suzumiya239d ago

Yeah, a remake would be pretty awesome

anast240d ago

They should let it go or sell it. No use spending millions on this project.

LucasRuinedChildhood240d ago

Would like a new IP before Horizon 3. Just because games take so long to make these days.

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PlayStation 3 Games That Desperately Need a PS5 Remaster

The PlayStation 3 may not have been the strongest generation for Sony, but there were still some diamonds in the rough that deserve a revisit as PS5 remasters.

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OtterX469d ago (Edited 469d ago )

Even if they could just remaster and put on PSVR2, some would still look great as VR titles and could do a whole lot to bolster the headset w these exclusives! I'd imagine the investment of reworking these titles into VR would be way less than building new games from the ground up, and they could be amazing experiences, and VR often makes flat games feel fresh again. The Resistance and Killzone games are particularly what I want to see!!

Rude-ro468d ago

I played killzone 3 in 3d and it really changed the game per being immersive.
In vr, that would be even more awesome.

darthv72468d ago

Funny you mention that... my son wanted to play some PS3 games in 3d on my PS tv and he was blown away by how good KZ3 was. It really was a great addition to the game. Im surprised there have not been more 3d games from that era being ported to the PSVR/VR2.

_SilverHawk_468d ago

resistance 1-3, killzone 1-3, uncharted 1-3, uncharted golden abyss, folklore, socom 4 , motorstorm, twisted metal, MAG, heavenly sword

Cacabunga468d ago

Killzone 2+3
Sly Thieves in Time
Crack in Time
God of War Ascension
Motorstorm
Modnation racer
Infamous 1+2

Profchaos468d ago (Edited 468d ago )

Killzone trilogy in VR would be amazing bonus points if they offer shadow fall.

There was a psvr1 Killzone project that supermassive was working on at one stage which wasn't up to scratch and Sony brand it back in house I was hoping we would see that on psvr2 eventually.

Personally I'd love to see some more love or acknowledgement of psvr2 from Sony in general it was a expensive headset and Sony barely acknowledge it's existence

seanpitt23468d ago

The amount of work needed to remaster these games wouldn't be beneficial on a financial and business sense.. MGS4 would probably be the best bet as it would need the least amount of work!

Iceball2000469d ago

YEAAASSSSS! I miss this franchise and wanna play it so bad again.

Father__Merrin469d ago

The time is perfect for a resistance fall of man game campaign coop multiplayer

InUrFoxHole469d ago

The resistance series is str8 trash to me. Socom 3 I would welcome. Or killzone MP.

Marcus Fenix469d ago

A Resistance reboot will be awesome

Michiel1989469d ago

That's what Bungie should make, Ill keep saying it until it happens

1Victor469d ago (Edited 469d ago )

Resistance was ok but Warhawk and Starhawk was better and kept me coming back for almost a decade of fun and petty revenge on the loud mouth unskilled players 🤣
Edit I loved capture the flag dropping the pot on the flag carrier was extremely satisfying as well as transforming your plane in bot form and stumping them to death 😱

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Michiel1989469d ago

Resistance was the best co-op fps I ever played after L4D2

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