Native Resolution for Star Ocean 4 Speculation

A poster on B3D reports that the XBOX 360 JRPG Star Ocean 4, runs at a native resolution of 900x510, which makes it just above SD resolution. Other also confirm this discovery in the thread.

[HajAminSaniBinJihadi]

Square merged with enix on april fools day...

if that says anything

[Sasanova]

lol 360 showing true power with below SD resolution!
NICE!

[Lucreto]

SD is 480p it is HD but just barely.

[Mr_Bun]

I think SD is 852x480...I am guessing the title should read "below HD..."

[Lucreto]

It is kind of pathetic really when you see WKC running at 1080p

[GWAVE]

Huh. Kinda disappointing.

[burbulla]

PAL SD is 560p

[CrazzyMan]

When i first time saw screens of SO4, i said myself, wow, now that looks like a nextgen game on x360. I was impressed.
http://qsf5.com/wp-content/...
It looked maybe not as good as FFXIII, but it definitely looked like a nextgen jrpg.

That time i thought, that maybe x360 can do a nextgen graphics, like PS3. I really liked SO4 graphics, except that later, when i saw those characters, they looked like a dolls.., but overall, gameplay graphics looked like what i would call a nextgen.

But now, now i get, why the game looked like a nextgen, it`s because it runs just barely above SD resolution. Funny, that God of War 2 also look like a nextgen game, also run in SD resolution, BUT that is PS2...

p.s. now i understand, how Square will make FFXIII to run on x360. =)

[xwabbit]

Hope this isn't true lol...

[kazuma]

new low for next-gen consoles?

[Sasanova]

why do you think ff13 was delayed so long...same reason alan wake is...i dont care what square says, i know they are trying to make something out of the xbox version to make it at least playable no matter how much they have to sacrifice...i wouldnt be suprised if they delayed it cus it could only run at 5x8 reso lol

[MNicholas]

This is obviously a terribly unoptimized engine on perhaps the easiest to optimize platform on the planet. Really poor effort.

[TheTwelve]

I'm not so sure that this has anything to do with Microsoft. This has to do with the piss-poor company that Square-Enix has become. How pathetic.

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[Domenikos]

Compression Time ^^

[eagle21]

3?

[SCThor]

lowering the resolution...expect the same or even worst with FFXIII.

[gameplayer]

510p, if true, is horrible. Just for the record though, the lowest defined HD source is 854x480 interlaced at 30 frames per second labeled as EDTV or 480i. The highest defined SD source is 720x480 interlaced at 30 frames per second. 510p is still horrible though.

[IzKyD1331]

Oh man, if this is Square's attempt at a nex-gen RPG, than I almost don't want to see FF13

[KillaManiac]

1.15 - Now I know how SE make it fit in 3 disks and not in 6..
lowering the resolution...expect the same or even worst with FFXIII.

This is 100% correct.....FFXIII is gunna be ass resolution since they don't want it on 5+ discs...its freaking obvious.

Square Enix has fallen SO much....how must more worse can it get?

[Kushan]

The title for the thread where this comes from is "Image Quality and Framebuffer SPECULATIONS for UNRELEASED Games"

In other words, they're looking at released screenshots, which are not necessarily indicative of the final product. So nothing, and I mean NOTHING, has been confirmed at this point.

I'm on the fence here, it seems absurd for anyone to release a game of this low quality, but with the way Squeenix has gone lately, I really would not be surprised in the slightest.

[Kushan]

It's got absolutely nothing to do with disk space...at all...

Rendering with a smaller internal framebuffer does not save you any kind of disk space. You might be thinking lower resolution textures, but they've got nothing to do with the framebuffer, by the time the scalar chip inside the 360 scales it up to 720p or 1080p for displaying on your TV, the textures would look the the same if you rendered the scene at 720p or 1080p. The benefit from higher resolution framebuffers is "less jaggies", which is also what AA is for.

[thats_just_prime]

LOL the source is a forum this show you just how stupid the ps3fanboy here really are

[sonarus]

Funny thing is this is still the best looking JRPG. All this fanboy pixel counting is lame

[Traveler]

I think Tales of Vesperia and Valkyria Chronicles probably both look better than this game. Just my opinion though, and I haven't played Star Ocean 4.

[Rock Bottom]

I agree with you, I don't think the reason for this was to save space, but still, low resolution can help reduce space, even if not in a direct way, for example, when you reduce the resolution you can get away with less texture details or you can reduce the polygons count and no one would notice, so it kinda do help.

[flanker22]

Yes the battles are rendered low but if you even take a moment to watch battles it would be nearly impossible to maintain a stable frame rate no matter what hardware its on. Too many full screen explosions with several character on the screen simultaneous. outside battles the game is running at a very high resolution.

also those who keep bring up wkc sure it runs 1080 but it looks like absolute ass more like a high resolution ps2 game. every review has said the combat is an absolute blast and bring up the score even with all its other shortcomings.

WKC: http://static4.filefront.co...
SO4: http://image.com.com/gamesp...
SO4 battle: http://xbox360media.ign.com...

[lokiroo420]

Mart come on comment on console capabilities like you were in street fighter, come on show your rat face.

@below
talk about some medicine for the 360 infections, classic!

[Pennywise]

lol see my gamer zone comment. I called them all out. Fools. Its funny with the minuet SF4 comparison and now this comes out. Perfect timing.

[nix]

the news has hit 600 plus deg.. but still can't be seen in the Top Story. way to go mods!

keep up with it.. that is if you wanna go the 1up, gs, g4tv way.

[PoSTedUP]

wow thats like... un-good : P

not that bad if the game is good though. : D

[Pennywise]

LOL - Calling out bladestar, Mart, Foxgod and Jason 360...

All these guys were just talking trash about SF4 being lower rez when you do a special combo, pause the game, get a magnifying glass, put your face 1" from the TV, stand upside down, place your 360 controller on your crotch and make it rumble you will see the PS3 version is inferior.

[hydrog]

The last time i put my 360 controller near my crotch, i contracted the syph... but at least i got off! The ps3 controller made my penis shrivel up and crawl back inside.

[Pennywise]

lol!!! It crawled back inside? Sure its not a vagina? :P

[Johnny Rotten]

and it still took 3 disks to fit the game on. lol

[Omega4]

I guess wont be ported to the PS3 then since you cant get much lower than SD, unless its going to be the first PS3 game to be in FULL black and white

[kazuma]

nice way to spin things LOL

[swiftshot93]

you have to hand it to omega4 though, hes a true-delusional fanboy. Nice try spinning it LMAO

Edit: This game is also on 3 discs? LOOOOOL! Try spinning that one! this is too ironic especially after that SF4 comparison where you had to have both version side by side to see any differences. And you were running your mouth like crazy ROFL

[pwnsause]

says the guy who attempted to make a big deal out the PS3 version of SFIV that it supposibly runs in sub 720p. Seriously, why dont you take a train ride to the open zone? thats where you belong.

Square-Enix has been underperfoming this gen, and they will continue to do so. FFXIII is their only glimmer of Hope right now and look hows that going? the game might get delayed beyond 2010 cause of their stupidity.

[eagle21]

PS3 has games, not shovelware. :)

[Blademask]

Not that resolution matters, nope. That you desperately tried to make this an issue earlier today.. lol..

SO I guess 320 exclusives can't run HD games?

sad sad sad..

isn't WKC higher rated & 1080p?

Bottom line, resolutions don't matter and have nothing to do with gaming. Just hardware capability. Im sure everyone is going to enjoy this regardless of the fact that the 360 cant run it in HD.

[Lucreto]

It be funny if it is true but I doubt it is 510p and there was talk about poor frame rate as well.

Either Tri-ace has lost developing skill or its the 360 hardware but I think it is tri-ace.

Tri-ace engine is buggy and they need to dump it or fix it. All the games released from them on the 360 have frame rate problems. I will be afraid to see their PS3 games it might run like The Orange Box.

[Godmars290]

They made the sacrifice to get it onto 3 discs.

Still sad that its that low rez and still has frame rate issues.

[RUPITY]

Maybe it's in HD on Disc 3.

[ActionBastard]

Bubbles for making me LMAO! Classic dude.

[RUPITY]

lol I think I know why they didn't make it for Ps3 "SD only on Xbox" :P

[Zeus Lee]

Now that's just sad.

[hydrog]

Regardless of what machine they develop for, the fact is Squeenix has been filled with fail for a while now. Time for a new RPG king.

[Gun_Senshi]

Squaresoft is DEAD

[OmarJA]

>:P

[-EvoAnubis-]

I wonder if concessions had to be made given the size limitations of DVD9?

[Covenant]

That's possible...I know that the next Xbox will definitely have to have something bigger than DVD-9. Changing discs doesn't bother me...I did it for FFVII...but there's something to be said for having it all on one disc.

But as I noted below, graphics are secondary to me when it comes to this game.

[-EvoAnubis-]

They should have had something bigger THIS generation. It pisses me off that MS came into this industry and suddenly decided that for the first time ever a bigger storage format wasn't needed going from one generation to the next. Hell, even Nintendo figured that one out.

[LiquifiedArt]

(we all know it will come)
This just lacks that graphical fidelity it should have. I'm extermely dissapointed because I follow the Star Ocean games. UGH!!

[flanker22]

wont happen, the same thread discusses that the SFIV and how graphically its inferior on the ps3. lack of AA 630p on closeups.

the reason SO4 runs low res is because its only in battle, actual game runs at a higher resolution. plus i've heard reports that the battles run at 60fps which people dont even mention.

[Chaoticsoulx]

They aren't allowed to talk about it until the contract with microsoft is up though, which is quarter 3 this year.

[Covenant]

Proof? Cite sources, please.

I'm not trying to be antagonistic, but I call BS until I see proof.

[Counter_ACT]

Covenant, he's taking the piss.

[Covenant]

@Counter: I think you're right.

[Covenant]

Could care less. Seriously.

I'm interested in the story and the gameplay, not the graphics.

[creamydingle]

Could care less. Seriously.

I'm interested in the story and the gameplay, not the graphics.

Its funny how the xbots have changed there tune last year it was all about the graphics now that the ps3 has smashed the 360 in the graphics all the xbots care about story and gameplay lmao.

[Covenant]

Firstly, I'm not a 360 fanboy. I play and respect all three systems. And if you don't believe me, check my posts.

Graphics weren't the reason I played and loved Ocarina of Time, or Ratchet, or Halo, or Quake, or Mario. It was GAMEPLAY. Pure and simple.

Secondly, "xb*ts" is an OPEN ZONE term...take it there. Read your posting rules below if you don't believe me.

[Sarcasm]

Enough with the "Gameplay > Graphics"

You know damn well everyone wants BOTH. Though it's more like 65% gameplay and 35% graphics. But still, an F1 racing champion is 25% car, 25% team, and 50% driver. In order to be complete you must have everything.

Otherwise, if graphics aren't important then everyone should sell their 360's and PS3s and just get a SNES, since that console is one of the best ever created.

[Whoooop]

@ Creamy

Covenant is one of the most unbiased and fair members in this site...

Even if he prefers a certain console, he always gives credit when it's due and criticism when it's also due, no matter the console or game.

/end suck up

;)

[Menchi]

Well, while I agree that's how it should be, it just so happens that this, according to the reviews so far, seems to lack a good story.

Which isn't a surprise. But still, the battle system is supposed to be good. I'm personally expecting this to ship on the PS3 within the year.

Depending on more reviews, will have to see if it's worth the time to invest in it.

[Counter_ACT]

It's below SD for the UK.

[II Necroplasm II]

I really was thinking about trying Star Ocean 4 but ummm...PASS.

[Chaoticsoulx]

Oh wait, it got a 7/10.... i guess, it's a flop... but that's ok

At least you can still play it, and pretend it's a ps2 game, it's graphics look about the same.

[poeo]

ouch... and i was thinking maybe getting an Xbox 360 for this game (after seeing the first screenshots, it looked beautiful)

ohh well maybe next time.

[Sarcasm]

"first screenshots"

They are usually Bullshots. See exhibit "Epic games"

Gears of War bullshot
http://www.streettech.com/s...

Gears of War screenshot
http://media.teamxbox.com/g...

[ELite_Ghost]

LMAO... JUST LMAO!!!!! nextgen?? nope...

[hippo24]

The japs have a hit or miss on the graphics department.