Halo 3 vs Killzone 2 - Graphic Comparison

RoG write:

The original Halo was immediatly praised for its awesome graphics and more importantly because it proved that making a...
... high quality first person shooter on a gaming console wasn't just a dream. Now it's finally time to take a look at the sequel to the game which many called the 'Halo killer' when it came out five years ago. Of course we're talking about Killzone 2 and we'll go straight to the point by stating that this time not only Guerrilla Games doesn't dissapoint but the team delivered what we believe is a product which sets a new tandard in the genre. To be honest many gamers felt a bit disappointed with Halo 3, the game didn't prove to be exactly what people were expecting from a next gen entry in such a big, important series. That of course hasn't stopped the game from being a huge success but now, more than a year after Microsoft's flagship title release we have decided to make a comparison to show how much Killzone 2 has set the bar higher.

Screens have been captured at 720p for both titles.

[Sangria]

ROFL that's maybe the worst comparison ever made with KZ2 vs Crysis.

[Rock Bottom]

Haha, this is going to be hilarious.

The sad thing however is that this will not be the last stupid comparison we see here.

[KRUSSIDULL]

ROFLAMO PS3 fans does whatever it takes to outshine 360 now but I dont affing care there were even better looking games for 360 back then like lets say Gears of War? :P

[Lekumkee]

http://www.youtube.com/watc... :)

[MazzingerZ]

yeah...Halo is like 2 years old, besides even when it came out graphics weren't better than in Gears...but co-op was way better than in Gears 1 (that Halo 3 CGI commercial didn't help much)...the graphics was a trade off...Halo 3 was/is great and fun to play with friends.

Killzone 2 only follows the pattern of progression in the graphical department on the PS3, PS3 outperformed the X360 already when GT5P was released, forget about comparing Killzone 2...if that's the case the X360 would need to match first MGS4 then think about Killzone 2

People can say the X360 could run that type of games but the fact that today only the PS3 does.

X360 owners cares all of the sudden about "gameplay" over graphics...a year ago it was different, PS3 HW was bashed for being useless. PS3 games line up for being poor...MEtacritic was the reference when comparing the consoles, number of exclusives over 85 average score, X360 the console for the "hardocore" gamer...X360 was the console for the shooters (R2, SOCOM, K2 and soon MAG says hi)

TODAY? well, let's say that all those arguments are not used anymore and instead exclusive DLC is the sh%t...

[pixelsword]

-since reporters won't keep the phrase "halo killer" out of their mouth

-since both games came out roughly around the same "year" in terms of launch dates

-since some people/bloggers site Halo 3 as the best online experience on the 360, even better than CoD4; according to bloggers, Killzone 2 trumps CoD4, making the gameplay of Halo3 game to be compared.

**** reasons why it's not valid

- off the bat, you're comparing a HD game to a sub-HD game... not exactly fair. If it was the same game across multiple consoles, I think that would be more apt

- as much as graphics aren't gameplay, a demo isn't a game; so I would at least wait until the final game is out before comparing the two

- reviews of both games already said Halo 3's graphics were lacking, and Killzone 2's graphics were some of the best, if not the best, on consoles -ever-

At any rate, keep a level head until you get the final product. It's 19 DAYS FROM NOW!

w00t!

[St0]

Not only are the graphics better in KillZone, the resolution is also higher

Halo 3 = 1152x640 (no AA)

Killzone 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA)

[edhe]

Halo's a year and a half older, after ODST it's going to be end of line, and killzone2 isn't even out yet.

Yes, it *should* pound halo into the ground, it'd be a sad day if it didn't.

Stupid comparison, sigh.

[HighDefinition]

But, as much as it looks better, Killzone 2 does ALOT of small things that other games just don`t do.

[Pika-pie]

When i first started playing the KZ2 my jaw hit the floor, unbelievable eyepopping visuals that were so good I couldnt concentrate on the action.

That never once happened to me with Halo 3

[Marquis_de_Sade]

Ughh, boring, I played the Killzone 2 demo and enjoyed it, a day one purchase but personally I still prefer the gameplay of Halo 3. Of course Killzone 2 is technically superior, although the textures were rather poor in my opinion.

[Buttons]

I'm making a Killzone 2 vs. Commodore 64 Graphics Comparison

[Downtown boogey]

conduct a comparision between Killzone 2 and CoD4 since CoD4 received even more praise for it's graphics even though it's clearly inferior to Killzone 2... A lot of ppl even said that CoD4 looked better than Crysis! WTF???

[robep3]

PICTURES dont show what Kz2 is about you need to see VIDEO to see the real difference between it and other games!

Its the amount of things on screen at once even in the demo look at the sky you see a lot going on above your head ships, rockets being fired etc.

Rob.

[Aquanox]

It's awesome how a game that is suppossed to look this bad has gotten much better review scores than Killzone 2 - And that considering that Halo 3 has 86 reviews, whereas Killzone 2 has 40, most of them exclusive, which mean mandatorily higher than usual.

This is probably because it plays much better, it's much more fun and it doesn't look as bad as those screens pretend.

Downtown boogey -

I can bet you money right now that COD6 (The one developed by Infinity) released THIS year (2 year of development btw) will score higher than Killzone - Just like COD4 did) and will actually bring innovative stuff to the genre instead of just compilate them from the others.

[gametheory]

"It's awesome how a game that is suppossed to look this bad has gotten much better review scores than Killzone 2 "

Awesome? Yeah, money can do wonders my friend.

Anyway, Killzone 2 has about 125 reviews down here at N4G and has a 9.3 average. On the other hand, Halo has about 40 reviews and a 8.9 average. Why don't you Halo fanboys gather as many reviews as you can to crank up that score? Hell, go to metacritic and put only the best scores here, it might as well reach Killzone 2 quality, because everyone knows that reviews matter more than the actual game. Oh wait.

[N4360G]

LOL Killzone 2 easily wins,Halo 3 has bad graphics.

[The Dude]

I am so glad my gamestop preorder included access to the killzone 2 demo. I played the KZ2 demo and am now canceling my preorder. In the end its an average shooter with great graphics thats it.

[Arnon]

"Anyway, Killzone 2 has about 125 reviews down here at N4G and has a 9.3 average. On the other hand, Halo has about 40 reviews and a 8.9 average. Why don't you Halo fanboys gather as many reviews as you can to crank up that score? Hell, go to metacritic and put only the best scores here, it might as well reach Killzone 2 quality, because everyone knows that reviews matter more than the actual game. Oh wait."

Lol. Yeah, lets take all the backwoods scores from sites that people have never heard of from the backwoods blogging site, N4G. No. I would take Metacritics word over scores from places in the world that probably can not even get this game.

And yes, The Dude. You are exactly right. Killzone 2 looks phenomenal with the basic of basic shooting mechanics. And honestly there's no one here that could actually say that you and I are wrong on this part.

[gametheory]

"Lol. Yeah, lets take all the backwoods scores from sites that people have never heard of from the backwoods blogging site, N4G. No. I would take Metacritics word over scores from places in the world that probably can not even get this game."

So you rather take Metacritic, which puts mostly scores from sites whose revenue depends on the businesses (i.e. paid lobbyists) than actually honest sites whose traffic depends on the quality of their work rather than the strength of their corporation? Good job numbnuts, you missed the whole point anyway, because I clearly implied that review scores ultimately mean jack sh1t. I guess some people are just too dense.

"And yes, The Dude. You are exactly right. Killzone 2 looks phenomenal with the basic of basic shooting mechanics. And honestly there's no one here that could actually say that you and I are wrong on this part. "

Tell me where did I write about Killzone 2's "looks"? Oh, and please... Halo is popular because it's "basic of basic", it requires no strategy on the player's part and it has no cover system, it is basically run and gun. This is not opinion, it's a fact.

[ps92117]

there is a flaw with your comment that a ps3 owner would notice, so either you don't own a ps3 or you are a retard, both cases your comment is null.

[thats_just_prime]

Whats the point Halo 3 looked like crapped when it was released. Shouldnt they be trying to compare it to GoW2 ?

[Why dis]

I think the comparison is a valid one, KZ2's textures are average.

[Matpan]

Pointless comparison... While one game is clearly there (above all other things) to showcase a console´s power. The other is mainly a fun game to play, and a sequel to a top selling franchise whose graphics where never top notch. Oh.. an d there is the developing time, and the time difference between both releases...

I would like to see how much is KZ2 played on-line well after a year of it´s release date...

I´m not saying it will play worse than halo 3 or be less fun (it´s not even out yet) but halo franchise and Halo 3 has proven much value that KZ2 still hasn´t. In fact, KZ2 has only proven to be an impressive graphic powerhouse so far, which as I said before, was probably it´s main goal.

[MUNKYPOO]

because of idiots like you my preorder didn't come with a demo. they were all out

[The Dude]

@MUNKYPOO

Because of your narrow minded comment, I'm glad you didn't.

[joevfx]

wait why is this a stupid comparison? xbots werent complainign when they compaired KZ2 to gears 2, but they complain when the compair halo3 to kz2? just prooves u are all babies.

[ProperFunked]

i hope everyone not forgetting that Halo 3 screenshots are re-rendered, which is why those comparison shots look as good as they do. my friend used one of his screenshots for his desktop background, and i said "holy sh*t, i didnt realize it looked that good" addresing the armor textures and detail in the SS. then he told me it the gameplay doesnt, but the screenshots are actually re-rendered for higher resolution images.

[Obama]

You have the guts to talk about exclusive reviews when MS sent a 800 dollars worth of halo 3 swagbag to every reviewer, which is clearly BRIBE.

[BattleAxe]

HALO.............LMAO

[thegood33]

That doesn't even make sense.

Granted I own all three systems, and they all have thier good points, but halo IS a great game, and Killzone, at this point in time aint S$%#T.

That's like saying Ratchet and clank is better then Mario because it has higher resolution.

What a joke.

[Arnon]

"So you rather take Metacritic, which puts mostly scores from sites whose revenue depends on the businesses (i.e. paid lobbyists) than actually honest sites whose traffic depends on the quality of their work rather than the strength of their corporation? Good job numbnuts, you missed the whole point anyway, because I clearly implied that review scores ultimately mean jack sh1t. I guess some people are just too dense."

LOL. You're calling me a dense numbnuts because I would go by sites that have more credit? Not to mention you're calling me a dense numbnuts when you think that these sites are PAID?.. Is the Microsoft conspiracy going through your skull as well? Good lord. And BY that logic, BOTH types of reviewers would have to be paid by the same people due to the fact that if they weren't... THEY WOULDN'T BE MAKING A DAMN THING. These reviewers are not paid, in the least bit, by ANYONE, except by the people that advertise all over their site. THAT is how they get money to continue. It's like common sense just slipped your mind.

And to top it all off, if reading was a basic part of YOUR life, you would realize that the second part of my comment was not directed towards you in any way.

So before you start calling people names, maybe you should make sure that your comment isn't complete fud.

[Kaneda]

If KZ2 didn't look as good as Halo 3, xbots probably post some kind of comparison.. in this case, KZ2 does look better.. so stop saying it unfairs comparison! Halo 3 released when 360 2 yrs old.. same as KZ2.. 2 years and 3 months...

[TrevorPhillips]

why are they comparing Halo 3 with Killzone 2 LOL isnt halo an older game then killzone 2

[AbdullaMTR]

because halo 3 get 10/10 in most reviews so its fair to compare them.

edit: just i was trying to say halo 3 over rated please just tell me why it get 10 in graphics. compare them running real time side by side why in hell halo get high score.

[marichuu]

I highly doubt that's their reason for a comparison.
Did Halo 3 get a 10 in graphics where Killzone 2 didn't?

[SuperM]

its older true. but it looks like a last gen game in comparison to kz2

[Gaara_724]

i think its because they both came out 3 years into the consols life span so there actually even in that sense

[marichuu]

2 years.

And no, that would be retarded. It's like comparing a bluray movie with a VHS tape that came out 2 years after the thing went public.

[Time_Is_On_My_Side]

Simple

Halo 3 - 3 years after console release

Killzone 2 - 3 (+ 2 months) years after console release (the early release date in 2009 doesn't really count as a whole year)

Microsoft launched their console a year a head so if they were released at the same time the games would have came out around the same time.

The same can be done with Perfect Dark Zero and Resistance: Fall of Man yes Perfect Dark Zero is older but equal in the sense of time frames. This would be comparing launch titles with launch titles, it's valid if you see the logic. To me it wouldn't make sense to compare Gears of War with Resistance: Fall of Man if you wanted to be fair in time frames.

[Silellak]

Your timeframe is incredibly off. The PS3 won't have been three years old until November of this year. Halo 3 was released a little under two years after the 360's release. Not three years.

Math is HARD:

360 Release Date: 11/22/2005
Halo 3 Release Date: 9/25/2007
Time difference: 22 months

PS3 Release Date: 11/11/2006
KZ2 Release Date: 2/26/2009
Time difference: 27 months

Please don't just make up random numbers that happen to fit your argument when it's incredibly easy to research this sort of thing.

Also, the validity of comparing Resistance vs GoW on release was discussed back when the PS3 was just released. The comparison was often considered valid because, while the PS3 hadn't been out for a year (obviously), the dev kits had been in the hands of developers for nearly as long for both consoles, which is what is really important - how long the game was in development, not how long after a console's release it came out.

I keep hearing "4 years" as the number of years KZ2 has been in development. Given that Halo 2 came out in 2004, the maximum number of years it was likely in development is 3. Of course, Bungie's goal was never to make the prettiest game possible. This comparison is absurd, simply because Halo 3 was never supposed to be a graphical powerhouse. A true comparison would be vs. GoW2, where KZ2 would of course still win, but it wouldn't be as ridiculous of a comparison.

[Marquis_de_Sade]

I think the bottom line is Killzone 2 without its' quality graphics would be a distinctly average game to many, whereas Halo 3 is by no means the best looking game around, but has stellar gameplay, and the volume of people who play it is testament to that fact.

[Sevir04]

What every you tell yourself. KZ2 has proved it's self, the devs set out to deliver a gut renching frantic, cinematic shooter thats realistic and fun to play including it's multiplayer, there is no where near an average game. but keep telling yourself that. the only review score that agrees with what you are saying is the 1 seven that egde gave it and it was strictly for the story which everyone else praised it for so... have a good time wrapping your head around that. average. that would be the halo series after it part 1. as a 360 fan from xbox.com said in his article, "... it's strange to say, but Halo 3: ODST has something to live up to" and it isn't halo 3.

[gametheory]

"the dev kits had been in the hands of developers for nearly as long for both consoles,"

That's a flat out lie. The first dev kits for 360 were given away little after Halo 2's release. Developers had already been working with early Xbox 360 dev kits by then, that's why they were able to show initial builds of quite many 360 games during E3 2005. The final dev kits were received around Xbox 360s launch.

On the other hand, the only game we saw running real-time on early PS3 dev kits during E3 2005 was UT3, and that's because Epic probably had a priority over the majority of 3rd party devs (it's no wonder why UT3 was a timed exclusive). Still, early dev kits for 360 were a lot more similar to the final 360 architecture and were released a lot earlier. The first dev kits for PS3 didn't even have a cell processor, i.e. it didn't have SPE's, a fundamental component of PS3 engines. On the other hand, the PCs for initial 360 development were similar, the only difference was the amount of cores in the processor (and it's not like many games use multi-core code on 360 anyway).

The Cell processor was finalized in June 2006, so the final dev kits were given a bit later, but mostly to SCE in-house devs, and probably a few to EA, Epic and other heavy-weights in game development. It's safe to say that 360 had its development kits on developers hands much earlier than PS3 dev kits.

Furthermore, it's a very fair comparison for these reasons. 1. It's Xbox 360s flagship title, it's supposed to be the system seller. Killzone 2 aims to be just that for the PS3. 2. The 360 is a very easy system to develop for. It has a pretty straight-forward architecture, so developers in theory could have done a lot more in less time (that is, if the 360 was actually as powerful as PS3, which is not), especially considering it's the flagship game, a game Microsoft spent a lot of money on. 3. Bungie didn't have to start from scratch, Guerrilla did. 4. Both came in very similar time-frames with respect to each console's launch dates. 5 months can only get you so far when you're talking about a 2 year console launch-game launch timeframe. 5. Both games were given very high scores. The question is, why did Halo 3 even get such high scores? Killzone 2 multiplayer is just as good as Halo 3's if not better, and the campaign is definitely better compared to Halo 3's mediocre campaign. That definitely raises suspicion and that's why it's worth comparing these games.

Stop talking out of your ass.

[The Lazy One]

Development kits for PS3 were available by at least 2005 (they were at E3 2005 and TGS 2005)

The original xbox dev kits running on apple G5s were running xbox demos at E3 2005.

They've both had pre-final-hardware dev kits since around the same time (2004-2005).

[Time_Is_On_My_Side]

Math is hard...

Nov. 22, 2005 (XBOX 360)
Sept. 5, 2007 (Halo 3)
34 months

Nov. 11, 2006 (PlayStation 3)
Feb. 25, 2009 (Killzone 2)
51 months

51 (Killzone 2) – 34 (Halo 3) = 17 month difference meaning it could have been released in the same year/timeframe.

"Please don't just make up random numbers that happen to fit your argument when it's incredibly easy to research this sort of thing."

- Silellak

Maybe you should start listening to yourself is my suggestion but that's just me.

As with Gears of War I was talking about that it makes more sense to compare Resistance: Fall of Man with Perfect Dark Zero. Key word(s) in that sentence “makes more sense” because you would be comparing launch titles vs. launch titles, making it equal grounds. Now with Halo 3 ok it isn’t there graphically but the quality isn’t there as well. Killzone 2 is a perfect example of “quality” something lacking with the XBOX 360 for example Fable 2. In reality Halo 3 isn’t quality and is just a slightly updated version of Halo 2, not quality. Now if you compare Killzone 2 with Killzone the difference is so large it equals quality.

"To me it wouldn't make sense to compare Gears of War with Resistance: Fall of Man if you wanted to be fair in time frames."

- Some_One_Plays

Key word(s): timeframes, compare, sense.

This is partly why so many gamers call gaming sites bias because they don’t rate on quality and Halo 3 fails on quality. Killzone 2 looks to be a true next generation game so this comparison is fair because Halo 3 is a flagship title. In other words this is comparing flagship titles with flagship titles, in the first person shooter genre. Unlike you, I comment without the bias, maybe you should try that too.

[The Lazy One]

you're comparing solely on graphics, not on gameplay experience, when you use screeenshots.

Chess and civilization are both turn based strategy games. that doesn't mean they both concentrate on skill advancement, and thus should be compared with civ > chess. some games just don't care about graphics as much, and when you consider halo 3 has one of the best online party systems and a map editor on top of a lot of the features killzone has, it becomes an apples oranges comparison.

[Time_Is_On_My_Side]

More features don’t mean better and graphics is part of quality. For example if a movie has the top ten actors/actresses, best directors, the best technology, concept, storyline...etc. If everything doesn't fit together all around it doesn't mean it will be the best movie ever made. Some actors might not be performing a hundred percent all the time, camera angles off, CGI needed work, story presentation not there, will be with many other things to take into consideration.

In the end because Halo 3 has a hundred features it doesn't mean it makes it the best game out there. Another example would be Grand Theft Auto because the world will be fifty times bigger than in number four doesn't mean it will be better.

[king dong]

lol perhaps you should be called some ones stupid. are serious with those month tallys that you've posted?? if so, then my god, even basic arithmatic is far to much for you my friend.

Nov. 22, 2005 (XBOX 360)
Sept. 5, 2007 (Halo 3)
34 months = wrong..lol how did you get 34 months?? please explain how you came to that!
the answer is 22.

Nov. 11, 2006 (PlayStation 3)
Feb. 25, 2009 (Killzone 2)
51 months = wrong again, how did you 51 months?? lol
the answer is 27.

gametheory: stfu. sony dev weren't available til lat 06(said in squeaky teenage voice), is ridiculous. the delay in ps3 lauch was for blu-ray, not to finalize anything else...lose a bubble.

edit: some ones plays, after reading your comment. yeah kz2 graphics are without doubt quality, no question about it. but am i wrong in saying that bungie just "jazzed"up the halo2 engine for halo3, hence why the difference is not huge? i'm sure i read that they didn't create a new engine for halo3.

whereas kz2 has been built from the ground, especially for the ps3, with well over 4years and multiple millions spent on it! dont even dream of saying too human was in dev for 10years.....especially when they had a dispute with epic over the ue3 engine, and had to start over in 06 and build their own crappy engine.

bottom line, this comparison is flawed...lets leave it that.

[Time_Is_On_My_Side]

Lol, I knew someone would say something I counted in hours not months and the real focus was on the logic of the comment. Now with yours proudly stating your advanced math skills missed the whole point of the argument.

No matter how you put it Halo 3 isn't quality it doesn't matter what engine they used it doesn't mean that you can inflate the ratings that's bias. The only thing that's flawed is that you can't come to the reality that Sony games are at better quality than Microsoft's and you only prefer Halo 3 to be on top. Sorry to break your reality but Sony games are usually at a higher quality than Microsoft titles whether you prefer it or not.

The fact that Killzone 2's engine was built from the ground up shows you how dedicated they are to making a real game, unlike some other companies I know. I can't say it's flawed because one company made a better business decision than the other, lol. Or do you want me to put more math so you can correct me to feel good again?

[Silellak]

PM me when your math skills are above the 3rd grade level. Maybe then you'll be worth having a discussion with.

[bmatthews]

Killzone 2 looks better.

why are they being compared anyway?

[edhe]

Idiocy.

Next it'll be time to compare pacman to galaga.

[dachiefsman]

Cause people are already bored of the KZ2 demo. ZING!

[Kleptic]

these 2 games don't even look like they are from the same console generation...

I don't get the point of this either..and good thing this comparison didn't compare shots of character models...

[DaTruth]

If the media spends 3 years debating whether this is the Halo killa, wouldn't it be stupid to not do a comparison once the game finallly releases?

According to genre and time frame(given average between U.S and Europe release) in comparison of consoles for a console war(if I have to see VGchart numbers every week) then the comparisons should go like this...

Flagship titles FPS 2 years into console life: Halo 3 vs Killzone 2.
3rd person shooter exclusive one year into console life: Gears 1 vs Uncharted.
3rd person shooter exclusive two years into console life:Gears 2 vs Uncharted 2(upon release).

I don't really like the whole console war thing, but since it exists and is impossible to ignore and I have to put up with multiplatform comparisons, here's the other side.

[donator]

I can't help but think that sarcasm was underlying this comparison. I think they were poking fun at how silly comparisons really are with this ludicrous comparison because everyone, even blind people, know that KZ2 looks better.

[s8anicslayer]

it's only a demo!gorilla should of not released the demo and let the excitment continue to build for the launch of the game.somehow i don't fell that excited for kz2,i want to play it but the urgency is gone

[TheColbertinator]

Stupid comparison

[AbdullaMTR]

ya i know your feeling :P kanda you feel sad and shamed you own 360.

just wish more (alan wake) since u lost all the hopes lol.
just to remind you ( blueray not needed dvd enough for this gen :D )

[Sir Ken_Kutaragi]

Halo 3(xBox 360) vs GoldenEye(N64) - Graphic Comparison...

GoldenEye(N64) WINS!!! ;-D

+ I keep on getting PM's from xBot Zombie DLC Lemmings saying GAY things to me??? (He/It was called - 'SONYSLAVE' on this)

ARE THEY ALL GAY??? ;-D SORRY I LOVE WOMEN!!! ;-P

[blackbeld]

Agree... ^^^ Killzone 2 can not be compared with halo wars or any halo games... cmon.. graphics Killzone is way better..

[Aquanox]

The bad thing about N4G is that unkown websites can post idiotic comparisons like these which idiotic fanboys will immediatly boost as news.

Obviously, Killzone 2 looks better than Halo 3, nobody says the opposite. But from that to comparing the WORST possible Halo 3 screenies vs. the best from Killzone is far from being objective.

I swear I can do the exact opposite and find those awful textures in Killzone 2 comparing it to the best screens to any other game and make it look exactly like Halo 3 is suppossed to in this comparison.

Either way, whereas Killzone 2 - a game that took more than 4 years to develop - looks good, it still has a long road to walk in terms of gameplay and innovation to be considered a real Halo or Gears of War 2 competitor.

[AngryTypingGuy]

Actually, in the photos shown, the Halo 3 pics hold up in most shots, and the textures in the first picture were actually better for Halo 3. This makes me think that the pics for KZ2 weren't shown in their full capacity.

But yeah, why is there a graphics comparison between the two when Halo was never touted as a graphics powerhouse in the first place? The human character models in Halo were some of the worst I've seen. Nevertheless, gameplay should always be valued over graphics, and that is why Halo 3 is the highest selling exclusive this gen. It is a very fun, addictive game. The four-player co-op rules, and then there is the always popular multiplayer.

KZ2 looks great, but it will be the gameplay that makes or breaks it like any other game. Alan Wake will look amazing too, but we'll have to see what the gameplay is like before we know if it's a keeper or not.

[You bought an Xbox]

Steven ColBoT Strike's Again

Ha Ha

[mxdan]

They weren't.

Halo 3 was built in 720p and Killzone 2 was built in 1080i...

The screens were took in 720p. Obviously they are going to look similar. However had they shown the comparison in full compacity on both games killzone 2 would look far superior.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

^^^Look sir droids!^^^

[-EvoAnubis-]

Halo 3 didn't have great graphics when it came out in '07; it's no shock that KZ2 destroys it. It's a comparison that's unrequired.

[mal_tez92]

The graphics were very outdated for its time. Gears of War showed how good graphics can be, but Halo 3 fell short by a country mile.

[-EvoAnubis-]

Exactly my point. Halo 3 paled in comparison to games released around that same time . . . BioShock blew it out of the water even. So it's no shock that KZ2, the most graphically impressive game to be released on a console PERIOD, destroys it. So no need for the comparison.

[Kleptic]

Bioshock, Unreal Tournament 3, Uncharted, and of course...crysis...all trashed halo 3's visuals in its late 2007 release...

[Reshun]

What the..

[BLUR111]

How about that?

Halo 3 was made by half the budget as killzone 2

[TheColbertinator]

Indeed

[marichuu]

They could as well have compared it to Halo 2, I mean.. they're both second in the series :D

[AbdullaMTR]

32 player with that sick! graphics and smooth online, funnnnnnnnnnnnnnn as hell ask who been in the beta.

[Ashton]

advertising cost though ;).

MS spend 20 million on the game and 60 million on the advertising.

Sony spent 60 million on the game and around 15 million for advertising.

[heyheyhey]

"Halo 3 was made with half the budget"

proof?

i remember reports saying Halo 3 was $30mn games, reports also say Killzone is a $40mn game... hardly half now is it?

and Killzone 2 is incredibly fun to play thanks :), i've played the demo 12 times over and i keep coming back for more

[BLUR111]

you got a point look at gears, it's development only cost $10 million and it has almost sold 6 million copies I guess it pays off in the end and thanks to the unreal engine

@heyheyhey well I allways heard it was $60mill but face it killzone 2 is really just great graphics

[heyheyhey]

nope... i love the gameplay more than the graphics

have you played the game?

[goflyakite]

If you think that the game has a 93 on metacritic because it's just great graphics, then you're an idiot.

Don't even know why I'm trying with you. None of this will get through.

[AshleyRiot]

Agree with heyheyhey the gameplay in Killzone 2 rocked. Atleast what I've played in the demo.

[heyheyhey]

why???

Halo looks like ass, Killzone 2 rivals high-end PC games

/discussion

[The Judderman]

Stupid Comparison. Halo was built for fun first, graphics second. Killzone was built the other way round.
Killzone is great but Halo is still one of the most fun games still. Hell i played Halo C.E the other day and the game play in that still stands up even though the graphics look poor now. And that was released what 7 years ago.
Bungie will be the first to admit there game can't stand up to Killzone grpahically but gameplay wise it can hold its own.
And if you look at Halo3 the texture work up close is actually pretty good.

[Gambit07]

While were at it, let's compare a Lambo to a Kia.

[The Judderman]

Halo3 can't compare graphically with Killzone but gameplay wise it can hold its own. Big time.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

No...

That's not true at all.

[BadboyCivic]

cant compare apples to oranges

[GamerPS360]

What kind of comparison is this ??

[marichuu]

The kind of comparison when you only own an XBOX360 Halo edition and a PS3 with the Killzone 2 demo.

[Antan]

Some people have far too much time on their hands!

[JonahNL]

You have got to be f*cking kidding me... What's the point of this comparison? To fuel an enormous flamebait? *SIGH*

[marichuu]

Probably, but nobody is biting :P

[Mike134nl]

Don't really think it's a good comparison, we all know killzone looks better than halo3.
Though in the comparison it looks better but I wouldn't say miles ahead.

Ans also why compare killzone2 with Halo3 the timeframes of the games just don't match up. next up comparison between halo2 and killzone 2.

[Tee7soo]

ftw ......

[The Judderman]

Killzone is better but i have to say looking at it now Halo3 doesn't look as bad as i thought it was opon release.
Killzone was obviously built with graphics in mind first whereas Halo was game mechanics then graphics.
Even though there both fps's they play very very differently and both accomplish what the developers intended.

[Hockey11]

That is exactly what I was thinking. So many people lead me to believe that Halo was a jagged mess but it's better than I thought.

[timestoby]

you cant compare halo3 graphics with k2. halo3 graphics were let down by all them jaggies. plus its not even 720p. killzone stomps on halo3 graphics. only fanboys will tell you diff

[Shane Kim]

I saw the headline and couldn't stop laughing.

[dukadork2]

it's really cruel but tasty: KZ2 makes halo3 look like a wii game
lol

more interesting: play COD4 right after KZ2. i didn't expect that but, KZ2 makes COD4 look really bad. the gameplay feels very similar although COD4 is faster

[Johnny Jiron]

This is just stupid. Halo 3 was never all that great looking. It wasn't piss poor, just not to its full ability.

I will give Halo3 some credit. That game was feature packed to the brim. It may not have been the most eye pleasing game, but damn did it have some interesting features.

-Many/customizble MP modes (to the point ppl managed to make their own)

-Amazing replay system. Saved replays of the last 25 matches you had in full res and with a camera you could free roam with in real time. Plus you could edit and upload the videos and Pics. Only other game to have a similar system were sports titles and Banjo Kazooie Nut & Bolts...it needs to be in every game.

-Forge Editor. PC gamers have been modding games for a long time, it's nothing new. Hell Far Cry 2 has a very nice console map editor. But Forge had sort of a Little Big Planet vibe to it in a way. Every item hads its physics in tact (very exploitable physics so not realistic)and you could do forge editing in the midst of a ongoing fight.

-4 player co-op for the entire campaign.

-Small in-door action to large open battle fields. Those scarabs were huge (obviously stunted with recent games like Resistance), but fighting from either foot, car, or airship with all sorts of mini fights scattered about made it pretty impressive.

Regardless of all that, Halo 3 wasnt really my kind of shooter game. But it had things that I wish were implemented and improved on in other games. that replay system tho is just something I hope becomes standard in consoles games. Hell maybe built into the console itself...a pretty nice next gen feature for the future maybe>

[tudors]

took a while to make, Gears 2 was out approx a year after the 1st and has better textures than KZ2, I would love to know what the Xbox-360 could produce with a 50 million budget, not knocking KZ2 because it looks fantastic but I do wander about the trade off's that are becoming apparent with KZ2, it's a mixture of really good and really bad textures, Halo 3 is not very good graphically but to compare it to a game that has a 50 million budget and has only just finally seen the light of day is a stupid comparison, KZ2 as good as it is does not quite justify a 50 million budget, one thing I have noticed with the PS3 is that it strugles with textures, yes the Cell is great for Physics and can help to hide some of the faults e.g. with brilliant animation but it is clear even with KZ2 that GG had a lot of the problems other devs have had.

[olivia]

tudors wrong,how can you make that statement like (took a while to make, Gears 2 was out approx a year after the 1st and has better textures than KZ2, I would love to know what the Xbox-360 could produce with a 50 million budget,)with games like uncharted that game is a texture beast and uc2 will prove my point even more.plus if look at gears and the unreal engine its more shiny effects and bulky characters surrounded in tight environments.look at ever 360 game that use's the engine and see for your self.and when you put in to fact that the killzone 2 demo out right now is from the preview build your comment makes no sense,you cant say the ps3 cant produce nice textures from looking at some sreen shots,and yes gears 2 took a little over a year to make but that would make sense the engine was already done all they had to do is improve and add thats it.and last but not lease how the hell do you know for fact that killzone 2 cost 50 million...cause no one knows that for sure besides sony and gg,plus even it was 50 mill keep in mind that its a new engine so most of the time and money came from development of that engine so your statement once again makes no sense.oh here a tip for everone wait till you play the finish game on the 27 before any comparison to any full game.

[magicman0]

Gears 2 came out after only 1 year because it already had the engine. Making the engine probably is the hardest thing you can do. After you have the engine, everythin is smooth sailing from there.

You think Killzone 2 had a bigger budget than Gears or Halo? You don't know that for sure. How do you know Guerilla had $50 million?

[Arnon]

They had $60 million actually, and we know because it was stated many times.

[The Judderman]

yeah i agree that replay feature was great. Don't know why more games don't have it. Would have been great in Killzone2.

[sugard0]

Is this not the 2008 build and not the final review build they are comparing? Either KZ2 still pwns Halos ass!

I think you could still compare the 2007 KZ2 build and it would still lick the crap out of Master Chiefs batty.

[somekindofmike]

Halo 3 & Killzone 2 both have very different art style, it's like comparing Okami to Twilight princess! Either way I'd take the game with better game play any day over the game with better graphics.

I've not been a big Halo fan since the first one, the sequels were ok, but I personally didn't enjoy them as much as I enjoyed Halo1 when it was released.

Killzone 2 i've only played the demo, and it looks good with lots of potential to be a great game, but I'll make my final judgment once I've played the majority of the full version.

Either Halo 3 was a fun game while it lasted, just not as revolutionary as the original, and I've never felt compelled to play it again, apart from the occasional multiplayer game with friends.

[REALgamer]

Now let's compare Resistance with Banjo Kazooie!

Or how about Mirror's Edge with Call of Duty: WaW!

These graphics comparison articles are getting ridiculous. Halo 3 uses BRIGHT COLOURS with a focus on scale and shiny, HDR-filled NATURAL LANDSCAPES.

Killzone 2 uses GREY, DESTROYED landscapes.

How could it even be suggested that these two totally different games could be compared visually? We should wait for something that makes more sense like Wii Sports compared to Gears of War 2.

[komp]

It is getting really silliy now and not just with KZ2.

[Arnon]

Just saying... but you should totally try out Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts.. It's damn fun, and I place it's graphical qualities up there with Gears of War.

[REALgamer]

I have Banjo Kazooie: Nuts 'n' Bolts. I reckon it's a severely underrated game. And yes, it is beautfil to look at (especially the Banjoland level).

[andron]

What is the point? This easily wins the award for most pointless and stupid screen shot comparison so far. Until the next comes out...

[MK24ever]

YES!

I rest my case.

[Firstkn1ghT]

Wow, as you can see Halo 3 clearly has similar textures as KZ2 and in some instances like screenshot number 4 and 6 actually look better. A few reviews have stated that KZ2 has less than average textures but amazing animations.

[rbrtchng]

Why didn't they do 1080 KZ2?

Like best KZ2 vs best Halo 3. I think that'd be a better comparison.

[kewlkat007]

I think reviewers review based on what the game falls into.

These 2 games are not in the same category..where is COD or something like that anyhow if you wanna compare. Not a war torn[grey/brown] world vs a scifi bright colored game.

oh well if it makes ya feel better, I suppose, if graphics are compared then everything else will.

[Kufi-]

Funny They using Killzone 2 DEMO for Comparison to Halo 3 ....
Demo is from 5-6 mounths ago , Graph will be better in full game.

[sniper4534]

lol why compare if everyone knows what game looks better in graphics, they should compare gameplay instead

[lokiroo420]

Gameplay just hands halo another mark in the loss column.

[InMyOpinion]

Everyone knows Killzone 2 looks better. Why not do a gameplay/online activity/sales comaparison? Oh right, Killzone 2 would get slaughtered then...

[Rob0g0rilla]

You couldn't compare that until it's out for a good month.

[Rob0g0rilla]

Killzone 2's graphics doesn't have any competition on consoles. The game looks amazing when you're actually playing it. The videos don't even look as good.

[ultimolu]

...Retarded comparison.

That is all.

[AngryHippo]

.....comparison. The articles that get passed off as 'news' get more ridiculous on a daily basis.

[azmanmanz]

Pls dont compare our precious killzone2 with the sh!t

[PirateThom]

I'm going to compare Killzone 2 and Duke Nukem 3D now...

:-/

[creeping judas]

back in the day when Halo3 was coming out and the fanboys were frotthing at the mouth, we called them Halo nerds. Now we have Killzone nerds.

Unforunatly I am borderline Killzone nerd??

[souljah]

i think this comparison was made because the dude was bored.killzone 2 all the way

[macca28]

if you take this s""t onboard you really need a girlfriend,what a crap site this in becoming

[Lombax]

Makes KZ2 look bad.

I swear, if it wasn't for the occasional random actual news that sometimes comes though N4G...

SickNick85 and everyone that approved this are just making PS3 owners look bad right now. >.>

[L-a-i-n]

If you were to compare Halo just does not fit. You should try Gears of War 2. Both are dark gritty types of games. You can't compare dark gritty to bright skittles art styles. In the end Halo is Halo and Killzone 2 is Killzone 2. Different games that have a great multiplayer aspect. Fanboys need to stop being stupid and just play the games that may grace the systems they love.

[BMS84]

Offcourse Killzone 2, is looking way more better.... even with those screenshots, Killzone 2 winsin every graphical aspect. resolution is higher ,animation,physics ,lightning . Killzone 2 iis next gen, Halo 3 not.

[bnaked]

LMAO!!!! I'va only read the topic!!! Thats enough!!! Worst comparsion ever!!!!

[Vip3r]

If you were to line out all the dollar bill that Microsoft has payed developers for exclusives into a line, that is how much better Killzone 2 is compared to Halo.

[Rourker]

I think it does do water batter than Killzone, though I'm not sure how much water is used in killzone as compared to halo 3.

[NateDPG]

Dumb comparison, Halo 3 was never a graphical benchmark.

[ottoenie]

do they really take this serious? it's not a hard to quess which one looks better...
i am a ps3 user btw.

[Fakes]

Halo 3... what the hell ha ha ha,am i missing something.

[dale1]

halo was 640p i think

[TrevorPhillips]

alrite im sick of seeing these comparsion i own both ps3/360 im no fan boy i like both off course ps3 is much more powerfull i like halo i rekon 2 was the best, halo 3 was pretty crap and yea halo 3 is not 720p the game runs at 640p so yeah and i have the new killzone 2 demo i thought it was the best looking game hands down. and comparing 2 year old game with KZ2 is just stupid but i still rekon KZ2 looks better then gears of war 2 for some people saying they should compare it with that game still gears 2 has no chance! so yea most games are not about graphics halo's gameplay is pretty good that wat made it so good, but halo 3 is pretty much a halo 2.5.

[Fakes]

Halo 3 should be compared graphics wise to ,Too human.

[stonecold3]

im waiting for the full retail so i can go and buy it halo3 is 2 years old and i think it dosent match the quality of killzone2 graphics

[likedamaster]

Killzone 2 = Gray and blurry

Halo 3 = Clear and colorful

[snoopgg]

I think you meant

1 Grey and Blurry and Glitchy ==== Gears of War 2
2 Grey and Clear perfection====== Killzone 2
3 Low textured skittles graphics ===== Halo 3

[likedamaster]

Well, I have more bubbles than you.

[PR3DAT0R]

Yeah killzone is blurry because it uses a graphical realistic effect called motion blur, it gives a real sense of realism and momentum in the game.

oh and the its only really the geometry that is Grey and that is because of the war going on at helgan, if you didn't know, war zones aren't normally colorful.

[Magic_The_Celt]

Killzone 2 = Gritty, realistic, war
Halo 3 = GO GO POWER RANGERS!

Lmfao, oh and i have more bubbles than either of you.

[PR3DAT0R]

LOL yeah i just gave you a positive response and an agree. You deserve it pal.

[FireJackal]

What is the point of the guy?Do you really need to make a comparison of Killzone 2 with Halo 3 to tell that a new game that was developed for more time is better than a 2 years old game that wasn't the best looking game of its time?
I guess people have lots of time to waste.

[bneals]

Games are just about graphics. If they were, then just about every PC game would be more popular than any console game. After all, I can run Crysis at far higher resolutions on my PC than any PS3 game. Games are about other things too. Storyline, depth, fun factor, etc.. Halo isn't played millions of times a year because it is the best looking game. They are tons of better games, and from the look of it, KZ2 will be far better looking in the graphics department. Halo 3 is played because it is fun. It is easy to pick up and it reminds you of the same Halo game you played years ago. KZ2 will likely rock. It looks great and reportedly has a lot of depth. That said, KZ2 is not going to "kill" anything...including Halo. If you don't understand what I am saying you are a blind flameboy.

[Salta_nelas]

What a joke...

[BiG_LU]

I'm sorry guys but this is the most absurd comparison I ever seen in my entire life, stuff like this make me don't come back to the website, please guys make article that make sense and not this waste of time.

By the way viva KILLZONE 2

PSN:BIG_LU
XBL:LUIJO XIX

[Thoreau]

should kiss his dog less, and buy a ps3 instead of defending the xbox blindly

[LONEWOLF231]

LOL at the Commodore 64 comment!

Whats next Killzone 2 vs ET for the Atari.

Seriously they should of done a Killzone 2 vs Crysis comparison and see how well KZ2 does going head to head with that beast!

[BiG_LU]

U crack me up, that $#/) u said at the beginning of ur comment was mad funny

[snoopgg]

is actually Gears of war 2. As for Killzone 2, that is grey and perfection!!!!!! Halo is a colorful, yet blurry display of skittles!!!!!!!! Killzone 2 owns both of those microsoft byproducts hands down.

[NipGrip]

Not have shadows at all or what? The enemies don't cast shadows and neither do the players it seems. It really distracts from the game making everything appear like it doesn't belong or something. Very odd.

[anubis12]

if you think graphics are everything you might as well say sales are everything also.....and halo 3 will still be on top...

[KYOZAKI]

People will put anything to press just to get hits. I've already boycotted Kotaku, I may add n4g to the list. There is a sever lack of gaming news, 1% News and 99% BS. Obviouisly I didn't click on this thinking there would be anything of worth to obtain from it. I assumed it would be a pointless article and just like 90% of posters here, my assumptions are correct.

K'+

[divideby0]

lmao...halo is an old game...KZ is a new game....how about comparing Golden Eye on N64 to KZ.

I swear some of these websites really need new staff. Allowing a dumb article like this....

[NipGrip]

Is only around 1.5 years old. It's not *that* old of a game now, don't be ridiculous people. Release date of September 25, 2007, but man it LOOKS like an old game from the N64 doesn't it! :D

I do like how they tried to somehow compare the two and it seems to have backfired.

[GarandShooter]

I'm guessing this comparison is being made due to all the 'Halo killer' BS, but that doesn't save it from being hopelessly idiotic and irrevelant.

[tatsujin]

They need to compare CoD4/5 to Killzone 2. Halo 3 is an old game, as an old game of course it will won't be able to compete with Killzone 2 and besides, CoD4 graphics pwns Halo 3.

[chidori666]

8 screnshot: KILL ZONE 2 PWNDS AND WIN GAYLO 3...... fact!

[NateDPG]

Insert any 360 title vs Killzone 2 and it's KILLZOWNED!!!

[Magic_The_Celt]

oh wow

thats so mean! it was obvious halo didnt have a chance, for so many reasons

[Condemnedman]

looks are not everything - fanboy nutters will flip but I have just canceled my pre order with play.com . I have played the demo over and over and I just don't like the feel of it, not to fork out 30 quid I'll wait to later and get it cheaper.

This is no way a slag off of Killzone just my opinion
if you don't like it I DON'T CARE

[StrikingDmc4]

lets do a comparison with a game that was in the making for 5yrs and one that was in the making for 3 years thats smart! epic fail

[jack who]

yet another dumb site goes into the block list

[omgwownoobs]

my title lol

[mega BIG time]

you just strengthened the halo > killzone2 argument

[chidori666]

hey bot... gtfo.

[StrikingDmc4]

to take this crap over to Gametrailers.....lol

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

They'd never post it.

A PS3 game looking better than a 360 game? They'd never allow it!

[VENOM OF SINS]

I understand that both consoles have their strength and weaknesses, but I don't really understand why people are even making a comparison between the two games.

Halo 3 is pretty dated now, and it has been collecting some dust on my shelf for a while now. I still think it's a great game, but the time has passed. It's like trying to pick up Golden Eye on the N64 again, it just wouldn't been the same experience I had then as I do now.

I wouldn't turn down a Lamborghini Diablo, but I rather a Murcielago- in this case, Killzone 2. Obviously with the progression of technology, you can't exactly compare the two cars, but you can say that Halo 3 was the Murcielage of it's time.

For those who still want to push the subject and compare graphics, I just have to say WoW. I'm not a fan of WoW but I can't deny it's popularity. And let's face it, the game isn't exactly demanding on the video card end. It's not always about esthetics, sometimes there's a bit of juice under the hood.

Besides, Halo 3 has much more to it's franchise than Killzone 2. Halo has 3 titles released, 2 more on the way, a stack of novels to follow the story, collector action figures, and some discussion about a movie being produced. That has to say a lot about Halo and it's fans. Killzone doesn't have that, but I would still like to be playing Killzone 2 right about now.

[TABSF]

Most or all of them screenshot would never pass at cryteks standard, Killzone 2 may be the best looking console game but PC just wakes over it big time. halo 3 is like playing crysis warhead on medium with no AA or shaders and Killzone 2 is like playing crysis warhead at high with no shaders or AA

Crysis Warhead at 2560 by 1600 thats 198% more pixels than 1080P with full AA x16q at very high or Enthusiast as its now known could not even be achieved on the PS3 and Xbox 360 put togher just the res alone would rrod the 360 and ylod the PS3

I have Crysis , Crysis Warhead and Crysis Wars I also have Halo 3 and Killzone 2 demo plus had access to Killzone 2 beta and trust me crysis could can not be beaten in the 7th gen of gaming

[fatam69]

Guys is it me or are Killzone's graphics over rated? I played the demo and man I must say I am not that really impressed. I liked the short demo and all but was it ground breaking? no. Was it anything new that I haven't played before? no. Were the graphics the best I have ever seen? no. Was it the best graphics I have seen on a console? not yet. Sure they are good but in my opinion I don't think they have better graphics than halo, but also i didn't think COD or Gears looked better because right off the bat Halo 3 had better draw distance, better water graphics, more color, and just better environment graphics.

Are the other games graphics bad? no. But the point that Killzone doesn't look better than Halo (in my opinion) or Call of Duty 4 or even Crysis. I need to play more of the campaign to see how well the story is but overall I enjoyed the demo but seriously people need to calm down with the hype of this game being so revolutionary. Hell the controls don't even feel right and to be honest I would rather play Resistance 2 over again than this demo.

[NipGrip]

You.

[DaTruth]

It's not you... It's your eyes. You clearly do not have any.

[fatam69]

haha no sir it's not my eyes.
I went back and played the Killzone 2 demo today and then went and played Halo 3. I play on a 42' Toshiba LCD HDTV with HDMI cables for both systems on 1080p so it is the same settings for both games. I still think Halo 3 is a really good looking game, maybe if Killzone had some color maybe is would be such a great abundance better?

[Morgue]

Let the media, the people that post on this site, loser bloggers and game snobs throw matches at a already dying fire. Come on!!! Halo 3 was and is garbage unless you own a 360 and still play it?? I stood in line for it, beat it within 12 hours, took my dumb snap shots, posted them and was over it. Halo is like fast food from Taco Bell, no matter where you live it's gonna taste the same and MS is gonna market it down your throat because they know it will sell.
But to compare Halo 3 to Killzone 2 is like comparing Taco Bell to REAL Mexican food. IT"S A JOKE

[mega BIG time]

I hate using the word fanboy, but it's the first word that comes to mind to describe the kids recklessly predicting Killzone2 to be the one end all fps that dominates on all consoles.

[gnothe1]

all this is, is a chance for the hardcore Sony guys to say, hey our best game looks better than your best game. no other reason!! I was disappointed in halo 3's graphics, i thought they would be better because its MS flagship game but they weren't. but at the same time KZ2 isn't the graphical beast it was hyped to be either!! I know I'm gonna get flamed for this, but in my OPINION RE5 looks better than KZ2. KZ2 has better animations an particle effects, but the overall cleanliness an sharpness of the textures an graphics look better on RE5!! but so many of you guys are wanting this to be sony's time so bad that your ignoring the little graphical shortfalls the game has!! we've had articles stating that the game surpassed the E3 trailer. WRONG!! the game looks good but that trailer was amazing. its just a bunch of crap going on around here that needs to stop!! I'm playing the demo right now an its not the best game ever!!

another thing, 1 of the problems that have been stated about this game is the controls!! a lot of you guys wanna give this game a pass on the controls just because its a PS3 exclusive!! look had bad people dogged RE5 because of CONTROLS, graphics are good an controls were bad an you guys destroyed that game. KZ2, graphics are good controls are bad, here's a free pass card, now how is that fair. did you guys dog it because of the controls or did you guys really dog it because its on the 360 an not a PS3 exclusive?

[jBat17]

laggy as hell.

KZ2 has dedicated server. Like R2 and Warhawk, no lag

[ps3 is my champion]

freaking wankers, all of you.

[ASSASSYN 36o]

Go wank off.

[BMS84]

The Killzone 2 demo is running at 720 p , final version at 1080i.
RE5 graphics are good , but not great, Killzone 2 garphics are amazing.

[The_Zeitgeist]

This comparison is like comparing the visuals of Mario 64 to Mario Sunshine. It's just pointless. There is no doubt that Killzone 2 is the best looking console game. Halo 3 has never been known for being a looker. Hell if anyone wants some really good graphics check out the game The Darkness. To me those are some of the best graphics this gen.

[Yomiro]

how come halo 3 was never compared with crysis?

[xg-ei8ht]

BMS84

Switch off all other modes, KZ2 runs at 1080p.

Tested it last night. And it works.

Alot of other games revert to lower rez.

576p/i etc

LBP if i only have 1080p ticked, the game reverts to 576i, It's protection so you can always change it.

But KILLZONE 2 runs@ 1080p

[TheOutsider]

Halo 3 just got....KILLZOWNED!!!!

[MerkinMax]

Why in gods name would they even compare the two. 360 fans know Halo wasn't a fantastic looking game, but it wasn't terrible either. The games also have completely different art styles. It's like comparing Van Gogh to Da Vinci paintings, both are great but people will look at them side by side and see a difference, and most likely throw out a WTF. This comparison is just to start fires or for someone who honestly believes that they're comparable. Halo=Fun/Features. Killzone=Fun/Graphics

[IQUITN4G]

How about comparing gameplay instead

Technically Halo3 isn't going to be as intensely impressive graphically but it's still a very good looking game

Above everything else it's the most fun iv'e ever had with a shooter, clocking in some 150 campaign missions now

Almost gave up on Halo3 as it is quite underwhelming at first but anyone here that's played the game a whole lot, will tell you how great the game is despite it's initial disappointments

Graphics are great and certainly not a negative for KZ2(unless you really don't like the palette)but if that's what the basis is for being the best fps shooter then that's a very sad and shallow argument

[zodiac909]

I don't know why 360 fans complain that ps3 fans are Bltching too much about Killzone 2, but when the ps3 launched 360 just talked SHlT about it for like a year!

[God of Gaming]

As soon as KZ does 4 player online co op and has massive open ended levels then we can compare. Why nobody gets this is strange to me... The reason H3 was not the best looking is what it did with the online portion. Plus lets add video capture in there also.

KZ2 will be a fun game but the reason it looks so good is because they kept it tight... no co op and very scripted, which is fine but that is how you gain the resources for the visuals.

[Stryfeno2]

Halo 3 Controls > KZ2 controls

Halo 3 Co-op > KZ2 Missing Co-op

Halo 3 Matchmaking > KZ2 Matchmaking

Halo 3 Party mode > KZ2 Party mode

Halo 3 Graphics < KZ2 Graphics

See what I did there?

[sak500]

Good one

Patchstation3 > Droids

[Boty]

Didn't think so, moron.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

Halo 3 controls?

What?

Also, there's no possible way you've played the final retail release of Killzone 2...ESPECIALLY the multi-player.

[b777conehead]

gears of war on 360 > red ring of death
halo 3 controls> red ring of death
kilzone2 on ps3> no red ring of death. awesome graphics and the best control ever
ps3> the best most reliable game machine in history of video games,
xbox 360> the worst video console ever made. no reliability rrod
xbox 360> a 50 dolor a year fee for crappy. lagy on line service
ps3 > free on line dedicated servers
Microsoft> should had had a law suit to fix the 360. but 360 fan boys
= stupid and except a 3 year warranty instead of receiving a fixed x box 360. the three years is a joke as they keep sending back consoles that still rrod.

[IQUITN4G]

Enjoy your graphics people

[tehk1w1]

Hey guys, let's compare the graphics from a game that came out in '07 to a game that came out in '09.

That sounds completely fair!

[Pootie Tang]

I think Halo still looks goods, in motion it works well, i think everyone expected more with the graphics but certainly not an ugly game. it did have some great lighting effects, and huge outdoor areas as well
The comparison is understand because of what each game means to their respective systems
KZ2 looks good, i just bought a PS3 last week for it, but I don't think eye candy is enough. If that were so the Wii would be long since dead

[Pootie Tang]

It would be interesting to see how ODST stacks up?

If it is better tho, all you'd hear is bigger budget, longer development, paid off reviewers, etc etc etc lol
This crap will go on forever between the 2 sytems now, well in forums anyways

[gnothe1]

guys come on, I'm all for KZ2 looking great, I got a Ps3, i got the game pre ordered, but this game is not the best game ever!! it looks good, but not as good as we were lead to believe. you guys are gonna cry foul when this game fails to sell big an never be mentioned for GOTY!! its a GOOD LOOKING game, but we were told that is was BREATH TAKING, ABOVE ANYTHING EVER SEEN, an that's just not the case. I'm not trying to take anything away from killzone but I'm not gonna give it anything either!! for me I don't care about the system I like the games.
these are my opinions
halo series= mediocre
resistance 1,2=mediocre
COD 2,4,WAW= awesome
Gears 1,2= awesome
killzone 1, never played, killzone 2, SO FAR slightly better than mediocre!!
too human= trash
I don't care about the system I just want good games. many of you are praising killzone 2 JUST BECAUSE its PS3 exclusive, a lot of the problems with this game (good an bad textures)would have been blown to pieces by you Sony guys if this was a 360 exclusive, you would tell the truth that this game didn't surpass the E3 trailer, but because its for your PS3 you wanna hide the truth an make it seem better than what it is!!

[Antan]

You have your opinion, others have theirs.....If you agree with all that you`ve just written (and your 1st post)then fair enough, Your not gonna change peoples perception of it now are you? The absolute vast majority of reviews so far point towards something more than "slightly better than mediocre".

And remember this is literally a 10 minute teaser. Its common knowledge that this particular level is one of the (if not THE) "weaker" levels. Maybe you just got sucked into all the hype, but i would certainly not base a final assessment on this demo.

[SAiOSiN]

lol kz2 slightly better than mediocre??? you're a funny guy.

[GarandShooter]

'a lot of the problems with this game (good an bad textures)would have been blown to pieces by you Sony guys if this was a 360 exclusive'

How are good textures a problem? And there's no Sony exclusives that are awesome, the best in your list is mediocre? And where are you when the 360 fanboys need calling out? Oh, I see, only Sony fanboys are blind and behave badly. Saying you own a PS3 doesn't stop you from being a 360 fanboy. You have zero credibility.

[DaTruth]

Everybody said they couldn't match the E3 2005 target render. Some say they exceeded it! They said it couldn't be done until the PS4.

PS3 = PS4 graphics confirmed!!!

[viperman240]

link isn't working

[SAiOSiN]

no comparison here.
these articles are just silly. everyone knows that killzone 2 looks better than halo. hell it's the best looking game.

[SuperSaiyan4]

Am sorry but I own both machines and Halo 3 has better colours, lighting, textures and HDR.
KZ2 has low res textures in many areas along with poor lighting, low colour palette with a very dry grey look and the lighting is that poor reflections off of surfaces do not even seem to be there. Also the shadows are hardly ever there either and only seem to appear at some points in the game.

Given Halo 3 does not have much AA overall the game looks far better than KZ2.

[Antan]

Oh dear.

[GarandShooter]

Halo 3 is not a bad looking game, but it's graphics are hardly cutting edge, even for late 2007. Halo 3's strengths are in it's features and gameplay.

[Honor_in_Armor]

I could say that Killzone 2's gameplay is far better than halo 3, because of the weighted feel of the controls, the FPCS, and because of the hit detection system. And I have played both also. To each their own.

[jkoz]

404....

[JeepCreeper86]

I run my XBox and my Playstation 3 at 1080i on my 32" Sanyo LCD HD and i can say Halo looks alot better than pictured there, IMO. But, does it really matter? Ga,es are created for entertainment, not for fighting over which is better. I can take every game made from the atari all the way up till present day and even next gen and compare them and say that i like/hate this/that about each and every game and all i see time and time again on this site is people claiming there homage to there 1 console they own... Gamers? hardly. I always have respect for people who stand up for what they beleive in, but to sit here and back a 'no-name' site like this... Come on guys. Also, if you dont play Halo, or Killzone, why are you even posting in here?

Secondly, why are you comparing graphics? How about gameplay? My vote goes to Halo.

I cant wait to get my hands on Killzone 2 but i also cant wait to get my hands on the newest Halo 3 maps and Halo 3: ODST. Im a gamer who playes all games on all systems, including my Wii and computer. You guys sit here and throw down the gauntlet for your 1 system and dont even have experience with the others you bash (this statement does pertain to everyone). Wake up... Im a gamer, most of you on here are mindless drones who only care about your 1 system, while i can intelligently compare all of them.

[ASSASSYN 36o]

It isn't xbox 360 gamers always comparing every single ps3 game to halo 3 it is you poor sony boys n girls desperate to find a game that equals the halo 3. The problem is your precious developers forget gameplay over graphics every single time.

All you sony kids cry for is purty colors and make it look better than anything the 360 can push! Well thats what the devs gave you. But they seem so consistent at sacrificing gameplay to give you sony peeps what you want that could reach halo 3. And honestly isn't it sad yet amazing you fools are comparing an old game such a halo 3! Heck thats priceless in itself. You all made my sunday on that one.

I don't care how much money was spent making killzone 2 it will fail according to the reviews and even your praising comments at beating halo 3's GAMEPLAY.

And the going for realisim is weak. I am sure real trained soilders are capable of firing a rifle on the move. Yet the devs state the reason you move like a tank is realisim. I never seen a real mech suit but I am sure it would be able to defeated by a rifle. But thats trivial ranting. No ps3 game will ever come to halo 3's amazing gameplay ability. No ps3 fps will ever allow you the ability to richochet a sniper bullet off a wall and strike a person in the head accross the map. (Halo 3 does)

No ps3 game has captured vehicle, hand to hand, and rifle to rifle combat in seamless fashion as bungie has provided in 3 games. Nothing sony exclusive devs have can bounce that ball on Halo 3's court so give it up sit on the bench and start a petition.

And from what I have read. I could go log on to COD 4 or 5 and get the same enjoyment as killzone 2. Grenades thrown, run, seak cover, fire, supress. Yeagh thats f'in familiar.

And no co-op...tisk tisk tisk. But I will play your killzone 2 and get that first hand experience when my brother mboojigga gets back from Iraq...if he even bothers to get it for his ps3. What I do know is the wait n play of old has returned for you sony kids.

Don't forget that petition...

[GarandShooter]

'And no co-op...tisk tisk tisk.'

Are you referring to CoD?

[ASSASSYN 36o]

After that long post you ask me am I talking about co-op in cod! Look at the title and re-read the entire comment then ask yourself am I talking about only cod. And only one cod game I barely discussed has co-op and thats cod waw.

[Honor_in_Armor]

but, what you just said only turns you into one of them. Ah when will you all learn?

[n4gno]

Unreal (even on ps3 : with mouse and keyboard and user content !!!!!) is better (and was, ten years before).

xbox fans have faith, but reality is different.

[smurfie4]

I got hit with a mortar while looking at the scenery in the demo.

[Ghyst]

You obviously never played killzone 2, if you are saying it has bad lighting compared to of all things halo. lol, it has the best lighting i've seen in a game, nothing comes close to killzone 2 in the lighting department.

nice try though

[koouunn]

there is no point on comparing them halo 3 is too old to compare to KZ2. u are a dumb a** for comparing these 2 games

[C_Dub]

But please don't tell me they're comparing KZ2 and Halo 3 graphics? That is just sad if someone who loves 360 so much will try so hard to make it out that H3 has better graphics when it's just not possible.

[BlackSharinganX]

dude just leave halo , halo dead already man wht else are you going to add in halo i dnt see much future of it since the last one tht came out, KZ2 great game loved way better thn killzone 1 thts for sure... textures bad? wtf are guys doing looking for bad textures wht you nail your character to the wall till you get a blint texture pisses me off, halo 1 and 2 where great they werent tht great on graphics , i wont say best multiplayer feels like you are in the moon, for me best mltiplayer ive seen for now is CoD4 its fast not on the moon, rewarding after certain kills epic it has everything, KZ2 may seem to go the same road as well, at least the story is great for now, multiplayer heard was a monster

[ASSASSYN 36o]

Halo 3 Players Online:142,970
Unique Players (Last 24 Hours):925,578
Matches Logged (Last 24 Hours):2,594,592
UNSC Campaign Kill Count:9,220,328,845

And there is the spell check by the way! It is obvious that forming a complete sentence is difficult for you. I recommend you pay attention in that 5th grade class next year when they discuss grammar.

[DaTruth]

Ya, but that just speaks to how little there is to play on the 360. I can't even get back to my old games, too many games on PS3.

[she00win99]

you want halo 3 vs killzone 2 comparison, then this is the best

http://www.sonydefenseforce...

[Belasco]

Peak potential for the 360? Are you serious? Again, Halo 3 was NEVER considered a showpiece graphically, so the comparison is weak, very very weak. You will feel pretty dumb when COD6 is released for BOTH systems and surpasses KZ 2.

[Moe_OwnZ]

hahah lmao

sickened to be an xbot owner eh?
hahahaha

[n to the b]

doesn't even make sense.

why can't most people on n4g discuss games without acting like a brainless bag of d1cks (like Moe_OwnZ here)?

[N2NOther]

This is like comparing the effects in Clash of the Titans to Lord of the Rings.

[Jaces]

Uncharted looked better than any game out there to date, explain that.

[Obama]

why compare killzone 2 to a mediocre overhyped game? Not even worth comparing.

[tonywood]

None of the Halo games looks as good as Killzone 2. Gears is close, due to the "Unreal Engine", which has made Epic's games sit alone...on top of the video game market, for so long.

Now, I loved Halo: Combat Evolved and Gears of War 1, (Except for that ridiculous automatic sniper reload garbage) so I won't disrespect these Msoft gems by saying that Killzone 2 is either graphicly or story wise destroying them. However, I do believe that the game is SICK...with great multi-player, campaign, ranking system, and graphics. Halo 3 SHOULD have looked like K2, but it clearly did not. (And I don't understand why) Halo 3 could have (And should have been) on BOTH Xbox systems, because the graphics were very similar. Now, although the same could be said for Gears, I won't be the one to do it...and here is my reason why;

1. The Unreal Engine has produced the 1st gears, with visuals that was basically, BANANAS!! I'm sure that the current MS system does not have the power to allow Cliffy B's staff to go much further.

2. It's O.K., because Gears 2 was still great! (Graphically) However, the multi-player is not better than the 1st gears. (With the exception of Horde Mode and breaking necks....SWEET!) Online connection problems, slower than dirt shotgun, and host issues are WORSE than Gears 1.

Gears 1 and Halo: Combat Evolved are in my (and anyone, who knows about games) top 10 ALL TIME games list. As a Sony customer, I believe that Killzone 2 will be able to equal these legends. However, A Halo/Gears killer does not exist..these titles have done too much to be erased from the video game archives. I think it's fair to compare K2 to Gears 1 and Halo: combat evolved because those games were developed when their developers were hungry...therefore delivering epic, genre defining (Like Resident Evil 4, Half Life 2, and Bioshock) games. Halo 2 & 3, with all due respect to their sales, were "cash cows". (MSoft forced it's customers to buy a 360 for halo 3 and graphically, it did not warrant that) Gears 2 was rushed...HOWEVER, there was some innovation to the title. For me, it just didn't deliver that "WHAT THE F!!" feeling. No matter what these dumb ass articles may try to use "Jedi Mind tricks" on, both GEARS AND HALO ARE HALL OF FAMERS....NO SUPERFAN CAN ARGUE AGAINST THAT. I hate Microsoft, but own a Xbox 1 and 360, with only Gears 1 & 2, and Halo: Combat Evolved (My number One shooter of all time!) for them. THAT'S HOW SICK THOSE GAMES ARE...WHICH IS WHAT I THINK 360 AND WII FAN'S WILL SAY ABOUT KILLZONE 2.

[blakstarz]

How the hell can you even THINK of comparing these two games....Halo wasn't even in true HD and also you are talking about two totally different types of games....Halo always had that cartoony look to it and KZ2 is just much more realistic. Both great games to play...but pale in comparison.

[tonywood]

You do know that Killzone 2 is only in 720p, right? Also, I broke down my caparison, explaining how I got to my conclusion. Didn't I just get done explaining that both Halo: Combat Evolved and Gears of War 1 were great games? I am comparing K2 to both Gears 2 and Halo 2&3, because those games are further along in the next-gen of FPS games. Look at the K2 demo (Which is NOT the final version, I might add), THEN, look at Halo 3. Halo 3 did not look as Peter Moore bragged about, (DID YOU EVER HEAR HIM TALK ABOUT THE "LUCID DREAM" GRAPHICS THAT HALO 3 WAS GOING TO HELP DELIVER??)

I don't mean to insult people on here, but I am an educated man. Everyone can clearly see what Guerilla Games has done..from Killzone, to Killzone Liberation, to INSANE looking Killzone 2. I did not dog Halo 1 or Gears 1, but their sequels were not graphically enhancing. That is what this article is about.

In fact, you shouldn't use the term "true HD" because 720p IS high definition. Sure it isn't 1080p HD, but K2 is 720p, which looks better than MOST 1080p games in the market. Look at a 720p plasma or newer 720p Sony or Samsung HDTV's. Don't they look great? Of course they do...just like ALL of the Halo games! However, K2 looks better, due to G. Game's Killzone 2 use of the cell processor, in the PS3 system...which all I am getting at. I am not going to be foolish and "blindly" say that K2 is better and Halo or Gears, just that the graphacis have evolved at a much higher rate.

[Gue1]

What's the point?

[Cynical-Gamerzus]

First off comparing these screen shots say nothing whats so ever!!!
We know the 360 has more ram! And the PS3 has Bluray!
So for large games that have hugs levels and worlds that are above 9 GB; PS3 wins !but for typical games 360 wins! (strictly from RAM advantage!!!
AND TRUST ME VISUALS ARE ALL ABOUT RAM!!!!
NOW EFFECTS and geometry and rendering HOWEVER! are all about Horsepower! and so with that said The use of SPU's make a difference but you cant show that in some screen shot morons! go F.ck yourselves now losers!!!
side by side on HDTV is the only way..
So far Killzone look good but the textures could be more Hi res!!!
but its about lighting and effect for KZ2 OWN!!
As for now The texture and geometry in Uncharted and and the details in SOME of the work on Resistance 2 is phenominal!!!
OF course GT5 is the only Only true HD game(yes actual next gen game) out there!!
You look at Gears 2 and see tons of decompressing of textures off of the 512 MB of ram and DVDROM, 360 has and the Geometry ,see how hard the 360 struggles and hicups at rendering all the data!!
can You say Maxed out!!Gears was the best to date!!Because of sheer compression and RAM!!But it topped out that's max for 360!!just a cheap budget PC for cheap folks next PC card please!..

Now go play KZ2 an wait for uncharted 2

[n4gno]

You are wrong : same amount of global ram available, but better ram for PS3 (and bluray, and cell)

[IQUITN4G]

I'm sick of this Uncharted having best graphics on a console crap that you lot spout.Iv'e played this very excellent game and it's the one very good reason i will likely get a PS3 at some point - it pains me but Uncharted is very classy indeed

It does not however sport better than anything visuals that crush all 360's efforts.It has perfectly pretty graphics that are not quite as well defined as 360's best - 360 anyway is always going to be slightly better at definition of textures, regardless of how much raw power PS3 has at lighting and geometry etc

[n4gno]

Totally wrong, you are simply a believer (just open your eyes).

Xbox360, with One year adveance, don't have a game like ratchet and clank, uncharted, mgs4, gt5, wipe out (1080P) with a simple architecture : it's simply a fact, xbox can do some pretty games, but can't compete with ps3 now.

[James Vanderbeek]

will go down in history as the most over rated game ever in gaming history..

[tudors]

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[strickers]

I'm finding this very funny.PS3 is presenting evidence of it's superior power and the gloating 360 fanboys are having kittens and presenting desperate arguements that my 4 year old could better.Bottom line is PS3 is graphically more powerful when utilised properly.The article IS a graphics comparison,not gameplay.It's not the actual graphics that I think are so impressive,but the fact that it does everything else on top.Physics,particle effects,AI,damage modelling,animation and lighting.They all add to graphics but if you look back at Gears1(a game I like very much)it always annoyed me how it was held up as a next gen poster boy.It looked better than Resistance 1 but its' physics,level size,smoke effects,damage modelling,rag doll and AI could have been done on a PS2.Resistance actually bettered it in all these areas.I played both around the same time,same tv etc.Killzone is the most "next gen" game yet,you don't have to like it.I could never argue that Halo 1 wasn't one of the technically best games at the time but I never liked it much(xcept for some death match fun)Get over it,the shoe is now slipping onto the other foot for 360/PS3 owners.If you don't like it,do yourselves a favour,buy a PS3.I have both and to miss Resistance 2 co op,ittle big planet,Left4dead or Gears2(I still need to play)is sad for any gamer.You need to play them all.

[strickers]

No gears/Killzone is not the correct comparison.1st to 3rd totally wrong.Gears 2 vs Uncharted 2 is the right comparison in November.That's fair.Both sequels,exclusives,3rd person and similar times in lifespan.

[tonywood]

You may not want to hear this, but It's evident in the demo that Killzone 2 looks a lot better than many console games. In fact, it could very well be better than both Gears 2 and Halo 3. But you know what....the next Call of Duty, Halo 4, and Gears 3, will most likely be better than Killzone 2. That is the evolution of FPS gaming.

Don't let this stuff get to you...it's just entertainment. People talk for fun, mostly without having REAL facts or proper sentence structure. I read some of the most stupid things on here, but I know it's just their point of view..rather than true and un-biased facts. I am a Sony fan, but you will never read tonywood saying that the Xbox gems Bioshock, Halo: Combat Evolved, or Gears of War are not great....BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT THEY ARE!!

[IQUITN4G]

Killzone2 will be remembered for graphics and that's really not what GG wanted i'm sure

[2FootYard]

This might be the most pointless comparison ever.

[SpartanZero]

halo 1 > killzone 2
halo 2 > killzone 2
halo 3 > killzone 2

[queerbearandchicken]

queerbearandchicken>halo
queerbearandchicken>killzo ne2flop
queerbearandchicken>jijoro

[SpikeSpiegel]

Its all about how fun it is and Halo 3 and Killzone 2 both suck. You want a fun game? Try ball in a cup! That is the best thing ever! I could play that for days on end...

[PS360PCROCKS]

hey kids of america it's hand painted wooden ball in a cup!! Mwahahahaha!! http://www.youtube.com/watc...

why spend another day not catching a ball in a cup when you could be catching a ball in a cup! Lmao!

[BMS84]

How can i play the Killzone 2 demo in 1080p?

And for everyone saying that any Xbox360 game looks better than Killzone 2 should visit a doctor.. come on , this is just ridiculous that this topic has so many posts...

[PS360PCROCKS]

who cares? Everyone knows Bungie did a lot of other things besides crazy graphics. Comparing a realistic war game to a unrealistic cartoony almost game makes no sense. Why is this even a valid comparison, why not Gears of war 2? Well either way, I'll play both KZ2 and Halo 3. For the others who feel the need to compare everything, remember you CAN'T PLAY TEXTURES!

[shocky16]

After all this halo bashing, 'Halo killer' stuff, Killzone 2 still hasn't outscored halo 3 on gamerankings. XD

[n4gno]

whoo cares about ranking ?

oh yeah, for xbots, numbers is the key :

"nanana my game sold 4 millions"
"yeah, but it's trash"
"yeah but 4 millions, and i will buy the next even its trash"

[The BS Police]

Aslong as I can enjoy myself in a game it doesn't matter.

I also don't see any other game communities making awesome screenshots in-game other than in Halo 3.

http://www.bungie.net/Onlin...

http://www.bungie.net/Onlin...

http://www.bungie.net/Onlin...

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[LinuxGuru]

When will people realize that Killzone 2 isn't just about the graphics?

The animation, AI, gunplay are all really finely tuned and are well worth any attention given to them.

Killzone 2 does not equal just fantastic graphics alone....there's other elements (all equally as valid) that make the game stand out amongst others.

[lukewind]

Of course Killzone looks better, but in terms of control and playability Halo will always be better. Killzone 2 feels like you are playing a FPS while encased in Pudding.

They spent all this time making it look pretty, but decided that gameplay didn't mean that much to them. Good job!

[Trebius]

Halo3 and KZ2 cannot be compared....PERIOD.

Different release dates.
Different Art Concept.
Different release dates.
Different release dates!

How do you compare a game released now, to a game released over a year ago??

Get real please. If KZ2 had been released at the same time as Halo 2. Halo 3 would've tried to at least oomph the graphics some more...but at the time, they didnt need to. They had a good concept, and they released it cause there's already a fan-base that likes halo and doesnt care if the graphics are better than the last.

[peeps]

This is embaressing tbh. I'm looking frwd to KZ2 as much as everyone else, but this comparison is nothing more than to cause flaming. Everyone knows killzone is the better graphical game. I mean at it's time halo 3's selling point wasn't its graphics and this is a game thats well over a year old! So whats the point in comparing them?? so you can say 'look a ps3 exclusive has better graphics than a 360 exlcusive'

I'm sorry but for me these fanboys 'defending' killzone and bashing it's 'rivals' shouldn't have any place on a site dedicated for news for GAMERS, you know people who enjoy gaming... Grow up kids, especially the guys that approved this.

[n4gno]

about halo : """"" "but has stellar gameplay, and the volume of people who play it is testament to that fact.""""& quot;"

Lol, you, like probably thousand of youngs xbots gamers (who believe in adds and biased reviews)didn't play unreal tournament ? a better halo, 10 years before...

""""Biosh ock, Unreal Tournament 3, Uncharted, and of course...crysis...all trashed halo 3's visuals in its late 2007 release... """"

you are right, but in 2007, xbots was saying "wouah, beautifull, ahaha ps3 sux, halo =1080, etc etc) it's fair to show them now how uggly it was.

[pshizle]

obviously has better graphix

but the controls are lacking big time

[resistance022]

they are supposed to be similiar things in the screenshots so its possibly to make out the differences (character models, textures, water, fire, lighting effects, etc.) They are showing like textures in 1 picture and compares it to fire

[thegood33]

So this argument is pointless. Both systems have knock out graphics... Everyone take your medication.

[Lord Vader]

ROFL = How about a feature comparison ?

4 player co-op ?
Map Editor ?
Driveable Vehicles ?
Record & Edit In Game Videos ?
In Game Share Pix for Friends ?
How much Money to Develop each Title ?
How long in Development ?
Controls & MP Longevity ?
Campaign Length ?
Dedicated Website with Realtime Stats ?
Release Dates ?

I would hope the graphics have improved from 2007 to 2009. Lol, but what happened to all those other features that came with 2007's Halo 3 KillZone ????

ROFL !!!!!

[IWentBrokeForGaming]

THE REAL TRUTH IS

Graphics are 1 thing, Gameplay is another. Halo has gameplay, while Killzone 2 has both!!!

Being a multiconsole owner this gen has allowed me to like both franchises as I feel EVERYONE should. 1 huge perk Halo 3 definatley has is 4 player split screen deathmatch, which is definatley a true bummer it has gone non-existant in many shooters this gen!.

To TRUE GAMERS these games hold their own with their own merrits. They both are a blast to play. Halo has obviously been known as a juggernaut franchise, now Killzone will finally put its foot down to become a noteable franchise!.

Both games are a blast to play because the controls, gameplay, and online WORK... and work well for them!... because in the end that is what keeps you playing any game and that is something graphics have nothing to do with!

[XDF]

Graphics = All the N4G Sony worshippers are talking about graphics, 1080P, Blu Ray storage, Cell, and whatever.

It is sad really. I feel sorry for you people. Remember TUROK 2 on N64. That game has the best graphics when it was released and guess what, N64 still lost that generation. Deja Vu.

[xTruthx]

lol Halo 3 is old kz2 isnt

[No Way]

This is a ridiculous comparison..

[bassturd]

Halo 3 didn't even look good when it first came out. Looks bland all around. These screenshots actually make it look way better than it looks when you are playing. On the Killzone 2 side...NEVER, EVER...will screenshots do the game justice. In motion, nothing looks better.

[kelvin22]

obviously the halo fans here know that killzone 2 blows halo out of the water so im seeing alot of bias but not as much as when this game got a realease date and the hype for it was at its peak sony is getting closer to depleating the bias awaiting the ps3 exclusive titles as sony gets ready to put a realease date or screenshot on it. Halo is great but Killzone is Phenomenal

[FxckOSX]

Halo3 is 600p in internal with "Tile Rendering" cheat.

[DeThEoRy]

finally halo 3 has better graphics then kz2. ive been trying to say that but know one believed me. kz2 suks balls and has horrible graphics

[Ko_Uraki]

This is a site ruled by sony fanboys.

Mass Effect 93
Gears of War 2 93
Resistance 2 96
Halo 3 90
Resistance 89
UTIII (PS3) 97
Haze 75

Do We need more?

[thedarkvault]

why the hell is N4G even in my bookmarks?
stop putting this crap up, especially as a top story.

[AbyssGravelord]

Wow and here I had thought that graphics comparisons couldn't get any stupider...

but now I have soda all over my computer screen because I was laughing so hard at the fact that they're comparing the graphics between a game that's almost 2 years old to a game that's coming out in 2 weeks.

*FACEPALM*

[gersh]

Boring.

[Aft3rKill]

this is most likely the stupid comparison i have seen. not only is it a different game on two different consoles. One game is from a year ago, the game it self has a different engine. There is nothing to compare. There is no control, we are comparing the way devs use the consoles in different time periods not what the consoles are capable of.

[pegger24]

did not beat a game in graphics that was released more than a year ago, it would be sad, but having said that, Killzone is probably going to be the defining game of this generation. It is a ridiculous game.

[otherZinc]

Comparing a game that's 1&1/2 years old to a game that isn't out about graphics only!

I say graphics only because Killzone 2 gets its @ss kicked everywhere else!

Game-play-Halo

Technical-Halo: proof; footprints for Halo none for K2; water moves when walked through in Halo-doesn't move for K2, there's more but I'll save them for later.

Physics-all Halo all the time

Co-op- 4 player for Halo none for K2

Multiplayer- is there single elimination in K2?

Forge- none for K2

Saved film- none for K2

Skulls- nothing to change the sp in K2 like skulls

Vehicle- ? we'll see what K2 has to offer

Air Crafts- again, we'll see what K2 has to offer

See, its easy to make a graphically powerful game when the game lacks many extras that keep fans playing your game for years.

Finally, if its that good, it will be the sales leader for the month of February & March: that will never happen because that demo showed absolutely nothing new, period!

[Cheeky Gamer]

Worst. Comparison. Ever.

[N4Garbage]

Well Halo 3 is missing the graphics.

Killzone2 is missing the following.

1. Relentless Marketing.
2. Co-Op (Up to 4 players online, 2 Players Split Screen)
3. Movie Editor
4. Forge (playing and designing multiplayer maps)
5. Online Vehicle Use (Banshee, Warthog, etc)
6. Arguably better controls
7. Tournaments that have reached the $1,000,000 purse mark.
8. 9,000,000+ copies sold (Nearly 50% of the entire Ps3 Install Base)
9. Customization of your own character
10. Innovation leading to some of the BEST User Created Content

Not much of a Halo fan but I put respect where it's due.

A graphical upgrade can't change a genre sorry to say it needs more....but find me any current gen FPS other than Halo3 that has been taken to an entire other creative level.

Visit Machinima or YouTube and view the user created Halo3 videos.

Through the bias and half thought assumptions...Halo 3 does more than any FPS still despite its age.

On >>>1<<< DVD9-DL I might add. =X (I'm so dead) lol.

[fatam69]

haha dude I love this but see Halo 3 ain't missing the graphics either, so it's all a win-win situation for Halo 3. Great Campaign, Multiplayer, editing, co-op, videos, screens, create your own game types and so on and it's all on a DVD-9. This is so true but Killzone will be a good game. I really enjoyed the demo, just that the graphics were so over hyped and some what of a let down when I actually played it because it is nothing that I haven't seen before.

[AliC]

This comparission is badly flawed, and pointless.

Why can't we just enjoy Halo 3 and Killzone 2 for the games they are.

[Masta Kaos]

Graphix are the numba one thng we all look forwad 2...then game play i mean if it was abt game then the shouldnt next gen consoles. Ps3 explaind from the beggng that they got the best console and i dnt knw why everybdy is shockd by Killzone2

[Masta Kaos]

Killzone 2 is the best game and Xbox owners shouldnt be jealous coz they wont be playing it....i mean PS3 is the best and always the best. We neva got jealous when they got Halo n Gears...instead they bashd on tha PS3 until Sony releasd tha increadible Hulk in it by slashng evrythn

[indyman7777]

I remember everyone talking about it looking no better than halo2 from the xbox(1) so how is it all the sudden a top graphics game? Oh self gratification for fanboys. Whats with the obvious bad halo3 picture selection? They went and pictures some bad spots for Halo3 I don't remember a single one of those locations. Are they sure this is halo3? Why don't I see Halo weapons? That does not look like a needler! What is that? If this is the best Sony has to offer more misleading lies, more irrational representations I will tell everyone I know don't bother this is getting old.

[Ghyst]

http://www.sonydefenseforce...

[monkfish]

too all the people doing the "it came out 2 years after the x-box launch as did killzone 2 for the ps3 so its a fair comparisom"

seriously....things move on otherwise why not buy the xbox as all its games by this logic will be 2 years ahead of the ps3's...

there really are some silly statements banded around on this site.

i will add to that by saying that we need a killzone 2 versus any good game out on the atari 2600 2 years after it launched comparisom....still fair...no..

[Dimitri]

Dont even expect COD6 to beat Killzone 2 in terms of graphics.. XBOX 360 is the main barrier between the real graphics and us. Too bad so many people buy that sh1t.