Enough about Gabe Newell already!

Justin Kemppainen, Minnesota Games Examiner, writes:

There has been an idiotic level of press recently regarding some of the statements that Gabe Newell had made over a year ago regarding the PS3. Yes, in a Game Informer article he called the PS3 a "waste of time," and suggested that "they should just cancel it and do a 'do over,'" as well as speaking about "stop selling this and stop trying to convince people to develop for it."

He is saying in a less politically correct and tactful fashion what other developers were thinking a mumbling. Remember, that when it first came out there were other complaints of the PS3's difficult architecture. Since then, it seems that the game developers have started to figure it out and even praise it.

[pwnsause]

NO. The roasting will continue until he either:

1.patches the orange Box PS3 version

2. Brings Left 4 Dead to the PS3

or

3. Apologizes about his remarks on the PS3.

until then, let the roasting of this fat A** continue.

[Chris399]

If you are a person exposed to the media, and you make silly/ charged comments, you had better be prepared to:

A.) Apologize.
B.) Face the wrath of the INTRAWEBZ.

And in all fairness, someone obviously this out of control of his own behavior really shouldn't be offering his opinion to anyone. It's like an alcoholic giving you advice on how to be successful in life.

Stick to making games, Gabe. Not statements to the press; that's what his handlers (if he has any) are for.

I really have to go play the KZ2 demo now. To be honest, L4D or anything else Valve has recently made isn't even on my radar.

[no-spin]

for being unprofessional and irrational
:)

[doG_beLIEfs]

He is a game developer. He acted like a fanboy spouting that crap. Now if he can dish it out, he should be able to take it back. He said the same thing basically about the PS2, he must have it out for Sony for some reason.

If and when he apologizes to Sony about what he said, then we will let it go.

Imagine, if a Sony only developer said the same thing about the 360, would we hear the same thing about letting it go?

NO FRAKING WAY

With each passing day...those comments look dumb and dumber, Forrest Forrest Gump.

[chaosatom]

He is probably trying to Imagine Playing Killzone 2 in his Hand.

ROFL.

[xwabbit]

Agreed

[CaseyRyback_CPO]

and decides that those developers are wasting their time because the PS3 is useless, is nothing else other than a complete idiot.

Although, he said it back in the day when it was the popular thing to bash the PS3's hardware due to terrible ports, so he literally fit right in with the rest of the grade. BUT considering how OLD the source engine is, its not much of an insult coming from Valve. Yea, HL2 was great when it was new, and on the PC. It benchmarked many many machines. 5 Years later, its not quite the technical marvel that it once was.

If someone like Kojima or hell, even CliffyB said the PS3 wasn't worth it, perhaps you'd listen. But this guy? Has he SEEN L4D/POrtal? Good games, but I'd argue COD4 runs circles around them.Infinity Ward managed to do it, and many others have made superior products on the PS3.

Look at him, then Look at Killzone2, and just laugh. At this point i think even MLB The Show runs circles around the source engine.

[Max Power]

it is very apparent that Gabe doesn't like to do something hard, just look at him and you can see that he doesn't like to do anything that is considered complicated. I know its a weak joke against his weight, but you can obviously notice that if its hard or 'complex' he won't do it or he won't like it.

[sirbigam]

That fat slob can choke on a corncob for all I care, can never forget how thoes mofo's screwed us over with the ps3 half-life 2 port. They burned us hard, & this imbecile had the nerve to make the statement he made after he already screwed us over.

[pswi60]

fyi, the author of this article wrote a 'ps3 is teh doomed' article a couple of months back, just so everyone knows.

if you read the article, it is dripping with ps3 hate.

[morganfell]

If he is going to stick it out there then he needs to be prepared to get it whacked off.

If you want to be the media figure and throw stones then you need to be man enough when someone shoulders a boulder, rubs pitch on it, sets it on fire, with spikes sticking out of it, rolls it into a trebuchet and lobs it over the castle walls to crush your fat ass.

[pumpkinpunker]

Sony went from first to worst in one console generation wih the PS3!

They sure showed Gabe what is up! Maybe for an encore Sony can manage to sell even less PS4s and rub it in Gabe's face even more.

Reality check, guys. With all of Sony's brand recognition and how much market share they had in the gaming industry only a couple years ago, the PS3 is a failure. But I don't know, maybe it was Sony's plan to be in last place.

Gabe was right.

[Why dis]

Pathetic.

[XxZxX]

if the media couldn't get him for his idiocy, his cholesterol will.

[MasFlowKiller]

Is not his fault, please stop making fun of Gabe Newell

http://media.photobucket.co...

[Rock Bottom]

Didn't he said he wold like to make a game/port for the PS3, about four months ago?

Give the guy a freaken break, he makes awesome games. here's an article where he said future PS3 ports should be developed in house by Valve and not be given to other developers like what happened with the Orange Box.

http://www.n4g.com/News-193...

[zanthox]

GJ rock bottom, you just proved how stupid everyone here is for screaming bloody murder about a year old news they weren't smart enough to realize wasn't current. Had he said this now I'd be obliged to agree with them somewhat, but since it was a year ago and WAS FAIRLY TRUE THEN, and has since said (in that above link) that he DOES want to make ps3 versions these people really are making right fools of themselves. burn them bridges guys, burn em good.

[BattleAxe]

Give us a good Left for Dead Port and we'll call it even :)

And if Valve decides to patch The Orange Box, then I think that I would actually buy it.

[morganfell]

One guy's blog automatically rules over every other public thing that has repeatedly spewed out of Newell's fat mouth?

Where does he say he wants to make PS3 games. Get some new glasses.

Grammar 101 Need to does not equal wants to. And it never happened anyway.

Was TF2 developed by Valve for the PS3? Was it?

http://www.psu.com/Valve-co...

When asked whether EA would support the transplanting of content to the PS3 version, Newell responded: "They're not doing ongoing development on The Orange Box for the PS3." Lombardi went on to state: "We don't have PlayStation developers."

Notice the dates?

Have a nice day. NEXT!

[Leathersoup]

The behavior of all of these people trashing Gabe exemplifies how immature they are. Nothing more.

[Real Gambler]

But they may come from 12 years old... As far as I know, Gabe is NOT 12 years old, and I don't consider his comments mature. Valve was an awesome company, thanks to him, but now it's time HE get out and somebody else take the steering wheel!!! He is truly a bad image for Valve (not talking about how fat he is...). This company is at a turning point right now. But currently, they have a huge fishing problem, stealing account problem, and image problem. And he is not doing anything to help fix that. Sorry, but in my book, Gabe has to go, his greatest years are behind him. Best thing that could happen to Valve is if some big outfit would buy them and get rid of him.

[Leathersoup]

The reason that this is occurring is not because of Gabe Newell. Gabe is simply the easiest target for everyone to throw their blame at because he's pretty much the only person at Valve that anyone knows of. The reason this is occurring is that most of the N4G PS3 fanbase were counting on getting a port of Left 4 Dead because of some rumor and, instead of waiting for any sort of verification that it would be released, they felt it was an opportunity to shove it in the face of the 360 users. Now that some doubt has been cast on the rumor, these people feel slighted by Valve, who had made no announcement whatsoever as to any sort of plan to make a port. They should not feel slighted by Valve they should be angry at themselves for being so not waiting for rumors to be confirmed before accepting them as fact.

[XxZxX]

Leathersoup, you got it wrong. @ssh0le with a running mouth is always the easy target.

[Leathersoup]

Right and now everyone here is running their mouths. Should that make you all targets as well?

[cayal]

"Sony went from first to worst in one console generation wih the PS3!

They sure showed Gabe what is up! Maybe for an encore Sony can manage to sell even less PS4s and rub it in Gabe's face even more.

Reality check, guys. With all of Sony's brand recognition and how much market share they had in the gaming industry only a couple years ago, the PS3 is a failure. But I don't know, maybe it was Sony's plan to be in last place.

Gabe was right."

Reality Check.

PS3 - 10 million a year sold
360 - 9.3 million a year sold

I bet your little fanboy world just shattered.

[TheColbertinator]

It was an Edge interview not Game Informer

[Shaka2K6]

Call Jenny Craig.

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[GiantEnemyLobster]

Good luck trying to convince the PStards to shut up about him.

[THC CELL]

F**k him

[BLUR111]

ewwwwww

[caffman]

not my thing but power to you if he's your thing!

[Godmars290]

The flaming will continue.

[Why dis]

You mean as soon as he jumps on Sony's bandwagon and stops having a preference he wont be attacked.

[Godmars290]

Or he starts making Wii games.

Really, with all the stuff on Steam you think they could port a pop-cap style title to the DS even.

[Max Power]

or he realizes that he was wrong and can imagine the amount of extra cash that can be obtained via the ps3 and the games he makes.

[Why dis]

LOL you can back after 8 hours to see if your trolling set the tone in here.

Gabe doesn't really make PS3 games this is the reason you care even though there is no reason for you to be informed about Gabe.

Do you see 360 fans hunting down PS3 devs tha thas praised PS3 while taking jabs at the 360? NOPE...

EDIT:

LOOK THE STALKER ONCE AGAIN IS COMING AFTER ME LIKE A ANGRY CHILD SEEKING REVENGE.

[pswi60]

it's only a matter of time. after the 360 hits the bargan bin in 12-24 months, valve will have no choice but to start developing games for the powerhouse that is the ps3.

although they may be last gen graphics because their source engine is outdated, they won't be able to hit their sales goals by selling to a declining 360 base and not to increasing numbers of ps3 owners.

[Godmars290]

No,

But I see them begging for MGS4. Lording any mention of Kojoma that connected to the 360 as a complete abandoning of the PS3 "for the better system."

And you will note, neither Kojima nor Konami have said anything bad about any console. hat Kojima alone has more game titles to his name than Valve.

Lastly, if you're accusing me of stalking, you're going on my ignore list. All you ever say is the exact same thing, so there's no point in listening to anything new have to say, Since it isn't.

[morganfell]

The PS3 easily beats the 360 in the graphics department with several SPUs tied behind it's back. What is Gabe saying about Valve when they can't make a game for the console with the highest visual fidelity.

I swear, it's ridiculous. He sounds just like the fox and the sour grapes. Rather than risk Valve's image, he chickened out and started throwing rocks. It amounts to nothing less than developmental cowardice.

[pumpkinpunker]

So what? Even if it was true that the PS3 has better graphical ability, and this is highly debatable, than the X360 it doesn't mean squat. The original Xbox had better graphical abilities and better specs than the PS2 and I don't see all these Sony fanboys who are all of a sudden so concerned with graphics singing the praises of the Xbox as the best console of its generation.

Won't happen because every Sony fanboy was in love with his PS2 even though it was technically speaking the least powerful console of its generation as far as graphical output, memory, and numerous other benchmarks compared to the Gamecube and the Xbox. Now, Sony says graphics and specs are suddenly ultra important and the line of lemmings forms behind Kaz Harai and his march to last place.

You guys need to get a grip and stop being hypocrites. A third grader could punch holes in the arguments of 99% of the Sony fanboy posts on N4G.

[cayal]

No one cares if Valve doesn't make PS3 games. No one got on Bioware's jock for making 360 only games (thus far).

It is his unprofessional manner in blasting the PS3 as well as being a fat lazy turd that people make fun of him/can't stand him.

[ultimolu]

He should apologize. His remarks were uncalled for and above all...stupid.

[morganfell]

Yeah but he doesn't compare to the jackassery from that 15 year old writer from Ripten. Did you see that link in the article? We went over to that site last year over another issue and just shredded their asses. Their head editor - a class A moron - actual tried to defend the idiocy at that place, pathetic.

[solidjun5]

I would love to read that.

Ripten will defend anything. i mean take a look at the crap Dan Landis be writing. If they can defend that bush league writing then I'm not surprised.

[morganfell]

http://www.vgchartz.com/for...

The article in that post was written by a punk named Dan Landis. I went over there last year and single handedly eviscerated that weenie and force fed him his own entrails. His editor came on and tried to defend him and walked right into the old Missouri two step. Talk about being poleaxed.

I do not mean it was a mass of people attacking in waves but rather the laser like precision of the comments remarks by visitors that completely disemboweled Landis and revealed him to be the snot nosed idiot that he is. That site deserves to be trashed because you can see it is nothing more than some malcontent high schoolers with access to the internet.

Every time the editor (calling that individual by that title is a joke) puts a lid on Landis, someone let's him open his fat mouth and he makes a pathetic ass of himself all over again. I haven't had as much fun as I did slapping him around since I discovered all of those pictures of the clubbers (won't use the vernacular for them) with 50 pounds of hair gel we were laughing at over at Sherdogs MMA site.

Seriously, that thread at Sherdogs has been running for some time and I cry every time someone adds to that because it is so hilarious.

[morganfell]

jon, I sent you a pm with the link. The poster there named sodapopinski will have you in tears and you will be laughing like hell. You will probably never want to go near New Jersey...ever. Those motivational posters were some of the funniest crap ever made funnier because those idiots are actual people.

[Pennywise]

Gabe is the most unprofessional dev ever. People praise valve for Halflife, which is a classic... but their best game -CS was not even made by valve. They might of bought the guys that made it, but Valve has continuously proved this gen they are behind the times. L4D was mediocre at best.

[hippo24]

So they promoted creativity...and thats bad.

[iLemon]

If Valve is such a mediocre dev and the ps3 is the new hotness, why are so many fans getting their panties in a knot over Gabe's comments?

[zag]

They have also bought out a few other mod teams as well.

The problem with valve and I said this on another site is that half life was a modded Quake II engine source engine is probably just a another more modded version of that engine.

Valve haven't made a lot of the stuff they have sold, They would be making a fair bit of cash off that steam distro system, but in terms of half life stuff it's nothing major really the only mod they made themselves was team fortress, the rest have been done by other people.

I guess those mod teams are happy to be bought out as that's sort of the point of doing mods is to get noticed then picked up by a game studio, it is 1 way of getting into the biz with out uni degrees and stuff.

[zagibu]

I am ashamed that I share three letters of my name with you. Everything you said was complete bullshit.

Half-Life is not only famous because it was a technical masterpiece, but also because it was simply a great game, in every aspect.

Source engine shares no line of code with Quake 2 engine.

Mods are not mainly developed because their makers want to get employed by a game developer.

[Wife Of The Bad Guy]

Y'know looking at Gabe Newell makes me hungry for Pork

[pav2323]

"Goiter"

[Leio]

I´ll think about it when he can see his feet lol

[Bad_Karma]

while they still make Twinkies the chances of him seeing his feet are very SLIM .

[HDgamer]

He's a fanboy in the gaming industry. It would be different if he gave his honest non biased opinion about the console like David Jaffe would. But no, he has to go the fanboy route with excuses. Just like he did with the ps2. It doesn't matter it just means he's losing money, I'm sure an extra 20 million people who are willing to spend $60 on his game wouldn't force him to change his mind.

for the fanboys 20 million people * $60 games = 1200000000

Now we all know that most people in that crowd won't buy it, so let's just say half of that number. They would make a killing, but extreme ignorance and fanboyism is a consequence to old untalented devs who complain.

[djtek184]

f**cktard!

[farhsa2008]

until he cuts down on the donughts or apologizes, (i would put money on the latter) this won't stop.

[Ausbo]

are all you ps3 fanboys living underneath a rock! Valve didn't make the orange box for the ps3. EA did it. They will not patch it because they didn't make it. Oh yeah and everyone who says l4d is crap has been smoking too much pot.

[cmrbe]

about apologizing to Sony but i want an apology for PS3 fans for implying that we are stupid for buying a PS3.

He is a paid professional and i expect him to act like one. To make matters worse he didn't create anything for PS3 fans and then he said what he said. It's ok to dev exclusively for the x360 and PC but Gabe should have really shutup about the PS3.

Nah. I agree that we should continue to roast the fat pig.

[zeph94]

yes, fatty mc bong bong better give us L4D

[Darkseider]

Cartman Sr. got his feelings hurt? Quick someone send a box of donuts as an apology. Ooh no even better some cheesy poofs!

[Ldubbz]

You guys all sound like some b!tches...LMAO! Gabe is a FANBOY! Hahahaha...you guys are great!

I think some of you REALLY take this bull personal sometimes....too funny

[Why dis]

No one really cares what PS3 fans think Its just funny to see supposed grown men get all emotional about it like a woman scorned.

Gabe has his opinion leave it alone, this goes back to what I was saying about PS3 fans with their reputation killing malice and how most the media fears them resulting in dishonest Sony support.

[solsub]

You really are an idiot.

[Why dis]

Go to the openzone.

My comment hit home? lol

Poor comprehension skills?

Examples:
*PS3 fans will kill a reviewer for good and not great scores in game reviews.

*If devs say PS3 is hard to develope for they get smeared same with not liking PS3 so on and so on.

DID you even read PS3 fans comments in here? Go read #1's comment and re-read my comment you're replying to lol.

I'm sure you read PS3 fan comments in here before you read my comment then you said this "You really are an idiot." The irony...

[HDgamer]

Buyers and Customer's have the right to complain but seeing how Gabe has never made a ps3 game his word is as credible as a fanboy claiming to own both consoles but yet portrays himself as a gamer when he/she flames other users for their opinions.

[Monkey521]

Not trying to start an argument, but you seem to start to get defensive when it comes to fanboy wars. If you really don't care, don't post on it. It'll save you bubbles.

[cayal]

"You really are an idiot."

You get bubbles.

Why Dis - We get it. You're a fanboy. You continue to spout nonsense as fact and you just sound like an idiot. Microsoft aren't going to pay you to defend them so give it a rest.

[ElementX]

As a Minnesotan, born and raised, i must say that I've never heard of the Minnesota Game Examiner. Why has this source been the subject of so many articles lately? If I haven't heard of it, it must be a minor site and in no way should be represented on N4G

*edit* ok they should have their say but if a local hasn't heard of it, such a minor site's opinion should be taken with a grain of salt

[Sibs]

You haven't noticed? Fanboys on both sides manage to scour the internetz looking for something remotely pro so-and-so console or con so-and-so console daily... it's called flamebait and it sells well so until we stop reading it, we will be seeing a lot more of it.

It seems they Google the same phrase every day and check through 28 pages or so of junk until they find their "jewels". I'm sick of it.

On the other hand, you should read the Minnesota Game Examiner more often. =]

[Parapraxis]

Saladfax, aka: Justin Kemppainen, the writer, submits his own farticles.

As for the article, it sounds like little Justin got his feeling hurt when people attacked Gabe.

EDIT: removed nasty bits, due to Justin being respectful in the comments.

[Saladfax]

I read the article about "PS3 Shuts Up Gabe Newell," and I felt that it was a steaming pile of unintelligible garbage. This was mostly just a response to it.

[Parapraxis]

I know man.
But it's just flamebait responding to flamebait.
The original article from hydolix on HipHopGamer.com was awful. Like the rest of his articles.
You at least have some writing skills and knowledge of the industry.
Sometimes you step into the realm of fanboyism though, sorry m8, but you know it's true (not sure if you recall our previous interactions).

Personally I don't think Gabe deserves defending.
On the other hand, the original article was NOT needed either.
Neither are doing gamers any good IMO.

[Saladfax]

No, you are probably correct in your assessment, but I was irritated by that article and didn't want to put anything in the comments and give the thing more attention (although I suppose a response article doesn't really help either).

It may not seem like it, but I do try to avoid writing things that are deliberately antagonistic. Sometimes they end up that way, but I try to editorialize based upon my actual opinion and reason as opposed to flamebaiting. Oh well.

Oh, and the less-tunnel-visioned-than-you- might-think gaming is going just fine =)

[cayal]

"but I was irritated by that article"

Congratulations of being an unbiased writer. You'll go far...

The original 'article' was a blog from a website where anyone can write one. But we all know where your fanboy heart lies, with all the ridiculous 'Sony is doomed' rubbish going on, where we you? There were a hell of a lot more of them then ONE Gabe Newell article that has appeared in the last 6 months.

[Saladfax]

Really? Unbiased writer? On an opinion article?

Did you honestly say that?

And I was there, during the PS3 bashing. I'd post a link but that's not allowed here (it was a "disappointed with ps3 article).

[cayal]

You know it is possible to write an opinion article without being a fanboy douche. It's called facts, you use them to put across an opinion piece without being seen as a bias moron.

An idiotic level of press - No there hasn't. You linked to a site from hiphopgamer about a blog some unknown wrote. Wow that is HUGE press.

PS3 fans have finally achieved the huge victory they've been waiting for. - You mean aside from Uncharted, Metal Gear Solid 4, Little Big Planet? Or taking exclusives like Bioshock away from Microsoft.
And you call it 'one win' and that hasn't even come about yet. Fantastic bit of information there.

Seriously, who cares? Well apparently you do. YOU'RE the one writing an 'article' about it based on one blog from some other fanboy. Talk about mountains out of molehills.

You are one horrible 'journalist'. Next time do some research and leave the fanboy hat at your mum's house.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

They will keep coming.

Gabe Newell is a great developer...

...but he went too far.

[Stationfan]

Anoyone agree that he looks like someone you would see on To Catch a Predator,

[eyeDEVOUR]

he looks like the human " Peter Griffin "......but not as intelligent....lol

[Neo604]

making dumb comment is.

[thematrix1298]

As a revenge Sony Developer should tell him to do 10 push-ups....fock you Gabe...eat 3shyty

Oh and PS3 fans don't give a shyt about your games....haha torrents mofo!

[Contrabandz06]

he looks like a Boomer

[SpikeSpiegel]

Maybe people will quit talking about him.

[cayal]

No one has spoken about him for god knows how long all of a sudden two articles pop up.

[Godmars290]

Name one game, good or bad, that they've done that isn't a FPS or based on the HL engine. Just one.

[solar]

um....Valve is a FPS developer. like id Software. what does sticking to one genre have to do with being a great developer?

as for a game that Valve has done that wasnt on a HL engine....HL1. it was done on the Quake 1 engine. as was Opposing Force, Blue Shift, DoD, TFC and CS til 1.6. CSS, HL2, Portal, TF2, L4D, DOD:S those were all Source Engine games :D

OF and BS were developed by Gear Box.

what games by Epic werent FPS/TPS that didnt use an Unreal engine? now thats a question id like to know.

@5.3

they ARE one of the best PC developers period. saying that a developer cant be great by sticking to one genre is foolish.

[zanthox]

This is relevant why? name a square enix game that isn't a jrpg, or a bioware one that isn't a rpg... I bet tom clancy games all suck cuz they are all shooters. That is a stupid point. You make what you are good at. Epic updates the Unreal engine when they need a better one to keep up and Valve updates Source as needed as well.
I think its odd that Gabe is getting all this when Blizzard makes PC games exclusively and regularly mocks the idea of putting them on consoles, just check out their past april fools jokes!

[Godmars290]

Because most of the pro-Valve people are saying they're the greatest devs period. They have to have done something other than on genera to be anything close. Even Square stared off by doing a racing game.

Also, if you want specifics, I was asking for something other than a FPS. Which I'm still waiting for.

[Saladfax]

All right, now name a 360 game that doesn't use the Unreal engine. (yes I know there are a bunch, but lots do)

Fine, now name a Blizzard game that isn't Starcraft, Warcraft, or Diablo...craft (if you start naming games before '94 you're an idiot; Lost Viking doesn't count).

[SWANN]

What? with all the mouthing off he's been doing beside eating fast & junk food He bad mouths Sony & the PS3? Gabe Newell is a fat phuck! Other than that, with that removed, I guess he's alright.

[trancefreak]

Yo gabe wheres hlf2 ep3 wtf is taking so long????

[Babble]

Ironically the article itself is about the topic the author wishes to move onwards from.

[OhReginald]

....before he eats up everyone.

[hippo24]

So even though a great killzone demo came out today the ps3 fanbase is in full force.

I really dont know why we continue to grill this man.

[cmrbe]

first he dosen't dev anything for PS3 fans. Then he openly insults everyone that has anything to do with the PS3 and continue on doing so.

Does this answer your question?.

[solar]

he critized it what...over a year ago yet fanboys are still whining over his comments. get over it. its a free fvcking country. waaaaaaah!

[Bathyj]

Well he continues to be an unsupportive prick as if to just poke tongues at us.

Besides bot d*ckheads are still whinnying over a trailer for Killzone shown in 2005. I've had family members die and get over it quicker than that.

[dukadork2]

it is because of the kz2 demo that people are after his ass.
now everyone can see with their own eyes how full of sh!t he really is.

he trashed the ps3 as a waste of time and now look at what it's capable of! then he supports zealously the 360 which is the biggest consumer electronics swindle in history with over 33% failure rate: F@CK him.

i liked halflife a lot but that is no excuse for total douchebagness.
he's become complacent and he's getting his ass whooped publicly by a hugely talented european dev fair and square.

they make him look sooooooo stupid, lol!

[zanthox]

One developer doesn't like a specific system so he OWES you something? I'm guessing Warner Brothers owe everyone who bought a HD dvd player money because they knew it was stupid and decided to support only bluray?
I love sony and ps3 but I'm not a fanboy. why? because I don't flame anyone and everyone who doesn't love my system. I suppose he went a bit far-- He doesn't want to make games on a system he doesn't like! WTF! HE WONT SPENT HIS MONEY ON SOMETHING HE DOESN'T WANT OR NEED TO DO! OMGSH HATE! stop being jealous pricks. stfu.
I am also not a 360 fanboy. mostly because I don't like xbox, but also because I don't mock people like I'm in 2nd grade; 'step away from the doughnut, fatty!' but he owes you an apology? grow up.
This author may not like the ps3, but at least he is intelligent. Gabe said this when EVERYONE was saying it. Well, everyone but the people being directly paid not to. He is just willing to say it outright instead of grumbling and making crap ports like way to many of the ps3 versions of games have been.

[solar]

ive been trying to reason with the Sony fanboys since all the hate towards Gabe and Valve started. stop wasting your breath. they have this mental disorder where logic is not present. or retarded whatever you wanna call it.

hell try criticizing MGS4 or another ps3 exclusive on this site. its like you broke into their house and raped their mother. poor babies. i feel bad for them.

[cmrbe]

Do you think he has the right to degrade the PS3 without actually creating something on the PS3?.

So just because everyone was bashing the PS3 then its ok for a respected dev like him to do so the same?.

I honestly don't care about Valve games as i am not a FPS fan.

[solar]

"Do you think he has the right to degrade the PS3 without actually creating something on the PS3?."

being the Valve fanboy i am....no. Gabe shouldve kept that big mouth of his shut. keep your personal opinion on a high level piece of hardware to yourself. does he have the right to say what he wants? sure. free country. but get ready for the consequences. i dont understand why ppl are such p*ssies now a days and actually care so much. i mean seriously. grow a pair.

i just laugh at the ppl here who have no idea about how Valve operates and like to bash Gabe for his weight. the FPS genre is what is is today because of him and his company. HL changed gaming. yet the idiots would rather focus not on what Valve has done for all of us who love gaming, but some stupid comment Gabe made when he shouldnt have.

@10.4 personally i dont think they so. sure they can criticize all they want for what he said....but to proclaim Valve as a whole as lazy, untalented, PoS developer is out of line. gamers know better than that. fanboys dont. and this site is full of them.

[cmrbe]

everyone knows how big of a contribution Valve has made to FPS and gaming in general. I think this is all the more reason people are upset about what he said. Especially when he has done Jack sh1t for PS fans.

If he was a no name dev no one would have remeberd what he said. Freedom of speech is good but be prepared for the consequences of what you say. Again i have no problems with Valve dev exclusively for x360 and PC but he shouldn't have said what he said.

[cayal]

"ive been trying to reason with the Sony fanboys since all the hate towards Gabe and Valve started. stop wasting your breath. they have this mental disorder where logic is not present. or retarded whatever you wanna call it.

hell try criticizing MGS4 or another ps3 exclusive on this site. its like you broke into their house and raped their mother. poor babies. i feel bad for them."

And trying criticising Gears or Halo and you get the same thing. Don't act like it is a one way street. It's just ignorant.

[stonecold3]

software developer and give this guy another job picking up the garbage

[ApocalypseShadow]

as they are the ones that seem to be struggling the most when it comes to making games for ps3.and to a lesser extent,360.

they were losing money,going broke or having their games pirated by gamers.and then they looked at how much console devs were making and wanted to join the party.problem was that they didn't prepare their companies for the transition and started to complain.but it wasn't the system's faults.it was their lack of ability.

there were devs making games for ps3 that were not owned or helped by sony.and they released their games.the only excuse some of these companies have are that they are too small and don't have the resources or lack the man power.

carmack has never made a console game,but claimed it was better making 360 games over ps3 because it was easier.but easier isn't always better.most chip companies were moving towards multi-core design.the one chip programming way was and IS dying out.if this guy was so smart,he should have been ready.

same with devs like gabe.valve is not big or has tons of money.they just wanted to ride the source engine cash cow to big riches.but ps3 showed them that they can't just port crap over and have it work easily.

that's the thing about ps3.it divided the industry between those that CAN program and those that CAN'T.it showed that their knowledge was lacking and that they had better step up or fall by the wayside.even known ps2 supporters like namco,capcom,etc,are struggling to keep up with what sony was trying to do lead by ken k.

i applaud sony for pushing these lazy bums.because i'd rather get REAL next gen games on consoles that push 40-60-256 players,multiple objects onscreen,great lighting,bigger areas,better sound,A.I.,animations and textures than the PC porting crap that we see going on with 360.same with gamec....woops...wii.we see nintendo's system getting ps2 ports and GC ports but not one dev is pushing the envelope on what wii can do.just lazy programming.

keep pushing sony.show bums like gabe that next gen started with ps3.and that sony fans won't stand for pitiful attempts at next gen with just a new coat of paint.or ports of lackluster quality games given a new chance in a new market where some gamers don't know quality from qauntity.

apocalypse..........

[no-spin]

that photo looks like the fat zombie on L4D
nice, gabe was the inspiration lol

[bigjclassic]

is the only Wii dev that is trying to push the envelope, well
besides Nintendo themselves.

[Substance]

In that picture above, it looks like Gabe is pretending to be holding a twinkie.

[solar]

eh. the whiners will complain and hate and call Gabe names....while i enjoy the great games his company releases. whine on haters. waaaaaaaah!!

cry some more.

[user3915800]

Only PS3 homo think of been right, bunch off nut sacks cant see past the BBQ grill. Its true waht he said that the PS3 its Garbage and there its nothing that we can do about it. This is nothing but a bad port blu gay player for blue gay Moth!r F@ckers like yourself probably and if you dont like it you have 2 choices report me or suck on that masculine finger avatar that I have. And killcrap 2 sucks D!ck.

[PR3DAT0R]

The only thing good that came out of valve was half-life 2 with the source engine, the engine was only good at that time though now it is outdated and old, and as for you sir you are a idiot, moron and now a fiend, you have no valid reasons why Sony, killzone and the ps3 in general is bad, and do you know why?, because there are none. your just stupid end of.

[Kassanova07]

F**k this fat fAck. Half-Life rules however :)

[zanthox]

I'm not sure if I agree or disagree with you more! XD

[TheOutsider]

Look at his pic! he's asking for another cupcake! NEWELL THE HUTT!!

[NegativeCreep427]

His complaints against the PS3's architecture were unprofessional and seriously sounded like they were rooted in fanboyism. He may have had a negative outlook on the PS3 back when he made that comment (along with practically the entire gaming media) but just like Microsoft he'll eat his words eventually (and what I mean by that is Microsoft's criticisms towards Sony including HDMI in the PS3, and their eventual incorporation of HDMI in the Xbox 360).

But then again looking at Gabe, he probably eats his words all day and all night, with a side of bacon. He looks like 300 pounds of chewed bubble-gum.

[blakstarz]

Gabe and the rest of the guys at Valve are just plain intimidated by the PS3...that's all. They don't wanna get with the times and are content and complacent with their PC/360 ways of thinking....let them be and let REAL developers master the PS3.

[solar]

yeah you too Blizzard and Crytek! you arent REAL developers til you develop ps3 games!

/roll eyes

[Charlie_Shene]

lmao nice 1

[celldomceen1]

I dont care if he never makes another ps3 game. The problem is the arrogant and smug way in which he conducts himself. Its crazy all those that defend him are saying he has the right to his opinion, well so do the ps3 owners. And on a wide scale they have spoken. GABE is a huge douche bag.

If he feels that its in his best interest to not make games for the ps3 then do that and keep your mouth closed about a platform that a) you have no experience with and b) wont attempt to gain experience. I respect valve as a company, but i feel he has shown no professionalism. And yes i know how old the comment is, but til this day he has not retracted his statement. This leads me to believe he thinks the same way. and for these reasons i still feel the same way about him as a person........he is an assh*le

[Bathyj]

Be chewalla dum Jedi. Heywanna wanga Solo, bufuda !

[Oner]

Damn Bathy you got me again! Bubbles.

[ElementX]

If you go to examiner.com, where the full article directs you to, it's just some stupid site that has nothing to do with gaming. Report this garbage. F#*k the person who submitted this trash and F#$K the people who approved it. SPAM

It's basically a blog site, with users around the country writing "stories". Minnesota Game Examiner is just some phony wannna-be who posts his opinion.

I'm reporting the person submitting this and the people approving it.

[Ausbo]

i hate xbox so much. Halo sucks, gears sucks, fable sucks, mass effect sucks, ng sucks, l4d sucks, valve sucks, aaron greenberg is a fanboy(this is what n4g comment sections look like)

[caffman]

but you forgot that a few people seem to think L4D is left for dead.Proving that they really aren't gamers

[bighit006]

Bahahaha look at you all getting you knickers in a twist over something someone said.

"oh my god...like, how dare he tease the PS3! Oh my god hes such a fanboy. I think I might go cry on the forums so someone will listen to me WAAAAAAAAAAAA."

Your. All. F*cking. Pathetic.

I hope Gabe continues to make you little weiners cry.

[kewlkat007]

Haha N4g....

[Figboy]

being called to task for things they said about the PLAYSTATION 2, then i think Gabe deserves the anger he's receiving from a group of gamers who happen to ENJOY their Playstation 3's, and simply wanted a great developer to give them a fair shake, and instead, were told "f*ck you, buy the other console. oh yeah, and you're all idiots for buying a PS3 in the FIRST PLACE."

if people are STILL treating the Playstation 3 like its 2006/2007 again, then Gabe can most certainly still be treated like his comments were made yesterday.

people paid $60 for the Orange Box, because they heard that the game was an excellent deal, and package some of the best games the PC had to offer in a great deal.

what they got was a buggy, glitchy mess, and in this day and age of consoles with hard drives and the abiltiy to be patched, PS3 owners were given the finger, by EA AND by Valve. Valve could have stood behind their product (even though it WAS developed for the PS3 by another EA team, Valve was the originator of the product, and could have pushed for equal support), and gotten a patch to Valve fans who so happened to choose a PS3 over the 360.

the fact is, Gabe Newell is a prominent game industry figure, and he made some ill-thought out, frankly foolish comments about the Playstation 3 having NEVER EVEN TOUCHED the architecture of the console.

his comments, being a respected developer, were more damaging to the Playstation 3 during those early months than ANY fanboy on sites like kotaku and joystiq were.

i'm not saying the PS3 was beyond criticism, but to say it needed a "do over?" that Sony should "stop selling it on store shelves, and stop trying to convince people to develop for it?" come ON now.

considering that i've got games like MGS4, LBP, Resistance 2, Motorstorm, Valkyria Chronicles, Warhawk, Killzone 2, Uncharted, the upcoming Uncharted 2, Heavy Rain, GoW3, White Knight Chronicles and Gran Turismo, i have to say this to Gabe Newell:

F*CK YOU.

the PS3 may not have delivered on all of it's promises on day one, but it certainly got there in 2 years time, and it was worth it to play some of the most technically advanced games i've ever played. or is Unreal Engine 3 and the Source engine still the top technology in gaming these days?

to think, that if Sony had simply packed it in and called it a day, i wouldn't have been able to play the games i mentioned above and MORE, it infuriates me that Gabe could have been so, well, RETARDED.

there's a reason why he's a game developer, and why he doesn't manufacture console hardware: his short-sighted, ignorant view of the market, and the future trends of market are not conducive to a long business life.

Sony has been making consumer electronics for 60+ years. the Playstation and Playstation 2 are two of the most successful gaming platforms in gaming HISTORY. the PSP has managed to crack Nintendo's MONOPOLY of the handheld market, and carved a nice place for it where it can co-exist in PEACE with the excellent DS handheld.

the Playstation 3 is, inarguably, the most advanced console on the market, and it's potential has YET to be matched by it's competitors machines. that's simply a truth.

during 2006 and 2007, people were constantly, "the proof is in the pudding! if the PS3 is so powerful, then why isn't it SHOWING it?"

well, Ratchet and Clank Future, Uncharted, MGS4, LBP, Resistance 2 (60 player online is no small feat), Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, etc, are that proof, and yet people STILL don't think it's good enough.

at the end of the day, i shouldn't get so riled up, because i enjoy the consoles i own for what they are, and the gaming experiences i can get on them, but it absolutely grinds my gears when i see double standards and hypocrisy.

if David Jaffe gets called to task for being an arrogant jackass, i don't see why Gabe Newell is suddenly immune, just because he works for a respected company.

last i checked, Valve didn't consist of just Gabe Newell, but an entire TEAM of talented people who shaped the FPS genre with games like Half Life, Team Fortress, Counter Strike, etc.

nobody/company, is perfect, and people need to understand and accept that. Sony's not perfect, but they have certainly improved with consumer relations significantly with the PS3, and yet nobody wants to give them credit for acknowledging their faults, and what they're lacking, and striving to improve.

hell, in that interview with Reeves, he compliments Nintendo AND Microsoft, and nobody mentions it. but Aaron Greenburg slags on the competition every chance he gets, and people just nod in agreement.

Gabe was being a d*ck about the PS3. he's been proven wrong, and now he's disappeared and hasn't even manned up and ADMITTED that he was wrong.

[N4Garbage]

That wall won't be read.

[bighit006]

Go home Fanboy.

[nix]

to the others, at least read and make a comment and that too a justifiable one. if you can't make an intelligent conversation then got to Open Zone.

people really needs to read more... "uu suxzzz", "GTFO"... are the only sentences most fanboys can complete. pity.

[Figboy]

the best part about a debate is when the other side counters your argument with well thought out, rational rebuttal like you guys have done -oh,wait...

@nix - thanks for taking the time to read my post and respond. i don't mind a disagreeing opinion, but i'd certainly like to see the point of the other side. if anything, it helps ME get a more rounded view of the subject. i'm not so arrogant to think that my view is the gospel truth on an issue, and if i'm missing something, i like when i'm informed of that.

@ others: i'm a fanboy, am i? so why does this fanboy have a PS3 AND an Xbox 360? for decorative purposes?

i'm a gamer, and if Sony and MS are f*cking up with their consoles, i will say so. but this isn't about MS vs Sony, this is about a developer basically slandering the PS3 before it even found it's footing, and not being man enough to admit that he was WRONG about it.

the only truths in his statement are that the machine is hard to develop for, but that hasn't stopped companies like EA, Activision, Ubisoft, Konami, and Sony's first and second party studios, etc from producing great games for it.

Gabe came off like an @sshole, and you know what, he WAS being an @sshole, using his position to take potshots at the competition.

even John Carmack acknowledged the merits of the PS3, despite being a heavy Xbox/PC developer. he criticized the console, without being a complete DOUCHEBAG about it, unlike Gabe. it's called TACT.

and John Carmack and ID paved the way for games like Half Life, Team Fortress, etc, by creating games like DOOM and Wolfenstein, which fathered the FPS genre many moons ago.

[hydro-lx]

are you talking about my article?

[Obama]

Q: How many whoopers does it take to shut up Gabe Newell?

[caffman]

less than you

[BMS84]

Bah bah, has he played in the movie Se7en , the fat guy that died?? he was eating glass and stuff?

[N4Garbage]

What Gabe Newell said about the Ps3 is nothing compared to the FUD and BS that come from out of both the Pro-Sony and Pro-MSFT camps.

Gabe Newell runs one of the biggest companies in one of the hardest markets..that market is the PC market...with piracy being at an all time high being able to maintain a profitable company and create awesome games which Valve most definitely has done is no easy task.

So what? He dislikes the Ps3 and spoke his mind...he has the credentials and skill to talk down on the Ps3 or any hardware out there that he doesn't agree with...it's his job and OPINION...which last time I checked an opinion can't be RIGHT or WRONG.

I know a 5star chef who calls McDonalds and other fast food restaurants pieces of crap and a disgrace to food while I love McDonalds I won't create articles on how he's wrong and stoop to the level of a pea brain caveman thinking of countless ways to talk about someones weight.

For all we know he might have a thyroid problem...

[Ethreon]

It's that fat guy!

[nix]

enjoy the wrath!

[free2game365]

It's not Newell's fault that Sony went with a retarded set up, little memory, and mediocre GPU. It's Sony's fault for not at least matching their competition and not making the console easier and cheaper to develop for. That's what it is in the end. A person can have his own opinions, and Newell's is more respectable than any of the idiots writing articles about him. Until you've headed the release of 3 Microsoft operating systems, 6 games, and the most popular online game distribution service, you need to sit the f*ck down and realize you're just some hack writer who got butthurt because someone was truthful.

[Quickstrike]

what that fat guy wants to do anymore. If he doesn't want to make games for the PS3 then he loses customers. He's only hurting his company by not selling games on the PS3.

[divideby0]

He opened his fat mouth and stuck his foot in it..HIS own doing.
He should aspire to be more like Ted Price when this windbag grows up and he would not be the butt of the net comments.
Seriously...if you cant say something nice, drink a glass of STFU...especially someone like him in his position and in the public eye..what a jerk he came across

[L-a-i-n]

Lets stop talking about Gabe we don't need to give him the satisfaction of feeling important enough to talk about. If we stop he might just go away never to be heard from again. I personally don't want his games on the PS3 because they would look really bad compared to the 360. Valve just does not have any skills outside what they have used for years. Its like the company as a whole does not want to evolve into something greater. They could be so much more than they are now. Like all company's out there I think it is time for restructuring.

[Teek_15]

We dont hear from ps3 developers dissing xbox, so why is he so unprofessional? of course ps3 fans are gonna rub it in his face when the ps3 does well...

[Jacobite]

I think it a shame that Gabe can,t be assed with the PS3, then again its up to him. I enjoy TF online, played all the HL games even some mods all on the PC, PS3 does not need Gabe or Valve for it survival, it has plenty great games to keep fans busy, and yes the PS3 Orange Box was a let down with no support, least EA tried.

[cesc5000]

Maybe he should stop waisting time playinghalf life blue hsift and gooo o the gyyyymm, then maybe he'll lose some weight and could accutally stand to look at the PS3 coz it looks soooo good.

[blakstarz]

@solar...

So you agree...it does take REAL developers to create form the PS3.....you go have fun with your RROD machine.

[Magic_The_Celt]

Stupid fat american piece of lard

sorry, i love half-life, left 4 dead is great fun but this guy is a tool.

[caffman]

and you added my missus on XBL!

[Jaces]

Why does he complain so much?

Maybe he likes the attention, hmm.

[Blink_44]

Layoff the cheeseburgers!

[stuntman_mike]

gabe newell is a big fat pig, whos gonna get electronically punched in his face with a boulder made of gold.

there!!!

that ends it lol.

[Kyur4ThePain]

I can't wait for the day he has to jump on the PS3 wagon only to have his games ignored.

It was so silly of him to put down what could be potential customers.

PS - BTW, Gabe...I don't think yours is even that big. (Referring to the article picture for those that are suffering from Friday-slowness :) )

[devilhunterx]

omg! a real life pacman!!

[ballsofsteel]

he deserves what the gets. he choose to say those word and now he will have to live them down. if he said it in a more respectful sort of why like devs have in the past then i don't think me like other people would care that much but they way he said it he knew what could happen. still it seems valve hasn't got it through their heads that PS3 is a good consoles and games do sell on it.

[The Chief]

Honestly, most of you should be in the Open Zone.

[Kyur4ThePain]

What are people doing that they should go to the open zone?
You sound a little sensitive.

[Jacobite]

Take it that open zone a bad place then ?