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Left 4 Dead Sells 1.8 Million at Retail

Valve's cooperative zombie-shooter Left 4 Dead sold 1.8 million copies at retailers worldwide in 2008, distributor Electronic Arts revealed in a conference call today.

The figure accounts for retail sales of the PC and Xbox 360 versions, but does not include those copies sold via Valve's digital distribution platform Steam.

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uie4rhig5559d ago

it's VERY bad for a new IP.. it has to sell 10million to say 'not bad for a new IP' and if it sells less then 10 millions is BIG MASSIVE FLOP game :)

/sarcasm

caladbolg7775559d ago

Yea. If LBP is a flop at over 2mil worldwide, then Left4Dead is DEFINITELY a flop.

MasFlowKiller5559d ago (Edited 5559d ago )

so only ps3 tittle with a lower install base have to sell more?

caladbolg7775559d ago (Edited 5559d ago )

*The figure accounts for retail sales of the PC and Xbox 360 versions*

Not only did L4D sell worse than LittleBigPlanet, but the 1.8mil number is INFLATED by PC sales (not including Steam). I wonder what percentage of the 1.8 million are PC retail sales. 25-30%ish? That'd put the number somewhere closer to 1.3million in XBOX360 sales.

FLOP!

IaMs125559d ago

Now you must take in consideration that does not include steam, and i wouldnt doubt if that doubled

Marquis_de_Sade5559d ago (Edited 5559d ago )

Comparing LBP and L4D sales is idiotic. LBP is bundled with PS3s and is currently priced around £20 in several UK stores, L4D is still at £40, annoyingly -_-.

caladbolg7775559d ago (Edited 5559d ago )

Agreed. Comparing the sales of two drastically different games, for differing platforms, and under completely different circumstances is petty. However, debating what quantifies a "flop" is another matter.

LittleBigPlanet with slightly better sales than L4D (well, we really don't know to what degree LBP is kicking L4D's ass since we don't have the 360 sales numbers: only PC/360 combo sales) is considered by many publications to be a "flop", whereas L4D is considered a success.

That shouldn't sit right with anyone, and I find it appalling that you "idiots" don't see that.

Back to playing Left4Dead I go!

Half-Mafia5559d ago

Marquis_de_Sade

i got my copy of L4D PC for £20, first day.

Marquis_de_Sade5559d ago

My bad, I meant the 360 version.

Marquis_de_Sade5559d ago

LBP is continuing to sell well though, it's an excellent game with broad appeal. To call LBP a sales flop is plain silly.

BattleAxe5559d ago

If they were to port it over to the PS3 I'm sure that within 4 months they would sell another 500,000 copies.

hippo245559d ago (Edited 5559d ago )

If you were at all familiar with the tactics of valve the XBOX( which would account for the majority of retail sales) Was not there target audience.

Pc is and always had and the fact that the majority of the sales for PC are going through Steam (not included) Its not to shabby.

No L4D would not sell well on the PS3 valve already took the risk of making an Xbox version and its teetering on the very edge of success or failure. L4D is an online game and the xbox has a considerable larger "online" install base for those games, but for the PC the online community is almost universally Online
The Ps3 has considerably less then the Pc and the Xbox so Im not imagining that the game would sell well, because Co-Op is its major sell point.

However Its most likely coming to the PS3 anyway so well see it when it gets there.

BattleAxe5558d ago

I don't totally agree or dissagree with you, but one point I will dissagree with you on is PS3 install base for online play. Sony anounced last month that there were 17 million PSN accounts. On top of that, if you play CoD: WaW, it shows how many people are playing the game online at that moment that you are playing. I've seen CoD: WaW have just over 97,000 people online playing at once durring peak hours. L4D would do just fine.

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swiftshot935559d ago

a lot of games coming out+my 360 is shared=not a lot of time for 360 games for me.

caladbolg7775559d ago

Buy it for PC. You won't regret the purchase.
I can't say the same for the 360 version.

hippo245559d ago

Ive played both and until some mods come out for the PC they are basically the same.

It will change soon though.

GWAVE5559d ago

Awesome. It just goes to show that a new IP with fresh ideas can be successful.

Graphics Whore5559d ago

That's kinda sad, only 1.8M copies? Xbox Loyalists need to get this game pronto.

swiftshot935559d ago

granted the 360 fanbase is a large one, this game still did very good. Valve FTW (and yes im pissed too that they hate the ps3, but their games are too awesome)

Sez 5559d ago

guess the same should be said about LBP and R2 right. LOL

lokiroo4205559d ago

what a bunch of two faced box boys!

Graphics Whore5559d ago

LBP is an amazing game and so far it only has 2 million sales which sucks, people need to buy that game. Resistance 2 is more of a niche game so do with what you will, but seeing how Xbox Loyalists always brag about how they buy games and then we see only 1.8 million sold for an amazing game, kinda makes you think of the hypocrites you're dealing with.

I have this game on PC, amazing to say the least.

InMyOpinion5559d ago

"Resistance 2 is more of a niche game".

If Resistance 2 is a niche game then so is Halo and Gears of War.

Firstkn1ghT5559d ago (Edited 5559d ago )

LBP is at 1.4 million. This is from the mouths of Media Molecule. And I guess you got your numbers from VGchartz on that article a week ago. Noob.

"Resistance 2 is more of a niche game" LMAO!!!!!!!!

Anyway IMPRESSIVE numbers from a game that had to battle it out with Fable 2 and Gears 2. One thing is for sure that games on the 360 sell like hotcakes!

terrandragon5559d ago

"Loyalists"? Are you implying we are of the British sort? I guess we can call the PS3 guys Communists.

heyheyhey5559d ago

you people fail at sensing sarcasm... either that or Graphics Whore really is a major dumbass

TheIneffableBob5559d ago

Add the Steam sales and it'll probably be like 2.8 million.

Graphics Whore5559d ago (Edited 5559d ago )

Xbox Fanboys tout about low sales numbers frequently.

1.8 Million is not selling well compared to your other franchises, what's wrong? Why don't you just buy the game?

;).

Sez 5559d ago (Edited 5559d ago )

What you fail to realize is it sold 1.8 million without having to be bundled with a system. And it's still doing better than LBP and R2. so it's not 360owners that need to buy this game. More like ps3 owners need to buy games for their system. Before they start talking about people buying games on the 360. Just food for thought.

@BELOW

so 360 owners was claiming the ps3 was dead when L4D comes out.or better yet 360 owners claim L4D was a system seller? answer no. they didn't. and for a ne IP it did much better than LBP (which is all so a NEW IP) and a franchise games like R2. sound to me like your making excuses. and i would gladly eat crow. when LBP sells better than L4D. cause only vg chartz has it a 2 million sold. when sony said it's a 1.3 million. and to add insult to injury L4D is still selling better and still in the top 10 games sold last month. i can't say the same for those two games.

Graphics Whore5559d ago

Vega don't make up excuses, it sold 1.8 million period, by Xbox Fanboy standards that isn't good enough.

You preach it, so I expect you to eat it, crow that is.

360 man5559d ago (Edited 5559d ago )

you make yourself look so stupid at times

"Resistance 2 is more of a niche game"

lol wat an idiot

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Shaka2K65559d ago

But then again nobody cares about left 4 dead only desperate Xbugs with no games to play will like this Flop.

MGOelite5559d ago

cmon even i admit that L4D is good game, your the fanboy

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Most Offensive Video Games That Would Never Cut It Today

Times are changing, and these games would have never been made in today's climate.

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thorstein37d ago (Edited 37d ago )

Every single time someone uses this phrase whether it's music, movies, books, comics, video games, etc it's always the same claim.

The ubiquitous "they" won't allow it to be made. And every decade these claims are made the claimant completely ignores all the "offensive" material that is published when the claim is made.

In ten years, you can write a new article about how you can't make games like Helldivers 2, Resident Evil VIII, Mortal Kombat I, Dragon's Dogma 2, Alan Wake 2 etc etc etc any more.

MrBaskerville36d ago

Yeah, people wouldn't be constantly outraged if there weren't games that people found enraging. The whole SBI discourse shit wouldn't be a thing if all games were inoffensive. A game like Starfield can make a guy froth at his mouth, so there will always be room for a list like this.

0hMyGandhi36d ago

Normally, I'd be inclined to agree with you, but there are massive caveats.
TV shows like Venture Bros, Ren and Stimpy, and Aqua Team wouldn't/couldn't be made today. Hell, Ren and Stimpy was a *children's* show, same thing with Rocko's Modern Life.

It's not for some arbitrary reason, either. It's branding and IP alignment. Companies are far more risk-averse than they were when I was kid in the 90's. Of course, you have companies coming out of the woodwork to hell spur on similar content, but remember: Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon and some incredibly provocative material.

And for movies? it's pretty obvious. American Pie/Wedding Crashers/Eurotrip among many other "raunch coms" have fallen out of style, and are absolutely outside what the modern day film industry is willing to stand by.
Ace Ventura 1 and 2, Dumb and Dumber, Freddy Got Fingered, Rat Race, Harold and Kumar, and Van Wilder follow suit.

Remember: I am not explicitly talking about films put onto streamers. I am talking wide-releases in actual theaters. Same thing goes for games: Carmageddon, Duke Nukem, Manhunt, Six Days In Fallujah (with their original concept), Hatred, and so on and so forth. Of course, I'd be inclined to mention most tactical shooters like Rainbow Six and Joint Ops as well, due to cultural sensitivity regarding *who* you are shooting and why.

And not all of it is bad (obviously). Tastes change, and perspectives change to fit the demographic.
I should add that I'm a lefty, living in L.A. Working in film.

thorstein36d ago

The Boys, Invincible, Jojo Rabbit, Deadpool, Gen V, Last of Us, Banshee... There are plenty of media being made today that people will claim "can't be made today".

Profchaos36d ago

Yeah but if you consider manhunt which was basically a snuff film could you seriously make that game with high than PS2 era graphics.

thorstein35d ago

The Outlast Trials just came out.

But the storyline of Manhunt was that you were executed. But then lived. And if you didn't do as you were told, you'd die. And the people you killed were not innocents.

It was all filmed by a psychopath.

As we speak GTA VI is being finished up for a release. You get to play a Bonnie and Clyde type of protagonist who run up against the law.

Bodycam looks so real.

People are making those games. Articles like this will always exist no matter how incorrect they are, no matter how many times they blame "them" for whatever it is "they" do to prevent "those" games from being made.

Number1TailzFan36d ago

The UK is the biggest junk country pandering to that nonsense as well, with laws against free speech and expression to match. It got so bad even Rowan Atkinson made a video on free speech about it.

Now the UK raises the age rating on harmless films like Mary Poppins, it's just a load of pansy weak ass nonsense.

MrDead36d ago (Edited 36d ago )

The right wing Tories have been in power in the UK for the 14 years you know the ones that are "anti-woke", blame them for your perceptions.

Killer2020UK36d ago (Edited 36d ago )

Are these snowflakes in the room with us now?

This is more faux outrage designed to get hits. The consequences are unfortunately creating hysteria amongst those willing to buy into it and blame "them" or "the left" or "liberals" meanwhile the left are kicking off about genocide, actual real world abhorrent acts. Nobody is campaigning to censor this shit.

Huey_My_D_Long36d ago

Not too mention the fact that some of these game are controversial for you know, underage porn and encouraging rape.

So either the guy just came in to comment snowflakes without reading anything, or he is calling people snowflakes for having a problem with said titles. Crazy how much brain rot someone can have.

banger8837d ago

Dead Island: "The early PC version of the zombie game swapped the playable character Purna’s Gender Wars skill with a prototype name, which shouldn’t be mentioned directly. The skill name made fun of both Purna as a character and feminists."

"Feminist Whore" lmao

gold_drake36d ago

ill add one more to the list.
drakengard 1.

its ridiculous tho, especially since they'd still be able to find their place in alot of places in the world. except america of course ha. and maybe Australia.

ppl are so sensitive these days. ha. but it is what it is.

Barlos36d ago (Edited 36d ago )

They're not offensive.

And we need another Fat Princess. Fantastic little game!

Some people just have no sense of humour if this sort of thing offends them. They need to lighten up and stop taking themselves so seriously.

Deeeeznuuuts36d ago

Would love a new fat princess game 🤟

CantThinkOfAUsername36d ago

Games literally about sexual assault, mass genocide, bombing civilians, and school shooting. None of which is satirical.

isarai36d ago

Actually it's about fat princesses

Huey_My_D_Long36d ago (Edited 36d ago )

Its crazy that people are fixated on Fat princess when clearly the list is going over controversies, and not all of them are equal. Like way worse examples but pretend the entire list is like that.

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Left 4 Dead Writer Explains The Drawbacks Of Releasing Games In Early Access

He wants to launch all his projects initially through close beta.

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It's Time To Give Up On Left 4 Dead-Likes

TheGamer Writes "No game will ever surpass Left 4 Dead in the co-op horde shooter genre, so maybe it's time to move on."

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HyperMoused441d ago

True, id go for a complete remake of the original though

FPS_D3TH441d ago

It’s the simplistic design coupled with mod support that makes it unbeatable. I feel like it can only be succeeded by a remake or the same gameplay design with updated graphics, animations, weapons and new setting. Thing is, Valve doesn’t create or release games unless they feel it pushes the medium forward. They’re not interested in reselling the same content refreshed or not.

Number1TailzFan441d ago

It's also the simplistic design that makes it get boring after you've played it a bunch of times.

Concertoine441d ago

A significant evolution of the AI Director would be amazing. Increase the count for zombies on the map (which was low in the old games due to limitations of course). Make good maps (L4D1 style) and you have a very refined game

JL2930440d ago

That's all it needs, improved visuals and new maps.