Halo Studio lead producer Jason Pace has told VideoGamer.com that Microsoft sees the Halo franchise as its Star Wars, and hopes it will become just as prevalent in pop culture as the George Lucas conceived phenomenon.
Oh, you mean it's going to be milked to all hell with no reguards for quality? Because that's what I think of when I think of Star Wars. I probably would have picked a less milked franchise to compare to, to be honest, since Halo = money, but it's not yet been milked to hell.
LOL. I'm glad I'm not the only one who saw the headline and thought "Like Star Wars? You mean it'll be milked to death, MS?" MS touts their creativity and innovation so often. Sometimes I'd like to actually SEE it in the form of a new IP instead of yet another Halo game.
Well with me at least I have never seen a star wars movie and has never played HALO ...
Do you like metal gear ? Because its gonna take a long time until there will be as much halo's as there are metal gears. @edit for the disagree ers. Metal gear released so far: MSX,MSX2, NES, PC MS-DOS, Commodore 64, Mobile Phone, GameCube, PlayStation 2, Playstation 3, PSP, Gameboy color, iphone and Xbox. Halo's so far: Xbox, Xbox 360, PC. See how many platforms Metal gear had graced on compared to halo ? Its gonna take a while for halo to be that milked. Metal Gear: Metal Gear Snakes revenge Metal gear solid Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake Metal gear solid 3 Metal gear solid 4 Metal Gear Solid Integral Metal gear solid VR missions. Metal Gear: Ghost Babel Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater Metal Gear Ac!d Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence Metal Gear Ac!d 2 Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops Plus Metal Gear Ac!d Mobile Metal Gear Solid Mobile Metal Gear Online Metal Gear Solid Touch
ya it is like star wars , except it got crap story / crap graphics / being milked to infinity and beyoooooond
@ Foxgod Metal Gear: first released in the middle of 1987. 11 games (and that's counting spin-offs) across multiple platforms by multiple companies in 22 years. If you narrow it down to games only relating to the main storyline arc, you have 7 games across 22 years, or one game every 3 years on average. Halo Combat Evolved: first released at the end of 2001. 4 games in 7 years across two platforms by one company. EDIT: Lol. Using expansions and unreleased games, are we Foxgod? Watch me do it too! - Halo: Combat Evolved (Xbox) - Halo 2 (Xbox) - Halo 2 Multiplayer Map Pack (Xbox) - Halo: CE (PC) - Halo 2 (PC) - Halo 3 - Halo Wars - Halo 3: OSDT - Halo MMO OMG! Look at that! 9 games in only 7 years! See what happens when your trolling lacks facts? You get owned.
Check the full list above, including spinoffs and rehashes. Far more then 4 titles in 7 years. Average theres been one metal gear every year since 1987, theres been one halo every 2 years. People who claim halo is milked after only three titles, and 2 more coming can eat their own dung.
Why mention Metal Gear? This thread is about Halo and, if you'll notice, I defended Halo saying it hasn't been milked.
I dont think so, all the games i listed are released, and only 1 of them is an expansion, you just listed unreleased games and map packs, speaking of lame. And yes piratethom, but i did agree with that, just not with the other doodles up there. So it wasnt directed at you.
Dude, why did you repeat so many MGS titles? Trying to make your list longer or something? By the way, Subsistence and Substance weren't entirely new games either. Just special editions of MGS 2 and 3 (which you repeated 3 times each).
it will slow die.. hey this makes you think.. why did they choose 'Halo Wars' as the name :O!!!
Wow, the Halo-hate is thicker than usual in this thread, lmfao talk about hypocrisy....ain't these the same kids who love FF, GT, MGS and so many other "milked" exclusives?; oh but I see spinoffs and sequels don't count when its associated with the ps logo, its OK jealousy can 'cause weird reactions= JOY
hypocrites identified in this thread lol. keep raising ur ugly heads
LMFAO - i would feel sorry for these people if they weren't so brash. Gawd this brand is falling off a cliff @ the speed of light.
This I laughable, sure halo is MS star wars, Its a high quality game that is going to be used until the developers yell stop. Personally I don't mind If they make a few more halo games because while the most recent edition hasn't been stellar, its far from bad and is generally fun to play. I would also like to ask WHY THE HECK IS THERE A FAN WAR GOING ON, Did I miss the update that said being like star wars Is bad.
- Halo: Combat Evolved - Halo 2 - Halo 2 Multiplayer Map Pack - Is not a game. You can download them off of XBL. - Halo: CE (PC) - Not a spin-off. Just a port. - Halo 2 (PC) - Not a spin-off. Just a port. - Halo 3 - Halo Wars - Halo 3: OSDT - Halo MMO - Cancelled You're left with: - Halo: Combat Evolved (Xbox) - Halo 2 (Xbox) - Halo 3 - Halo Wars - Halo 3: OSDT There's been 5 different Halo games total. And since every one of you is a hypocrite and considers Halo 3: ODST not a real game, that makes it 4: - Halo: Combat Evolved (Xbox) - Halo 2 (Xbox) - Halo 3 - Halo Wars Even though Foxgod's comment was completely irrelevant to the main topic, he is right. The Metal Gear franchise is a massively milked one. And yes, a lot of the Metal Gear games were released within certain time periods. Usually 4-5 at a time. That = Milking. Try harder.
I just bought Halo 3 this week, and it was alright. I really dont like how unbalanced the guns are though. I put almost a full clip with my smg into my friend and he didnt die. I also shot him 9 times with a battle rifle and he didnt die. I caught it all on tape and thats when I realized I wasn't crazy. Im taking it back and try to get some in store credit or something.
no offense, but you just suck at the game. SMG is not a very powerfull weapon, that's why you can duel wield it. The battle rifle on the other hand is pretty powerful. 4 shots to the head with a battle rifle will kill a guy. If you shot at him 9 times then I would have to say that maybe your just a terrible shot and need more practice.
Tbh, Halo 3 is about 70% luck, 20% skill and 10% timing. =/
Not as good as Halo:CE, is it?
LOL - "I really dont like how unbalanced the guns are though." - are you kidding? The weapons in the Halo universe have always been considered the most and best balanced weapons in the FPS genre - except for the needler - in Halo 1 and 2 they were pretty usless unless duel weilded in Halo 2 - but Halo 3 up'ed its power to contend and is now a great weapon. You sir know not what you speak of.
Da Shredder, stop lying. 9 BR shots? Get real, 3 bursts to knock down shields and 1 to the head = dead. If you can't kill someone with a clip of an SMG, I'm going to assume you mean the Assault Rifle, either learn how to aim, or use it at its' intended range (mid to close).
That mean the next 3 games will be rubbish? First 3 'great', next 3 rubbish, thats the Star Wars way :(
Ha ha - everyone says that the prequels were 'rubbish'! I disagree though - obviously IV,V,VI are the greatest films of all time. I still get an adrenaline rush watching the Tantive being chased by the Star Destroyer at the start of IV and ive watched it over 200 times...... However the prequels were very decent too,sure Binks was annoying but the Darth Maul fight, the seduction of Anakin in 2/3 and the fight with 100+ Jedi on Geonosis were magical. Halo might be MS's StarWars but will it bring such a huge cultural change like StarWars - im not so sure......though the Halo games are all bonafide brilliant.
Halo Studio lead producer Jason Pace has told VideoGamer.com that Microsoft sees the Halo franchise as its Star Wars, and hopes it will become just as prevalent in pop culture as the George Lucas conceived phenomenon. Translation: We're going to keep milking the F*CK out of Halo.
O yeah, and thats a bad thing Its bad that they are making another metal gear, its bad that they are making another final fantasy, and another mario, and another killzone, and another god of war. Wouldnt the world be better without all those sequels ?
You're forgetting that this will be MS handing the franchise to other devs instead of Bungie, because I think Bungie is done with Halo after ODST. The slow decline of Crash Bandicoot's quality and design once ND left the franchise comes to mind.
@ Foxgod Mention one game outside of Halo that has the marketing (milking) strategy that HALO has to be considered by MS their Star Wars?? Find me some Killzone 2 sneakers or a limited edition beverage (MD) with GOW in the cover... We're talkin about real milking here mate, not games or sequels.
What is bad about releasing merchandise ? If you dont want it, dont buy it, but keep your trash talking to yourself.
What's the problem with it?? none I don't have a problem with them milking the franchise, I'm just saying that they are. They are just milking the crap out of Halo. Now quit being a drama queen and move on. If it offends you that HALO is probably the most hyped and milked franchise in gaming history then look for another hobby mate.
Love it or hate it, there's no denying that MS milked the hell out of Halo. I think I saw a Halo themed breast pump at K-mart just prior to Halo 3's release. I don't think any video game has been as heavily marketed as Halo 3 was, and in that respect it very much reminds me of the Star Wars franchise.
The Halo franchise is without a doubt a massive success story for micro/Bungie, so much so it has become an ICON within the industry commonly referenced whenever newly released shooters are discussed, its commonly found at gaming tournaments and generates a fair amount of business outside of normal gaming channels. Unfortunately with success comes hate from the slaves of the "establishment", who are always lurking the web following everything about the franchise in their futile efforts to tell the world how bad it is, fortunately millions have played it for themselves and millions more will play future Halo franchise games. Notice I'm not refering to ps3fans or any gamers who simply do not see whats so special about Halo, I respect that just like I never saw anything great about FF, nah thats fine but I never followed FF news just to say I thought it was 'meh over and over again. Awww but its a sad life they live, those few, those pathetic haters screaming from the dark alleys, the cold streets, the lonely abandon rooms they inhabit, peering out waiting desperately for the "Halo killer" they've been promised. I say have mercy on them, its not their fault that life has been so unkind to them and SDF took advantage of their weakness, they loaned them a quarter at the local Arcade many moons past, its a debt they can never fully repay and long ago they sold their gaming souls to the mighty establishment; SDF abused their trust, warped their senses and now they are forever hardwired to hate what their master calls Public Enemy #1: Halo. JOY
JOY man, i hope your not as serious about this as you sound, its kids (or teens that dont behave according to age) like you that make this "console war" as bad as it is. Your speaking about the people that dislike Halo as if they were some type of disease or something. "foam at the mouth" "Awww but its a sad life they live, those few, those pathetic haters screaming from the dark alleys, the cold streets, the lonely abandon rooms they inhabit, peering out waiting desperately for the "Halo killer" they've been promised. I say have mercy on them, its not their fault that life has been so unkind to them and SDF took advantage of their weakness" really, seems more like the description of a crack addict, or a person with rabies, i realize your trying to be clever, but if your gonna criticize everyone that spends a huge effort trying to convince people that halo is a bad game, then maybe you shouldnt spend an equal amount of effort trying to prove them wrong, at the end of the day nothing changes, haters are haters, fanboys are fanboys.
"really, seems more like the description of a crack addict, or a person with rabies," -nah, really? Well in that case I apopoligize for the confusion, I would never call anybody such terrible things....I don't know any of them personally so I have know idea whether or not they are on drugs or their medical condition but based on their comments alone I do indeed think my description of their behavior is accurate in reference to the Halo-haters on this site; or maybe I'm just full shiii, I have a vivid imagination and I thought it was funny as hell so I don't give a damm if it bothers them. JOY
I think in a lot of ways they are right.. halo is almost like the star wars of video gaming.. it's pretty much influenced a whole subculture (albeit a negative annoying one.)
...introducing Teabagging to the masses.
I doubt halo will ever achieve the fanbase of star Wars, or even get remotely close. I thought the same as others when I saw the title, that they're going to milk it for all it's worth as quality diminishes.
3 titles made, and it sells like crazy, Halo can go far, but time will learn.
Sure, episodes I-III chronologically speaking... but not IV-VI..
Am I the only one who thought episode 3 was awesome?
It COULD have been, but Hayden Christen..dldfk had to be replaced and the scene of Vader getting chopped to bits and burned alive was too blatantly over the top.. it should have been subtle and dramatic (although a bit cliche) Vader should have been trapped out on a small island in the middle of the lava with no escape and Obi Wan gets away, they exchange words, Vader's last vain effort is to throw his lightsaber at Obi Wan from a distance but it is deflected "I hate you" and then the lava erupts and Vader simply vanishes in the smoke and fire and is recovered later... end scene.
The fact that they were able to create such a franchise is an incredible achievement and they deserve to milk it as much as they want Nintendo did it with mario, sure they have their crap spin-offs like Mario and Sonic but they still keep the main franchise at a high quality just look at Super Mario Galaxy its the highest rated exclusive this gen The same will likely happen with Halo the main series will remain great but the spin-off will be crap (except Halo Wars) but sell like crazy
3 wasn't great. :| 1&2 yeah, but 3...meh.
Bungie created Halo, not MS, MS were merely the publisher. MS had no real input into the overall design of the Halo series, that was Bungie. Now that (I think) that Halo: ODST will be the swansong of Bungie with the Halo universe (since going independent from MS again), I think the franchise will be out of their hands and the spirit will be slowly lost.
Halo3: ODST may be Bungie's last Halo game, but if im not mistaken hasnt MS formed a new studio specifically for Halo games which has the lead Halo designer in it along with a bunch of other big name devs so i doubt it will lose its spirit Also even though Bungie created the game, it was MS who made it a global phenomenon
WRONG. Bungie got the work, you don't see me worshipping SCE for publishing Uncharted, do you? I usually praise Naughty Dog as they developed everything involving the game SCE just published it. MS did nothing to the importance of Halo, not at all, they just published it, Halo as a project existed before MS even set their hands upon it. Ms didn't walk into Bungie's office and say; "Hmm, that needs a little more purple there..." "Change that art direction there." "Hmm, it would be better if there were more aliens in that stage" "Hey! What would happen if that Green guy was named...'Master Chief'?" "How about, giant Halo constructs..." Good to hear theres some hope Bungie-less, if just a little.
So you think that Halo would be as big as it is today if MS hadnt put all the effort in marketing it as a must have game? I know Halo and Bungie are great but i dont think they're great enough to sell 1.8ml copies in 8hrs all by themselves
Soooo, what you're saying is that you and most people wouldn't of bought Halo games if it wasn't for MS telling you to? Wow, so much for the power and popularity of a developer over an original IP.
Pretty sure that Halo would have never taken off if Microsoft never helped it.
I want Bungie to try out their creative talents with a different IP. Provided Halo ODST is the last Halo game Bungie make, it will also be the last Halo game I buy, Bungie and Halo are the perfect match, if MS really do milk the Halo franchise, it would be a sad plight for such an excellent series of games.
didnt the death star also explode into a big red ring too?
Red Ring of Death
he means Red Ring of Death. He wasn't being too particularly subtle about it. Good for you for picking up on it though. I need some more coffee....
microsoft are right, halo reminds me a lot of star wars episode 1 and 2.
Reminds me more of Power Rangers,but eh,that may be just me
Power Ranger with laser guns...
"Last time I heard that one I laughed so hard I fell off my dinosaur."
it will not be long before this article is floated with Sony leg humpers who fear the success of Halo. I already see comments on the open Zone about, "Microsoft milking..." halo.. Well think about it, if you have a cow wouldn't you? Milk(Halo) is on high demand. People want it. why shouldn't they make it. Halo 3 came out a long time ago and it's still being supported, it's still on the 1st or 2nd position as the most played FPS game on consoles and probably including the PC. Why should halo fans complain that years old game is still being patched, fixed, improved and extended? Why should people complain that their games are not abandoned by the developers and new maps and contents are released? You sony leg humpers keep talking about "future proof" the PS2 and the PS3 is... why don't you name some PS2 games that you can still play on the PS2 online? I can name a ton from the original xbox. Sony supports the hardware but abandons the games... which is what all gamers should care about. Resistance and other PS3 game came around the time Halo 3 came out... where are all the updates, enhancements, fix, patches to keep the game fresh? The PS3 is a disconnected experience where games are abandon months after their released and quickly replaced by other game or another iteration which will soon be forgotten. This I laugh when I hear these SOny leg humpers complaining about the xbox 360 getting DLC... And for those idiots saying there is not xbox 360 games... why don't you take a look only at the games coming out during this month alone. You don't raise a cow milk it once and leave it to die. Besides, let do the math here and see who's milking how? How many halo games we had during the past 3 years? 1 FPS(Halo 3) and soon to be release 1 RTS(Halo Wars). How many resistance games in 2 years the PS3 is being out? 2 FPS(Resistance 1, 2). Soon Sony will make another Encharted. So, how is Microsoft milking when Sony is producing more of the same when Microsoft at least is trying other genres and different perspectives and gameplay?
Your mom needs to put soap in that mouth. Does she know you talk like this. Does she know that you think you you can have sex with a video game machine.
Wow. You care far to much if you write that much about why people are wrong.
as if im gonna read all that , bottom line is , u got KILLZOOOWNNNEEEDDD
bladstar imo your right in some ways and wrong in the other. right ways being that microsoft does not milk the cow as much as other think they do. and wrong being that there will be 2 killzones in about 7 years. but i do get were your coming from
God, I hope Sony make another enchanted, wait damn, wot was the first one??
Lmfao, Encharted...*falls over laughing* Dude, did you even think before you ranted your ass off?
Bladestar seems to have skipped his meds and took his aggression out on the keyboard.
Umm i thought the Power Rangers died along time ago?
how pretty bladestar is down to 3 bubbles! lol at halo being the most played game on pc hahahahahahhahahahaha It never even appeared on Xfire List, even when it was 1st released. Ask all PC gamers, the experts in FPS, they all tell you Halo suck. Go to a LAN Party and say you want to play Halo. They will kick you out and laugh at you.
Halo is better than Star Wars. They just need the right director to do it justice.