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How broken is the current Game Review process?

Should you really be taking any notice of Game Reviews anymore?

Is the whole game review system not giving us what we want, a non biased review of the latest, greatest game of that time?

It probably is looking back at some previous reviews. Lets take a look back in time.

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rucky5976d ago

They just need to take out 360 fanboys in reviewing PS3 titles and voila it's unbroken!

GWAVE5976d ago

The problem is that there isn't anyone to hold reviewers accountable. Worse yet, a "controversial" review gets as many site hits as a legitimate review, and sometimes it generates even MORE hits.

But no one holds the media accountable. That's just how it is.

Aaron Greenterd5976d ago

Gaming "journalism" is in a very sad state. There is absolutely no consistency from game to game, review to review. There is no standard, and reviews are no longer about "reviewing a game for what it is", it has now become "review it for what it's not".

Ratchet and Clank: ToD - no multiplayer, too much variety
Uncharted - no multiplayer
MGS4 - cutscenes are long
Killzone 2 - no co-op
Warhawk - no single player campaign

yet

Gears - 10
Halo - 10
CoD 4 - 10
GTA 4 - 10

etc etc

The list goes on and on, and the point I am trying to make is reviewers these days will forgive 360 exclusive games because of bias (i would know), forgive multi-platform games because they are multiplat, but ps3 exclusives get crapped on.

Every generation there are those that want Sony to fail. Yet this is exactly why Sony will succeed, because eventually people start to see this type of behavior with outlets they've always trusted, and aren't willing to accept it anymore.

Sony must be doing something right if reviewers consistently feel the need to be so inconsistent.

cmrbe5976d ago

Add

Heavenly Sword - Too Short.

N4360G5976d ago

The current game review process is very broken.How can great exclusive games on the PS3 get such low scores? If they were Xbox 360 exclusives they would all get 10's like crazy.This has got to stop now!!

Sarcasm5976d ago

Yup and the ones who complain "Killzone 2 is only 8 hours" disregarding the 4 hour campaign of COD4 and 5-6 hours of Gears of War.

Doppy5976d ago

The gaming industry is broken as a whole not just reviews. The biased media and journalist, the overwhelming fanboys, and overall hate is ruining the industry. Its being broken down bit by bit, and what makes it so sad is that instead of being positive about everything we have, we find something to complain or argue about with one another while everyone else bandwagons right along with it.

Its gotten to the point where I rarely check the comments on articles, or read article for that matter, because a majority of them are negative, and used just to get hits.

Chubear5976d ago

There's a poll about this very matter on there. Check it out and post a comment or just participate in the poll.

http://www.hiphopgamershow....

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pswi605976d ago

"When will this madness end???"

right around the time you buy a ps3 and get Killzowned!!!!!!

trancefreak5976d ago

agent vx it really baffles me how you get away with being such a flaming ahole in the gamer zone calling out sony fans with ever post.
you really belong that way >> but for now u can suk my azz

Sarcasm5976d ago

Agent VX, go please your wife instead of complaining about PS3 fanboys when you're one of the worst 360 fanboys ever.

DeadIIIRed5976d ago

Shes finding attention elsewhere ;)

soxfan20055976d ago

I don't get it. Many people who claim that the gaming media is biased are the same ones who proclaim a game to be "greatest game ever", even though they have NEVER played the whole game, while the reviewers have played it.

I know this may sound crazy, but before you form an opinion, or criticize other's opinions, shouldn't you actually play the game first?

Hype seems to bring about a sense of entitlement among fanboys.

FrankenLife5976d ago

@soxfan:

It isn't about a good score bad score. It is about consistency. Keeping their standards, standard. If one game is going to get knocked for no co-op, then other games in the genre should get knocked just the same. Be honest in story critique. Giving Halo 3 high story marks is BS. Say what you will about the gameplay and the multiplayer, the story was mediocre at best. But it is ok for it to have a forgetable story. FPS aren't known for their stories. RPGs on the other hand, have to have a great story. One of the recent complaints that I am tired of is the color pallet. Urban warzones aren't known for having flashy colors. What do they want, magenta buildings? If a game is trying to look realistic, then they are going to stick a color pallet that is realistic for the setting. Bright color pallets are used as eye candy. They make the game more enjoyable to watch. If the developer used other techniques to make the game pretty, then what is the problem? Then the reviewers don't ding all games with the same color pallet the same way.

As somebody on here already said. The reviewers don't necessarily review PS3 games overly poorly by default. It is more like they have "beer goggles" for 360 games.

Apone5976d ago

Heavenly Sword - Too beautiful

BobDog5976d ago

yes but those stated ps3 exclusives have all been released, some of them received average scores, and the people who bought those games all thought they were fantastic

InMyOpinion5976d ago

Yeah, cause it's not that you are blind fanboys. It's the Internetz that is teh biased...

Rampant5976d ago

Weren't MGS4 and LBP the highest scoring exclusives of last year?

prowiew5975d ago

This is one of the most ridiculous read I had in a long time. That why there are a tons of sites. A review is just an opinion of one person. If you really are buying based on reviews, then read different reviews. IGN, 1up, etc doesnt give scores based on every team member opinion. Is just one person. A game could be a 10 to you and a 2 to me or viceversa. People just complain for the dumbest things. And if you think a website is biased to you, then read another. Simple as that.

Tiberium5975d ago

What site are you talking about dude? Examples please.
Just because everybody isn't slobbering over killzone 2 or the other ps3 exclusives doesn't mean they are sony biased. Tell me something- what is so hard about RESPECTING OTHER PEOPLE'S OPINION. America still is a democracy right? If you don't like what one site has to say, go to one that you like, it's that simple. In the real world people disagree with you, deal with it.

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BulletToothtony5976d ago

i don't understand how this even makes sense..

It's simply double standards, but sometimes these people with websites forget the only point that's important..

I'm gonna enjoy this game to the max on my hdtv no matter what they say and how much they hate the ps3..

they can keep their perfect gta4 which nobody plays anymore..

InMyOpinion5976d ago

GTA IV is a sandbox game which handles huge drawdistances and a ton of objects on screen at once. At the same time in incorporates an advanced physics engine for both characters(natural motion) and cars.

On the other hand Killzone 2 sports meticulous detail, advanced smoke effects, lighting and overall polish. No FPS games come near it and no sandbox games have come near GTA IV.

I think both games deserve a 10 in the graphics apartment.

N4g_null5976d ago

You know part of the problem is that you guys yes every one uses review scores and not the actually reviews to buy games.

Seriously these are all paid ads for each and every game. If they are not paid then their are phone calls made saying "come on man give us a break! We need one 10 from you.".

Seriously Fanboys give these reviews power. If USA today reviews a game I'm betting no one cries over it.

Another reason why reviews don't work is the simple fact that they don't take every one into consideration. Right now every one is saying casuals are killing gaming well elitism is actually what is killing gaming. Before the console wars was a bunch of kids now it's people over 21 who will hold grudges for a long time. The Idea is that their opinion is what matters. maybe this is a product of market expansion. Most game reviewers just don't know who is going to be reading their articles.

bomboclaat_gamer5976d ago

booohooooo

i wanna cry.

killzone 2 got 9.2 out of 10.

i dont wanna live anymore. ima go write articles about bias reviewers now

komp5976d ago

Killzone2 is just mentioned as it is one of the latest games to be coming out. It applies to all future games. It has nothing todo with the fanboy side of it. Reading past the headline usually helps empower the reader!

bomboclaat_gamer5976d ago (Edited 5976d ago )

i know u wrote this after the review got on the site. if KZ2 got a 10 i dont think the writer would write that article. ur a fanboy and u dont even know.

@below.... lol. u made me laff to bomboclaat. good one, bwoy

LTC5976d ago (Edited 5976d ago )

Bomboclaat gamer cussing ps3 boyz no? U is a pvssyclaat because KZ2 raas ya claat.

Blurrclaat tsk.

Aaron Greenterd5976d ago (Edited 5976d ago )

Killzone 2 has a metacritic of 94 with 100 from X-play and 96 from gamesTM still outstanding.

The author makes a valid point, but a troll like yourself is too busy "smoking the green" and trying to attack readers for seeing the truth which obviously you aren't happy about.

Why don't you go back to your Sony Attack Force site (which I pay for by the way) and cry hardar

bomboclaat_gamer5976d ago

who gives a hell how much killone got???
if its a good game get it and form ur own criticisms.

it clearly shows what fanboys u r

Aaron Greenterd5976d ago

"who gives a hell how much killone got??? "

if it got a 7/10 you would be here telling us how much of a flop it is, the ps3 sucks, etc etc. the only reason you are here is because of its high scores, and you want us "fanboys" to suddenly believe the gaming media is no longer biased.

"if its a good game get it and form ur own criticisms."

it comes out the 27th noob, i have it pre-ordered just like the rest of the internet.

"it clearly shows what fanboys u r"

and your comments tell not only that you are a fanboy, but in fact what kind of fanboy you are, mr. eX Believer Of Truth.

Crazywhitie5976d ago

Let the Fanboys Rage on, Killzone 2 won't Flop if it gets a 7/10, It's going to Flop because it won't Sale like a Xbox 360 Title.....Xbox 360 Player Tend to Support there system in game sales more then the PS3... Yes Sony as a Great System but they don't know what to do with it... as where Xbox 360 has Crappy Hardware but all the Software you need... Game Reviews don't mean that much anymore, when you got a guy out there like hiphopgamer spitting his PS3 crap, but acts like he's un bias.. give us a break.... The only reviewer you should listen to is yourself.. If you want a game bad enough Buy it, if your not sure about a Game Rent it...

LeonSKennedy4Life5976d ago

Could I get a reference to your formal education system?

I'm looking to settle down in a nice quiet place where my kids can grow up and "get teached English real good"!!!

You actually typed the word "boohoo". Who does that?

bomboclaat_gamer5976d ago

i dont see u making comments about guys who say the word noob. is noob a word?

no its not. which shows that u just want to attack me. i have no time for u tho

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Helghast Slayer5976d ago

I think sony should not allow the 360 loyalists to review their exclusives. Obviously they have nothing better to say than biased nonsense. The double standards are starting to show and after Killzone2 i don't expect another fps to ever get a perfect score.

ElementX5976d ago (Edited 5976d ago )

LOL, people rate sites as "360 fanboys" or "PS3 fanboys". What matters is the reviewer. Each site has multiple people reviewing games. If site X gives Halo 3 a 10/10, it doesn't mean the same reviewer will also review Killzone 2. Maybe the person reviewing KZ2 doesn't like it very much, so they give it a 8.5/10. It doesn't mean the site is biased, just that different people are doing the reviews.

BTW this is a blog and shouldn't be submitted. N4G should get a new name, such as B4G, Blogs for Gamers. There are more blogs posing as "articles" than anything on this pathetic site.

pswi605976d ago

call me old fashioned, but i think ElementX is a 360 fanboy.

one person writes an article about media inconsistency and these 360 fans cry even moar...you guys can't stand it when a ps3 game gets the high marks it deserves.

as someone stated in another thread, "your tears taste like 20 year old scotch"

ElementX5976d ago (Edited 5976d ago )

LOL. I stated in a previous post that I used to like 360 but like PS3 more. Get over it. You try to smear someone on N4G? How sad is that? I haven't played my 360 in a while.

Read this:
http://n4g.com/NewsCom-2633...
Post #35

B!tch.

pswi605976d ago

defensive are we?

here is a link for you

http://www.youareabot.com

Dmitry Orlov5975d ago

@pswi60: C'on man! Remember the time when R2 and Gears2 were getting their reviews? EVERY ps3 fanboy on this site thought it was he right to go to Gears2 section and to spam on multiple accounts how the game 'sucked'. Nothing like that happened with R2.

@all: KZ2 isn't getting 10/10 like Halo 3 because time passes by and demands rise up. When Halo 3 was released it was cool and awesome. If you look at it today (like it was released today) it would be 8-9/10.

But still, ps3 fanboys have lived the hype made around KZ2 (remember the article "KZ2 has better graphics than Crysis"?) and when the game doesn't score 10/10 everywhere, these pathetic people try to commit a suicide. Oh, wait.. There is still God of War 3 to hype..

My point is: you made the hype and expected an IDEAL game. nothing is ideal - there are always flaws somewhere. now, when you realise it by looking into the reviews, you cry.

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XBLA Classic 'A World of Keflings' Is Coming to Steam, and There's a Demo

"Back in the innocent days of 2010, A World of Keflings was a fairly popular successor to A Kingdom for Keflings. I even wrote about it a few times in 2012! But the world of humans moved on, and NinjaBee's city-building/adventure game was last seen on the ill-fated Wii U in 2014. Fast-forward to the dark year of 2025, and not only is A World of Keflings coming to Steam, but there's already a playable demo! Perhaps the cheerful, no pressure gameplay that the Keflings bring is just what we need nowadays," says Co-Optimus.

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The Real Enemy of Gaming Isn’t DEI. It’s the CEO

From Horse Armor to Mass Layoffs: The Price of Greed in Gaming. Inside the decades-long war on game workers and the players who defend them.

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jambola5d ago

maybe a real enemy is people who use terms like "the real enemy"
there can be more than 1 bad thing, t's not like a kids show with 1 big bad

senorfartcushion3d ago

This is very much a “dummy who volunteers themselves to the middle” comment.

The real enemy is a common phrase, people use it all the time.

Calm down.

jambola3d ago

i'm very calm
you seem very upset however

Notellin3d ago

You don't seem calm at all. Don't take this so seriously, you seem desperate responding to others defending your opinion that lacks any value or critical thought.

jambola2d ago

stop projecting
i'm not desperately dong anything, i'm tapping at keys on my keyboard bud

PapaBop3d ago

It's not like kids show with one bad guy? I present to you.. Bobby Kotick

ABizzel12d ago (Edited 2d ago )

DEI was never the problem and it was an ignorant take to begin with.

DEI is why games like Kena Bridge of Spirits, South of Midnight, and Ghost of Tsushima exist.

DEI is why we have a huge resurgence in Japanese, Chineses, and Korean developers producing games like Stellar Blade, Black Myth, and why Nintendo & Sony exist.

DEI is why more and more games have HUGE accessibility options with both Sony and MS fully behind this.

DEI was never a bad thing, the entire purpose of DEI is representation of all people, genders, disabilities, etc…

The problem was people used DEI as a default derogatory term to describe what they believed was forced representation, which allowed colorist, racist, sexist, misogynist, homophobic, and xenophobic fools to run away with the negative DEI narrative.

jambola2d ago

you don't get to decide other people's motivations
sorry to break it to you

ABizzel11d 14h ago (Edited 1d 14h ago )

To each their own, however, nothing you said invalidates why some people take offense to DEI incorrectly.

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Sciurus_vulgaris5d ago

Executives seem to often have an obsession with perpetual revenue growth. There is always a finite amount of consumers for a product regardless of growth. Additionally, over investment is another serious issue in gaming.

Killer2020UK3d ago

The fact that they also rarely have any real expertise in game development compounds things. They'll look at what's been successful elsewhere, lack the knowledge to properly understand why they have been successful and then force a team to 'reproduce' their badly interpreted idea of that success.

We see it so often with sequels to games that were successful too. The team are left well alone, they have a break through hit and all of sudden the money men descend on the IP and completely railroad the dev team's ideas. Usually winds up being 'make the same game but MORE'

LoveSpuds3d ago

This is true throughout all of the corporate and public sector organisations to be honest. CEO's generally move amongst the corporate world without any need to have experience of a particular industry, they simply need to rely on their senior leadership credentials. A CEO of a retail giant will just as easily transition to a CEO role in the energy sector for example.

Not defending CEOs here to be clear, I think it's a huge part of the reason the western world is so fucked up. CEOs don't need to care about the sector they work in, in fact it's better if they don't care if they want to screw everyone to make profits.

GhostScholar3d ago

Companies don’t hire executives to break even. If the goal is breaking even then why start the company in the first place.

Soy3d ago

That's understood; it's getting record profits and expecting to always beat those record profits, and seeing anything less as a total failure. Then they lay people off and raise prices to reach those record profit levels again, just to sate shareholders. It's setting expectations way too high just to spike share prices, then inevitably falling short. It's feeling entitled to being more successful than everyone else. It's the CEOs doing all this to boost their own bonuses.

ABizzel12d ago

Growth benefits the company’s profits and therefore the company’s stock if publicly traded, which pleases the shareholders making them more and more rich, which is why Growth is always at the forefront of the vast majority of any publicly traded company.

More growth = More Money and the people at the top want all the money they can get. I can’t really blame them anyone would love to see their profits go from tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands, to multi-millions it’s almost like a gambling addiction.

But it also goes to show someone how morals can go out the window for a lot of these people, and how amazing some CEOs are when they catch this early and provide a balance solution that takes complete care of their employees across the board while keeping the business sustainable IE: Insomniac Games ALWAYS on the best places to work list. The rest of the industry could learn.

jambola5d ago

honestly, the "real" enemy of gaming, is ourselves
if nobody bought horse armor, shitty dlc would have died almost overnight
if we stood firm and nobody bought games from companies that were bad with layoffs, it would be solved
we're the idiots supporting awful business practices, we are the ones enouraging it

TiredGamer3d ago

I think the reality that we don't want to convince ourselves of is that without the rise of "horse armor" and DLC, game budgets would have essentially stagnated (smaller teams/smaller games), or game prices would have risen much more dramatically than they have. There was an incessant drive for bigger worlds, infinite detail, and hundreds of hours of "gameplay" over the last two decades, that while perhaps a natural evolution of things, needed a suitable funding stream to accomplish.

HyperMoused3d ago

What...CEOs make tens of millions and that doesnt include SLT etc etc...we now have multiple editions of games, in game currency, MT's, battle passes.....and what do we get..worse game than what was coming out 20 years ago....dont drink the cool aid, its this nickel and dime crap that is absolutely leading us to gaming destruction.

senorfartcushion3d ago

This is the worst possible answer to this conundrum. Blaming the masses is blaming the only people who are constantly “told” to buy.

Consumers are the only ones not to blame here. People make their own choices all the time. Disney movies are bombing and DEInis being blamed. Has that been enough to put Disney out of business? No and it never will.

Christopher3d ago

Disagree. Businesses are able to do what they do because people are bad consumers and don't think critically about purchases. Disney got away with doing shit stuff for years and it's just the last year where people got tired of it. It's not like it didn't work for 5 years or so for Disney to do the things they've done. They'll just move onto another way to get people to see movies and it will be just as bad but more profitable until people wake up and realize it.

TiredGamer3d ago

Consumerism drives business behavior. It's not so much "blaming" as it is observing behavior. The point I'm making is that the direction that games have gone are driven by the spending. Consumers are spending on DLC and they are driving the expectation of more glitz and padded out (lengthier) games. If they continue to pay, they will continue to drive that direction until a threshold is reached that forces a change in behavior.

senorfartcushion3d ago

Corporate advertising is the most powerful force on the planet.

This is N4G for god sake, every day there are arguments between people who are Team Xbox and Team PlayStation because they’ve been convinced that having an identity built on paying money to Sony and Microsoft matters more than having one as individual gamers who can play whatever they want.

And THEN we get to the corporate advertising part: to play whatever you want is to sink MORE into the advertising pits, making it so that you can more than one specific product.

jambola3d ago

ah you're right
they were told to buy it, it's clearly impossible to avoid that
if enough people stopped supporting, it would stop
disney not stopping would only be because enough people didn't stop

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victorMaje3d ago

Agreed. I’ve been saying for years, announce you won’t be buying the upcoming game because of the practices of the previous game, then you only have to stick to your guns once, see how quickly things change for the better.

We have to unite in what we shouldn’t purchase.

jambola3d ago

just imagine a world, fifa came out worse, nobody buys the next one until they see proof it's better and stick to it
or games being forced online for single player and nobody buys it
things would change so fast

HyperMoused3d ago

Just like scooby doo, you have shown us the real monsters are us

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Inverno3d ago

Greed and greedy people have and always will be the main issue for everything wrong in the world. Everything is a product to be exploited for monetary gain. Even when there are things that could help progress us along for the sake of making our lives easier that thing must be exploited for monetary gains. Anything that tells you otherwise is propaganda to make you complicit.

coolfool3d ago

I've never thought "DEI" (although the way most people use it doesn't match it's real definition) is the problem with games. Good games have continued to be good when they have a diverse cast, and likewise, bad games have continued to be bad. There isn't a credible example I've seen where a diverse cast has been the direct cause of a game being bad.

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It Has Been Over 2,500 Days Since The Elder Scrolls 6 Was Revealed

It's been officially over 2,500 days since The Elder Scrolls 6 was revealed, and fans are still waiting for more than a logo and a mountain range.

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jznrpg3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

It will come out in another 1000-2000 days or so. I’d rather they remake Morrowind. After they added quest arrows, sprint button, making stats lesser and the big nerfs to spells Elder Scrolls has been too simplified. They could change that with ES6 but I don’t have much faith in modern Bethesda. I would love to be wrong

clevernickname3d ago

Wait until he hears about Star Citizen...