It is rumored that Firmware update 3.0 will implement features that will rival Xbox Live. What features could those be?
Agreed, plus custom avatar. I'm tired of have the face of kratos as avatar.
Tired of feeling as if im playing AI computers with randomly generated names. -Also see what my friends are DOING in the game. Playing Skate 2, ok. Is he online? in a match? career? -party chat I cant list everything that Xbox Live does right now even though I use it the most compared to my PSN account. There's surely alot of things though which sometimes gets me when people say PSN is better than Xbox Live. I dunno, dont get it.
That would be cool if Sony implements that.
I think more ppl with mics = chaos. I don't, really, I DON'T want 10 years old kids yelling in an online match. "-Also see what my friends are DOING in the game. Playing Skate 2, ok. Is he online? in a match? career? " LBP can do that. But i mean, do ppl really care if someone is playing carrer or online match?. Party chat.. agreed.. that would be awesome.
invites and joining from everywhere and deep player status to know what your freind is doing at this moment and therefore decide to join him,send him an invite xbl has an amazing player status system for example:it tells you if your freind even at the title screen and even tells you that you freind is gathering members in online,it's a pretty amazing unified dydtem on psn it just tells you "cod:waw",even you can't call him,sending invites is awekward cause you have to do the in game feature and if your freind start playing you can't join the game in progress
Free beer and a lap dance. There question answered. You can stop all the nonsense blogging now.
As far as I'm concerned, it's already superior: - It's free - Being free, you can have as many registered online users per PS3 as you want - The games have dedicated servers. 360 games don't. You kids can argue. You can compare the number of users. You can claim that an online service is "teh sux!" simply because it doesn't have cross-game chat. But here's the REAL issue: what service offered 32-player and 40-player online lag-free matches when the competition was struggling to pull off 16-player deathmatch (pssst. I'm talking about Resistance and Warhawk)? What service supports 60-player lag-free multiplayer matches, or 8-player co-op matches for that matter (psssst. Resistance 2 is the game I'm referring to)? What service offers the most powerful content generation engine, allowing millions of people worldwide to share content with anyone and, oh, I forgot, also play 4-player co-op without lag (psssst. Little Big Planet is the game I'm referring to)? What service boasts what is being called "the best-looking console game of all time" with 32-player online matches with no lag and gorgeous HD textures that put the competition to shame (psssst. Killzone 2 is what I'm talking about)? I think the games speak for themselves, and to think people are paying $50 a year and NOT playing those games. Tsk tsk tsk.
I don't need my friends to know when I've popped in my copy of "Horton hires a Hoe". And I don't think we need more mics either. I think it's just about right the way it is now. One of the things that turned me off about XBL was the inane chatter in every single game. You want to chat every now and then but having to mute 4-5 people at the start of every single Halo 3 match was a pain. Here's hoping the party chat makes that more bearable for you guys. I think having to buy your own mic is a bit of an intelligence test. You have to have $25 bucks to start with, have the wherewithal to go down to the store and select a mic. That may require some research into different headsets. You then need to be able to figure out how to set it up. Right there that seems to have eliminated the bulk of the racist, homophobic 12 year old gamers that ruined XBL for me. Most of them couldn't even put on their shoes to get to the store without drooling all over themselves, slipping in the drool hitting their heads and then yelling how it was all the "insert racial slurs here" fault before forgetting why they were putting on their shoes in the first place.
"-Also see what my friends are DOING in the game. Playing Skate 2, ok. Is he online? in a match? career?" That feature is already available (See LBP and SOCOM). Devs just need to implement it in their games.
Sony really needs to do more than the article says if it wants to match the quality of XBL. Right now, the PSN is the ugly red headed little brother nobody cares about. After reading some the the PS3 fanboys rants, I do agree that with big titles like COD, they should implement dedicated servers, that would be one thing I would like to see improved on XBL. But Sony really needs to do a lot more work on their service, and I will continue to buy "online" games for the 360 instead of my PS3 until they address the serious problems the PSN has..
Psn is fine where it is right now. Why the hell would I want to talk to you when i'm playing a different game . You have something to ask me , message me . People should realize that majority of the ps3 owners are adults other than chatting on FPS . I don't need to speak to you about anything . I don't even like to talk to friends on the phone sometimes so what does he have to say that so important that when he is playing another game that he has to bother me with the games that i'm playing.I know kids like to do that shlt ... So why do you text people on your phone rather than pick up the phone and call them ?
More Demos, Custom advatars, free mics? PSN is lacking in content. Demos come out like 1nce ever 3 months. Acarde games are rare releases. It's just not as refinded.
Actually not a bad article, although from a personal perspective I'd debate him on a few of his points: 1. More Status options - I don't really care on this one. Either way works for me, although I wouldn't mind the title of whatever I'm doing to show up under my PSN name. 2. MySpace-like PSN Profile - In a word: NO. I don't want to make some comprehensive profile on me. If people want to know something about me they can ask and I can decide whether or not I want them to know. 3. Top Friends List - Again, I don't really care. I don't need others knowing who my top friends are as they most likely don't give a crap. 4. Top 10 Most Played PSN List - Not a bad idea. It's always nice to see what's popular. 5. Youtube for games - 4 simple words: Don't give a crap. I'm not interested in thumping my chest and bragging about how I'm better than everyone else 6. Video messaging - Only handy if you happen to have the PS Eye. And chances are if I'm on my PS3 I'm playing a game and not interested in video conferencing with somebody. If I'm in the XMB, not a bad idea. 7. PSN/Playstation.com Integration - Good idea. That's a feature I know I'd use. 8. Voice clip sending - Again, not a bad idea. Faster than 'texting'. 9. Custom Soundtracks - This one I go either way. I know some people would love to listen to their own music. On the other hand I love listening to in game music as some of it is truly grand. I'll cite Valkyria Chronicles here for that example. 10. In Game Chat - COULD be a good feature. As long as it's only between you and a friend and not a plethora of mongoloids listening in game. Sorry for this rather lengthy post, just listing how I either agree or disagree. For me, the PSN is pretty damned decent considering that online gaming is free. Not bad for a company that continues to deliver and improve it's product. Again, for free. And I paid for it over 2 years ago. Good work, Sony keep it up.
are you another nasim account?? i think you could well be! i think the most important thing to do, would be to stop these blog sites masquerading as web-sites writing articles aimed at n4g continuing this silly console war! that would be the best thing ever imo. 2 disagrees...feline and another one of his accounts perhaps?
Sorry, FelinePornographer(Photographe r? can't be bothered to look up which one your name is!), but I clicked disagree when I meant to hit agree! Argh! Why can't you change your vote? Either way, yeah, I agree, I prefer PSN just for the sake that it's free. Until Xbox Live let's all its users play all their games online for free, they'll never have the better service in my opinion. I don't give a damn about the bells & whistles, I just want to play.
cross game chat and party chat. ability to chat while playing game, right now I have to quit my game or pause it in order to accept a chat invite. simplify the game invite process, and make it uniform across all games. allow me to view what my friends are doing on my pc. I think that's about it??
You can already see what your friends are doing through the PC... Just go to the Playstation website and log in... Then click on the Buddy List! =D
go to www.us.playstation.com. cross your psn id and all the info is there. i think all the psn needs if better users. WE seem to complain alot. xbox360 users pay 50 dollars extra for in game chat. i dont here them crying half as much as we do!
Hey Thanks guys, I see it now. I guess would be nice to be able to send a message to them too from the PC (stops whining now)
in my opinion, standardize. create the code, buy it, hand it out something so that all games have soundtrack, access to friends list etc.. even if they dont add crss game chat etc soon, standardizing what they do have and making sure that developers use it would go a long way.
I would like cross game chat. But I think thats the only thing it needs. I already feel it's as good as XBL. Free service and I don't miss a beat with my online gaming.
But apparently (according to friends who are in the dev. scene), the biggest obstacle is the PS3 Operating System itself (the XMB runs on top of this OS). The current OS isn't really designed for cross-application functions, and apparently that's what's making it virtually impossible to implement most things that people are asking for, namely private chat. I have to admit; Microsoft had a huge advantage just for having the Windows OS know-how. I'll gladly install a new OS for my PS3 if it gives me private chat. The 360 pulled off an NXE-type OS overhaul. The PS3 should do something similar to that instead of wasting money on gimmicks like HOME.
If the cost for service remains FREE, it is already better than Xbox Live. $50 a year for cross in-game chat and custom sound tracks, no thanks. unless I am missing other key features that Live has over PSN?
actually your paying for just paying for the connection because you can do that on silver
cross game chat and party chat. ability to chat while playing game, right now I have to quit my game or pause it in order to accept a chat invite. simplify the game invite process, and make it uniform across all games. allow me to view what my friends are doing on my pc. Agreed, maybe overhaul XMB add some color to it for god sakes its boring as hell, functional yes, but no appealing in the least bit to an average consumer, whom which is the user base up and coming to grab
that mkes xmb much more colourful
psn has a long way to go before its quality of service matches xbox live. I went without live for the last 5 months and just recently renewed it and it made me truly appreciate its quality over my psn service on my ps3. Psn is slower, less reliable and all around just worse. Also i think the ps3 menu system is rather slow and boring tbh.
PSN is slower? You mean, psn have lag?.. resistance 2, warhawk say hi. I just don't see how the psn is less reliable. But man, is your opinion. maybe you have a bad conection and that's all.
Nothing, it's already better. I see you hovering over the disagree button.... do it... I DARE YOU! I will warn you though, i rigged your mouse to explode upon clicking it, it's your choice.
yes i disagreed and yes xbl is better overall what's wrong with you?
Actually, great online games such as: Wipeout, Pixeljunk, pain, and many others PLUS the service is free equals.... dUM DA DUM PSN is better. Whats wrong with YOU?
and 360,im not baised everybody here knows that get real
How can we expect an unbiased answer from you??
Uhhh, it's not biased. It's just my opinion... hmmm ever heard of one of those... have you? Ya, i own a ps3, wii, and my good friend owns a 360. Now i have played it multiple times and used the service. Now, in my ">OPINION<" PSN is superior. Damn you people need to stop hating on people for expressing themselves.
Im not hating on your opinion. It's just with a tag like "PS3freak" we know you love the PS3 and are very devoted to it. So of course you would prefer the PSN over XBL, it's understood. Now if my tag was 360freak and I said "XBL rules" then yeah it would kinda of be a biased observation. I have both PS3 and the 360. I belive that XBL is at the moment better then PSN, if this rumoured 3.0 update does what it is rumoured to do, then yeah I would say PSN is better then XBL due to the fact PSN is free, while I pay $50/year for XBL.
To me its better since its free and all I want to play is games online. I dont need chit chat and other useless, non game features. I so wish I didnt have to pay for LIve just to play games. If they offered a plan not to charge for JUST gameplay and charge for chit chat crap and gamercards...so many wouldnt pay for that stuff
Really, not only did sony allow me to give all my downloaded games to my bro's ps3, all i do is send a quick text asking,"wanna play a game of (insert game)?". Does xbl allow game sharing? And not to mention live has no full retail games to download.
Not all of the PSN games can be shared. Warhawk and several PSone games can't be shared. When you look at the download agreement it says "You must be logged on the original account that purchased the game". This Means that if you download it on another PS3 it'll only work if your signed in to the account that bought it. Saw this yesterday when looking at a few PlayStation 1 game downloads. I'm with you Lokiroo420 just thought you should be made aware of some titles having exclusions to sharing in the way you mentioned.
Yeah I know that to be true, few and far between, I just think it is a great feature and not many talk about it. I have given him around 25 games for free, majority ps3 titles, its just cool that when I have some extra cash he can benefit as well, playing to get trophies first while i am across state. ALthough I hadnt seen a ps1 game restricted to one account, which one(s) had it?
Private chat. Unified invite structure. Done. At least for me.
Cross-chat too, why not games invites but the cross-chat is the only feature that remains useful on XBL. This, and a wireless headset inside each PS3 pack, because when i play Resistance 2 in coop, i find it terribly quiet (and when you know that coop is quite strategic, the fact that nobody asks for ammos or health is quite disturbing).
Yeah, killzone 2 will be the same, asking for health, or for turrets. But when i was on the beta, it seems that everyone had a headset. There weren't any match without ppl talking. I just don't want kids yelling "you mh4th32f0ck32 health me! hurry up [email protected]!"
Less of these flamebaiting arguments. That would be a start.
ah its too bad 2 of the things he mentioned can already be done
even if xbl was free you still wouldn't like it because it's not for your platform of choice. there is nothing wrong with psn. it's a work in progress cross game chat is the biggest feature they are missing and that's it imo. I would love for msft to make xbl free just so people can come up with another reason as to why they don't like the service. then it'll be too many kids, the excuses will never stop just like the excuses will never stop as to why some gamers don't like the ps3. I prefer the 360 for 1 reason only I have more friends on xbl than psn. 30+ to 14. No contest and these are people I actually know. what's wrong with gamers having a prefrence? Also why does psn need to be better than xbox live??? Can anyone answer that for me with a logical explanation? As this hobby we love goes more and more mainstream hardcore gamers are sitting around bickering about ps3 vs 360, and it really needs to stop.
Who cares about the features at the moment. Sony needs to focus on the PSN GAMES! There okay at the moment but it's not worth the 10bucks or so.
Umm... Pixel Junk Monsters, Eden, WipeOut HD, flOw, Ratchet & Clank Quest for Booty, Super StarDust HD, Everyday Shooter, Warhawk, Socom, Lumines, Cubiod, Calling all cars, and Crash Commando deserve my every single penny. Fun, innovative, and simply great games only on PSN... Not to mention upcoming highly anticipated games like Fat Princess, Rag Doll Kung Fu, Trine, 3 more Pixel junk games, Noby Noby Boy, and flOwer.... Sorry but the PSN library is awesome! And this is only the first party! The third party support on PSN is awesome as well!
dont forget soldner-x
Since there's no more b/c for the current console, bring in more PS1 & PS2 games. Those are the two biggest libraries of all time and yet if you want to play them you will have to get your old consoles out to do so. That's the biggest and only change that I want.
besides the whole chat thing I don't get why when downloading something from psn it has to go through a separate install process. You would think if you are downloading it, you want to install it...??? Or better yet, why it doesnt automatically use background dl by default. I hate telling it to dl in the background just so I can browse around at other stuff. When i queue up stuff in live, it downloads them and installs them at the same time. Not separate steps. I would also like to have proper background downloading for the ps3 as seen on the 360. If I choose to shut down my ps3 andit is downloading, sure it will turn off eventually but it still remains on (on screen) until it finishes. Anyone with a 360 can tell you that when it shuts down and is background downloading, it is literally shut down and just blinks indicating it is still active dl. the screen goes black and I can turn on something else. In the end I think those with both are wanting both to be alike which they dont have to be to do their job. Even these little nitpick things aren't a requirement for me to continue using one or the other. They are conveniences and therefore only benefit the user who uses them. Others may not care as much. While I would like my 360 to do wifi and free online and my ps3 to have real netflix access (without using a pc as a server) or custom soundtracks. Neither is better or worse than the other when it comes to offering me games to play. I am satisfied with both. Wii....that's another story....
Ever heard of compression, make the download smaller and faster. And did you really complain about having to hit the x button one time?
oh what about this long azz updates? they take forever to download and then you still have to install! same with the demos. Why can't it been like LIVE. Like every update takes seconds on Live and no installing too.
Sometimes there are stupid firmware updates.. but most of the times they worth the wait. Installing demos you say? That takes 30-45 seconds man. Installing games is another history.. but there are ppl that just don't care about that (yes, i'm talking about the ones who have 320-500 HDD)
PS needs blockbuster and they need to kill the installs
naw screw blockbuster... rogers is where it's at.
The PSN is a joke compared to XBL. If they charged, nobody would use it. Now that's saying something. People pay $50 a year for XBOX because it's worth it. I don't use the PSN, and it's free. That's saying mountains about the quality and usability of the two services. If you don't believe me, check my gamer tag Crunchmaster83, PSN ID... hold on lemme think about it, I haven't used it since I created it... ddubski. I have ten to fifteen real friends on XBOX LIVE (real, close friends) versus 1 friend on PSN. That's the problem with our economy, people show no loyalty to their country.. and please feel free to flame me on this all you want, you know I'm right.
I dont pay for live.......SO i know you're wrong. And i like free stuff, kill me.
ppl like free stuff man xd.
I thought that it was common knowledge now but obviously not...... All PSN games dont have dedicated servers and all LIVE games dont have P2P. There is a split of dedicated/P2P for each service. If LIVE was free - perhaps with an unskippable 10 second advert the first time each day that you go online (to pay for the service) then it would be even more awesome. Sony are getting there though - just in 'fits and starts' is all.
Does it need to be better? A working and intuitive service is all that is required IMO; which is better or worse is for bad blogs and fanboys to argue over.
keep being free and it is already better as far as I'm concerned. PSN doesn't lag for me so whatever. Hook up a game over Live or PSN and I wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
WOW YOUR DUMB
This article just said all the features that the NXE has. I find that funny. I love my ps3 but its online communication is lacking to say the least. Cross game voice chat and party system, is it that hard Sony.
What I want to see is more Ps1 classics on the PSN store, Ps2 Classics added aswell. And like a chatter said i would like to be able to have more avatars or atleast have the option to add my own avatars. Plus they need old arcade games like what Nintendo has and Xbox have. I would not mind being able to download BattleToads or even double dragon or hell even the old Sonic game from the PSN. And i want the downloadable movies to come to Canada aswell. I honestly would not mind seeing an option pop up on screen to say this many friends playing a game like COD 4 and in game invites would be nice to. And i would not mind seeing what type of games friends are playing aswell. I know it sounds alot like Live but its a nice option to have.
this sh1t AGAIN! psn will never be as good as live no matter what. microsoft is the kings of online. sony which is a bunch of japanese fuktards never thought online play would ever be important, therefore psn and whatever sony does with it will always be inferior to xbox live. xbox 360 has beaten the ps3, HANDS DOWN. psn SUCKS!
I own a ps3, but ive played on XBL and i think it was more fun playing XBL partially cause its like inviting a group of your best friends over and playing, without the nussiance of having to clean up after them, or dealing with split screens.. BUT, the fact that psn is free is nice.. really nice.. and the high player groups add to the fun,, now if only I felt like i was playing with People, and not AI's///
Dude, XBL will always be more stable and have better features such as the party system and being able to handle messages and stuff on xbox.com while PSN is free personaly i wouldnt mind paying for PSN if they got it up to parr with XBL.
Not much. 3/4s of the way there, already and for totally free. Two crosses only; Cross game chat. Cross game invites. More interraction with PSP, like that Jap service (forgot the name) Massive library of PSone games to chose from in Platinum/Greatest Hits range. That will be enough for me. These features everyone asking for will be arriving patched into newer games anyway, IF they don't arrive in firmwares judging by the patching of custom soundtracks, the upcoming multi sign-in Resistance 2 patch, the mutiplayer profile signing in on LBP and the numberous features on Killzone 2 as we've seen on the back of the box.