Treyarch's conception of the Veteran difficulty is deeply flawed. The game's programmers seem to think that the best way to make a game harder to to make your fellow soldiers as stupid as possible.
I'll give you some impressions. Veteran mode in CoD:WaW in Treyarchs mind means "Every single grenade known to man is aimed at your head and the enemies seem to be able to snipe you from the farthest of distances, even with a weapon such as a pistol. Teammates are nothing, they are gunning for your face, and your face alone" Case in point...it's just retarded.
Id like to add that no matter how many you kill they just replenish and stand back in the same spots. Call of Duty 4 did this too. There should be a cap on how many enemies there are, despite it being the hardest difficulty. At points i just threw smoke and ran through in order to beat levels. Surprisingly it works very well.
I am going to utilize your smoke and run tactic. See if it makes me even bother taking the game out of the case again. And you're right about the infinite spawning enemies. I wouldn't mind it if I didn't have 400 grenades attached to my legs as soon as I start the mission.
I invented some new verbal obscenities en route to getting the Platinum Trophy for this game.
I just started to tackle the campaign on easy then planned on veteran later. Guess that wont be happening as well as a 1000/1000 completion. I was able to get 1000/1000 in COD2 and COD4. Now COD4 was freaking hard but if this is just cheap and lame forget it. Never buying a treyarch game again possibly as this game was some real crap.
I got the WaW Platinum... I also have 1 broken analog stick :( The trophy for sniping that guy with a pistol is a HARD! It took me over 3 hours and suddenly the screen turned slow-mo and I got a trophy :) (If you don't believe me my PSN is FURY _ _ UNLEASHED)
"At points i just threw smoke and ran through in order to beat levels. Surprisingly it works very well." That worked for me too. Unfortunately I'm stuck on the 2nd to last level for the last F'in two trophies. And another thing is that you don't get smoke grenades when playing the Russian missions. Treyarch, you guys suck for this so-called "veteran's" mode.
Some of these levels are beyond annoying and messed up on Veteran. And the sniper duel is just the most fricking annoying ever. I don't know why, but I have trouble with that on all difficulties. Right now I' not sure if I'm going to bother with the 4 last level on veteran at all. It's just not fun...
I've always said if Treyarch and EPIC games got together to make a game it'd blow our minds how terrible it is. I'm sure they'd have the campaign filled with nonstop chainsaw grenades, that upon detonation heat seek through everyone and everything to cut you to pieces. Of course 50 of them would drop at once. The online would be unplayable and filled with bugs upon bugs. However, it will be really simple to play and revolve around just 1 button. They will then start marketing to make a controller with just 1 stick and one shiny red button. It'll be called The Craptastic Adventure and it will get great reviews. It will also be heavily played, and the fanboys will nuthug it to death as the best thing ever. :D
So you post on Sherdog?
this is just rediculous though!
COD WAW's Veteran mode is f*cked up! I agree with everything my fellow gamers above have posted and would like to add having enemies perpetually respawn is just pure lazy. I can see this game getting traded in as soon as killzone 2 is released.
The veteran difficulty of this game is pure crap. All they do is throwing you an infinite amount of grenade on you. Treyarch prove again that they cant do a good game ...Ewww cod3 ...
yup, nades galore and team mates standing in your line of fire shot blocking.
The grenades that gate in from a alternate dimension right next to you? No thrower necessary...just for the sake of making sure you are never allowed to take cover.
co4 is same way too. Instead of making smart AI. its pure script.
playing this game on veteran was much harder than cod 4 on veteran mainly because i never really like the weapons all that much and that there were more grenades thrwn at you. I have beaten both games on veteran and this one is very difficult. i espeacially hated the level burn em out and tthe 2nd last level where u storm the 3rd reich building. In the end im hppy i finished the game on veteran. the only thing stopping me from having the full 1000 gamer score is the achievement where u shoot 45 enemy planes down in the black cats level :( Gamertag: SAUCY SMAWN
Veteran wouldn't be so bad if your buddies weren't retarded and if your enemies didn't throw endless amounts of grenades. seriously i threw 5 of the dam things back afer taking cover, one after another, and your team mates have a habit of facing a wall and trying to fire threw it.
They failed to make the game more interesting on harder difficulty and succeeded on making the game annoying on Veteran difficulty.
I am finished with their wash, rinse, repeat methodology of game play. How realistic is it for a German soldier across an entire city square to run past a window, aim threw a sniper scope, and put a bullet in your head all in one motion...utter BS...and that was only on hardened. You hit him anywhere but the head and he was only wounded. You aim low he comes out high...you aim high he comes out low...or won't come out at all until your hold breath had expired. Then POP your dead...and fuming. And on top of that they reward you with the craptacular Purple Heart achievement (after dying enough times) to add insult to injury.
I can see the gripe with the campaign. But the online is where it is at with the Call of Duty series. That is where you should spend most of your time. Try some co-op. Its a blast.
It took me probably over 100 tries at killing the sniper across the way. I "just grazed him" or "just wounded him" a ton of times. His cat-like reflexes tore my head off every time though. How did I beat it? Well one time the sniper "thought" he was behind a wall but he was in front of a window. I shot him three times as he didn't notice. I'll take that glitch gladly.
That mission is a lot about "baiting" him out a couple of times. If you see he's in one window, duck when he pops out, then remember where he was. Then pop out and look for where he ran next. Aim your gun right there, when he pops out, blaow. Yeah and uhh..do this..3 times. Stupid I know, but that's what you gotta do. Veteran mode is just a b because of the grenades. Had it not been for the grenades I'd probably like it.
Yea that part was my least favorite segment of the game. I can't even believe there is a trophy for sniping the General with the pistol. One day that trophy will be mine. IT WILL BE MINE!!!
Veteran difficulty is just insane. I'm new to the Call of Duty series I just bought the game a week ago. I beat it on normal and decided to give the veteran difficulty a try. I must have died 10 times on the first level. Overall the game is awesome. But the grenades and dogs get a little annoying after a while. The very last level though is awesome. Multiplayer is addicting as hell. Especially competitive co-op.
"I must have died 10 times on the first level." I've probably died 300+ times already (Not exaggerating). And still don't have the last two trophies.
I did beat this game on Veteran to get the Trophy, but the 2nd last level, I counted how many times I died before I beat it finally: 187 times! It appears the Germans have heat-seeking grenades. Everywhere I ran, all I heard was "Dingdingding! *BOOM*".
"heat-seeking grenades." Doubt it. More like laser targeting systems on each grenade that only targets YOU. :X
yea that level, the second flak88 was too hard to destroy, however after i got lucky and got it the rest was not as bad also the mission were you have the flamethrower and have to clean the tunnels, that was one hell of a level
kinda stopped and just started multiplayer. blew up the second flak and couldn't advance after 20 successive deaths. I'll beat it eventually but WOW.
Actually, I just finished the game on veteran yesterday (wednesday). It is insane. I was stuck in the mission where you have to destroy 4 flak88 for four days.
hell yeah, that part pissed me off so much. i got through that part but it was TOUGH. had to use the rockets for 2 of those things
WAW was my second platinum. Hard as hell... Unlike my first platinum "burnout"
If getting a Platinum trophy for those games is anything close to WaW. I'll have a full patch of gray hair after the 2nd game. And I'm only 24. I should probably just quit trying to get trophies. lol
Even worse, when I played through the Burn'em Out level, I finally managed to get to the last checkpoint just before the last mortar pit. After trying that 25 times I decided to take a break. Only when I try to load my game later, it says the save game isn't compatible with my version, so I will have to do the whole mission again. Strangely I hadn't updated the game in between...
Sometimes you'll have to replay the mission from the beginning. I recommend completing a mission one at a time unfortunately. Same thing happened to me and until my friend started playing it, I initially thought it was a corrupted save. Then it happened to him.
i lost so much.
Trust me. The only level where they come endlessly is the "For the Motherland" mission and only at the Flak 88 cannons. Treyarch treats certain enemy soldiers like a set piece. Once you kill him, another will respawn in his place for 5 times. Don't believe me, try it. I'm glad they made the buddy AI half retarded because IW completely nerfed them in CoD4. You can make it through entire levels w/o shooting. The buddy AI is TOO good. In hindsight, CoD4's SP was a waste. The Epilogue was the only challenging stage in the game, and it was over in 2 minutes. I agree the grenades are silly. There's no way to outrun them since German and Japanese soldiers can throw them like boomerangs. Like Drewdrake said, use your smokes on the hardest sections. Aside from old Socom (needing to throw both types of smokes to avoid sniper fire) I don't think I ever needed to use smokes to survive in another game.
I thought I was the only one who felt this way. I've beaten every CoD game on Veteran. This CoD 3 was the only game I ever threw my controller on the floor being PO'ed ever!! I 110% agree, why anytime I'm in cover, I have at least 3-5 grenades throw at me. Not only that I could be at least 15-20 yards away from my squad in a fire-fight, I'm the prime target. But my squad is fighting, and their bullets are made of rubber. But I'll be cheating myself, If I do not finish this game on Veteran mode first.
thought it was pain in the ass but not that bad.The grenades do get out of hand on a couple levels but the trick is you have to get to a certain point where your troops do actually push the enemies back. So the AI isn't is bad as they say.Just need to to some belly crawling and quit aiming and shooting if in a real war you don't go running out in the open.
that game is hard. if your that good at it. post your account and lets see your 100%
I've got the Platinum for COD WAW, I didn't think the Veteran difficulty was that hard apart from the Downfall level where it took me about 2 hours just to enter the first room >:(
Like the rest of you, I think the grenades are way out of hand. I know its a games but is is based on reality and being bombarded with 5-6 grenades every few seconds is completely unrealistic and frustrating to no end. I also agree that the AI is mentally incapable at the least on veteran difficulty. Make the AI smarter not dumber. Have them throw smoke, flank, and use suppressing fire instead of the cheap and easy way (grenades and stupidity). I picked up up a few vet achievements and then just quit due to fear of breaking my controller or the plasma. Now leave WWII in the past for a few years and bring on Modern Warfare 2 so I can gripe some more. :)
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