Microsoft's New Greed: DLC

The words Downloadable Content were never even a thought in gamers minds until Microsoft brought us the innovation as a way to further enhance the games that people love to invest so much time into. So let me be the first to say "thank you Microsoft".

Let me also be the first to say "kiss my ass Microsoft".

The new sudden onslaught of games offering bonus content is staggering. Everything from new weapons, clothes, to courses, arenas etc. The list just goes on and on. Most of it is crap. Plain and simple selling clothes and cars etc. is just a way to cash in on a games popularity amongst gamers who purchase the games. So this is all fair and no secret. Fair enough. What's not fair is Microsoft and certain 3rd party developers deciding to have DLC done and ready to go at the time of the games release.

[omodis420]

Good read. I'm still buying the levels for Bioshock though.

[littletad]

A pointless read? Sure there are some pretty sleazy tactics publishers and developers use to get more money out of us. But there's also a good side to the whole DLC. Continuation of a great game through more content is a great idea, if the game is really good and the content worth it. Not only that but before DLC, most games were shipped with bugs or glitches and that was the end of it. Unless it was a pc game, there were no fixes or updates. DLC along with the network community changed all that.

[LoVeRSaMa]

I have a hard enough time buying the games, I hate paying for something thats not "Real", I will NEVER buy DLC.

[cayal]

This just in...I don't give a f*** about DLC.

[0verdrive]

i used to get pissed off about not getting dlc, being a ps3 only owner, especially because we didnt get the fallout3 dlc. but after seeing the impressions about the first fallout dlc, i have concluded that dlc is nothing more than a cheap marketing scam aimed at making people purchase the 360 version of the game. i was excited to hear that mirrors edge was getting ps3 exclusive content, but that has ended up to be pretty insignificant, similar to pretty much any and all dlc that has released for ANY game, ever. im not criticizing the logic behind this, as it does seem to pull game sales in one the favor of the company with dlc, but i personally have given up on dlc. unless the upcoming gta dlc blows me away, im going to have to say that dlc in general is just afterthoughts to the finishe product, meager in content, and just plain dumb. really the only dlc i actually feel was worth the buy was the mgs pack for lbp. other than that ive yet to see a good dlc that was worth the money.

[rockleex]

For awhile now. O_o

Microsoft did not "invent" DLC. -_-"

Although I am tired of the majority of pointless DLC. Oh well, developers will learn over time what kind of DLC works, and when it should be free.

[FarEastOrient]

Horse armor is the one that started this mess not Microsoft!

[tnkGODimATHEIST]

indeed

[oriol003]

Why does everyone complain is it because they are jealous of the amazing live sysmte Microsoft has provided for us?

[omodis420]

PSN works fine.

[tnkGODimATHEIST]

no it doesn't its garbage I have it myself

[omodis420]

You know you bought an xbox and pretend its a PS3

[Helghast Slayer]

Oi looser. MicroSCUM started this DLC nonesense by using a last gen dvd format for a so called "NEXT GEN" console. The lack of space is the reason devs can't fit or choose not to incorporate the DLC into the full retail game.

Since most games are lead on the 360 the ps3 has to suffer the same fate because all it gets is 360 ports. So yeah you can thank M$ for the innovation of ruining the gaming industry with their devilish tactics.

[ultimolu]

...You spelled system wrong.

And I don't see who's jealous of anything when the competition offers it for free.

[Graphics Whore]

Lmao.

[Creep]

no it's because taht's what MS does they sell half the game with chunks taken out then sells them to u as DLC but idiots buy it anyways so they make a deal with 3rd party developers to hurt the competition "so they say" but in the end their just in it to make a couple of buck for example the gears of war 2 three maps they realease not to long ago which are lame ass maps that should of been on the final build of the game for 10 bucks plz!!! it's just a redone of an old map ant two news only a dumbass would buy or some stupid kid

[ASSASSYN 36o]

Let me get this right. Agreeing with this article means you sony nuts and even MS nuts have no intrests what so ever in DLC ms or sony? And since when was anything about DLC new?

Just because the frequency of it has increased this nut has a problem. And I tried to find where DLC was forced upon you. It is optional. The crave people have for it is apparently a problem for some people.

And I am sure the logistics for launching a game are demanding on publishers and developers. I can wait a couple of months for DLC for some games. (Fable and Fallout).

This fool should try to launch a game in a global recession then pump out DLC the same day and see how effective his delivery is.

And yes I think MS, sony, and developers are doing fine with DLC. Carry on!

[dragunrising]

Agreed, another whine and complain article. I wish the title was different; typical flamebait. The article itself names PC, 360 & PS3 as being a DLC problem. Gears of War 2 is the most outrageous...I agree, although until we start boycotting the content, there will be more cheap DLC. If dev/pubs supported their games with free DLC for a few months, it might be worth actually putting down money for DLC in the future. Burnout Paradise is the best example I can think of. I bought the game for $21 new, however the game still has unreleased free and pay DLC. Pretty awesome if you ask me.

[Why dis]

omodis420

[omodis420]

I love you WHY dis. You are my arch nemesis on N4G. Everyone shun me. Didn't you tell everyone not to approve articles I post? Oh yea wait... You can't see who is posting articles. Looks like you are stuck with me. Remember man its like I told you yesterday. No hate all love. Or something like that. I was kinda blazed.

[xbox360achievements]

Incase you hadn't noticed, the DLC craze is a profitable craze with developers and publishers to extend the life of their "premium" titles at minimum cost and maximum efficiency.

The title is totally misleading as well because everyone is doing it ... Ubisoft, Rockstar, EA, Microsoft and ... wait for it ... Sony! LittleBigPlanet is a perfect example.

Since when did MS start DLC as well? DLC has been a staple in PC gaming for longer than this author has been wearing pants. Like it or not, but DLC is part of EVERY publisher's plans in this day and age. Get with the times.

Talk about fishing for hits ... his "article" even acknowledges that it's not MS totally. So why would he put that as the title other than to get hits?

[omodis420]

Read the last two paragraphs again.

[xbox360achievements]

Yeah, and read my last two paragraphs :P

I quote "Microsoft is not the only company doing this. I know this, but they were the ones to make the practice popular." Whatever happened to PC gaming making this a trend? MS and Sony only do it now because their consoles weren't equipped to do it 5 years ago.

The article is headed as "Microsoft's New Greed" which is obviously a fanboy opinion rather than fact. The title should read "Industry Evolution: DLC Becoming More Popular"

And seriously, who the hell doesn't love extending the great games that are seeing the DLC coming? Mirror's Edge, Prince of Persia, GTA IV, Fallout 3, Tomb Raider: Underworld, Fable 2, LittleBigPlanet ... I would say that DLC is a win-win situation all round.

[ultimolu]

And you know what else is fanboyish? Acting as if Microsoft can do no wrong.

[Man_of_the_year]

Or acting like Sony can do no wrong. Right? Cause its not just Microsoft that can do no wrong right, cause other competitors in the same market can also do wrong...right, right....

I am sure you weren't trying to insinuate that xbox360achievements was defending Microsoft as he was clearly pointing out the errors with the title of the article and how it mis-represents the meaning of the article the author was trying to make...right, right, i am sure you weren't insinuating that right...right...

[ultimolu]

I never insinuated that Sony can never do any wrong nor any corporation. But the article still brought up good points IMO. I still think until this day that the $50million for GTAIV DLC could have been used towards a new game...perhaps towards Killer Instinct 3 or something of that nature.

[Sez]

first off. why are you so concern about the 50 million MS spent on exclusive content. is it because you don't have a 360 to get it? or maybe it the fact that it's not coming to the ps3? you don't have a 360 so i fail to see why you and other sony fans constantly keep complaining about it.

point is this guy is clearly looking for hits. because his rant involves more than just MS. but only uses MS in his title. when it's more companys involve then just them. you say we act like MS can do no wrong. yet you praise sony for everything they do. if theres a article about the 360 is doom,RRoD,disk read,ect. you and the rest of the SDF come runing to the thread to bash MS and the 360. yet if there an article about the ps3 is doom,YLoD,firmware crashes,ect. you are quick to defend it.

point is. if you like a game that much and want more out of it. then there is nothing wrong with DLC. if you don't like whats being offered then you don't. the only problem i have with DLC is if you have to buy the ending. but extending the life of your favorite game is agood thing. i sure if sony wants to extend the life of there exclusive(LBP,MGS4,Home,KZ2,R2 ,ect.) you are the rest of the people b!tchen in this post. would be the first one to buy it.

@below.
you jst proved my point. you are b!tching for what. killer instinct3. what will that game make you run out and buy a 360? no it won't. so why does it concern you so much? answer NO it doesn't. you problem is the fact that the 360 is getting games that was once exclusive to your favorite company/system. now it's not anymore because they want to make more money. and you don't like that. because it takes sell away from the ps3. well too bad deal with it.

again if you don't like the DLC. then don't buy it. instend of hiding under the fact that MS spent money to make money (which all companys want) to get more people to buy games for their system. if you feel so strongly about DLC being a waste of money and time. then b!tch to sony about DLC for LBP,warhark,ect.

[ultimolu]

Excuse me for not saying that Killer Instinct was one of my favorite fighting games vega and I wish Microsoft would move their asses to work on Killer Instinct 3!

And if you hate the PS3 so much, then why do you waste your time attacking it?

Get over yourself, please do.

I know I don't own a 360. I don't need you or anyone else reiterating that. So what? Just because I don't have a 360, I can't hope for Microsoft for once in their lives work on a new IP? My brother owns a 360. I have played on it before. I actually knows what it looks like.

And another thing dear. I do not care for DLC. I have not wasted money on DLC. I play the game for what it is. The game is more than enough for me to enjoy it.

You just can't stand anyone criticizing Microsoft, that's your problem.

[ASSASSYN 36o]

I think he can't stand hypocrites ultimolu...hypocrite.

[ultimolu]

...In case you haven't noticed, the reason why I haven't bought a 360 is because it's still riddled with defects! So I am a hypocrite for wanting to see a better console from Microsoft?

Oh deary me! :o

Please. -__-

[Man_of_the_year]

I understand your point. However the $50 million i think was also to entise R* to develope the game for the 360 as well as exclusive DLC. Also how do we not know that KI2 is not in the works? As far as we know they could be doing some finial polishes as we speak and the game could be announced this year. You are just speculating that the game is not in development and that the $50 million could have went towards it.

[brycespitler]

with the author
no im not talking about fallout 3 or gta dlc

im talking about the buy a new map thing.
that should be free as an incentive especially if they finished it b4 game release

and the whole bioshock dlc was complete bullsh!t
i am not paying $10 to get a little sister down from a freaking ferris wheel
that should of came with the game especially since the game was over a year old anyways

the fallout 3 and gta dlc should be charged since they are actual new missions and story

[Cajun Chicken]

Not much of a first party team of developers left due to liquidating, firing them or choosing independence over the last five or so years?

Not many exclusives being made?

All previous exclusive franchises from third party publishers being made multiplat and can be equally played on your main competitor?

Competitor's rapidly growing free online service worrying you in the corner of your mind whilst you charge away for minor additions?

Then...

'CHOOSE DLC!'®

'Its the only thing you've got!'®

Until YOU can be bothered buying new developers for inhouse and risk publishing a new IP!

'DLC! Its the only way left for you!'®

[Evil Gamer]

Again..since your one of the cool posters..Evil will respectfully agree...

Do you honestly believe that disasembling Ensemble or the guys who made Flight Silulator pushes Xbox360 into a DLC corner?

DLC was a great move to distinguish your product in a multi-platform world..and yup it worked to fend off defectors when the ULTRA successful Grand Theft Auto was released.

But cmon..In-house studios are overrated...partnership is where it's at. do you really want to call Gears of War 2, Mass Effect, Bioshock, Fable 2, Left 4 Dead, Lost Prophecy Dead Rising, Condemned, Prey etc.... Downloadable content??

What's the complaint? Most of those were NEW IPs...you have a huge install base..the BEST attachment rate in the industry..the best online service..why panic?

DLC is a choice..period..if it makes you money..lie all of the levels make the developers of Little Big Planet and Sony..more power to everybody...

[Cajun Chicken]

They also closed Digital Anvil (Freelancer, Brute Force), FASA Studio (Mechwarrior, Crimson Skies, Shadowrun) and shrugged off Oddworld Inhabitants with their second 360 exclusive game, So I have my reasons. This is one of many reasons I don't have favoritism with MS.

All the developers Sony aquired over the years are still alive, pumping out quality and IP. Can't say the same for MS's and they left Oddworld Inhabitants in a VERY bad position, guess it was their fault hopping over to MS in the first place; Munches Oddysee was supposed to be a PS2 title.

For example, most of said example MS IPs have now jumped multiplat for remakes and sequels. First party matters, it matters so much.

For example, most of said IPs have now jumped to multiplat for remakes and sequels.

My points are still valid (to me), MS is trying to replace exclusive games and first party devs with DLC which alienates supporters of the developers.

Say inhouse is overrated to the first party devs that kept Sony's machines going for so long without closing ONE or losing touch with an associate dev as of yet. Naughty Dog (Crash Bandicoot, Jak) and Uncharted is a VERY good example.

[Evil Gamer]

Man..I definately think it's all based on the success of the product...it's ashame that quirky titles with good rating like Oddworld always got never had that mainstream success...which is why people always get it misconstrued..sales matter! I remember when people thought Brute force was going to be the next Halo..it got EATEN ALIVE by the critics..and never got a chance to move units..(blame EGM not Microsoft)...I'm not going to lie..I think Shadowrun was underrated..and always hoped for a next-gen 'Crimson'..but when you look at Microsoft purchasing these studios like RARE and getting Viva 1 & 2 plus great reviews..without the success to back the product..i'm sure it hurts the chances for these studios to make sense in this harsh economy..and i'm sure if Sony didn't have a great track record like the franchise Naughty Dog that gave us 'Crash' delivering time and time again..they would be more apt to react in a similiar manner..but I'm just logically speculating what I have seen throught the years..i'm sure there are variables that the gamer doesn't see

[NaiNaiNai]

just a question are you so poor that you have to say XBL sucks cause you have to pay for it. T_T its 26cents a day, you must be poor. that turns out to little over 1 cent a hour. cheaper then a phone call. about 1/25 of a text yet people still do use them. so stop trying to justify crap no one cares that you hate microsoft, i for one am tired of all you trolls, you sony fanboys try to act all nobal and then you come out and say this, and then when its comes back to bite you in the ass, you spin everyword you say. i guess that term crazy x-gf should apply for sony and its fanboys.
-nai-

[Cajun Chicken]

No.
Because I can buy a game for that price for the sub of Live and most the games on my 360 to take online play the same on PSN.
If I went secondhand, heck, I could buy two games varied priced secondhand games for that price.
Besides where else do you have charged online games except don't bring up the whole MMO arguement, because thats a constant developing service and you are essentially paying to keep the game online AND keep the game being built up so you can continue playing it.

As an owner of a XBOX and 360 I saw first party developers with a good history closed down by their parent company for what appeared to be no apparent reason (keeping the companies established IPs) and then you had XBL which the fee was potentially enough to keep them open, so where was the/is the XBL money going? Certainly not the devs.

[NaiNaiNai]

yes just like XBL you are paying to keep that network open. PSN can shutdown your server at anytime. MGS3 online. Toca 3, monster hunter, all shutdown. why they are free online. networks get shutdown for when its free. tell me what games on the xbox have been shutdown. even xbox 1 games are still online, why we pay for ours, ours keeps evovling. PSN evolved they took some away because they couldn't afford it. Free does not mean better. tell me how are you going to spin this. since i just gave facts. you are probably going to say. but but but free.
-nai-

[Cajun Chicken]

How do YOU know that PSN WILL close down servers for PSN?

They probably won't due to using the same structure for PS4 ala XBL and the old PS2 online service wasn't even worldwide, due to online gaming not being 'that big of a deal' and MS did shut down servers on XBOX only to reopen them on 360 to my knowledge and some of those which aren't BC either patched or XBOX Originals are still closed.

Stop ignoring the fact many a server on PC is still open and playable, despite being a number of years and XBL is charging you for hosting games roughly the price of a retail game. I refused to pay to play online then on the XBOX and I will continue refuse to pay to play online NOW.
Keep on believing in the money is going into 'evolving' XBL, you got avatars (which are on silver anyway), photosharing, a gameshow?!? viewing a service you need to be subscribed to on a PC anyway to watch movies ADDED ONTO the XBL Gold charge if you want to play online and a party system to tag along with your mates in games, which is the best thing newly introduced.

Back on subject.
Anyway, this is about DLC. MS need less annoying DLC offers making developers hypocrites to a majority of their audience and more actual funded FIRST PARTY or published projects and new IPs.
Due to the focus on third party going multiplat, DLC is left if MS can't be bothered spending credit and over-watching games, its the HARSH TRUTH because so far. 2 already annunced exclusive games are getting bought on the 360 this year, over the total of about 5 ALREADY ANNOUNCED games for PS3, and some that take the advantage of the free online features of PSN. At the end of this year, PS3 will have a bigger library due to a combo of multiplats and those STILL EXISTING first party.
Where do you think MS will suddenly get more brand new exclusive IPs from reknowned developers since most of them have already signed up their next games to multiplat and third party devs?
Alan Wake is good step. But is there more?...who is left? Who that isn't inhouse wants to risk MS owning the future of their IP and only having a share of the console playing public? Who?

Feel free to prove me wrong later this year WHEN I'm wrong.

[NaiNaiNai]

yep servers on PC sure are free. you have people online who host those servers they pay for them 50 - 200+$ a month (pending on server size and transfer rate in that month.), so in the end PC is more expensive, or you can just buy a Sever pc for about 800$. >.> see where i get you. you try and bash the 360 for charging 8 bucks a month of 50$ a year. you can't pick and choose, cover it all. with what your saying is, that every country but the US are full of fools, because they pay taxes but are not allowed freedom of speech.

BTW did you know the 360 has about 30 exlcusives this year. yea. and the ps3 has about 18. so tell me again, how is the ps3 library goning to be bigger. oh wait i forgot. ps2 games count for the SDF.
-nai-

[Cajun Chicken]

Oh, I see, spin, there. You took my 'PC gaming comparison' and attached it to the PUBLIC servers, instead of the actual, Gamespy/Valve/Publisher specific servers which are still globally open in the majority of the cases paid by advertising or other methods EXCLUDING the public giving out cost...

Does that divert the fact that most the online play enabled games are for free on PSN, and that by buying the PS3 I have ALREADY paid the equivelent of 3 years XBL Yearly subscriptions due to the cost of my console right from the box and never need to worry about my 'online gaming credit' ever again for the remainder of the lifecycle and got more for hardware and the standard of it, the equivelent of a play and charge kit for free, the ability to change my HDD with a cheap HDD if I have started to fill it and a fairly physical media device included the overall price of the system?

Hate to be rambling on and essentially derailling this thread's subject but;
'Got what I paid for.

Instruct me on these 30 exclusive 360 games, I bet you half of them are averagely developed PC ports from lazy and unheard of devs like the case was at the tragic end of the XBOX's lifecycle.
The quality multiplat titles will make the overall PS3's library bigger by the end of this year couple with the great inhouse devs (still open!) making exclusives. I didn't say PS3 library bigger than the 360, I said, bigger than the 360, THIS YEAR.

[NaiNaiNai]

yea so did i a gaming machine, you paid for a home media entertainment system. my laptop will cost about the same, and i can do more with it. so whats your point. hmmm. mine was built for games, your was built for movies and games that only sony can make.

*edit*
yes finding good games is hard this gen, this gen on both systems has been rather disapointing compared to last gen with Ps2 and Xbox great games.
-nai-

[Cajun Chicken]

Yep and I like it that way. Coincidence; my 360 was built for games too, just the fact of finding ones I like.

[Evil Gamer]

No need to comment...'ASSASSYN' 360 and 'Xbox360achievements' both hit it right on the freakin' head! Bubbles..for the posts and the names..

[ultimolu]

I've never cared for DLC but I agree with this article. It brought up some good points.

[Unicron]

The DLC craze should not be blamed on any one company. Sadly, while DLC is great in theory, only a very few companies get it right I feel. Criterion, with their amazing support of Burnout, followed by paid DLC after proving they will support their title, is a shining example of what is right. Rock Band is straddling the edge. I feel the songs are overpriced, but great to have. Tales of Vesperia and Dead Space are proof of what is wrong with this system, paying to unlock things that are on the disc, or add bonus "skins" for $3.99 a pop is pure BS.

And as I said before, I find console exclusive DLC for a multiplatform title to be the ultimate b1tch slap to the fans of the games. That trend needs to end NOW.

[Boty]

Microsoft really does have a great plan.

1.)They invest in DLC.

2.) Hardrives sold separately = more money for Microsoft.

3.) After Hardrives are bought, people buy DLC(GAMES).

4.) Hardrives get filled up == Get bigger Microsoft certified hardrive.

Microsoft is brilliant!

[StayHigh]

yeah they got you by the balls..Also saying everybody buys DLC is just a complete joke..I know people who don't even know about GTA DLC..

[Boty]

I IMO would rather have a physical formate rather the DLC.

Way back in the day Microsoft wanted to control the internet. They would call it The Microsoft network. Everyone could use it but with price.

Microsoft is in it to win it.
MS = More money , not Microsoft.

[StayHigh]

Honestly i think DLC is a waste of money ..Microsoft wasting 50 million dollars on GTA DLC when they can use that money to make a new game. Microsoft have no good exclusive games coming out this year so expect them to have exclusive DLC for third party games..

[ultimolu]

It is. What I've been noticing these days is the fact that Microsoft is trying everything in their power to punish those who bought a PS3. It's like they're saying 'You bought a PS3? Now you have to buy a 360 for our DLC'.

Of course, they're not the only ones doing the whole DLC thing but they've been doing it quite often.

[Evil Gamer]

Alot of people have this theory..but the money helped keep the 360 alive...had that deal not gone down..droves of people would have gone to the PS3 on instinct alone when that game dropped..50 Million..it was a split down the middle..the promise of DLC helped dramatically

[Sez]

thats the point of their arguement. because MS spent 50 million on the content is the reason why the 360 version sold better than the ps3 version and their upset. StayHigh feels that DLC is a waste of money. then why are you complaining about what MS spent on it. it goes back to what i said before. you must be upset because it's exclusive to the 360 and not the ps3. other than that you comment fails.

it's not a problem when sony offers DLC for LBP with a MGS4,SF,ect pack to download. because you love playing it. yet your complaining about the same thing MS is doing. when there are other companys doing the same. stop being a hypocrite. if you don't buy DLC why are you here complaining is my question. when you don't even own a 360.

@ultimolu

your a sad excuse. "the situation with LBP was a bit different because LBP is exclusively on the PS3" yet you say DLC needs to stop. being a hypocrite must be your stongest attribute.isn't it. because you saying that DLC is OK for a game like LBP,warhark,ect. but for MS. they are abusing it. hum.. i think you need to stop.

your whole arguement fail at that very point.this is just a witch hunt to bash MS for what they are doing. but it's ok for other companies. i guess when PC's games was doing it. it was ok, when sony does it. it's ok. but because MS does it it's not. they are greedy. yet forget that you have a choice not to buy it. just like you made your choice not to buy a 360 and enjoy all games coming out for both system. and thats where we are diffrent because i own both and buy games for both. so regardless how i feel about sony as a company just as you feel about MS as a company. i still buy games for the system. can you say the same. no you can't

[ultimolu]

It needs to stop period. That's the point of the article. But wouldn't you say that Microsoft has been abusing the DLC a little too much?

And the situation with LBP was a bit different because LBP is exclusively on the PS3. I don't see why you felt the need to drag it into the discussion.

[thenickel]

If you can't afford it then simply don't buy it. There's nothing worst then seeing people complain over things they don't need anyway. The only thing that's free on this earth is air, and until they start charging for that people just need to shut it.

[JD_Shadow]

They said that they release DLC like, a week after the game is released, for content that clearly could've been added to the disc for the game's release.

On a personal note, I thought this article should've also focused on the whole "exclusive DLC" thing, which MS has done all too much right now. Having something exclusive is one thing, but locking everyone that doesn't have a 360 or bought the PS3 version out of anything is something else altogether. The Fallout 3 controversy has opened up an full can of worms on this issue.

[00]

they actually do charge for air(for putting in vehicle tires)

[Unicron]

The problem is games are often being stripped of components that should be included already. I mean, someone tell me why I should need to buy a Time Attack Mode 3 days after the game hits?

As I said, DLC is a great theory, but all too often many companies abuse it.

[NewZealander]

showing that if you want content for your game, xbox live is the place to get it, is just good marketing for live, live is a product and it offers more then the compitition full stop.

i mean live has all the best DLC, and the best arcade games money can buy, banjo kazooie, banjo tooie, the maw and soul calibur are just a few of the exclusive arcade games.

i dont care what the content is, but i know if i want content XBL has it.

[brycespitler]

psn also has awesome exclusive content like superstardust hd, pixeljunk monsters and eden, everyay shooter, siren:blood curse, flow, fat princess, savage moon, linger in the shadows, crash commando, etc

psn also gets exclusive dlc for games too such as FREE mirrors edge dlc

but i do hope u get more content overall for the fact your paying $50 a year to be able to spend more money on games to buy in their store.

xbl is great but u dont need to be a fanboy

[NewZealander]

bro im not being a fanboy, i gave my opinion, just as you did.

i dont care about fanboy bs, i just said how i feel about DLC in general, and yes XBL does have more exclusive content, thats just a fact.

also i dont pay for gold, im not a big online gamer, but i have no problem paying for MS points, getting to replay some classis like banjo and soul calibur is fully worth it.

i havnt been on PSN in over a year so in all honesty i cant say whats on there now, but back then newzealand was verry much behind with what we had access to on PSN, last time i checked it was just lemmings and a GTA demo...im sure its better now but XBL is where its at, im not a hater im just telling it like it is.

[brycespitler]

then. im just used to xbox ppl bashing psn when its not a bad service, but i see where your coming from.
from what i hear, a year ago it wasnt the best. but it has improved now.
check it out sometime. i lve in the usa so idk if that means i get more content or anything.
but yeah live does have more to it

[X]

Downloadable content is a double edge sword. It allows the lifespan of a game to be extended while at the same time can also be what kills it. A lot of the DLC I notice is stuff I'm used to having in my games via unlockables.

To think of an example, I'll use resident evil. You play through resident evil 3, beat the game, and that's it, right? Nope. There is a mercenaries mode that lets you go through the streets to see if you can escape the city. So how do you get it? You beat the game and it's a bonus.

Now I loved playing the mercenaries mode. It was a lot of fun and I think I played that just as much if not more than the actual story. So when RE 4 came and it had mercenaries also, it made the game for me a very worthwhile purchase. I played that game for months because it was so much fun. So naturally, RE5 would be a game I look forward to because of the game itself and the very high possibility of another mercenaries.

Now here's the question I have to ask. Will I be paying a premium to get what was once an all in one package? I really hope that they keep it a unlockable since I know it will keep me playing the game longer and will keep me interested as well as having me look forwad to a sequel that would have the same mode. As much as I like the mode, I wouldn't buy a experience that I know I used to get for free. Hence a game that I would play for weeks maybe even months and build my interest for another game, could be reduced to a week or two and will make me pass on a future installment since the previous game was not worth the investment.

[brycespitler]

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[KingItachi]

Not everyone wants live, a friend of mine is dead set about not getting live and yes he can more than afford it, he does not see the point of paying to play online.

[cmrbe]

All this DLC bullcrap needs to stop and i blame MS for not developing enough of their own exclusive games for them relying on DLC.

[redsnake]

i dont buy that because one complains about xbl price and dlc that they are poor. im not wealthy but the price of dlc wont effect me at all. the fact is i wont pay for something i feel i shouldnt have to. u say that xbl is about a cent an hour so what its cheap it should be free. its like hoe grocery stores are tryna charge me 5cents for a each bag i know thats not alot of money and i can afford it buts its ridiculous to charge for bags therefore i no longer go to those grocery store's.

[Lord Vader]

I like DLC. If i like the game enough i buy it, if not, who cares...

BUT, i agree with Unicron that some developers abuse the system = Soul Caliber....

But some don't & really deliver = Bioware's Mass Effect dlc tied in a species from the novel (Batarians), & is like 2 1/2 hours for 400 pts ($5). Very reasonable to me since it's my favorite game this Gen.

I can't wait for the GTA dlc either... i know, i know, u N4G kids dont like the game, but i enjoyed it myself & it's the best sandbox game on the market. I think the new character is cool.

[unicorndeathcamp]

1.99 for a pair of pants huh?

good try though

[gametheory]

I mean it makes sense. Had 360 had blu-ray, developers would have added more content to multiplatform games and we all know Microsoft doesn't like giving content away for free.

Then again, I would love it if uncharted, heavenly sword, R:FoM, R2, and warhawk had additional single player campaign DLC to make the game even larger. Just like it happened with Ratchet.

This isn't that bad, the only bad thing is that games are too small on DVD9 but other than that DLC is awesome.

[nombon]

every thing is about money and greed, but it all depends on whether YOU will spend your money on whatever product a compaany releases. If you dont buy a certain dlc pack someone else will.plus the more money these developers have, gives them more incentive to make better games with innovative techniques and ideas. You cant stop the power of the dollar and greed. I realize how annoying it is when DLC is released not even a month after the game is released (GOW 2) but it all depends on whether if you will buy it. I personlly havent bought any DLC since the halo map packs. But right now im getting gta lost and the damned, ands thats my choice and im spending my money so i dont really care if i am making Microsoft money or buying into this whole DLC sh!t, i just play games for the enjoyment and i think most dlc packks extend that experience (not the cosmetic ones that add costumes or 1-2 new weapons, those plain ol' suck)

[djtek184]

M$ physically can not fit all contents into a DVD so they had to compensated with DLC. Nice way to cover up. Typical of M$.

[Droid Control]

It kept Oblivion going for months after i finished the real game...

And i hape for the same to happen with fallout 3, tomb raider Underworld, and GTA.

Seems to me, sony fanboys are just jealous about not getting the good stuff...

You guys should buy BOTH consoles like me. And get the multiformat titles on Xbox 360. Most of the time the game looks and plays better on the 360, and the 360 version ALWAYS has the sweet sweet DLC afterward...

[djtek184]

I see M$ has brain washed u too.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Kinda like selling clothing in Home, get used to dlc.

[Droid Control]

Yeah, thats right, i can control my own pen!s, thats why i'm gonna spray my load all over your face You stupid B!tch!

What i stated was FACT.

I fyou love a game, and its mutli-format, that the obvious choice is XBOX 360. Its the only place you can get DLC.

How can you argue with that?
How can you NOT want to extend the life of your favourite games?

I love the fact M$ created Xbox LIVE, DLC, etc...
They've done a lot of good things for the industry.

I'm not saying they have no faults as a company, they do, but i'm saying they do more good than halm.

And don't think i hate sony either, i don't, i love my ps3, i just hate the old gen pad! lol

I just find myself playing 95% of the time on M$ hardware.

[StoneySweatLeafs]

I don't see the point in making people pay for content that is most likely ready at the time of the games release. It really is greedy. At the same time though it is not Microsoft's fault. It is just business. After all the bottom line is to make money. It's just sad the consumer gets the shaft. I won't be buying any DLC that is released within a month or two of release. Just out of principle.

[Ethreon]

"How would you like to crash today? And do you prefer some RROD with that?"

[dcbronco]

and forced me to buy DLC at gunpoint. Oh', sorry. I had dosed off and had a crazy dream. In real life I can just not buy the DLC. I do it all the time if I believe it's not worth it.