Are PS3 Exclusives Enough to Save the System?

With games like Killzone 2, Uncharted 2 and the next God of War coming out this year, will they offer enough "value" to get more people buying a PS3?

[daftshadow]

I wouldn't think so. Look at last year exclusives. Didn't do much for PS3 sales.

[cellypower]

I disagree! Its more to do with the price then anything else.

[Mr_Bun]

According to Metacritic, the PS3 had more "quality" exclusives than the competitors, but still didn't outsell...Mainly due to the price point.

On paper, this year seems to be in favor of the PS3 by a wide margin in terms of exclusives, so that can't hurt. If Sony drops the price (as rumored) it should gain a lot of ground...at least in comparison to the 360

[thor]

Then you're agreeing with him! Come on guys, he said he DOESN'T THINK that games ALONE are enough to boost PS3 sales, and uses last year's lineup of AMAZING GAMES that didn't boost PS3 sales over 2007 as an example. You're all agreeing! And I agree!

[andrugrif]

Agreed. With the struggling economy and larger US install bases of 360s and Wiis, a price drop is desperately needed to draw those in interested in these exclusives.

[grkblood13]

THE PS3 DOES NOT NEED SAVING!!!!

[lociefer]

lol and here i was starting to worry these ps3-needs-saving articles were stopped , lol silly me /end sarcasm

[thor]

May I ask why you are all disagreeing with daftshadow?

If you disagree with him, you either think:
The PS3 didn't have good exclusives last year (this is what he is implying)
OR
The PS3's sales will get a boost through exclusives alone, and, by your comments, you don't believe this.

[docsavage]

Ah, I see N4G requires the linked articles title to be used no matter what now. The original title to this one was not a flame-baiter. It was "Can exclusives drive PS3 sales"

[Sarcasm]

Games is only part of the factor in the PS3's success. Right now, everyone including PS3 fans, 360 fans, and the media could all agree in one vote, the PS3 is still too expensive.

Given the circumstances of our dwindling worldwide economy, people are afraid of spending their hard earned dollars more than ever.

So if Sony wants to "save" the PS3, then a price drop is NEEDED.

[InMyOpinion]

"Games is only part of the factor in the PS3's success."

What success? Oh, I get it, you were being sarcastic. Clever ;)

[Danja]

The PS3 doesn't need to be saved ....wats wrong with these ppl who keep writing these articles..?

The price factor is whats the real problem right now for the PS3 , once the price starts to go down the sales will go even higher than they are..

The PS3 already have the games plus will be getting more so obviously it doesn't need games for it to be saved this isn't 2007 anymore...

[majorsuave]

What will make me buy a PS3 is the day it hits the 199-229$ price point. Probably by june 2010 I guess. Until then I am fine.

I don't really give a **** about exclusives. Especially when they are shooters or JRPG.

I don't own a PS3 yet and all the MGS and KZ in the world won't make me move. LBP might, but then again, I don't have a hefty appetite for platformers.

What I am looking forward to in PS3?
PS1/PS2 compatibility, Blu ray and, maybe, GT5

[Danja]

not attacking ur comment....but Exclusives is normally what distinguish each consoles so they matter alot this gen actually.

the PS3 actually doesn't have that many exclusive FPS other than ..

RFOM
KZ2
Haze

LBP is a great game if you enjoy Mario you will also enjoy this game...plus more...

Heavenly Sword
Uncharted
Folklore
MGS4
Motorstorm 2
Warhawk
Ratchet & Clank
NGS

plus many more there's alot of variety in the PS3 library I just think buying a system based soley for one game is just stupid...might as well get the most bang for ur buck

[Blademask]

Fable -over 1 million
Gears - over 3/4 million(corrects my mafs!)
Lips - Under 150k
Banjo - Under 150k

LBP - over 1 million
M2 - over 1 million
R2 - over 1 million
MGS4 - over 3/4 million(correct my mafs)
GT5p - over 3/4 million(correct my mafs)

Its an illusion that they need to make themselves feel like they aren't going to be the next dreamcast. Guys, the 360 isn't going anywhere. The PS3 needs a pricecut to be competitively priced w & out sell the 360. The 360 sells more software considering its install base. The 360 and the more expensive PS3 are quite competitive, and neck to neck year to year, the PS3 out paced the 360. If the PS3 came out the same time the 360 came out, no one would be pretending either is in dire straights. But it didn't, came out a year later. And now we are here.

PS3 has 17 million people buying it for Games/Bluray. More than the 360 at this time in its life, and minus a recession. Someone please explain to me how the PS3 needs anything other than a Price drop. Which is obvious, since.. its the MOST EXPENSIVE CONSOLE OUT.

Does no 360 fan realize how retarded they sound when they say "HAHAHAH YES! WE ARE SELLING MORE BECAUSE WE COST LESS & THE COMPETITION ISN"T EVEN COMPETING WITH OUR PRICE!!!!! HAHAHAH!"(drinks mai-tai)"*burp* HAHAHA"

Wouldn't it m ake more since to celebrate(if thats what you want to do), when the PS3 is around 299? and still getting outsold? I mean even then, its not as cheap.. but it would definitely make things more interesting.

[Lifendz]

A 38% increase in sales? PS3 is just fine. These articles fail before you even read them. Nothing need save Sony. It's a huge company.

[thor]

The general consensus is that -
THE PS3 NEEDS MORE THAN JUST GAMES TO BOOST SALES!!!!!

THAT IS WHAT THE ORIGINAL POSTER MEANT!!!!

"Look at last year's exclusives. Didn't do much for PS3's sales."

He is IMPLYING that the GREAT EXCLUSIVES, WHICH HE AGREES ARE GREAT, DIDN'T BOOST SALES, and the PS3 NEEDS SOMETHING ELSE!!!! THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE ALL SAYING!!! AND I AGREE!!!

So I ask again, WHY ARE YOU DISAGREEING?!??!?!?! WHY ARE YOU DISAGREEING WITH ME AND THE OP?!?!?!?

[MasFlowKiller]

I guess games are not important to gamers or gaming consoles but DLC is right?

[gambare]

you mean that being closer to the 360 sales (that's cheaper than the wii) even if the system doesn't had a price cut in months and even with that it has the most strong user base and the best exclusive title list isn't successful? wow.....

[Montrealien]

lol, 38 people and counting dissagree with the first comment, think they can get it to 200? even then, think those people will realize how disconected and not important they are in the gaming market?

/on topic

I really hope games like Kill zone 2 and GT5 sell many PS3s, the tighter the competition is between all major console makers, the better games us gamers get on all of them. What a great time to be a gamer.

[Le Idiotce]

Apparently not, since Microsoft is already cutting.

[Montrealien]

I guess the Le Idiotct account is one of the accounts that is not banned in the gamerzone atm am I right? must be hard to manage so many accounts sometimes. so sad...

and when are you un-blocking me? cant handle arguying with me right? to hard?

[PirateThom]

I'm agreeing with daftshadow.

The PS3 had great games last year, but unlike us internet geeks who look at games first, the Average Joe looks at price and, unless there's something really special, it's not going to push them either way.

[PataponKnight]

Lol Thor just give it up, I agree with you 100 percent, but the people in this thread are just being thickheaded today.

[thor]

*sigh* yeah I really shouldn't get so mad.

I feel sorry for poor daftshadow, though.

People never did reading comprehension it seems.

[blind-reaper]

just try to imagine WITHOUT the cool exclusives. The cool exclusives and blu-ray win over hd-dvd helped keeping at least constant PS3 sales during 08

[monkpunk1]

Another poop article, and why should i buy a 360? theres funk all on that system for 2009....and its back catalogue is merely erm halo and gears....oh and more expense in the long run...

[pain777pas]

In a word....Yes. A price drop wouldn't hurt either but their on pace to dominate again.

[docsavage]

True but this year's crop includes some popular sequels that haven't been updated since PS2 days. It should help a bit.

[locos85]

Save the PS3 from what??? Flamewars?

[MmaFanQc]

saving the ps3 from bs "article" that always try to put a "doubt" into ps3 owner heads.

the console is enought to "save" itself....just get over it haters!

[yoghurt]

Yes, I believe it will.
Killzone 2 is the first of what I would think will be some amazing games that really start to use the PS3 power, yes we have had uncharted etc, but Killzone 2 really raises that bar of all round quality. Then factor in God of War 3, Uncharted 2, GT5 etc if they all end up with such a high level finish then yes, people will start to see the difference and think "hang on, I want a machine that can play that"

[docsavage]

I agree and if they toss in a price break it will help that much more. Amazon had PS3 for $350 yesterday, I wonder if they sold a bunch more than usual and if that isn't the first sign of the price thawing a bit.

[I_LOVE_MYSELF]

In all honesty... bullcrap aside... I think MS have established themselves as the gamers console of this gen... Its just the way it is...

[Anon1974]

How to you reconcile that fact? Now, not even considering the Wii here, if the 360 has established itself as the "gamers" console, why have gamers been latching on to the PS3 far faster than the rate the 360 sold at? The 360 has been by far the slowest selling console of this gen. The 360 sold 13 million in two years, the PS3 17 million and the Wii 35 million.

If the 360 is the "gamers" console, why are the other consoles selling so much faster than the 360 did?

Edit: A disagree? Did I miss something? All my facts are there, you can't dispute those numbers, was this not a fair question I posed?

[NipGrip]

You said "bullcrap aside"?

[jetlian]

most gamers don't consider the wii a game system!! my aunt who's 50+ has one. my mom and another aunt want 1. l want 1 so i can play RE4 and a few japanese anime games.

point is as of right now 360 is he gamers system. the 360 has increased its lead over ps3 from 5.5 million to 8!!! Now if your basing on a 2 years point then ps3 would be the one. overall since both have been on the market its 360

[Real gamer 4 life]

they just need to make the console more affordable. they just need a little price cut.

[DutyCalls]

Sony is struggling with losses, well the whole world is, and now that the PS3 has a very good line up it makes more sense for them to keep it at $400. by the way, i think $400 is a good fair price for what you get in a PS3. Also Sony wants to make profits, just look at the PS2, there is no reason why the price is not down to $100.

Business as usual guys, i see MS practices a different style, but the rest want to make plenty of profits,

[lociefer]

lmfao the only thing that needs saving is YOUR house if you bought a 360 !!!!

[dukadork2]

- pack of 4 wet towels (RROD retardant): $29.99
your 360 is a great heater but don't let it make you homeless!

- pack of 5 tears buckets: $19.99
get ready for all those PS3 exclusives releases: you know you're gonna cry but don't waste those precious tears!

- pack of 3 dildos: $19.99
for those long days and nights waiting for UPS or with absolutely no game to play...

- personal lubricant 50oz: $9.99
if makes the whole xbollox experience so much smoother!

[Obama]

Xbots tears: priceless. There's something money can't buy.

[mac4u10]

HERE WE GO AGAIN ANOTHER ARTICAL!!!

[Stryfeno2]

I honestly don't think so....I have both consoles and there are some great exclusive on the PS3 but MS will always have the upper hand this gen.

Why? Because of marketing. MS has done a tremendous job on marketing the 360. Even with RROD, the 360 is a machine that is a must have. The only way I see Sony getting the upper hand is to come out with their own gimmick like the Wii's Wiimote and 360s XBL.

[docsavage]

Interesting thoughts. I think SONY might believe "Home" is that gimmick and if that's the case...ouch.

[lokiroo420]

Patchstation wake up your late for school, grab your clean diaper and gtfo.

[twoface]

Sony tried the YLOD gimmick, but I guess they did not do enough marketing on that.

[BMS84]

I agree WTF are some articles .. post crap.. save..the PS3 bla bla bla..

The PS3 doesn't need to be saved.

[ultimolu]

For the last f*cking time, all the PS3 needs is a pricecut. It solely depends on whether Sony can deliver that pricecut or not.

[Dannagar]

Playstation 3 will get a price cut. Sony is waiting for their fiscal year to end. However, I think we'll only see a $50 price cut. By the end of April, we'll see a $349 Playstation 3.

Microsoft will answer in September of 2009 with a $20 price cut on 360 products.

[ultimolu]

You could be right about that. I think the last time Sony did pricecuts, they waited at the end of the fiscal year.

[karlostomy]

My favourite topic!

At last count the ps3 is still losing $50 PER CONSOLE!
http://n4g.com/ps3/NewsCom-...

Realistically, Sony needs to return the ps3 to breakeven price before it can do any pricecuts. It will do this by cost reducing its hardware.

In all likelihood, when the ps3 eventually DOES break even, a price cut will once again make it non-profitable.

Hence, I am guessing the pricecut is *some* time off.

There is logic in that, no?

[ultimolu]

Yes karl, bring those figures up.

Because Sony will never, eeeeeever make back up that money. At least Sony lost that money through making a console that's built to last instead of a short-term console.

Please, stay out of adult conversations. You still have some growing up to do.

And for heaven's sake, quit stalking me!

[karlostomy]

look at your multiple accounts at work, juuken.
You deserve a medal for persistence!

Fancy telling me to grow up when you have tracked yourself with 50 multiple accounts?

If you don't like the facts and numbers i present then just press ignore, hun.

At least that's what a grown up would do, right?

[Socomer 1979]

Oh yes!

I live for ps3 exclusives. I think the system could live on just exclusives and not need any 3rd party multiplats at all.

multiplats are a bonus!

Hey guys, you have to get motorstrom pacific rift. That game will make you see the light too. First person view is incredible and will turn you into a sony exclusive fanboy. I promise.

oh & altplusf4.com ???
whats gonna save your lame A$$ pathetic website this year?
good luck holding on to it okay. im flushing you down the toilet.

[dredgewalker]

Well since im going to have a blast with the exclusives and multiplats this year...THE ONLY THING THAT NEEDS SAVING IS MY WALLET!!

[MmaFanQc]

the console is enough to save itself.....just get over it haters!

[CadDad]

I am a gamer, so I jumped on the PS3 ship early. My college buddies who are all gamers, but not quite as into it as me are all slowly starting to get on board and put down their PS2's. As they ship me emails and such telling me they got the PS3 I ask them what made them jump on board. The answer I hear most is that the games they want to play are adding up to a point that it was worth coming over. Most consumers don't buy game systems for one game.

I think with HDTV adoption increasing and consumers who aren't the typical N4G crowd style of gamer looking at options you'll see a larger install base come aboard. In my limited list of friends and knowing a thing or two about how the market and new technology is adopted, the PS3 only has upside. (This is not comparing to the 360 or it's upside, just looking at the PS3 by itself)

Even if the PS3 finishes in 3rd place, it will never need "saving" since I feel 3rd place will have a significant size (>50m). Gone are the days of 20m install base systems. The market is too large for that now.

-CadDad

[user3915800]

sony sucks and so its the new line up.

[Yomiro]

This is pure propagandas just to put fear in the mind of the consumer that if they buy a ps3 is going to be a bad investment since is going to be doom like the R.I.P HD DVD players. I can't believe people still falls for these articles.

[docsavage]

Actually, I think it would be more like the exclusives do make it worth it. I'd love to scare people into buying it actually!

It was an unfortunate title choice that I would change if I could (I tried).

[farhsa2008]

what the question should be is "are 360 exclusives enough to save the system?"

By the looks of it NO!

[Yomiro]

by the way the next gen stars 2/27/09

[palance]

next gen starts when I turn 18, epic..

[thehitman]

The ps3 doesnt need saving but it does need a sale boost games will not I believe increase its sales by that much. Its not like people are waiting for a good reason to buy it anymore the reasons are there just maybe their wallets are not there with them. Or the parents to many gamers look at ps3 initial 100-150 dollar difference and say hey this is cheaper Ill get this one.

[Roper316]

PS3 averages 10 million units sold per year to MS's 9.3 million units a year, so I still don't understand why the PS3 needs to be saved? Even most publishers & devs say they make more money off of PS sales then the other consoles, so again why does it need to be saved?

[DJ]

As they have a lot of influence on online news/media sites. But this is typically in relation to fostering positive reviews of Microsoft products; it has little to do with creating inflammatory works that attack competing brands. The real issue is that because website profits are directly linked to the number of visitors, websites typically create inflammatory works in order to generate hits. You don’t see this in print media since print media costs a lot of money and is dependant on conducting actual journalism that are up to professional standards.

Online Journalism is different. Anyone and everyone can do it, and professionalism is almost nowhere to be found. Anti-PS3 articles have historically been the most popular over the past three years, mainly because the number of Playstation Product owners far exceeds the number of Xbox Product owners. If you want to generate hits, just piss off the majority. For some reason, Nintendo Product owners don’t speak up, but that’s probably because most of them are children and don’t waste their time on blog sites such as N4G.

[Dannagar]

Well, the system doesn't need to be saved. Are the PS3 exclusives enough to change it's position in the market? Not at this point, only a price drop will change it's position. However, the exclusives are enough to please those that already own a PS3.

[bassturd]

needs a price drop!!!! Sadly it seems a lot of people are content with having one system (which a lot have a 360) so they don't feel the need to buy the other system, especially if it is so expensive. Having had both since launch, I feel the PS3 is all around a better system. But whatever. The 2009 lineup is the strongest by far out of the 3 consoles.

[Darkfocus]

the ps3 doesn't need saving its not in danger of anything.
the article title should be are ps3 exclusives enough to put the system in first place

[docsavage]

Good title, where were you an hour ago? Can't. Change. Bad. Title. I. Suck.

[DJ]

By a small amount. Not incredible progress, but it's definitely doing well. None of the consoles need saving right now. The only time I would show concern is if a console dropped to 5 million units sold in one year. Right now Wii is averaging 20 million, PS3 is averaging 20 million, and 360 is averaging 9.3 million.

[Anon1974]

:)

[DJ]

Yes, 10 million. *facepalm*

[Sir Ken_Kutaragi]

What is going to Save the xBox 360 this year???

[rawd]

Who's going to saveeeeeeeee the PS3

[user858621]

if microsoft had the balls to release their console same time as every1 else then the article would hav said "360" so wat if their ahead by 8 million, just remember they were out a year early

[dirtrider]

you mean how sony "had the balls to release ps2 a year earlier last-gen" GTFO. sony has failed this gen. if 360 and ps3 were to have released at the same time, 360 would still be on top. 400 launch price 360, better launch line-up still goes to 360. ps3rd- 600 and only one game at launch "worth" having resistance. within its first year of existence- 360 wins again- by far!. so stfu about if they'd launched at the same time BS. i guess gamecube and xbox would've beaten the ps2 had they all released at the same time too huh? see how stupid you sound!! another time i have to say STUPID FUCIN PS3 FANBOYS!

[ForROME]

No, simply because this war is about Price right now, in a year that could change however not with this economy and not now, its about price.

People can talk all they want about what the PS3 has to offer, parents arent educated on that casual gamers arent eitheir, they want the cheapest item that gives them the same or close to exp as the more exp one.

SONY needs to get to 299 in a hurry.....It will change the tide

[dredgewalker]

HOW TO GET MORE HITS:

1. Write an article with the name of a console and douse it with gasoline.
2. Get it approved.
3. Sit down and enjoy the fanboys arguing bringing up the comment count.

[TheDuke77]

They need to start going after some of this exclusive DLC. I would love to be able to play Fallout 3 DLC. For that matter it wouldnt hurt if they made some new exclusive WRPG's. at the moment they have none.

[dredgewalker]

Can we just get back to gaming cause i seriously do not think that any of the consoles are in trouble and this kind of article doesnt need to be written. Its just fanning the flames and creating more misunderstandings. I will always defend the value of owning a PS3 but i wont resort to throwing mud at the 360's direction.

[edhe]

If the ps3 didn't have it's exclusives [and fine ones they are] it'd be dead.

There will eventually be a critical mass that should tempt more people, when a price cut comes to both the console and the blueray discs.

[maverick1191]

i think you should change the bit where you put ps3 to xbox as this year sony has many many exclusives coming out and are all looking promising and clearly beats xbox's lineup xbox only really have halo wars and alan wake (even though its on PC) thats pritty much it

[twoface]

Why does the ps3 need saving every year?

[cliffbo]

it doesn't need saving

[AuToFiRE]

OMFG enough of these stupid stories, there is no way the ps3 is going anywhere anytime soon

[cmrbe]

The PS3 doesn't need saving.

Second. Varied exclusive in the end is what really wins console war.

Lets look at what happened last gen.

Price.
xbox and GC were cheaper and yet it didn't win the console race.

Power.
Both GC and xbox were said to be more powerful than PS2 yet it didn't factor in the end of the console war.

Longevity
I think i don't need to explain this

Exclusive.
PS2 by far had the most varied exclusive which catered to broader market compare to what the GC and xbox offered and this ladies and gents was the main reason why PS2 won.

[Lombax]

You summed it up nicely.

[Hallucinate]

well considering how all xbots go we have better games...then yes it is

[Enigma_2099]

... it just never stops with you, does it?

[poeo]

if all the great highly-rated games now out, and coming this year, cant make the ps3 more succesful along with a pricecut... then i blame us gamers. it will be our fault if the PS3 doesnt succeed.

[Lombax]

Now that everyone knows the PS3 is not "doomed" we get these "how to save" articles. Its just sad really...

But yes exclusives will "SAVE" any system look at the original XboX, Halo anyone?

I didn't buy my PS3 for multiplatform games. I bought it for the exclusives. And because I know the PS3s 1st and 2nd party devs are the best in the industry.

[Hercules]

i had four ps3s (sold two, broke one, one stolen)...so sony saw $1200 from me..but i think the question is why do these articles get approved?? the ps3 is doing just great with updates, games, online services, i mean what more can you want out of the damn thing..its basically the only need to fit a entertainment along with a hdtv and a surround sound system...the ps3 does it all man

[dash--]

Ok for the last time the ps3 was outselling the xbox 360 until they drop the price and they were outselling them without exclusive games. When most of the exclusive games started coming out xbox 360 had already drop the price. By the end of the year PS3 was outsold by 800,000 systems because of the price drop. Where are all the games for the xbox 360 in 09? Hell i'm worried that i'm going to get another RROD. Xbox 360 has lost just as much money as the PS3 if not more. So why aren't there articles about saving the Xbox 360?

[mbanatech25]

more gamez coming from the dark side and more tears coming from the light side,09 the year to spend my money on gamez

[PSWii60 Fanboy]

Why are we still commenting on these articles?
Now we're just part of the problem.
I'll never understand why fanboys are so adamant on getting there point across.Ultimately, at the end of the day (or even minute), they're just another crazy comment that we read and forget about.

And the cycle continues...

[n1kki6]

My God, who the hell writes these things? First the PS3 is doing fine. Second, why gamers seem to care about the business side so mush this Gen I fail to understand. Finally, doesn't everyone on this site get sick of arguing about the same things everyday?

[Traveler]

The PS3 does not need saving. Of course price plays a significant factor and the PS3 could obviously be selling even more if it were cheaper, but it is doing just fine as it is.

It happens to be in third place right now, but then again we are only two years into its lifecycle and there are still a good 3 or 4 years left in this generation in which the PS3 could easily catch up to or surpass the Xbox 360.

But you know what, why does it have to? It has sold more consoles per year than the Xbox 360 has, so it is obviously competing quite well, even at its higher price tag. I simply don't understand why these journalists act like 3rd place is a death sentence. I mean, even if the PS3 never managed to pull out of third place, would that mean that it is doomed? Obviously not. This kind of thinking is just incredibly naive.

Price, like I said, is no doubt a very big factor in how well a console sells, but it isn't the only factor. After all, the Xbox 360 Arcade can now be had for less than a Wii, yet it has failed to sell anywhere close to as many units. cmrbe is right about games being the single largest factor in the success of a game console. Gamers go to where the games are and as time goes by this seems to be the area where the PS3 seems to be excelling more and more.

I think to any objective person the PS3 unquestionably has the best lineup of games for 2009. When you combine the best lineup of exclusive games with a price drop I think the PS3 will be selling extremely well.

[Firstkn1ghT]

Nothing on the ps3 that screams buy me. Just borrow or rent. I get more than enough gaming on my 360. Still waiting for Twisted Metal.

[deividpaulo]

just another sh*t-eater xboxfanboy...

[zainkool]

Alright article, but I'm getting upset with all these what will save the ps3 articles. The ps3 doesn't need saving. The articles should be what will make the ps3 sell more.

[xionpunk]

All that matters is I love the games I'm playing on Ps3 right now, and can't wait for what's coming next.

[jetlian]

exclusive do not sell a system. virtually all systems needed 3rd party more than anything.

if l was shopping for a system and all i was interested in was fighting games theres no reason to get a ps3 over a 360! all 2009 fighting games are hitting both.
ufc
fight night
tekken 6
street fighter
and hopfully virtua fighter 5 r

everyone assumes people are looking at ever single game when some people only play certain genre's
another 1 sports! both have the same games so why pay 200 more to play? thats 3 games your giving up

[Lombax]

"exclusive do not sell a system. virtually all systems needed 3rd party more than anything."

We all know MGS4 and Halo3 didn't move any consoles. And nobody will be picking up a PS3 for KZ2, GoW3 or GT5.
/sarcasm

"if l was shopping for a system and all i was interested in was fighting games theres no reason to get a ps3 over a 360!"

Unless you want a decent D-pad, or FREE online play.

"everyone assumes people are looking at ever single game when some people only play certain genre's another 1 sports! both have the same games so why pay 200 more to play? thats 3 games your giving up "

Well, the free online comes to mind again. But I guess you have a point If I only wanted to play Sports games I would not "need" a PS3. Who only plays sports games?