Sandfall's CEO admitted that he felt a little burned out by JRPGs and talked about the dilemma with turn-based gameplay.
One of the best games of the year is on sale, so now is the perfect time to get Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 on Steam, thanks to the Kepler Summer Sale event.
Square Enix has acknowledged the success of Clair Obscur: Expedition 33, and the company remains committed to making turn-based RPGs.
Yea, we’ll see. This shouldn’t be news to them at this point. Atlus has been having amazing success with turn-based RPGs even more so sales wise than Clair.
Hell, DQ3 did super well.
I don't think turn-based combat is what made Clair Obscur a success. The game was overall great. But, it did show that turn-based could be successfully incorporated into a great game and itself also be great along with the other aspects of the game.
TNS: Expedition 33 was the wake-up call Square Enix needed, telling it turn-based RPGs are still popular, but that shouldn't have been the case.
True, but if it does get it through their thick skulls, then that works.
Although, the Dragon Quest 1 + 2 HD remakes will be turn-based and (the worst kept secret) Final Fantasy IX remake should be turn-based I would imagine. Let's see if any newer games go turn-based too.
DQIII HD Remake was turned based and very successful. Then there was a really obscure turn based game came Balder's Gate 3. I heard it might have done well.
It won't get through to them though, despite E33's success, they still won't risk going fully turn based for their big budget projects simply because they are still in the mindset that it needs to be action combat to appeal to the mainstream audience. I hope I'm wrong but don't underestimate just how stubborn Japanese execs can be
Ya'll are hyping up Expedition 33 too much. Reminder that FF XVI sold 3 million in a week and it took Expedition 33 approximately a month to get to that (33 days to reach 3.3 million).
While it is true that Sqaure Enix has moved away from turn based games compared to how they were in the past, there is a good reason for it.
Older gamers will know this but during the ps2 era, we were flooded with turned based games from Japanese studios and this created a form of fatigue back then going into the next generation.
When Square released FF13, they received heavy criticism for making the game turned based like every other FF game and not doing enough to innovate. This is why they made FF15, FF7 Remake and FF16 have real time combat. It gave the series a fresh spin and has brought in new fans to the series.
I personally would be happy with either turned based FF or the real-time combat version we see today.
Dang wish I saw your post before I made mine because we definitely feel the same way lol
Yeah hit the nail on the head but its like ww2 games we get hundreds of them then a decade of nothing and people start missing them i think we're going to start seeing them return
Claire, dragon quest even yakuza have seen turn based return
Only need to look at their own game DQ 11 approaching 10 million to show there's a market. And that's not as big of a name as FF
Another article about Expedition 33 and Square Enix and turn-based games? This is starting to sound like propaganda.
The game didn't sell because it's a turn-based game; it sold and is enjoyed because it's a really freaking good game that released completed at a good price without gamer drama attached to it. No Mtx, no wait-until-it's-patched, minimal bloat, a self-contained story, no multiplatform BS. Just a solid original game that absolutely nails what it intended to do.
Maybe try actually listening to the fans who have supported the series for decades. This habit of ignoring your core audience just to chase people who were never interested in Final Fantasy in the first place makes no sense. And when that approach fails, doubling down on it is beyond baffling.
The battle system has never been the main reason non-FF or non-JRPG players stayed away. Gutting the series’ identity to chase a broader market doesn’t attract new players. It just alienates the loyal ones.
Keep going down this road and we’ll end up with Final Fantasy Fortnite abomination or a F2P Battle Royale game.. Oh wait…
I like both, it's very much all about execution though. Plenty of turn basedand action games I fine absolutely boring and generic. You need to nail the gameplay and mechanics. Sandfall did something amazing by combining a mix of some of the best combat systems out there and made it real engaging and entertaining for huge turn based fans and even real time.
Parry is also a big one, I think all games need parry lol.
Both are good but you need to balance these factors
Whatever is developers vision works best. Gaming industry is big enough where we can have multiple genre exist
I mean, people have only just f*cking cried about it for ages when things go real-time… who would’ve thunk giving people what they want would make them buy something
In this generation I don't mind turn base if the battle system plays like Persona 5 & Expedition 33. I also enjoyed the 16 year old turn base
battle system in FFXIII which was the Paradigm system.