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Nintendo president Shuntaro Furukawa explains that games like Mario Kart World and Donkey Kong Bananza are impossible without Switch 2.
'“[The] hardware processing performance [of Nintendo Switch 2] has become necessary for software developers to realize one of Nintendo’s most important goals: proposing new ways to play,” the president said in a translated comment.'
So I guess by that definition, Metroid Prime 4, which is cross-gen, isn't a new way to play.
While we're on the subject, open world racing games aren't remotely new either.
Metroid Prime 4 is a Switch game that runs on Switch 2 with upgrades. Same as Breath of The Wild and Tears of the Kingdom. It's not a Switch 2 exclusive.
Open world racers aren't new. But open world Kart racers are. When Nintendo speaks in these terms, they're speaking of new ways for THEIR IP's to play, not the competition. They really never acknowledge the competition.
Exactly what grievance are you trying to air?
And you're splitting hairs, It's an open world racing game, an "arcadey" subgenre of a racing game if you really want to push it. Otherwise, it's just another case of "fans of an exclusive ecosystem sees something new".
Really now, Nintendo doesn't really care whats being said here nor do they need any help standing on their own two feet.
If there's any pedantry here it's making an unnecessary distinction between open world racers and open world kart racers, the vehicle type is irrelevant from a technical standpoint.
Out of topic....
I heard a rumor that Arc System Works are working on a Switch 2 exclusive game codename "Watari". And it will use Unreal Engine 5.4 with expected release date of November 2025. Cool if its true.
"Nintendo president Shuntaro Furukawa explains that games like Mario Kart World and Donkey Kong Bananza are impossible without Switch 2."
Isn't this the most obvious comment? Of course it isn't possible on the Switch 1, it was made for the Switch 2
The particle system of DK bananza alone would never work on a switch so yeah I can see what they are saying here.
Of course these games would work on competitors consoles but they are making direct parallels to Nintendo hardware they are hardly going to come out even acknowledge the existence of another platform.
In addition this is like that generic line that every platform holder gives us before the launch of a new system
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An analysis of the Nintendo Switch 2 SoC has been conducted by YouTuber Geekerwan, offering a detailed benchmark of the console’s CPU and GPU.
The GPU in particular is very weak. It offers about 75% of the performance of the lowest Ampere-based RTX 3050M from 2020, and even compared to the already underwhelming and heavily criticized Ada Lovelace refresh, it falls behind by roughly 10%. In terms of relative performance, it sits somewhere between the PS4 and the Xbox Series S. It’s also important to note that it likely uses slower LPDDR5 memory, which further limits its bandwidth compared to traditional desktop or console setups, though in larger quantity.
On the CPU side, things are much better. It uses the Cortex-A78C, which is a slightly more powerful variant of the A78 core found in older flagship mobile SoCs like the Snapdragon 888 (used in devices such as the Samsung Galaxy S21). The difference here is that the A78C features larger cores designed for sustained workloads, meaning better performance, though at the cost of higher power consumption.
Even with DLSS doing much of the heavy lifting, there are already reports of relatively lightweight games like Street Fighter V running at native 540p. So, I wouldn’t bet on the Switch 2 keeping pace with next-gen titles. For the current generation, however, it should hold up reasonably well, though once again, that’s largely thanks to DLSS quite literally carrying the GPU on its back.
What’s curious is that Nintendo seems to have flipped the usual console design priorities. Instead of favoring GPU power and cutting corners on CPU performance, as we often see, they’ve gone the opposite route: the CPU is fairly decent for its class, but the GPU is noticeably weaker than expected. This tells me that they might be preparing for a mid-gen refresh, or more likely a V2 variant with a more efficient GPU down the line.
Pretty much spot on, the only thing I would say is that CPU performance took big leaps over the last 5 - 8 years, especially in mobile. So all the consoles were going to have HUGE upgrades there, and thankfully, so the increase in CPU performance isn’t a surprise to me at all.
I had a feeling it would be in the 4 / Pro range but not the Series S or even One X range.
Lot's of optimization and DLSS will help the Nintendo Switch 2 with longevity. Nintendo really never focused on graphics or fps anyway. It's not like they're competing against Sony and Microsoft when it comes to graphics
You say its weak, yet are parroting the same tired DF points, all of these are estimates of "close to baseline performance" Not representative of final output in the slightest. All these 2050 tests with starved ram and in the videos case (using A78AE instead of the Proper A78C which contrary to what some may say is not a simple label, but actually cut cpu performance in half) Of course this device wont compete and surpass a PS5, that wasn't the goal as to do that within the price range/power output would be ridiculous. But in mobile/portable sense, no matter what mobile chip its compared to, for the target need: sustained max performance (contrary to "bursts" for mobile)
This thing is a little monster. Which many will likely follow. More than the play on numbers PC/Nintendo haters (admit it you love to hate them) love to propagate, more telling is how 3rd parties are gravitating towards it (despite shitting all over past devices from Nintendo. It WONT beat/match a PS5, but please stop the "its Ps4" nonsense, don't embarras yourselves like DF is doing lately. Wait for final hardware/games/proper tests to judge.
I'll be getting one and my expectations were always around the PS4 pro region maybe with some vrr.
I think I'd prefer to be pleasantly surprised than disappointed
Kid, do yourself a favor and book an appointment with a doctor, either your reading comprehension is nonexistent, or your fanboy goggles are on so tight they’re cutting off circulation to your brain. Either way, that’s not normal.
I never said a word about the RTX 2050, never made any comparison to it, didn’t mention Digital Foundry, and definitely didn’t say "it's a PS4". But somehow, you managed to hallucinate all of that from my comment. Impressive, in a deeply concerning way. Get that checked.
It's not running PS4 or Xbox series X games. Not even close. It has enough power to run Mario and Zelda and maybe GTA V on low low settings.
It'll run GTA v above what the PS4 version was have to remember that was a PS3 game running on the ps4 which itself had a mobile CPU which heavily impacted game frame rates
It will never run even the most cut down version of GTA vi but it could do rdr2
I'd love to see a downclocked 3050M run Cyberpunk 2077 for comparisons.
Well, a base 3050M 4GB (1792 CUDA) runs Cyberpunk 2077 at around 45 FPS at 1080p on medium settings with DLSS set to Quality, which means it's rendering at 720p native. CD Projekt RED has stated that the Switch 2 version will offer two modes, a quality mode running at 30 FPS and a performance mode running at 40 FPS.
We also know that, on paper, the Switch 2 is about 10% weaker than that 3050M. So if we assume it’s running the game at similar medium settings with DLSS on Quality for the performance mode, the numbers check out.
Now, that’s without ray tracing. I couldn’t find any information confirming whether the Switch 2 version will include it, but if it does, that would definitely change the equation. As RT tanks the performance of this 3050M, so it would need DLSS on Performance to even reach 30fps and would still be messy.
@Vits - I'm also wondering where you got your SFVI information from. We've seen comparison videos that show the Switch 2 closer in looks to the PS5 version and a considerable upgrade over the PS4 version of the game.
I'd be interested to know where you got your 540p from.
I mean it's essentially a handheld that can also play on the TV. That's all I'm buying it for. I have no disillusions that it'll replace my PS5 or PC.
The odd bit is that the GPU although Ampere architecture actually follows the build design of the Lovelace 40 series so it’s definitely custom built specifically for the Switch.
Nintendo is eating the tariff markups. There will be no black Friday deals on ANY consoles.
Well, I am ok waiting to see an mint condition used console selling here. Probably in 3~4 years I'll consider it
Hobby is getting out of control for pricing and the specs on this and the price they’re asking for and $80 games, it’s just absurd. I can’t give into this and support it, tarrifs or not, if people aren’t buying it, they will adjust prices for the market, that’s how it works. Hell consoles are usually sold at a loss. The fact that there’s variable pricing on games and seeing sh*t like Mafia and Clair Obscure being $50 games shows there’s something up and they’re just testing this out.
I can wait for sales or do exactly what you’re doing and wait to see used prices.
This channel should be the new Digital Foundry. Just facts, no guessing, no lies, no bias, no annoying giggling. Let's wait for June 5 to confirm this.
Yeah the DF direct videos have led to some wild speculation I still love df retro but their core content leaves a lot to be desired
And they want $450. The PS5 digital was $400. Leave it to Nintendo to be Nintendo. No identity loss here.
Until Sony copies Nintendo again and launches a portable so everybody can come make excuses for why IT WILL be overpriced and why it cant reach PS5.
I can't really play my ps5 on a plane though so it's not really in the same league here it's more in line with ROG and steamdeck
All upgrades should be free or have a very minimal fee. By the way, there are unofficial reports that pre-orders for switch 2 reached almost 7M units globally already! Crazy!
I like free performance upgrades. The two Zelda games should benefit greatly.