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8GB VRAM problem highlighted yet again, this time by The Last of Us Part 2

Benchmark tests show that The Last of Us Part 2 can struggle with only 8GB of VRAM, which is bad news for the upcoming RTX 5060 & RTX 5060 Ti.

neutralgamer199268d ago

Play the original whihx is much better

PanicMechanic67d ago

TLOU 2 has much improved gameplay. Still isn’t a third person action game out there with better gameplay

Vits67d ago

Oh yeah, the gameplay that matches so well with the narrative it gives you whiplash if you're paying attention. I swear TLOU 2 was developed by two different teams that had only minimal interaction with each other.

neutralgamer199267d ago

Gameplay should be better in a sequel but story and characters are much much much much better in TLOU. There is a reason the original sold 3 times as much

OmegaSoldati68d ago

I remember when Grand Theft Auto V was running with 512 MB GGDR3 RAM.That was with the Xbox 360. Producers are not paying programmers to optimize games. Just my two cents, but i used to work with hardware, not an expert on software. Also Last of US part 1 had a horrible port on PC, i dont know about the part 2.

hollabox67d ago

TLOU 2 port is not bad so far. I played it on both my RTX 4070S and my 7900XT in 4K with and without upscaling. My 7900XT has abit more raster power, I do not have to use upscalers with everything set to max except shadows (set to high, you lose 6 FPS going very high) and get somewhere around 73 to 80 FPS. RTX 4070S was around 66 FPS, but it does drop below 60. Just enabled DLSS quality which looks good in this title and it's straight 60 v-sync or about 83 FPS in 4K with DLSS quality. I have fast SSDs with WD Black SN850 2-4TBs drives in both gaming PCs (living room and bedroom). My RTX 4070S CPU is an AMD 16 core 5900XT, and my 7900XT uses 9900X CPU, both uses tuned PBO and curve optimizer.

So you should be fine with anything around 6800XT, RTX 3800 TI, 4070S, 7800XT and above GPUs to run this game in 4K with a little bit of upscaling in quality mode. I only saw one bug in the beginning where Joel's arm stays up blocking the sun and did not go away until I started a new save. However, that was the first 5 minutes of the game.

OmegaSoldati65d ago

You have a good high end setup and understand about configurations. I'm looking forward to get a Steam Deck, im not worried about The Last of Us 2, but Valve handheld is not running this game as it should and the same could apply to other games, its the second time i see something related to the Last of Us and performance issues. Most of the time i would use that little thing docked on my small 24 monitor, im not looking forward to play AAA games and i don't care that much about performance, sure its better to have a great setup like yours, but i live in a third world country, i got to make my money count, so ive been researching a lot about. The other alternative would be a mid range PC, 6600 or 4060 for a example or even a 3060.

hollabox65d ago

No worries, what you can do is buy a Dell OptiPlex of Ebay 5060 or something similar off Ebay with atleast a Coffee Lake processor for about $250. Spend $125 and you can get a 5080 with Intel 10700. Now, the GPU is big, I would not go below a 6700XT or RTX 3060 TI in terms of performance. Those cards have the performance of modern day consoles. You're better off just buying a console if the budget is tight.

Amazon has Sapphire AMD 7700XT for $435 right now. This will get you above Xbox X, and PS5 performance, and about the performance of the PS5 Pro. Best Buy as XFX O.C AMD 7800XT for $629 which is faster than the PS5 Pro. Ebay has ASUS ROG Strix NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 TI OC for $360, that's in the 7600XT area of raster performance despite it's edge. Faster when enabling RT on the 2080 TI.

In terms of CPU, any Intel 10K series, AMD 5700X and above will do. The 3D cache stuff is honestly for e streamers and competitive gamers. Even AMD 3800X/3950X CPUs will do if all you want is 60 FPS. They only struggle hitting 120 FPS, will rocket past 60 FPS no problem. I had the 3800X up until last year, and CP2077 for example ran at 123 FPS on my 3800X. My 5900XT manages 158 to 161 FPS withe same GPU. My 9900X hits 188 to 192 FPS with the 7900XT. So the 3700X for example should suite your needs for $75 off Ebay.

OmegaSoldati64d ago

Yeah i might get that Steam little handheld or a cheap console to play some games from PS3/Xbox 360 era and some PC exclusives. I have a Ps4 Pro with a SSD Crucial bx500 installed, really made a difference, but im tired of consoles and my notebook/laptop is great, but i used it only to work, browse and study. I need to go PC or at least Steam deck (linux o.s). I need to be free! Amd cpu/gpu combo would be great for a simple setup too. Lets see if prices will get better, i was going to build it, but U.S VS China is chaos right now.

anast67d ago

5090 is the way moving forward. Open those wallets.

Eidolon67d ago (Edited 67d ago )

32GB is max for 5090 right? I think that's future proof for 4K + gaming, but I think even 16GB -24GB would be fine. I really think we should be getting 16GB standard on xx70 cards by now.. definitely a greedy decision. I think AI work has something to do with it, they can sell their 4090 equivalent card(A6000, which basically around the same performance, in fact 4090 might be better for SD, but the VRAM limits it) with double the VRAM but for $4000+. Lot of the heavy LLM and SD work requires significant VRAM.

anast66d ago

Yes, more is always better when it comes to this stuff. I would go 24 minimum. 16 you will still have problems.

FinalFantasyFanatic67d ago

32GB is probably excessive, you'd never use it all gaming, I really think most cards should be sitting in the 16GB to 24GB range, even 12GB being the standard on the weakest card would be a noticeable improvement. I don't really like the fact that the 5080 only has 16GB, it's probably enough for now, but with how developers are nowadays... 24GBs would future-proof it for its entire life span (plus I plan to hang onto my cards for a long time).

OpenGL67d ago

Never say never but I agree for games in the next 3-5 years, 32GB probably won't be required. By the time it is there will be mid-range cards faster than the 5090.

anast66d ago

OpenGL

This is a good point.

FinalFantasyFanatic66d ago (Edited 66d ago )

@OpenGL
Yeah, I pretty much agree, that 32GB will outlive the 5090's lifespan, higher performing cards will be more likely to make use of that VRAM, but that's probably 2 generations away, at least, possibly.

Destiny108067d ago

the only game you can play with only 8 gigs of ram, is counterstrike with no mods or doom 2 with mods

Eidolon67d ago (Edited 67d ago )

I'm actually running a lot of games on my 3060 TI 8gb at 1440P at High to Ultra, a lot with DLSS Quality but some not, like Atom Fall. But I get you, 8GB is now the lowest you can get, or it should be, yet GPU manufacturers are still making low-mid to mid cards with 8GB, it's sad.

FinalFantasyFanatic67d ago (Edited 67d ago )

8GB shouldn't be the standard on the lowest end of the range, they really should bump it up to at least 12GB, preferably 16GB.

Games from 4 years ago get close to maxing out the 11GB on my 1080ti at 1440p.

Michiel198967d ago

8gb is more than enough for 1080p and also fine for 1440p for most games and yes there should be cards for those kind of pc's. Bro you're talking about an 1080 ti....lets not compare that to 8gb versions of the new series they will outperform it and it won't be close.

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The Last of Us Part II Remastered Sold 2 Million Units During HBO Season 2 Run, Analyst Reports

Marketing analyst estimates over 2 million units of The Last of Us Part II Remastered sold during HBO Season 2.

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Redemption-6415d ago

If true, this is why Sony keeps making them. A lot of "gamers" might complain or cry about it. But as long as these things keep making money, they will keep doing it and ignore all those complaining online

neutralgamer199215d ago

You are absolutely correct end of fbe day money talks and so far their remastered/remakes have generated a lot of money

Lightning7714d ago

So y'all are more worried about a companies pockets than your own entertainment? Are you pretending to like the same game being re-realeased each year?

CosmicTurtle14d ago

Nobody said anything like this above.

S2Killinit14d ago

No that is not what they are saying. People want to play these games. But, We have a minority of people who think they speak for everyone.

Redemption-6414d ago

Da fuck are you talking about? When did I say or even imply that?

1Victor14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

@llight: “ Are you pretending to like the same game being re-realeased each year? “
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👆👆So said a CoD player 🤣

Edit: now I’m curious as to how the halo tv series affected the sales of the halo game 🤔

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Lightning7714d ago

@cosmic That's pretty much implied. Keep doing the same thing because it makes the company money forget my entertainment as long as they get richer. Instead of demanding more. If this was anyone else there would be backlash and it would be real that's a fact.

In a nutshell yes that is good the game is getting more attention more than ever thanks to the show I understand and acknowledge that. I'm saying all it promotes is more re-releases and remasters from games that don't need it.

Chevalier14d ago

"I'm saying all it promotes is more re-releases and remasters from games that don't need it."

Nah this is just short sited idiocy. Remasters and re-releases are a thing because the cost of making games is out of hand.

Also a large portion of these sales are to completely new customers. Add in that it's very profitable as shown by these sales. So that's 3 solid reasons to do what they did.

anast14d ago

If true this means that game companies would need to make a successful mini-series for every remaster to pull these kinds of numbers.

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Lightning7714d ago (Edited 14d ago )

"Allot of gamers my complain and cry" it's literally in your own freakin words kid... How come nobody can see.. It's n4g not the brightest ppl in the world after all. That much as always ring true.

"👆👆So said a CoD player 🤣"

I don't play COD. What are you talking about? Yeah idc about halo TV or anything like that.

"Nah this is just short sited idiocy.'

Says the number on guy in that category. More money in remasters means more remasters... Simple

Cool let's all pretend to get excited for another game that doesn't need a remaster. You freakin fanboys ruin everything with yalls corporate boot licking BS....

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franwex15d ago

Will HBO make a season 3 without Sony? They did with Game of Thrones after all.

S2Killinit14d ago

Why would they make it without Sony?

Grilla14d ago

I thought part 2 was 2 seasons, seasons 2 and 3. Season 4 wouldn’t have any source material unless ND made part 3 by then.

88314d ago

SPOILER (sort of):

Season 2 did not come close to completing the story of the 2nd game...

StormSnooper14d ago

They will continue the story passed what was created for the games. Sony is the one making the series. Is it possible that the series goes in a new direction? Yeah. But who knows.

LucasRuinedChildhood14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

@StormSnooper

Neil Druckmann said in an interview with Colin Moriarty that they're not going beyond the story of TLOU2 for the show.

Relientk7714d ago

You definitely didn't watch the show. They split the 2nd game into two seasons. If you played the 2nd game it actually makes sense.

lukasmain14d ago

It will be 3 season for game 2. Ending after season 4

franwex14d ago

You’re correct. I saw the first season, but I lost interest in the second season. Not due to the controversy of the second game-I actually like it. Mostly due to not being in the mood for a downer of a show at the moment. But I’ll check it out later.

lukasmain14d ago

Game 2 will finish in the show by the time season 4 ends. And no, they won't go on after that. Not unless there is another game

MrNinosan14d ago

Season 2, 3 and 4 will cover The Last of Us Part 2.

And no, Sony and Neil will be there all the way.

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Scissorman15d ago

This isn't an argument for the low-hanging fruit, but this here is exactly why Sony - and others - will keep producing them. Dev costs are low. Profitability is high. It's low risk, high reward. And given the skyrocketing costs in the AAA space, projects like this help fund future titles. I don't like it, and I'd much rather Sony - and others - release new titles, but I sure as hell understand why it happens.

anast14d ago

A mini-series had to be made for this to happen.

PhillyDonJawn14d ago

Whats the point of making new games when you can keep releasing old ones 😂 they keep buying so why not?

S2Killinit14d ago

Soooo all those people talking trash are pretty surprised eh?

Eonjay14d ago

They want to tell you what yo think, who to hate and what to buy.

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Review - The Last of Us Part II: Remastered (PC) | WayTooManyGames

WTMG's Kyle Nicol: "The Last of Us Part II: Remastered is a beautiful mess. An ambitious title that had all the right ingredients, but didn’t always pan out the way it should. The excellent survival action gameplay that showcases humanity’s brutality is often let down by a story that is trying too much and has poor pacing. Thankfully, Part II’s debut on PC improves on the last game, making it the best place to play, even with its imperfections."

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anast47d ago (Edited 47d ago )

If the story is deeply flawed to the blogger and it's a story game, how does the blogger justify giving it a 9? A deep flaw is unacceptable in any part of the game. If everything else was perfect, it would be an 8 game. Deep flaws are foundational issues.

Let me help:

Graphics: 10

Sound: 10

Story: 8 (Overreliance on flashbacks. While the story beats are properly paced and the plot points are generally pacy, it tries to tell 2 stories at once, which led to a structural issue in the overall story, but despite this the message and mood are striking relevant.)

Gameplay: 8 (Turning in the game is awkward and it gets in the way or searching for stuff and the quick turn in combat doesn't feel intuitive.)

Overall: 9

PhillyDonJawn14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

How tf a game with 8 gameplay and 8 story get a 9 overall? Graphics and sound does not! Make up for that. Gameplay and story hold way more weight than graphics and sound.

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The Last of Us™ Part II Remastered 2025 PC 4K (No DLSS) Incredible Forest Graphics

CG says: In this video, we take a look at the same forest section on horseback in The Last of Us™ Part II Remastered that we showcased in 2020 on the PS4 Pro. It’s an amazing bit of exposition with not much happening aside from a bit of banter. However, taking it slowly rather than galloping past, the forest graphics are actually pretty detailed. One of the more beautiful moments from the game. PS4 Pro version holds-up pretty well (that output was upscaled 4K and back then, there was no DLSS or AI interventions that we know about).

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LordoftheCritics56d ago

Reshade?

Oversaturated and overexposed

RedDeadLB56d ago

what in the oversaturated hell even is this video

bunt-custardly56d ago

The video is HDR hence why the playback looks off in SDR mode.