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Cyberpunk 2077 on Nintendo Switch 2 Targeting 1080p Docked, 720p Handheld, at 30-40 FPS

The Cyberpunk 2077 Ultimate Edition is coming to the Nintendo Switch 2, but what kind of performance can you expect?

VenomUK20d ago

Targeting 1080p means a modest resolution compared to PS5 & Series X - but at least it’s a step up from the disappointing performance on Xbox Series S.

DivineHand12520d ago

I don't understand your comment. Cyberpunk 2077 runs at 1080p 60 FPS on the series S in performance mode and 1440p 30 fps in quality mode.

The series S is more powerful than the majority of the handhelds on the market because it has access to more power while the handhelds have to be constrained to preserve battery life.

gold_drake20d ago

are we really at this point, where we defend older tech?

but i get it, its nintendo, they always get away with that shit.

OpenGL19d ago

The Series S also launched at $299 almost 5 years ago.

RaidenBlack19d ago

We got CP2077 running native on a Nintendo but still no GTA V, which could've easily run on Switch 1.

Rainbowcookie20d ago

On youtube GvG they are playing the demo on switch 2 and it looks good.

Christopher20d ago

Looks like PS4 base model to me. Not sure why 12 year-old hardware quality is a selling point, especially without Ray Tracing.

Rainbowcookie20d ago

Should say good , for what it is and them working a few weeks on it.

Profchaos20d ago

@christopher it's now been confirmed the switch 2 does feature ray tracing and dlss

https://www.theverge.com/ne...

Christopher20d ago

@Profchaos none of it is in the gameplay shown for CP2077 and highly likely extremely limited for games that do utilize it. Much like the PS4/XBO. Again, 12 year old tech.

VariantAEC18d ago

@Profchaos
My phone also has hardware accelerated raytracing. What games use it? World of Tanks and what else? Basically nothing. What Switch 2 games feature any kind of RT?

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Cacabunga19d ago

Smh at the level of ignorance..

Switch 2 is just a base PS4.

RaidenBlack19d ago

@christopher
Nintendo has been targeting a generation older perf since Wii.
Wii stayed at Gamecube perf level, WiiU reached slightly over X360/PS3, but commercially failed.
So, Nintendo Switched to handheld. That's a different architecture space but its a more modern architecture which let it perform much better than the X360/WiiU space and hence was able to stay relevant this long.
Hence Switch 2 continuing the handheld trend and will also be able to continue the perf trend of being able to perform slightly better than the base PS4 level space.
Yes, it should've arrived at least 2 years prior but that's Wii U gen ending early, Switch taking over early and staying relevant for much longer that caused its launch delay.

Jin_Sakai20d ago

It’s a handheld what do you expect. It’s good enough for what it is.

Profchaos20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

The echo chamber hates anything the switch 2 does apparently. Because they hate the price of some games.

Guys wouldn't have coped with the Neo Geo

ZycoFox20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

It's a portable, and it's Nintendo, not unexpected..

If you want frame rate and higher res/textures then just get a PS5 or better yet a good PC.

I wouldn't buy a Switch 2 for third party games unless they were light on the hardware.

VariantAEC18d ago

For the price Nintendo is making Switch 2 an easy skip. That isn't good.

RaidenBlack19d ago

A tiny comment without much context or reasoning, but the upvotes echo the community here.

Kornholic19d ago

The context and reasoning is very much baked into the comment.

Vits20d ago

To put things into perspective, the Steam Deck’s preset for Cyberpunk 2077 runs at a mix of medium and low settings, targets 40 FPS, and renders at 650p before upscaling. That means the Switch 2 version will likely be very close to what you get on the Deck in handheld mode, possibly a bit sharper.

When it comes to efficiency, the Steam Deck lasts between 1 hour 40 minutes and 2 hours 15 minutes while running Cyberpunk. Based on Nintendo’s own worst-case scenario, the Switch 2 should be in the same range at around 2 hours, but if it's more efficient, it could do better.

Docked mode is where things get more interesting. The Steam Deck doesn’t have an official docked mode, but with Power Tools, you can overclock it while plugged in, pushing the resolution to 900p native, bumping most settings to medium, and still holding 40 FPS. If the Switch 2 is aiming for 1080p in docked mode and achieving it natively, then it could have a slight edge in performance.

Honestly, that’s solid performance, and if the efficiency is there, it might surpass the Steam Deck when it comes to AAA games. However, it’s not going to be a game-changer. More powerful current Windows handhelds will likely surpass it in many scenarios, but they are also more expensive and less efficient.

Profchaos20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

Really well said to bad everyone even slightly positive about switch is getting hate similar to the pro did.

People just don't like that people enjoy things and probably want Nintendo to fold so we only have one console maker

Vits20d ago

I mean, don’t get me wrong, I still think it can be a pretty bad value. But unlike the Pro, the lack of value isn’t going to come from the hardware or a lack thereof. It’s the game prices that could end up being way too high, with Nintendo opening the floodgates.

But that’s something we will have to wait and see.

Profchaos20d ago

@vits I agree game prices are a real problem thankfully third parties appear to have stuck to a traditional price point games like street fighter 6 appear to be available for a far cheaper price than mk world.

I'll be getting the mk world bundle personally. I would prefer the physical cart but when it's half the cost in the bundle it's a no brainer.

I still stand by the fact the hardware needs a chance to prove itself and from what I saw in yesterday's presentation it looks like strong capable hardware NVIDIA have also validated overnight that dlss and ray tracing features are supported on the switch 2 with the df team not seeing many signs of games running dlss in the presentation it seems there might be more to the hardware than we have seen right now.

I don't think downplaying the whole system is fair because of the game prices realistically this will be reflected in retail sales and the market will speak for itself right now Nintendo shares have gone up since the reveal.

Michiel198919d ago

its more the mindset of: if a gaming machine isn't EXACTLY how i want my gaming machines, it's bad.For the audience that they're targeting, it's great except the game prices...thats just stupid, but I suspect they'll get away with it and others will follow suit with their game prices.

Profchaos20d ago

40 on a vrr display can result in gameplay that feels akin to 60.

Vrr is an amazing tech we still need to learn if Nintendo vrr bottoms out like PS5 does (xsx doesn't) but I would be expecting 40 with vrr to become a standard on switch 2

Profchaos20d ago

For clarity I'm playing god of war Ragnarok using the 40 fps mode with vrr on ps5 and it's fantastic it should be a standard

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Profchaos1d 18h ago

I really want to know what's going on with docked vrr cause cyberpunk at 40 fps docked seems to be a choice driven by vrr

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Sonic18812d ago

DLSS should help the Nintendo Switch 2 with longevity

Profchaos1d 17h ago (Edited 1d 17h ago )

Based on so e of the impossible ports we saw on switch 1 I'm not worried about the hardwares longevity.

Next gen systems ps6 and next box might slow down switch 2 development but given leaks showing PlayStation releasing a new portable system around the same time as ps6 that can play ps5 games says that next gen cross gen seems to be poised to last the entire generation

And right now I'd say there isn't much that couldn't be scaled down to run on switch 2

Goodguy012d ago

Nvidia or Nintendo need to come out and detail how dlss will work on switch 2. Like is it dlss4? Or just completely customized for the switch.

Tacoboto2d ago

I'm sure they've detailed exactly that in documentation provided to developers.

b00mFargl32d ago

It will probably be behind a $20 demo that we have to download. 😂

PRIMORDUS2d ago

I like to know as well, which version of DLSS? 2, 3, 3.5 or 4? I mean it's not that hard for Nintendo to say which version games will use.

Profchaos1d 23h ago (Edited 1d 22h ago )

Given the specs of the system and the time the hardware was produced if I had a stab in the dark I'd say a heavily customised dlss3

Neonridr2d ago

it's GPU is based around ampere technology, which is 3 series cards tech. So some features from DLSS4 can be ported down to older cards, just not some 5 series exclusive features like multi-frame gen.

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Profchaos1d 18h ago

40fps docked is a interesting choice as it's in the vrr range but we don't have confirmation of vrr docked

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_SilverHawk_21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

After seeing the performance and quality of the games being inferior on switch 2 I'm curious to see the sales when released for switch 2 because those games are available now at discounted prices on pc handhelds and consoles with versions of those games far superior to what was shown on switch 2. Im wondering if millions of gamers will buy inferior versions of older games for switch 2 when they have better avenues of experiencing multiplatform games in way better quality

franwex20d ago

Yes. The answer to your question is yes.

To us those are inferior versions. To the people who Nintendo is marketing the switch 2, they are not. They don’t have other gaming consoles or gaming pcs. They have phones/tablets, maybe a work laptop.

Not sure if they will sell those versions for $70 or $80. But at $40 it is possible that they will sell well.

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gold_drake20d ago

so funny, especially ff7 remake.

big fk u to ms ha

Obscure_Observer20d ago

"big fk u to ms ha"

This comment will not age well.

Look no further than the upcoming Xbox Showcase.

gold_drake20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

mh probably not no ur right, but right at this very moment, its hilarious ha.

i guess because typically theres still gonna be a trailer on other systems if theres a multiplatform game in a showcase. wasnt im this case.

we'll see.

pwnmaster300020d ago

lol I feel like you made this call for a couple of games but always ended up wrong.
Forza not going to PlayStation.
Indiana jones not going PlayStation
Ms going multiplatform.
If your wrong here again im just gonna take everything you say and just believe the complete opposite.

andy8520d ago

It will. Isn't a chance on this planet its going to Xbox. Switch gamers buy games that's why it's on there, only wasnt already because it couldnt run it. Xbox players aren't interested in these types of games, and the fact they'd have to make 2 new console versions compared to 1 on Switch. Isn't worth it

Terry_B20d ago

Great. The Switch 2 can play Playstation 4 games released 5 years ago.

Obscure_Observer20d ago

Nice try.

It will also run current gen games like Split Fiction, Star Wars: Outlaws and the upcoming Borderlands 4, to name a few.

gold_drake20d ago

we dont know what they're gonna have to do to downgrade that tho.

all of these games are demanding titles.

especially outlaw and bdl 4

ThePacemaker20d ago

And the upcoming James Bond 007 game

gold_drake20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

that was my thought too, they made a huge deal about the new performanboost when we had this sorta thing with x1 and ps4 already.

Obscure_Observer20d ago

Console features 4K resolution up to 120fps. Plus DLSS and Ray Tracing support confirmed by Nintendo.

I think it will be more on par with the Xbox Series S rather than the PS4 Pro.

CrashMania20d ago

Will have to see I guess, most of the games they showed were cross gen and ran on PS4 and base X1, elden ring looked a bit rough if that was in game. Borderlands 4 doesn't look like much more graphically impressive than 3 to me, but as we've seen with switch 1 ports there'll probably have to be compromises for current gen games.

MDTunkown20d ago

Every multiplat is released on Xbox series S and switch 2 is around its strength but with newer hardware and better dlss and vrr so it probably will have better performance than S

CrashMania20d ago

@MD I think it's a pipedream, but I'd love to be proven wrong and would find it funny if it could somehow outperform the S. But i've not seen anything from the leaked specs or otherwise that suggests it's around series S level, more around PS4 and PS4 Pro level, which is to be expected from a handheld device, I think it has more RAM than the S though?

MDTunkown20d ago

@Crash it has more memory than series s and memory seems to be the main problem with series s. Now thinking about it, it’s quite interesting that MS decided to go with 8gb of ram while one X already had 12gb of ram.

darthv7220d ago (Edited 20d ago )

@md, ms has the opportunity to use ssd space as a memory cache but have not implemented it. It could help alleviate the memory issues devs say about the SS.

This is something MS has years of experience with in their OS division. Virtual memory. Switch 2 has 256gb of storage but they never gave specs on cpu/GPU or ram... some are saying that 256gb is shared with system ram. And it could be dynamic too.

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Ryzza520d ago

When I saw how much the console and games cost online it might as well already be scalped. The console price is basically the same as the PS5 and the games cost twice as much as I usually spend.

gold_drake20d ago

yeh i might just get the cknsole next year and just mod it quite honestly.

aint no way ima pay close to 100 quid or euros for a hame

badz14920d ago

Good luck playing the worst versions at inflated prices Nintendo fans

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