Rumor: PS3 40GB can actually play PS2 games, just not unlocked

Maxconsole writes:

The guys behind the following video actually claim that the 40GB PS3 does actually support all PS2 games, its just that this 'feature' is not unlocked for retail consoles. Here is a video of a supposed 40GB PS3 running in factory mode although many are calling it a FAKE...

[Helghast]

Maybe Sony can sell an emulator or just sell the top PS2 games as downloads over PSN.

Cmon Sony, at the very least sell "PS2 Greatest Hits" for download through PSN.

[GrieverSoul]

Not sure this is true or a hoax but one thing that confuses me is why does the 40gb and the 80gb allow PS2 virtual memory cards creation?! We cant play PS2 games in it so why make that feature?

Some will say, oh its for the 60gb models! Maybe true but if u dont have the card reader (like the 60gb version) the software does not allow too view anykind of format or other kind of utility related to that! Since u dont have the hardware the feature doenst came up! The same should be said and done with the 40gb or 80gb displaying the MC creator for PS2!

EDIT: To anyone interested in trying this:

http://www.waltercedric.com...

Im not sure it will work and its your PS3! Remember that! Im not home right now so I cant try it.

[Powertesties]

Interesting. haha Not sure what to think. If it is real, I can only hope that it plays ps2 games better than the old PS3 does.

Those games look like s**t on the PS3. I know, I know, not a new story but it rubs me the wrong way. When you want to play a PS2 title you have to power up the PS2 because the PS3 makes the games looks like number 2.

I hope Sony releases a emulator. Something, anything has to be better than that crap they built into some systems!

[gw4k]

because i hate the way the ps/3 makes the games look. I have seen articles all over the net about this. there is not good fix.

[motogamer]

because they won't capitalize on the game they already have in the PS2 collection. That and they wasted a ton of money developing a PS3 that would play PS2 games and then the games look like crap.

What gives sony?

[Sarick]

It's not always the PS3 that makes the screen look ,like garbage. It's when you run a SD PS2 game on an HDTV. The upscaler to the display. Just try it on an SDTV.

On another thing. It doesn't show the 2 USB ports in the front. The 60 and 80gb early models had 4 USB ports.

[Nineball2112]

Maybe I'm not understanding your question...

"one thing that confuses me is why does the 40gb and the 80gb allow PS2 virtual memory cards creation?! We cant play PS2 games in it so why make that feature?"

My 80gb Motorstorm SKU allows me to play PS2 games on it. It has the BC software on it, not the chip.

It allows me to create PS2 virtual memory card so that I can save my game progress. I don't have any PS2 "physical" memory cards, so I use the virtual one instead.

Does that answer your question or am I misunderstanding you?

[Maddens Raiders]

this is true. All PS3's that are currently bc locked will eventually be unlocked through and official Sony fw update once the PS2 is eventually laid to rest :( in 2010.

There is a lot of FUD in this particular thread. A lot of this should already be known by now to PlayStation fans for instance PS3 games look fine on the PS3 unless you are a n00b and have no idea how to set up one's sytem..

[animboo]

i submitted this story yesterday and it failed approval..i mean wtf.. http://www.n4g.com/NewsPend...

[Kushan]

"this is true. All PS3's that are currently bc locked will eventually be unlocked through and official Sony fw update once the PS2 is eventually laid to rest :( in 2010.

There is a lot of FUD in this particular thread. A lot of this should already be known by now to PlayStation fans for instance PS3 games look fine on the PS3 unless you are a n00b and have no idea how to set up one's sytem.."

Dude, the reason there's so much FUD around is because people like you keep spreading baseless rumours like "All PS3's that are currently bc locked will eventually be unlocked through and official Sony fw update". You don't know this, you're speculating, but you're claiming it as fact. There's nothing in the 40Gb units that can give them PS2 emulation via hardware, it would have to be all done in software. For it to be done in Software, Sony must be actively working on it. If it's not been released, it's not because there's some big conspiracy where Sony wants to milk as much money out of the PS2 as possible, it's because it's simply not finished yet. Remember, Sony makes it's money through software sales, not hardware. The money they'll make on someone buying a PS2 is insignificant to the money they'll make from someone buying a bunch of games at the same value, so it's in their best interests to get PS2 emulation on the PS3.

[cl63AMG]

Im pretty sure it has the virtual memory card support for PS1 games.

But I do hope we (40gb owners) get some ps2 compatibilty in the future.

[Super-Brad]

I believe this is true to some extent in that, when sony implemented B/C for PS3's they knew to cut prices they had to get rid off it, so they added part off the software for future references.
When they added the PS2 chip to the PS3 there has to be software needed to run the games and this is included in every FW.
So saying a 40GB has B/C is partly true and meaning this can be modified and changed so that it uses the PS3's power instead of the PS2's B/C chip unless you have a B/C compatible PS3

[ThanatosDMC]

When you run a PS2 game on the PS3. The "Playstation 2" logo still pops up like a normal PS2 game running on a PS2.

[AriesFury]

not getting the developers to get out more PS1 and PS2 games on PSN now that the consoles are no longer b/c

[shadow2797]

Actually AriesFury, I'm fairly certain that PS1 games run on every model of PS3. Just fyi.

Luckily, I have an 80 Gb model with BC and a fully functioning PS2 from 2002, well almost. It used to have trouble playing discs with the blue underside, not sure if that's still an issue.

And in case you're wondering: yes, I have used my PS3 to play both PS1 and PS2 games.

[Ryudo]

@shadow2797
Discs with the blue underside are CD's not DVD's

40GB PS3's Will never be able to play PS2 games, anyone who has tried to emulate PS2 games on a Quad Core PC knows this for a fact. Simply put the 40GB PS3 has a new main board that doesn't have any PS2 chip sets. It saves Sony huge money on manufacturing costs its smaller and redesigned.

Simply put the PS3 just ain't powerful enough to purely software emulate PS2 games. Why do you think Sony added PS2 hardware to PS3's from the start. Answer because they had to if they could just use software they would of saving them self massive amounts of money.

With the 40GB PS3 all the PS2 hardware has been removed and the main board redesigned. Meaning the console is less likely to brake but won't be able to play PS2 games. Sony didn't remove backwards compatibly to spite people they had to to save manufacturing costs.

Anyone saying the 40GB PS3's will ever be able to play 90 percent of PS2 games are talking out there ass. Its beyond me how this is even news it shows how little people know about technology. I guess nowa days people just expect stuff to work and understand nothing about how it does.

[Kushan]

Hey Ryudo, I don't know what emulator you're using, but PCSX2 works pretty well on my quad core machine. It's not perfect, but that's a software issue, not a lack-of-powerful-hardware issue. The PS3 has the power to emulate a PS2 and then some, trust me.

[TrevorPhillips]

i know yea i wish that too

[Vistrix]

Of course its fake... The "PS2 chip" has been totally removed from that PS3 version.

The only way this would work is if Sony plans on releasing a PS2 software emulator via PSN packaged with PS2 downloadable games

OR

Homebrew runs on the PS3 and someone creates a PS2 emulator (Which is years away).

Otherwise, its 100% impossible and makes no sense.

Any youtube videos with no instructions or sources on how this works should automatically be branded as fake when it comes to stuff like this.

[Baliw]

the source:

http://www.teknoconsolas.es...

Spanish forum.

Read my post below for more info.

[SuperM]

It has to be fake, because if every PS3 had BC then sony wouldnt have made a chip for the 60gb model to make it compatible. Why waste money? Doesnt make sense at all.

[lordgodalming]

PS2 emulation isn't exactly "years away." The PCSX2 team have got a very, very good emulator for PC running right now, and if you have a PS2 already, you can legally dump its bios into your PC and use it to play most PS2 games. I have personally played FFX and FFXII from start to finish on my laptop (again, legally since I own retail versions of both games and a PS2). Amazing what some of those old games look like with 6xAA, though you have to have one hell of a rig to run them at that res.

Now, whether the pc emulator could be run efficiently on a PS3 is another question entirely.

[Palodios]

100% impossible? That's not true at all. Hardware emulation is impossible if you don't have the chip, sure, but the 80gb consoles didn't have the chip, but used software emulation. People at sony have said that selling ps2 emulation for the later squ's is actually possible, but they wanted people to buy ps3 games instead of ps2 games.

[GrieverSoul]

Double post! sorry

[Dragunov]

Memory cards are for the PS1 games

[GrieverSoul]

Check the options! Memory card for PS2 and PS1!
Check please.

[no-spin]

i have a 80GB motorstorm bundle PS3
it does have an emulator, but not so good
MGS series runs like crap
Ratchet and Clank too.

luckily god of war runs freaking sweet!!!

[Cajun Chicken]

I'm sure thats an EU 60gigger.

[I_LOVE_MYSELF]

Thats correct... I should know I own one :-)

(edit)

oooooo silly me I totally I misread what he wrote... I thought he said "im sure THERES a EU 60gigger"... But yeah the chrome strip is lovely and I actually use the card reader :-)

[PirateThom]

You sure, because on the EU 60GB the "silver strip" is actually chrome and reflective, on the other models it's a lot duller, less mirror like.

I have a 60Gb and 80GB here... :P

[Cajun Chicken]

Just a 60gigger here, I can see my face in the silver strip of my PS3, also, I'm sure that the card reader sections aren't as big in later models.

Edit: Actually, watching that vid, I think differently, that strip is definatly duller than the one on my 60gigger.
This would explain recent firmwares sneakily and still patching in PS2 games.

Edit 2: Nope, sorry, I'm a non-believer in this...no 'Playsation 2' logo comes up, when the game boots its as if he's just changed source input with a remote.

[Chug]

That definately looks like one of the newer 80 or 160gb ps3's. It doesn't have the nice shiny chrome strip like my 60gb.

Edit: Notice when the game starts up the camera angle kinda tilts to the left as if he's reaching over doing something fishy with his left hand...

It's gotta be fake!!

[na2ru1]

the playstation 3 text on the middle is reflective and fitted on.

the newer models playstation 3 text is dull and painted on. People got what they asked for ey? a price reduction.

i love my memory card slots too. AND i just recieved my PS3 HEADSETS yesterday!!! Unavailable in shops. got mine online Game.co.uk £17.50 after rewards deduction. Anyone seen them in shop yet in uk?

[antt3]

I'm not saying this was real, but it seemed like he tilted the camera that way to show the TV and the PS3 at the same time. Notice when he tilts the camera, he keeps the PS3 in the shot the entire time, and gets the TV in the upper corner.

Again, not saying it's real, but that was how I interpreted the camera tilt.

[Baliw]

Yeah, you got it right.
Thats the sole pourpose of the camera angle. To show hes not faking video even if it doesnt look very real.

I just asked the guys to make a better video with better shoots and showing the whereabouts. Also playing the game with a cable attached controller.

[Marquis_de_Sade]

I got mine off game.co.uk a few months back. Recently saw a load in my local game shop a few weeks ago, didn't check last time I was in though.

It's a nice headset but it can ache a bit unless I spend a bit of time finding the sweet spot.

[Biphter]

I think you are correct with secret patching of PS2 emulation, not only that I think they are still refining the PS1 emulation as well. I still actively check the few games that didn't work so well on my Euro 60 Gig PS3 (half hardware half software emulation of PS2)and they run with less glitches now. I still like to play some of the old games, so its nice to see, but may go unnoticed by most folks.

The biggest indication has been after 2.60 hit. The last game I had that wouldn't work fully (freezing after the title screen) has now started working perfectly, its a PS1 game called Vib Ribbon. I love that game and its never worked properly on my PS3... now it does, and I'm so pleased to have it back running :)

This doesn't prove that a 40Gig PS3 (or newer 80 and 160) will run PS2 games but Sony must still be working on it secretly because the last time they made any comments on backwards compatibility improvements in a firmware was ages ago, but its still going on as far as my own collection is concerned.

BTW, people complaining of PS2 games looking cack on PS3... have you tried running any recently (on PS3's that are capable)? You can add filters and scaling to the GFX now and IMO a PS3 running PS2 games through HDMI with these effects on makes PS2 games look 10x BETTER than if you run them on a real PS2 connected to a HDTV.

[Sarick]

There is no pop up that says press the "Press the PS button"

I have a 60g launch PS3 and when I load a PS2 game a pop up appear's telling me to press the PS button. There is no po pup on here and by default this pop up appears to set the correct controller for the ps2 features of the ps3.

If there is no pop up the game might not even be loading on a PS3.

[themaninthebox]

the only time that indicator comes up is if you haven't turned the controller on within the first few seconds. if you do, however, turn the controller on immediately, then you won't ever see the indicator to turn it on.

[Sarick]

I had the controller on loaded the game up using the controller and the message popped up. If the controller is already on and the pop up shows how would it turn on a second time?

Just tested it. MY PS3s aren't set to auto-load games as soon as the disk is inserted. I when I load a disk I manually start them so my controller is on when I start the game.

[steriotyp]

The indicator will turn on anytime your controller is not connected via USB. When you boot a PS2 game, your controller will turn off, and the indicator will prompt you to reconnect upon the game loading.

The odds of somebody connecting there controller via USb isn't terribly large, but it is there. The easiest way to know if its real or not? Just get a shot of the PS3 and look at the USB ports and the faceplate. There will only be two ports, and later 40gb models have a black face. Earlier 60 and even 80's had a chromed strip. Also, look at where the memory ports would be. It will look similar, but there are no lines to break to lift it up if it is a 40. This video is very low quality and while I won't say ya or neh, there is not a way to be decisive with this video.

[TrevorPhillips]

ah doesnt matter no more i think there planning on bringing ps2 games to the psn to download

[I_LOVE_MYSELF]

Would be awesome to be able to download games like SOTC for people like me who missed it... I know I suck balls but I am still looking out for it when I am out and about... Im gonna buy it online soon...

[na2ru1]

not cheap.

[therealking79]

order my sotc from amazon the same time mgs4 came out, never got to finish it though, sotc that is, only beat the first three clossi, not sure if that was spelled correct. the game just didnt look right, graphically speaking, ofcourse my eyes have already adjusted to the greatness of hi-def.

[Sarick]

It would be nice if this is true, Sony probably been keeping it secret upgrading the emulation until it's bugs get worked out. I wouldn't understand it unless they was trying to get sales from the PS2 or make some big second announcement that the new PS3's have PS2 support with a big price cut.

I have several of these >>

http://www.newegg.com/Produ...

12 hours talk time FTW.

[TrevorPhillips]

im sure you will be able to in near future

[sajj316]

Not the first time I'm seeing a video with this service mode enabled .. multiple videos like this have been circulating

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Baliw]

cause the videos are from the same guy?

The ps3 in these videos is the same one, from Ruso on teknoconsolas.es forum; and this is where it all started:

http://teknoconsolas.es/for...

All this came from a spanish website.

The owner of this 40gb PS3 send it to Sony to repair and, the techies send it back with the factory mode enabled.

Video is totally true.

I actually told him to make the videos more realistic as it looks like a fake but i can tell you its not.

The fact that the video appeared on demonhades is due to demonhades jealousy for fame in the ps3 scene. You can check the original video without watermarks in the link above.
Also this guy, demonhades, almost take credit for ifcaro's ps2 back ups on ntsc jap consoles news of last week.

Just take a look at the other videos and give him a go.

Cheers.

[TrevorPhillips]

lol

[Hellsvacancy]

Ive never played any of the God Of War games id like to

[Nineball2112]

I'm there with you.

I haven't played any of the God of War games, nor Ico, nor SotC.

I kinda skipped the last generation of gaming... :(

[locos85]

I really did't like Ico. I don't know what the hype was all about.

[daveoftheproject]

you have to play the gow games. pure awesome from start to finish:)

on topic, would love to see universal bc implemented, my ps2 deserves to retire and i think a bit of upscaling would make my old games alot more palatable on my hd tv

[TrevorPhillips]

yea me too before god of war 3 releases

[na2ru1]

and it's true. they're friggin awesome

[fergy9901]

I own a 60gig EU launch version, and my console shows the Playstation2 logo when starting a PS2 game. All the videos around the net dont seem to show that.

Does the original 60gig version show the logo too?

Is it because the PS3 is in service mode?
are the videos altered?
..or is it some sort of quirk with software only emulation on a 40gig?

Who knows!

[Cajun Chicken]

The lack of the 'Playstation 2' logo when a PS2 game boots up just made me think that the source of the TV was changed to that of a PS2.

I'm a non-believer on this one, but I believe PS2 emulation WILL come, just not yet, otherwise why would the last few firmwares be sneakily updating the framerates and playablilty of PS2 games playable only on EU 60giggers without SCEE even mentioning it?

[fergy9901]

.. but on most tv's you would get some sort of confirmation of the switch(i.e. scart1, e.t.c).

Unless of course they have hidden that somehow on the video.

[Cajun Chicken]

I'm sure theres probably a gadget just to switch input like those universal game cables for PS2, XBOX and GC in the past.
Thats what it looks like.

[rhood022]

I have a 60gb PS3 connected with an HMDI. Sometimes when playing PS2 games there is no "PS2" image when the game loads. It will just go straight to the game.

[Biphter]

I agree, some games don't show the "Playstation 2" screen, and some do but it flicks on momentarily, much like in the video in this article. Look closely and you can see it flicker on briefly, and to me it looks authentic, or at least how it does behave on some PS2 games running on my Euro 60 Gig launch PS3.

I have a theory in that it has something to do with the way the resolution and scaling settings are coming into effect. it is possibly slower acting on some games and disturbs the screen for enough time to actually skip over the logo. You can see in these videos that the screen is ficking about like crazy before the game loads, at one point the tv looses complete signal momentarily (tv goes blue). I am inclined to believe these vids are real.... I even have an itchy feeling full PS2 emulation is coming very soon to newer PS3's :)

[Sir Ken_Kutaragi]

...and my PS3 plays xBox 360 games to!!! ;-D
(Not that i want any Games off the xBox 360!!!)
Or was it N64 games??? I can't tell the Difference between a xBox 360 game and a N64 game really!!! Both look outdated!!! ;-D

[XPC HARDonE]

your mom looks outdated

;-D

[SSCOOLCHEA]

A fkn kid with momma jokes ....go play halo little kids

[sajj316]

Who here on N4G has a 40GB model and can get their PS3 into service mode? This little nugget of a rumor is killing me!

[Torch]

but I've personally always strongly suspected that it was able to do so, and would actually eventually be enabled by Sony one day...likely if (or when?) Sony ever decides to release PS2 titles over PSN.

Think about it logically: PS3 is proven to be a friggin' beast of a number-cruncher; I reckon it can chew up and spit out even the most demanding PS2 title with utmost ease.

[sajj316]

Exactly ... I will mark the official date Sony stops production of PS2 games. You will see PS2 games through PSN.

[Bleem360]

Well as a long time 360 owner I was really annoyed to find I couldnt play God of War titles when I recently picked up a PAL 80gb PS3.

I just got so used to putting an Xbox game in my 360 and it just worked - I knew PS3 was BC at release but had no idea they had removed it later.

Really let down by that and it's meant I havent bought any of the PS2 titles I wanted to play (ICO, GoW, FF etc) so it's money Sony have lost from me.

[Cajun Chicken]

360 isn't that great with BC either. Most of the classics still haven't been patched to work yet such as Serious Sam 2, Oddworld:Strangers Wraith.
The original Halo has a bad framerate on 360, Armed and Dangerous seriously lowers in performance when using the Jet Pack and I can't hardly hear the ambient music in Oddworld: Munches Oddysee and the lightings a little odd.

Just seems like BC wasn't important this gen.
Its paid off for me to be a early PS3 adopter with the EU 60gb during summer 2007.

[daveoftheproject]

you would think with exponentially more powerful consoes emulating their predecessors wouldn't be that tough, and would be a good way of genereating revenue by having classic titles for download, but sadly this doesn't seem to be the case

[poeo]

i bought one at the last moment when there were still BC models available, i thought it would be the best thing ever.. but one and a half years later, i have not played a single PS2 game. too busy with PS3 games.

but i guess it's good to have, to know it's there if i need it! they really should make it standard feature, if just for convenience. it doesnt make sense that a PS3 plays PS1 and PS3 games, skipping one whole (hugely important) generation of games.. it just looks awful on paper.

[Cajun Chicken]

Agree, the PS3 should be all three Playstations for everyone.
However, I still play PS2 games and check if anything new started randomly working after an firmware update and sometimes, they do.

The Ratchet games just seem to be the ones needing the most ironing out now, they're barely playable, but frame rate has improved slightly from about a year ago.
Jak and Daxter seems to be the only Jak in the series playing up too.

So somethings being worked on internally, I just don't think its anything to do with this.

[dredgewalker]

Do you people know why Sony removed BC on the PS3? Its because people asked for it to be removed by Sony and now people are now clamoring for it to be put back? Make up your minds, plus i dont need to play PS2 games on my PS3 cause i already have a PS2 and it really boggles me that people who owns a PS3 never owned a PS2? I didnt buy a PS3 for PS2 games, i bought it cause of next gen. If you still want it then you have to be patient cause sooner or later production costs will be so low that the PS2 board can be added again cheaply or wait for Sony to release an emulator.

[poeo]

many people's PS2s have broken since buying a PS3. should they really buy a new PS2?

also, it's SO MUCH better to just have one PlayStation console that plays all PlayStation games. having two takes up space etc. don't tell me it doesn't make sense.

[na2ru1]

and they got what they pay for.

[dredgewalker]

How cheap is a PS2 slim and how thin is a slim? (plus i got mine modded..wink..wink)

[dredgewalker]

@poeo
Didnt you just read what i said? PEOPLE ASKED FER THE BC TA BE REMOVED. Plus the PS3 woulda cost $500 if it wasnt removed, and then well hear about people asking for more price cuts! Im not saying having BC is bad.

[Sarick]

I didn't ask for them to remove the BC.

What I said myself was "Sale two versions." One with full BS and features and the economy model that is stripped down. Instead Sony decided to start selling stripped down models with bigger HD's slowly removing BC.

I'm sure that my comments where not even acknowledged but that's how I felt from the start.

[dredgewalker]

@Sarick
Sorry bout that but i dont think Sony can afford to put out a BC unit cause of the economy slump. Plus the BC feature still has a lot of incompatibilities and bugs. I think Sony is doing something in the way of BC so just be patient.

[pixelsword]

The PS3 was originally going to emulate the PS2 for backwards compatibility, but they couldn't get it right, so they stuck the Emotion chip in the PS3 and called it a day.

The problem is that since the emulation software is flawed, it could possibly jack-up your PS3 if you try to hack it and play PS2 games.

[xg-ei8ht]

I gotta ask, why do people still want to play PS2 games?

And to be quite honest, that tv he was playing on was horrid.

He is using sd cable.

No way that has hdmi or component.

[ForROME]

Heres something to think on, You know for a fact, if they through it to some third party to creat emu software, it would be done in 6 months. (Bleem anyone)

SONY is thinking

A) we dont to invest in us doing it

B)We can profit from having only the best PS2 Games as DL content

C) If they made an emulator and sold that for say 29.99 they would recoup their cost they put into engineering the emulator and make everyone happy and those who dont care about PS2 support could skip that option, sounds good to me

What do you guys think?

[fergy9901]

Sony won't release such a feature until the PS2 goes out of production.

[Havocmak3r]

but what you don't see is that he has a 60gb to the right of the tv, and his friend is putting in the disc into the 60gb the sametime. The 60gb is one actually connected to the tv. Therefore I call Shananagens!
Look I know it sucks, but they do have to give the early adopters some credit and they really are trying to drop production cost. At this point guys, buy a ps2 to play your games or go to eBay and buy a BC one or I know Gamestop has 60gb refurbished in stock.
Happy gaming!

[fergy9901]

in that someone is switching to a real PS2.

If someone was simultaneously putting the same disc in a PS3 with BC you'd see the playstation2 logo pop up - which you dont in any of the vids hanging around the net.

Personally, I hope that its true - though I cant see Sony releasing such a feature until PS2 dies.

[Ldubbz]

Shenanagins!! I call shenanagins!! Get your broom!!!

[ForROME]

Havokmak 3r, you really think that?

[micro_invader]

But if you could actually play ps2 games on a 40GB why would Sony be hiding that feature and unlocking it later, shouldn't it be a selling point for the ps3? It doesn't make a lot of sense.

[ginganinja]

that's pretty much the first thing i think of when i hear/see such stories.
Even if they did have some plan to later on release DL PS2 games, there's a lot of PS2 users out there at the minute, thinking about upgrading and the lack of BC is putting them off buying the console altogether.

[ForROME]

I agree with that micro
UNLESS they plan to release PS2 games as DL sellable content, which they would want the emu there, but not accessible

[szkorb]

"The guys behind the following video actually" should buy a new TV...

[JaPo]

Obviously not.

As if a PS3 without emotion engine would be able to play 'all' PS2 games. It's BS, although I hope Sony do release an update after they screwed me over by replacing my 60GB with an 80GB.

[Ldubbz]

I couldnt see any logical reason why Sony would keep this 'locked' if the PS3 could do it already.

Perhaps they are working on some sort of emulation, but thats also pretty doubtful at this point. But if u treasure your PS2 library that much, you should still have your PS2. Of course not needing it would be easier, but its not the biggest of deals.

[xionpunk]

If it's real, why not just pop the xmb up while the game is running?

[Biphter]

whilst a PS2 game is running, but you CAN pop up the PS3 options (memory card management etc)... so good point.

[Doomster1971]

-the uk launch ps3 was software based only not hardware & software combined (like the us version). With that in mind if the uk launch ps3 could do it it stands to reason that the ps3 of today could handle backwards compatibility just as well. Fingers crossed they re-introduce it soon.

[Darkseider]

Yes the Euro versions were software BC but still had one of the two hardware components inside. The software BC units US 80 gig and Euro still had the GS in it but the EE was removed and emulated through software. The current 40/80/160 gig models have neither.

[btmgov]

I never understood why you would want to play old games on a new system anyway. Isn't that why you fork out all that cash for the new system, to be able to experience new games and new technology? When I purchase a new system, I immediately sell off my previous system and everything associated with it. I don't have time to go back and play something old that I have already played when there is so much new stuff out there to check out and enjoy.

[jhani]

Hope it does:)

[jhani]

This might sound a bit crazy..but if Sony in the future released a "usb device" that u could plug into one of the usb ports and u got 100% bc?
I mean they could even earn some money from this thing. Lets say they sell it for 50$? but i honestly think unless they earn something from adding bc for the ps3, they will just ditch it:( especially if they loose money on it.

Still waiting for kz2 though. The winter here in Scandinavia is harsh:(

[indyman7777]

I don't get why people want ps2 compatibility so bad. When you buy a PS3 the PS2 does not stop working. Just don't trade it in for the cheap rip off price (I heard it was $35 dollar at gamestop not confident in the source) Correct me on that is I'm wrong or off a lot. But just keep your PS2 and your cool! If you like xbox(1) games just keep the xbox(1) because I heard you only get $15 for that because it is unsupported. I know you still use the enhanced xbox(1) graphics, but come on some of you don't have the games for it. Because you traded it in already, and will have to buy the download version. So just keep the old stuff your going to get ripped off when you trade it in.

[ACEMANWISE]

The PS3 enhances PS2 games. It allows high definition 1080P upscaling, smoothing, faster loading, and infinite memory card creation. These are things that even the PS2 itself can't do.

On top of that, the PS3 can enhance PS2 games in other ways. Imagine if they ever dabbed in the idea of fixing PS2 bugs or offering PS2 downloadable content. Hmmmm....

[Droid Control]

Sony should be SHOT!

[ACEMANWISE]

I think that Sony has a complete and reliable way to bring backward compatability through a software update. We know that Sony removed the "hardware" components. It will be better than the "software emulation" available now.

I think they removed backward compatability because the PS2 was still selling so well. When the PS2 is exhausted and PS3 hits mainstream then I believe Sony will update the PS3 with a top notch "backward compatability" update.

[Tiberium]

No BC on the new ps3s is just a scheme by sony. They save money with a cheaper motherboard and you have to spend $130 on a ps2 to play their classics. But if I ever decide to buy a ps3, I already have a ps2 so I'm set.

[dolomite]

so....has anyone actually tried this on the PS3 service mode?

[aiphanes]

Why would you even think about it when GOD of war 3 is comming out or FF13 or Killzone 2? Sure it would be cool and sony knows this but how many times do you actually play a PS2 game on your PS3? Just go out on Ebay and get a early PS3...I know people who have gotten early PS3s for around $200 or less...even if it is not a fully working model..just send it in to Sony and pay $150 to have it exchanged for a factory refurb 60 GB PS3...unless sony has run out of those.

[celestialninja]

Maybe it is a marketing ploy from Sony to get you to buy the higher gig that plays more games, by saying the smaller gig will NOT play it. When in reality it will.

[byaaface]

Why the f*ck would sony screw themselves in the ass like that? The answer: THEY WOULDN'T. Anyone who believes this story or even takes it seriously is a retard.

[EntranceDenied]

Stop giving him views, I have proof:

http://www.edepot.com/plays...

"The original PS3 used a motherboard revision of 1-871-868-22. A major revision was made for the PAL territory release (1-873-513-21), which basically removed PS2 Emotion Engine chip and substituted them with software based emulation. For the CECHG and CECHH models, PS2 hardware were completely removed, so hardware allowing even PS2 software emulation was taken out."

CECHG - CECHP are pricecuts PS3. Nice try. I'll post it on youtube too with the same name as in N4G.

[wanderofys]

I keep seeing people say "PS2 and PSOne games"

My 40 gb PS3 plays PSOne games, just not PS2 games. It IS supposed to be that way, right?

[enviable27]

Yes you are correct

[Lumbo]

Funny how in all this fake PS2 on new 40GB vids they a) use very old TV's that most likely don't show a onscreen menu when switching channels, and b) never show how they actually open the controller menu with the PS button

Its a fake, don't give em hits. All the bogus "clues" that people claim like "but but but my 40GB allows me to create PS2 virtual memory cards" are just that, bogus. The vMemory card option is a part of the PS3 FIRMWARE, therefor there is no reason why a new PS3 that has no BC capabilities shouldn't show the option even though it can't play PS2 games. The firmware is the same for all PS3's.

[OrganicMachine]

it's pointless to have it "locked" .. why would they do that if Sony is trying to make an affordable(for them to manufacture) version of the 60 gig?..

I call this one fake..

[galgor]

I'd just like to point out the fact that the background waves are actually moving, and as far as I'm aware you can't have animated backgrounds on the PS3, so it's not custom made with the red box placed there. However I would like to see the video creator do more to prove that it is real, model number on PS3 for example? Make a video where the TV & the PS3 are sitting in the middle of the room where there is no potential for other sources of display?

Just some ideas..