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NVIDIA RTX 5080/RTX 5090 ~1.5x Faster than the RTX 4080/RTX 4090 at Same Settings (W/O DLSS 4)

NVIDIA has officially announced its GeForce RTX 50 series graphics cards, including the RTX 5070, RTX 5070 Ti, RTX 5080, and RTX 5090. There’s a ton of content to sift through, and in this one, we’ll present the sheer hardware performance gains. In other words, the framerates achieved without DLSS 4 or “Multi-Frame Generation.”

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ABizzel1124d ago

I thought this was an update, but it’s the same graphs NVIDIA’s using, and those bars definitely don’t reach the 50% mark. Realistically it’s looking more like 20% - 40% more powerful than the 4000 series w/o DLSS 4 depending on the game.

You should primarily upgrade if you’re coming from the RTX 3000 series or older, or if your favorite games become DLSS 4 compatible.

ZycoFox123d ago

Nothing is value focused, it's either 5070Ti or 5090.. simple as that with the Nvidia cards.

AMD might have a good upper mid range solution, Intel? Not sure, but they're doing ok at entry level at the moment, maybe have something better later.

The only good thing about the 5090 though is that it will likely hold its value quite well for most of the 2 years that it's around.

I don't know what's gonna happen with next gen consoles, probably smaller uplifts than before.. GPUs are just getting more expensive to make.

Elit3Nick123d ago

Bear in mind that the 5000 series has better ray-tracing performance, so realistically, the performance increase would be even smaller without RT+DLSS.

anast123d ago

Miners are rubbing their hands together.

SimpleDad123d ago

Miners want power... this is software fake frames.

QuantumMechanic123d ago (Edited 123d ago )

'NVIDIA RTX 5080/RTX 5090 ~1.5x Faster than the RTX 4080/RTX 4090 at Same Settings (W/O DLSS 4)'

N4G headline is wrong and doesn't convey the content of the article correctly: "50% faster" = "0.5x faster" NOT "1.5x faster"!

Fishy Fingers123d ago (Edited 123d ago )

LOL bro and anyone who agreed with you.

Multiply a value by 0.5 and see what you get and then do the same with 1.5. The latter is the original value + 50%. I hope you dont work in either quatum nor machanics. Jesus christ.

Eonjay123d ago

Thats... actually correct. 1.5x is 150% faster. The headline is also massively misleading because it really is talking about the benchmark of 1 game (Far Cry 6)... and that game is only showing a 25-30% increase. This is actually in line with the the TFlop increase.

Neonridr123d ago (Edited 123d ago )

1x is the same as multiplying by 1. What do you get as your answer? The original number.

1.5x would give you 50% more from the starting number which in this case would be the 4080/4090 values giving you the 5080/5090 values afterwards.

Ultimately I think the title is worded incorrectly since you would just say 50% faster, although mathematically it's correct.

porkChop122d ago

That's just incorrect. 0.5x would be half as fast. 1.5x is 50% faster. 1x would be equal, since 1x1 is 1. The headline is correct.

Killer2020UK122d ago

Semantics lads, twice as fast = 100% faster = 200% as fast.

In this article it's an increase of 50% or if you want to word it differently it's 1.5x or 150% as fast.

What it's NOT, is 50% as fast (half as fast) which is what OP is incorrectly conflating with 50% faster.

QuantumMechanic122d ago

I'm not conflating anything; semantics are everything when stating quantitative information. Everyone here who disagrees with me is flat-out wrong. Performance at the 150% (1.5x) level is 50% faster than the baseline performance. Consider this absurdity: if the headline were instead 'NVIDIA RTX 5080/RTX 5090 ~0x Faster than the RTX 4080/RTX 4090 at Same Settings (W/O DLSS 4)', are you all asserting that the 5-series cards would perform no computations? Of course, the answer is that "0x faster" would mean the 5-series cards are approximately as performant as the 4-series cards. And thus, we arrive at the conclusion that the language of the current headline, as I stated originally, is incorrect! The 5-series cards are, according to the article, ~0.5x faster than the 4-series cards.

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Blaze929123d ago

Should i sell my 4090 for a 5090?

v_eno_m122d ago (Edited 122d ago )

unless you're an early adopters for the latest & greatest, i would like to ask ya what your 4090 can't do that makes you wanna drop that much cash for a 5090?

Blaze929119d ago

I just figured the price I could get it sold for, would make up for the price of the 5090. If I can sell it for maybe $1500, only pay $500 to upgrade - not too bad i guess?

v_eno_m118d ago

@Blaze,
i believe you'll have a tough sell, considering the reports that the 5070 has the same performance of a 4090 @ $549. I get why you would wanna do it. But at the end of the day, it's your GPU and I wish you the best on pursing it. I'm in the same boat as Babadivad, i have a 4090 that i'm happy with, no real reason for me to jump ship.

https://www.pcgamer.com/har...

"During today's Nvidia CES 2025 keynote, Jen-Hsun Huang announced the new RTX Blackwell GeForce GPUs, with the RTX 5070 propping up the new range, offering "RTX 4090 performance at $549."

babadivad122d ago

If you want to. Especially of you can get a good price for it. I have a 4090 laptop and I'm in no hurry to upgrade.

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30 Years Ago, Sega Took Its Biggest Gamble With Saturn And Failed

"That’s not how you launch a system".

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thorstein1d 14h ago

The Dreamcast was the biggest gamble and way ahead of its time.

OtterX1d 14h ago

I wish we lived in the Alternate Timeline where Sega was still a dominant force in the console space and it hadn't been Microsoft.

Deeeeznuuuts12h ago

I've always said this, would much prefer SEGA, such a shame.

blacktiger5h ago

this was all part of the plan to give Microsoft the spot

chicken_in_the_corn5h ago

Would be interesting to see what they would do for a modern console.

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darthv721d 12h ago

Saturn was a fantastic piece of kit... they just went a little too ambitious with its dual CPU setup. which turned a lot of developers off (at the time). The homebrew community have done some amazing work many years later, thanks to multichip experience. It is still the best platform for arcade fighters and shmups of all time. Dreamcast is a close 2nd though.

Profchaos1d 1h ago

Yeah it was a interesting decision especially when looking at how dual CPU is considered a root cause of why the Jaguar was a failure.

Also the hardware rendered four sided polygons where the standard was three if they kept with triangle polygons I feel the systems development would have been easier to work with and we would have seen more third party ports in the west.

I think it was a victim of its time more than anything it saw huge success in Japan but the leadership and internal turmoil in the west meant games were not getting localised along with a focus on arcade like games were the PlayStation and later the N64 were pushing more in depth experiences over coin munching high score driven games.

Knightofelemia1d 10h ago

I still enjoy my Saturn it was the first console I mowed lawns for and saved up for to purchase. I went so far as to purchase a used Saturn to run off an SD card. I even have a second Dreamcast modded to run off an SD card as well.

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NES Games That Hold Up Brilliantly

Unlike most SNL special guests from the 00s, a lot of NES games just do not age.

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How Sony Fixed Their PS3 Launch Mistakes

This is the story of how the creators of the all-time best selling console almost crippled its own successor’s early life.

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ABizzel13d ago

They retired Ken Kutaragi, moved away from overly expensive custom hardware, and went with more traditional hardware available to the market and listened to developer needs.

Profchaos2d ago

It's true but also PlayStation publicly came out and stated third party wasn't important to them.

ironic that what worked for them the previous generation caused them significant pain in the subsequent one.

The PS2 was actually a significant challenge to develop for far worse than the PS1 ever was but the competition at the time was struggling so much they couldn't make up the ground Dreamcast had a stigma of being a last gen console by the time the PS2 came around and looked inferior compared to games like grab Turismo 3, the GameCube and Xbox were still a ways away and PlayStation had the reputation as being the place to play it was a perfect storm for them and the GTA games not coming to Dreamcast and Sony's embrace really helped.

Third party basically drove PlayStation yi success over more capable consoles Xbox may have looked better at the time but it didn't have GTA 3, vc, Sa or the stories games the mainline entries didn't hit the Xbox until many years after being on PlayStation.

Then the PS3 with it's cell architecture ramped it up again and just hurt Devs they didn't focus on the GPU as much as they should have and they didn't realise their deals they made with IBM could have resulted in the cell architecture being shared with Microsoft which it was and it did help them develop the 360

But really the 90s and 2000s were a wild time for game consoles now it's a little boring it's all off the shelf components and everything is mostly the same

gunnerforlife2d ago

After losing so many 3rd party exclusives, they buckled down and concentrated on amazing first party games! God of war 3, Killzone 2, resistance, uncharted, the last of us, MgS4, little big planet, demon souls and so many more games!! They won the gamers back by playing smart! Even though the media and all big gaming websites from ign, gamespot, kotaku etc were all against it!! I had fun with ps2, but it's ps3 where I really grew up and had the time of my life.

BlackCountryBob1d 20h ago

It’s weird to look back on how even today the games media narrative was stuck in 2006 to say it was overpriced and had no games which was outsold by 360 (all incorrect).

In many ways, it’s similar to how the Xbox One was never really able to move past the launch even though after a year or so it was an entirely different proposition (but Microsoft didn’t do nearly as good a job as Sony did to recover IMO).

gunnerforlife1d 2h ago

I'm glad it received the hate from western media! It humbled them quite a lot and forced them to buckle down and concentrate where it mattered most! Games games games!! And they learned a lot from their mistakes with ps3 and they made one of the greatest consoles ever in ps4!!

So true! Where Sony realised their mistakes and corrected everything, MS were either too arrogant to change course or just didn't have the tools/capabilities to correct course and get back to basics! Games games games! Which is sad because with no rival, Sony this generation has stagnated a lot!! This generation is a write off in my books!!!

OhReginald1d 15h ago

I was committed to that whole generation. What turned Ps3 around from being a failure to a success was in 2009 with the releases of the first ps3 slim model with a cheaper price tag, the kevin butler marketing campaign, and a ton of 1st party AAA games that were critically acclaimed and loved by the fans like Uncharted 2 (this was a bigger deal than the first game), Killzone 2 (91 on metacritic), inFamous, LittleBigPlanet (a serious threat to mario at the time), Demon's Souls( it was very niche but the word of mouth and gamespots goty award helped it and helped ps3). The big game everyone that bought a ps3 was waiting for was mgs4 in 2008 and GT5 in 2010. Anyways I think the ps3 was way ahead of its time with the games I mentioned above and breakout hits like the last of us.