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Industry Analyst Argues Either Sony or Microsoft Will Need to Exit the Console Market

One of either Sony or Microsoft must exit the console space, argues analyst group DFC Intelligence. That’s because it believes there isn’t “room for more than two major console systems” and it doesn’t expect Nintendo to go anywhere.

“Sony or Microsoft will struggle mightily in a distant third place – largely depending on which of those companies can gain early momentum,” the report says of hypothetical new hardware, expected in 2028.

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gold_drake157d ago

as things stand right now, theres one struggling in the console space.

but that 3rd place holder, has a 3 trillion dollar backer.

i dont think its as easy to say that one has to "go"

piroh156d ago

They simply can't donate their console forever, they, as any other corporation, want profitable product.

IMO maybe they will try one more time with some console/handheld hybrid since Ninty shows it's success, then it'll be Sega route for them.

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Cacabunga156d ago

It is fine they want to become a digital service provider but the way they are building up the brand is terrible. On the other hand there is nothing that excites us gamers..

Zeref156d ago (Edited 156d ago )

When they sell an Xbox. It's not just about the box. They gained a costumer that will spend hundreds of dollars in the ecosystem. It's the only console that has GamePass as well.

They're not just gonna give up money just because

SoloZelot90155d ago

This is why they're pushing to be more of a platform instead of a console.

Their console business has failed so they're trying to succeed elsewhere.

badz149155d ago

when will people stop blaming Sony for the Pro's price? it has been proven over and over that a PC with similar spec costs way over $1000! do they want Sony to take the losses like they did with the PS3? fro $700, I think Sony has tried their best to cramp as much new tech as they could in the Pro. The main issue with gaming hardware at the moment is the price for GPUs (and CPUs too if you also wanna go there) which are totally ridiculous! the PS5 and Series X aren't getting their permanent price cut yet despite already being in their 4th year but we even saw prices went up instead in several markets! this just shows how bad the pricing for the hardware in the current market. and it's just going to get worse.

AMD have TSMC making all their chips but so do the others. TSMC can only output so much and they also have to continue moving forward in tech thus making older chip models with older architecture in consoles for longterm makes less and less sense. The dire situation we are in is no thanks to no competition in the fab space especially for CPUs and GPUs. Intel was supposed to bridge this gap but is failing even on their own chips and their recovery looks rocky at best as the gap between them and TSMC is just getting wider by the days. until there's another company that can take on TSMC head-on and reintroduce competition in that market, gamers can kiss goodbye to reasonable hardware prices for now.

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Profchaos156d ago (Edited 156d ago )

Having a 3 trillion dollar backer doesn't mean they have an excuse to bleed money indefinitely.

Xbox has never turned a profit it came close in the 360 and would have if rrod didn't happen

They are a business and want to make money at the end of the day is clear they are trying everything to pivot and turn a profit but it's not happening so it's very likely they will become third party

gold_drake156d ago

true

but they have been so far. and if MS hasnt pulled the plug yet, whats to say they will ever do it.

Reaper22_156d ago

They haven't profited on consoles but with games and services they are making a lot of money. Especially for this year which has been very good for them. Hardware sales isn't where the biggest chunk of profits come from. Not even for Nintendo.

crazyCoconuts156d ago

There's gotta be a line somewhere where they say it's not worth it anymore to invest in the next generation. None of us know where that line is, but every year they get closer to it (diminishing sales) and they're acting like they already crossed it.

Zeref156d ago (Edited 156d ago )

Idk how this myth still exists. They have been profiting from Xbox for ages. You think people just buy the console and never buy any games?

neutralgamer1992156d ago

Profchaos

hardware rarely is making profit. These companies make a lot of profit selling sofrware and services. So yes xbox has been profitable for a while now. Hardware is just so consumer buys into the system but than software is where they make great profit

FinalFantasyFanatic155d ago

@neutralgamer1992

The only one making money on hardware is Nintendo, but they build with older, weaker hardware, it works for them, because their exclusives do most of the heavy lifting, plus they also go in a different direction to Playstation/Xbox.

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Zeref156d ago (Edited 156d ago )

Nobody will leave.

All of them are healthy businesses that make billions every year.

Profchaos156d ago

I tend to think they will pivot over and over again until they figure it out.

It's worth remembering that they entered the console market as a direct result on the ps2 and it's ability to run Linux Microsoft saw that as a threat to their home computing operations and the Xbox was a direct response the original Xbox was built by two competing teams in Microsoft the one that won was Seamus blacklys team with a more console like OS abd game first approach thankfully but there was a moment where they almost put out a windows box.

What I'm trying to say is that early 2000s mindset is disappearing Microsoft no longer see game consoles as a threat to home computers.

However now that steam OS is coming they are apparently concerned again that steam OS will eat into their dwindling home computer market so they will be doubling down on a strategy to make pc gamers happy.

All I know is there's strange times ahead

Green-Smurf156d ago (Edited 156d ago )

Split the cost and build 1 gaming console. Independent streaming services and their owned IPs are where the they profit as well as not taking hits on 100% console manufacturing costs. MS has a better OS and Sony has better hardware. Combine the two

crazyCoconuts155d ago

I don't think Xbox has the better OS - it takes up more space and resources if memory serves. I don't know if they kept the Xbox One architecture with the XSX (I'm guessing they did), but that was known for not being efficient at all. PS is Linux based and runs pretty lean - not a hint of Windows

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Lightning77157d ago

Who are some of these analysts exactly? For starters, they both Co existed for a 2 decades. Second yes Hardware wise Sony has it locked down along with 3rd party support and of course their strong 1st part output with games that sell their console strongly, currently and going forward. MS has weak and quickly decreasing hardware sells but has reach with high MAU (this is an Xbox) engagement, and services like GP. Their strategies are different but no way they can't exist suddenly, makes no sense. Stadia didn't last long and got abandoned because gamers rejected a possible 4th platform. The big 3 have always co existed. Their strategies may change and pivots may happen because that's buissness you have to adapt. These analysts makes no sense.

gold_drake157d ago (Edited 157d ago )

to be fair, i absolutely agree with you, but this is about consoles specifically.

not gaming overall.

but i doubt any of those two or three will ever bk down.

Lightning77156d ago

I'm talking about consoles as well. MS of all are questionable. Though they're using services and treating Xbox as a Windows brand by putting Xbox everywhere.

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Extermin8or3_156d ago

One of the three is already transitioning towards being essentially a 3rd party publisher. Microsoft seem likely to potentially even just start releasing essentially custom PC's and maybe even letting other hardware makers release custom hardware pc's with a gaming custom version of windows..... As it is the Xbox OS is basically a custom version of windows 8.

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This New Wild Hunt Release is Hopefully a Sign of What's to Come With Witcher 4

The Witcher 3 released a special item for its 10th anniversary, and it's hopefully a sneak peek at The Witcher 4's launch plans.

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FullmetalRoyale1d 6h ago

The "New Wild Hunt Release" that they are referring to are the controllers, and wanting to see more stuff like special edition controllers for The Witcher 4.

darthv721d 4h ago

I just received the xb controller and while it's nice looking, the packaging was a total fail. An unbranded plain brown box. Not even a themed box like Doom got, or at least a regular looking box. Just a plain brown box.

Oh, and a 10th anniversary sticker in the box too.

FullmetalRoyale1d 3h ago

That sucks about the packaging, I'm glad you like the controller at least. The last controller that I bought I would put back in the box at the end of the gaming session.

CrimsonWing6921h ago

Thanks for saving me a click! Doing the Lord’s work.

FullmetalRoyale19h ago

Didn't want to go that hard, but kinda felt a little baity to me.

Eonjay14h ago

Everything this site does is a bait to absorb ad revenue... we need to reform our submission process. We need a quality litmus test.

Eonjay14h ago

Can we please ban this site?

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The Xbox Game Pass Hot Streak is Getting Ridiculous at This Point

The Xbox Game Pass subscription service has been on a generational roll these last few months, and there really doesn't seem to be an end in sight.

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Obscure_Observer2d ago

Oblivion Remake
Clair Obscur: Expedition 33
Doom: The Dark Ages
Metaphor: ReFantazio

All of those in just 40 days!

I´m not gonna even mention the upcoming day one games for the rest of the year, because its not even fun anymore.

Gamepass is simply the best thing that happened to gamers!

Even more now with games costing $80+ while economy is in the toilet.

neutralgamer19922d ago

I know some people disagree with you simply because of your username and what you have said in the past but here you are absolutely right there is zero doubt that game pass is the best service available especially with the game prices going up

Microsoft owns the most Studios they own the most IP's so they are the biggest publisher in gaming

lukasmain1d 22h ago (Edited 1d 22h ago )

So why aren't GamePass subs growing at any rate worth mentioning? Why do they need Playstation to keep their whole gaming division afloat?

edit: Yes, GamePass is a great deal, a really great deal. That is for sure.

thesoftware7301d 18h ago

Neutralgamer.

Well said, MS got their ass whooped into a working strategy lol. MS will continue to make consoles for the foreseeable future, but they are now capitalizing on what has always been their forte, Software, and platform integrations.

It's kind of similar to Nintendo in that regard, the Wii U did poorly, and made Nintendo rethink the whole console stance, and lean all the way into where the dominated, Handhelds, they consolidated their console and handheld departments and are now stronger than ever.

neutralgamer19921d 18h ago

I never said GP was growing. It's a good service for those who have signed up

lukasmain1d 17h ago

But that's the thing right. If something is so great, then why isn't everyone jumping on board? The vast majority of gamers do not want to subscribe, and it looks like they'll never subscribe for any meaningful length of time. It's just not going to happen. That's clear now I think. Still the best deal in gaming, for those who like it though. Can't deny that.

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anast2d ago

2/4 are above average games. 1 being way above average. The rest are $20 dollar throwaways and that's if you feel you have to play them. No subservice is worth the rental price.

BeHunted2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

OpenCritic and Metacritic

Oblivion Remake - 82
Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 - 92
Doom: The Dark Ages - 85
Metaphor: ReFantazio - 93

What game did you say that's average?

anast2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Scores are given for marketing purposes. There are only 2 games on that list that are actually above average.

Why do people ask questions when they actually are making statements?

neutralgamer19922d ago

Anas

First of all you are objectively wrong according to gamer reviews and media reviews. And 2nd of the all GP is an amazing service if you have the time to play and try different games. It would have been a great service when we were in school. It's great for families on a budget since they can pay one price and their kids can play all sorts of games

As far as for hardcore gamers I signed up years ago and my subscription is ending this year, I will not renew because for me personally it's not worth it since I don't play as many games and I like to buy the games I play. For some weird reason even when I rented from blockbuster (yes I am that old 😁) or gamefly in the back of my mind was always I need to finish it and try something else

We can't deny that MS has the most Studios and IP's under their belt and they have the resources to use them too. Whether that's sequels or remasters like we just got. I think fact is Xbox fans over hype the GP and Playstation fans downplay it. Somewhere in tbe middle is the sweet point

anast2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

@Neutral

Game reviewers are an arm of the marketing team.

Renting is always bad for the customer.

Doom is an average game. Oblivion is a below average game.

Christopher2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Anast, you're flailing here. I would opt out before going further. All of the games are good games, some are just better. Even Doom TDA is over 4.5/5 on PSN store.

Edit: In fact...

Oblivion Remake - 4.66
Clair Obscur - 4.9
Doom TDA - 4.76
Metaphor - 4.74

That's from Sony gamers.

NotoriousWhiz2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

The past few months of xbox game pass have been very good. But how many subpar months were there leading up to this? And how many great games will they have in the future? Game prices are super expensive now but so is xbox game pass and pricing wise, I just don't have the time to play enough games for xbox game pass to be worth it. If they ever release the family and friends package, then maybe.

FinalFantasyFanatic2d ago

You're really reaching here, all of those are good games, I'd happily play any of those for hours, Oblivion might not be that appealing to me, and the new Doom game might be the weaker of the recent DOOM games... But they're still top tier games.

Notellin2d ago

Everything you say is false and misleading.

Lightning772d ago

Never seen anyone who purposely owns themselves with each and every comment you make. Pretty incredible if you ask me.

andy852d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Scores are given because they're good games. Oblivion is 9.3/10 on PS store and very positive on steam. That isnt a below average game in the slightest. Nothing to do with marketing

InUrFoxHole1d 23h ago

Good Lord my guy. I know you dont even believe some of the stuff you type. Instead of reading a comment and getting tight.... Take a deep breath and exit the comment section. You're better than this.

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GhostScholar1d 14h ago

Ridiculous comment……

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crazyCoconuts2d ago

Starting from November of last year to now has been incredible if you're on PC GamePass and a COD player. Seems like all the studios are delivering in the same time frame. I'll keep on for the rest of the year and then take a break for a year or so and let the studios catch up.

raWfodog2d ago

Definitely worth it if you’re a day one purchaser of games, and like to zip through them one after the other. I don’t have that much time these days to spend playing games so I will usually wait until they are on sale for 40% or more. I also don’t play through them quickly hence the reason for my huge backlog.

Sonic18812d ago

I agree but none of these games are exclusives. But I agree with games costing over 80 dollars aren't good for Sony and Nintendo fans

Dudububu1d 20h ago (Edited 1d 20h ago )

You do love embarrassing yourself, no? Yeah yeah reviews are for marketing purposes just like for Sony’s blockbusters or that doesn’t count?! Just stop it!

Profchaos1d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

I think if you take what you play and unless you exclusively play games from the service if you buy what you want from the catalogue you're likely saving money over the course of the year.

After being subbed to gp ultimate for three years I cancelled my service because the value wasn't there I wasn't using it and the only reason i didn't cancel earlier was because i stack it

If you exclusively play games from the service then yeah it'll work out cheaper but my preference will always be buy to own physical if possible

GhostScholar1d 14h ago

The fact that your comment got that many down votes is wild. Say what you want about Microsoft (they waited to long to start making good first party games, the series s was a mess, they abandoned exclusives just when they started making good ones, etc), but to deny the quality of the game pass catalog is just silly and it really highlights the toxicity of fanboyism.

kikii1d 9h ago

@Obscure_Observer
Oblivion Remake
for the love of god its a remaster ^^

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anast2d ago

It's funny they used the red ring of death for the thumbnail. People don't think this stuff through.

smoothdude2d ago

I'll disagree that this service is worth it. I don't play games as quickly as I used to, so I can still buy games when I want to play them and on a sale and come out on top. Steam also allows me to share my game library with my family. That is worth more in my opinion.

So pick your preference at this point, but I'm still making my way through my game library, and the fact that I can play PS5 games on Steam and Microsoft games on steam and share those games is super cool.

GhostScholar1d 14h ago

Game pass users can also share with family…..what are you even talking about ?

gold_drake2d ago

its not xboxs hot streak, its that we've had good games come out lately and ms gave them money to have their hames on the service.

meanwhile, they've been selling like hotcakes on the other platforms.

Petebloodyonion2d ago

And?
Does the notion that the games are available elsewhere diminish the value of Game Pass offering?

gold_drake1d 22h ago (Edited 1d 22h ago )

no absolutely not, but you know i never said that.

but there are reasons as to why they're on gamepass, lets also not forget that

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A First Look at Bravely Default’s HD Remaster on Nintendo Switch 2 - Marooners' Rock

Sarah previewed Bravely Default Flying Fairy HD Remaster at PAX East 2025 on the Nintendo Switch 2—here’s what stood out during her hands-on demo!

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