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Dragon Age: The Veilguard interview: "It was never going to match the DA4 in people's minds"

Robert Purchese: "So where does Dragon Age go from here, and how does BioWare feel about it? As the dust settles, I sit down with two people at the heart of the project - game director Corinne Busche, and series creative director John Epler - for a chat. We talk about the reaction to the game, the making of it, and what, if anything, comes next. Note that there's one major spoiler in here as pertains to the character Varric, and you may consider some other points of conversation slightly spoilery too."

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TheNamelessOne164d ago (Edited 164d ago )

"It was never going to feel like Dragon Age"

Fixed it.

Armaggedon163d ago (Edited 163d ago )

"It was never going to feel like Dragon Age for normie/stimulation junkie players that just play games for the spectacle. True ride or die dragon age fans appreciate this game, because lore wise, this is very dragon age."

There you go, truly fixed it. No need to thank me. People really have to let go of origins, it is the only game in the entire series that has that distinct dark fantasy feeling where everything everywhere is bleak at all times. Bioware games always feel different. Mass Effect 1, 2, and 3 all have almost completely different tones to them.

MeteorPanda163d ago

Inq was dark as well.

This game was too safe and on rails

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Alos88163d ago

You fixed his comment about as well as Bioware fixed Veilguard, so good job. :/
I couldn't stand it. Infantalized dialogue, lobotomized puzzles... it's a miracle the combat actually had any teeth at all on the higher difficulties, and that's about as nice a thing I can say about it.

TL24SS163d ago

You're kidding right? Tell me again what Dragon Age is about? It sure as hell ain't about some dumb woke culture and it sure as hell didn't look like a Fortnite game.

staticall163d ago

@Armaggedon
«Everyone who dislikes what i like are normie/stimulation junkie». That's a very mature approach. What was, according to you, a «spectacle» in previous Dragon Age games?

«because lore wise, this is very dragon age»
It's not. Where's Morrigan child? Where's Architect? Why does Veilguard ignores most of the world state/choices from DAO/2?

[spoiler]
Why they've retconned everything: fade (everyone is willy-nilly in physical form in the fade like it's nothing), dwarfs and magic/posession, black city, etc. They even retconned freaking Loghain, acting like he was influenced by ̶i̶l̶l̶u̶m̶i̶n̶a̶t̶i̶ executioners all along. And like they were this big bad enemy that existed in the shadows, manipulating the world, how idiotic is that?!
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I get that you like the game and it's fine (although, i would argue that, again, i'm seeing you under every Dragon Age Veilguard post here, wouldn't you be busy playing the game you love and praise so much, instead of constant bickering here?), whatever floats your boat (or sinks it). But don't lie here, don't call everyone who disagrees with you names and don't gaslight everyone, by making older games sound worse than they actually are. It doesn't make you look good.

SoloZelot90163d ago (Edited 163d ago )

Um. It could have. The whole "it was never going to" is a defeated and loser mentality.

They completely ignored their main audience. That was the problem. Not any other crap you came up with.

And you're entirely wrong and don't get it either so maybe speak on it. Mass effect 1,2, and 3 are extremely similar in tone and feel.

Dragon age 2...heck your sister dies maybe and your mother dies, the king or whoever gets his head rolling and everything turns to shit at the end...you clearly don't know what you're talking about.

Armaggedon162d ago (Edited 162d ago )

@Meteor panda
People were complaining that inquisition was not dark when it launched, now we want to say its dark? Lets pick a lane and stay in it please. On rails? Just… wow.

@Moodie
I see the flaws in the people that apparently see the flaws in the writing. If I am a kid for appreciating a game that is not oozing with corruption and shock value(cyberpunk, and even Bg3 to an extent) then I guess Im a kid. Better a kid than to be okay with miring in corruption.

@Alos88
I takenit you probably werent a fan of the modenrn god of war puzzles either then. At least this game has puzzles, a rare thing in bioware games. And Im sorry you didn’t like the game. I did not like sleep myth wukong of BOTW and tears of the kingdom, so thats just how it is. And yeah, I did fix the comment, because people are okay with the follow tv show adopting ideas that were not featured in the games that inspired them, but dragon age is a little bit less morbid and everyone is up in arms.

@Tl24ss
The game has one dumb character in it, that doesn’t make the whole game about woke culture. This game does not look like fortnite. If this game looks like fortnite, then BG3 does as well.

glennhkboy162d ago

Mass Effect 1, 2, 3, had somewhat different game mechanic. But the overall story, art design, world view, characters interactions, etc, all stay consistent with one another.

ChiefofLoliPolice162d ago (Edited 162d ago )

Your insane. Please do not speak for TRUE DA fans. You do not speak for us. This is a game identifying as a Dragon Age game but this DAMN SURE ain't one no matter how bad it wants to be one.

Armaggedon159d ago (Edited 159d ago )

@chieflolipolice

I am the true dragon age fan. Lol
Dragon age after origins is about the lore and mysteries. If you dont know that then you arent really that big of a fan. Jackdaw, Darth sahdie lavellan, saria, The kingdom, these are some of the biggest dragon age nerds of all time, and they are all about the story lore and mystery. Somebody that wants to be stimulated by a pretty cutscene when they pick option A over b is not a dragon age fan, they are a traditional rpg fan. Someone that wants a character to quote philosophy when or be edgy with unrealistic writing when something happens, is not a dragon age fan. Difference. Origins is the only one of the 4 games that did not really delve or mess too much with the lore. Definitely not as much as 2 and inquisition.

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Armaggedon162d ago (Edited 162d ago )

@staticall

Your missing the point. Alot of these people that talk trash about veilguard, champion other games that they like because it gets their dopamine's firing( I know, as I have been collecting data on all of you for a very long time now). The provocation is a way to get people to think, to be a bit more self-reflective. People keep complaining and placing blame when something isnt the way they want it to be, instead of examining themselves and saying”Gee, maybe if I dont like the game, I should just go play something that does meet my interests, instead of sending a tsunami sized ripple effect wave through the system that literally effects peoples lives.

“Wheres morrigans child, what about the world save states?” Are people so unreasonable that I really have to explain this to them? Do people really expect Bioware to follow through so many possible permutations all the way to veilguard? Then what about the next game? And the next? Each time it compounds on itself. Without EDI or even harbinger on the job, that is alot of crunch your asking from people just trying to get through their jobs. Are they your slaves? Must they do everything just as you say? perhaps my maturity isnt the one you should question. Also, Im not gaslighting anyone, its a lesson in perception. Some of you think ME 1-3 had a consistent tone throughout, where as I do not, and it is vice versa for dragon age 2-veilguard.( Keep in mind Mass effect is my favorite series so) I could go complain about the new zelda games making huge changes to the formula and even the lore. But I know the score. Not every game is for me. It is also immensely interesting how that is one of a dozen examples of a game series that has almost completely terraformed its approach, yet it receives adoration for it. People are amusingly confused creatures.

@solo zealot

Its a defeated mentality for someone who iw willfully lacking in understanding. The game has strong critical standing, even more so than your game of the year candidate sleep myth wukong, so Bioware is not standing from a loser perspective. Despite the tumultuous cycle they endured, they made it through and put out a solid game. They did not ignore their main audience. Dragon age lore nerds are haing a field day right now playing that game. The people that support bioware by buying their collectors edition, books, and merch, and the ones that support them even when they "mess up"... those are the audience. Not people who have been complaining about everything they do at all times, and will drop them to go play Metaphor or some other game on a whim, . And trust me, I know exactly what I am talking about. Mass Effect and dragon age are my favorite games series of all time. You will find my presence on many theory videos and discussions regarding these games. There is an extremely good chance that I have gathered more intel on these games than you have, so be careful. The head rolling king was viscount dumar by the way. And Veilguard has some dark moments as well, though I will not share them for spoiler purposes.

ChiefofLoliPolice162d ago

And then they wondered why it bombed...

Yui_Suzumiya159d ago

But officer, I swear she's an 800 year old fox demigod 😁

LordoftheCritics164d ago

Is this the Eurogamer 10/10 damage control?

Armaggedon163d ago

I mean they are right. Its virtually impossible to land a project at the right time to appeal to the gaming audience, as they are chaotic and ever shifting in interest. I still remember the criticisms for inquisition. The developers addressed those issues, and now people are saying they liked inquisition better, for the same reasons they criticized it for. Lmao

Alos88163d ago

It isn't impossible at all, and gamer's tastes aren't changing, they just want good writing and characters, not embarrassing self insert nonsense the devs use to act out fantasies of arguing with their parents (and still somehow managing to come across as the less sympathetic party even in those scenes.)

SoloZelot90163d ago (Edited 163d ago )

I guarantee you that you're misrepresenting people's criticisms. Hard to be more specific since you weren't.

My criticism of inquisition is that choices aren't as great as in previous games and the open world is barren and boring. Fetch quests suck. My criticisms likely haven't changed.

Armaggedon162d ago (Edited 162d ago )

@Alos88

See, I have been gathering intel on gaming audiences for a good long time now. I have observed so many 180s that it has turned me into an owl. Gamers want something specific that is in their head, and if that expectation is not met, then curtains. Peoples tastes are certainly changing, as I am watching technology adapt itself to keep the attention of people who are honestly overstimulated. My friend just a few days ago said, "why am I getting a spiderman 2 tutorial 40 hours into the game on ultimate difficulty?" Things like this exist to compensate for the player base not possessing the attention spans that they used to. Its not all players fault, but thats where the situation stands. And this is just one variable of many that can pinpoint how gamers are indeed changing. If they werent, giant companies and studios that literally gather our intel would not keep "missing the mark". In short: Too many variables to contend with.

@SoloZelot90

And I enjoyed every "fetch quest" why? Because most of them led you to some lore implication, some question of something that you have been told in the games storywise. Those I call normies glance right past that. Same thing with BOTW and Tears of the kingdom. To me, the open world exploration was meaningless because everything I found that was cool was going to break anyway. To true zelda fans like Zeltik, Monster Maze, etc, they licked up every little activity in those games, because they were truly engaged in the lore and the world of zelda. And I like zelda games, just not the new ones. But those guys are on a completely different level in terms of dedication and adoration for the series. Perspective my friend.

ChiefofLoliPolice162d ago

Your entire comment is the EXACT kinda mindset problem we talk about.

Armaggedon159d ago (Edited 159d ago )

@chiefoflolipolice

Lol . I used to think that at some point honestly , but people have unwittingly helped me to not doubt. 9/10 times I go through this cycle of discussion with people, I end up right in the end. And thats because its the truth. The truth will manifest itself regardless.

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MeteorPanda163d ago

So you doubled down and just made itva overly friendly safe game?

Noskypeno144d ago

It's ok in doses, not everything has to be some depressing dark game. I don't want a game like Halo that has a theme of hope be mixed with something like Last of us where it just seems like everyone is just waiting for the last person on earth to die. I like both games, but sometimes I like MCU type of humor, speaking of which has existed since at least the early days of Hollywood and was popular in lots of Spielberg movies but somehow it's become a problem since social media made everyone into being a snob and not allow people to enjoy simple feel good stuff.

MeteorPanda143d ago

Sure, but this entry was a conclusion to the dragon age series, it has been insulting in all lve seen of it.

MeatyUrologist163d ago (Edited 163d ago )

Biggest disappointment of the year imo. Had high hopes as some of the preview gameplay looked good, but the writing and story was laughable and childish and the combat and spongey enemies got boring after like 2 hours. Not a real D.A. fan but it definitely didn't feel like one to me.

TL24SS163d ago

If they released this game as a non-Dragon Age titled game, it's a decent game for sure.

But it sure as hell ain't Dragon Age, I played and beat it, it's not a bad game at all. It just isn't what we've grown to love as Dragon Age.

MeatyUrologist161d ago

Kinda disagree. I'm not a DA fan and was just hoping for a solid action RPG. It really has no single standout feature to draw me in or keep me playing. I'd give it like a 5-6 out of 10 but there are so many other games i would rather play (and replay) over it, i will likely never touch it again after 5-6 hours in.

DankSinatra163d ago (Edited 163d ago )

N4G commenter's yet again showing who they are when they use buzz words like woke lmao. Go back to daddy asmongold.

But seriously, everyone on this website seems to think that it's the center of gamings voice when in reality it's such a small echo chamber that doesn't even make up 1% of the gaming community.

jambola163d ago

literally one other person used that word

but i guess actually responding directly is too hard, might as well keep it away from them to avoid any actual confrontation huh?

DankSinatra163d ago

Go to any of the stories involving this game and the comments are using the word woke left and right lmao.

lukasmain163d ago

Majority nearly in every forum don't like it. That's what it seems like. Go to youtube, IGN. Majority don't like the direction it's gone in and it's obvious.

DankSinatra163d ago

Literally the majority you're speaking of is not even close to the current sales figure of the game itself. People need to realize that the gamong community doesn't exclusively live on internet forums.

lukasmain163d ago

The sales figures are terrible when you factor in the very long development cycle and the overall budget of the game. It is nowhere near close to making it's money back. They're even too ashamed to release exact sales figures. Rumors state it has on'y barely crack 1 million. That is extrememly terrible for a nexpensive game like this. I wouldn't say it's a flop, but it certainly is not a success. Not even close. They'll never make back their development and marketing budget for this game.

TheNamelessOne163d ago

I mean, most of the games that people are out there calling games "woke", well, most of them seem to fail financially; with Dragon Age Veilguard looking unlikely to even recoup the cost of development. Not for years, anyway.

So, if what you're saying is correct, the supposed vocal minority seems to be largely dictating gaming at the moment. While the supposed majority don't seem to buy games in the first place.

DankSinatra163d ago (Edited 163d ago )

Most as in 3 or 4 games? Any game that has 5 minutes or more of something that makes someone uncomfortable is deemed woke these days. literally veilguard has 1 mission and less than an hour of focusing on a character who does all the pronoun shit and the whole game is called woke.

Ever hear the term those who yell the loudest?

TheNamelessOne163d ago (Edited 163d ago )

@dank

You also mean (and it's a bit more than 4) games that have released in only the last few months that could be said for this?
And Veilguard's negatives don't sit purely in the woke category. The fact that everything from the tone, to the tactics, to player's agency over how their character reacts to the world, has all been sanitized and highly dumbed down from past entries in the series, or by the standards of most proper RPGs, in general.

"Ever hear the term those who yell the loudest?"

Both sides of the 'woke' argument are pretty damn vocal. Just, you know, only one side actually buys and plays games. The other side just plays social media.

jambola163d ago

you said yet again, in the comments for this article
you don't get to pretend you were talking about other comment sections

DankSinatra162d ago (Edited 162d ago )

I said "yet again" for "N4g commenters" But I don't expect you to read beyond what you want to see.

jambola162d ago

yes, you're not responding to what i said, do you have trouble reading
when you respond to an article and say "yet again" it obviously implies it's happening here

DankSinatra162d ago (Edited 162d ago )

You're either backed into a wall and don't want to admit your wrong or stupid at this point. Why would I imply that it's only happening again specifically HERE in this comment section? Especially when I reference N4G commenter's as a whole? If you cant connect those dots then I'll go ahead and say you're stupid.

jambola162d ago

now you're blatantly lying or can't read
I never said "only" here specifically
I said that your comment implied that it was happening here, which it wasn't
is that too difficult?

MeteorPanda143d ago

Asmon played the game, are you one of these reddit fools who hear what asmon does from others and not him directly?

DankSinatra142d ago (Edited 142d ago )

No, i draw the conclusion that he focused on literally 3 hours of the 50 hour game much like skill up did in his review and made a big deal of it based on personal political views. If any of you who are bitching about the game actually played it, you would know that what most big youtuber/twitch players are crying about makes up not even a third of it.

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Alex Hutchinson on Why Google Stadia Failed and What Cloud Gaming Needs to Succeed

Alex Hutchinson talks about Google Stadia, how Xbox compares, and what cloud gaming needs to move forward.

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Goodguy011d 5h ago

Cloud gaming still has too many flaws. Fast stable internet, extra costs/subscription services, not ideal for mobile data and why play over cloud via wifi when you have a console/pc that has no input delay and other issues, why buy a game on a cloud service (will always need online even if it's a single player game) when you can actually own it on console/pc...at the same price. Cloud gaming should only ever stay as an option to gaming and playing your games that you already own. Never as the only option.

Tacoboto6h ago

I disagree, in the sense that the flaws are and have been these same known quantities for some time. You know you need fast and stable internet for the best experience. You know it isn't just free beyond Remote Play. Ownership - you know what ecosystem you're in.

Cloud Gaming is awesome when it's there as the most viable option at the time and works. For me, it was like this morning on my laptop playing Pentiment waiting for my car service to finish. For others it's to quick demo a new game before thinking of hard drive space. Maybe Mac users with gigabit internet want to play GeForce Now and buy a game off Steam only to play it that way.

isarai22h ago

As long as latency exists, cloud gaming will never thrive no matter how much they advertise that there's low latency or no latency that always ends up being a load of crap

Terry_B14h ago

I will never support cloud gaming.

darthv7214h ago(Edited 14h ago)

I quite enjoy cloud streaming now. I find it the quickest way to testing if a game is worth committing download time or even $ to buy it. And using dedicated devices like the portal and gcloud makes it all the better.

But like Goodguy says... it's an option, and not the only one. If people understand that, they may start to appreciate this convenience.

lex-102011h ago

I think Xbox is doing Cloud Streaming right, even if I think its only because they're doing hardware wrong.

By enabling xCloud on The Xbox One and Series S they enable players to buy the cheaper console but play games in better resolutions through xCould.

Take the recent Oblivion release for instance. If you play it locally on a Series S it's rendered at 630P and upscaled using FSR to 1260P with a 30FPS cap.

But if you play it on xCloud on the Series S, it's at 1080P native 60 FPS.

So you can get better performance using xCloud then playing local (on the Series S and Xbox One).

CrimsonWing6913h ago

It shouldn’t have required a subscription service. Like do the Steam model and just take the % on software sales or have a sub tier where you pay monthly or annually and get perks.

I’m not opposed to the idea of being able to stream games in the highest quality, but Stadia was so poorly handled it turned into a massive sh*t show.

lex-102011h ago

"It shouldn’t have required a subscription service."

It didn't

"Like do the Steam model and just take the % on software sales or have a sub tier where you pay monthly or annually and get perks."

That's literally what it was. Stadia pro gave 2 free games a month (similar to PS+), 4K visuals, and 5.1 Surround Sound. But if you didn't want to pay you could simply buy the games and play them in 1080P. The core service was free.

But google massively screwed up the marketing which led to people thinking it needed a sub to use.

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Jade Raymond Has Left Haven Studios, The PlayStation-owned Studio She Founded

Veteran producer Jade Raymond has left Haven Studios, the company she founded in 2021.

According to a new report by Bloomberg, Raymond – who rose to prominence after producing Assassin’s Creed and executive producing Assassin’s Creed II, Assassin’s Creed: Bloodlines and Watch Dogs – has left her studio, which is still in the process of developing online shooter Fairgames.

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Obscure_Observer2d ago

Jesus Christ man...Unbelievable!

I can´t believe that Playstation Studios can´t manage to develop and deliver ONE single successful high quality first party LS game throughout the whole current generation!

Hermen Hulst needs to be fired ASAP! He´s Jimbo 2.0!

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S2Killinit1d 23h ago

Sure buddy. Don’t forget, we have everything you have, but more. 😝

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Lightning771d 22h ago

Can you stop the fanboying for 2 seconds? Seriously this deflecting and ignoring everything that's going on with Sony's first party the past few years is frustrating and ignorant. You know there's others who have a PS also and want Sony's best like we use to get right? Stop trying to ruin it for everyone else with side steps. Not this BS deflecting that you ppl constantly do.

Besides HD what other LS game thrived so far? Has Herman made good buissness choices and decisions when it comes to LS yes or no?

Start questioning PS Studios.

S2Killinit1d 20h ago (Edited 1d 20h ago )

@Lightning
Fanboy? You talking about me, or yourself? We got alt guy over here with his brand new account burning up from rage, and you are asking me stop “fan boying”?

Sony have at least 3 first party heavy hitters coming up, that we know of, and its not like we are lacking in exclusives department.

As to LS, they had Helldivers, and GT7, both were resounding success. They had a complete flop in concord. Not sure why you think we need to be concerned. They are destroying the competition and that market share translates to games.

Lightning771d 20h ago

"Fanboy? You talking about me, or yourself?"

What's are you talking about how am I a fanboy? Those alt counts will be gone nobody will see them anyway.

I wouldn't call Marathon a heavy hitter and Yotei yes definitely. However they do have DS2 I just feel like there should be more. We all know why there isn't more.

They only have two LS HD as I mentioned and I totally forgot about Grand Turismo. Only 2 While canceling Twisted Metal and Spiderman LS. Who knows the quality at least those games sound compelling.

Btw MLB isn't a live service its a Yearly released sports game.

DodoDojo1d 18h ago

Only one LS flop? Were just going to ignore all the canceled LS games that were in development for years? Ok then.

Reaper22_1d 18h ago

More? Oh, you must mean Concord.🤭

darthv721d 14h ago (Edited 1d 14h ago )

@S2... does that mean you are thankful for XB games? Who'd of thought MS helping to keep PS [only] fans fed during these trying times.

S2Killinit1d 14h ago (Edited 1d 14h ago )

@Lightning
you womt call it a heavyhitter? Really, interesting. There is also intergalactic. Sonyes there will be more.

@darth
Why would I complain about xbox exclusives being playable on PlayStation? I mean xbox really didnt have a lot throughout the years but that doesnt mean they didn’t have anything at all. I normally dont like bro-dude games with bulky dudes, but I may actually play gears of war if just to try it. (Assuming the games arent too outdated at this point)

Redgrave1d 9h ago

Listen,

I am as Sony bred as they come, never owned an Xbox of any kind, Playstation first and foremost even over Nintendo, and a PS+ Premium member. I have put 90% of my gaming time into the past 4 generations of Playstation since the PS2.

Sitting here presently, I find myself asking why I bought a PS5 instead of going PC. I can't think of one single game put out exclusively for PS5 by Sony that has made me glad to have the console.

There have been third party games, like FF7 Rebirth and Expedition 33 that have given me the "hell yeah" feeling about the purchase, but nothing Sony has done. It's been either remasters, the Last of Us again, or attempted Live Service slop that nobody asked for and either couldn't even make it to the table or died out as soon as it did.

There's no true "it" game. Returnal, GoW Ragnorok, and Horizon are all good games, terrific even. But are they truly system seller worthy?

If this direction continues onwards as blaring as it has been, I can't see myself getting a PS6. Ps+ is extremely expensive for no real reason, at $230 + tax for tier that pumps out classics that are more hit than miss. Remasters outnumber exclusives 10 to 1, and we have another Concord game that will likely fair exactly the same and just have been several years of improperly guided directions away from what put Sony on the map in the first place. Buying Bluepoint and sticking them on a live service God of War game? How can you defend that kind of decision making?

We don't have "anything you have" and more. It sucks just as much on PS as Xbox because WTF are we paying all this money for? I haven't seen the monthly offerings surge in quality since the last two psn price hikes and I already brought up Premiums current state. To get games nobody asked for or wants? To be PC port playtesters?

None of us are eating good except PC users, and for them it actually pays to be patient.

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VenomUK1d 16h ago

Sony helped finance Jade Raymond to set up her own studio, then bought it. So even though Haven has yet to release a single game, whatever happened she's made millions. Not bad!

Sonic18811d 17h ago

What about Helldivers 2 🤔

crazyCoconuts1d 15h ago

I don't really care about LS, but the overall output for the last 1.5 years has dropped dramatically, along with the transparency on what teams have teed up. Sounds like a mess over there.

Sonic18811d 14h ago

Blame Jim Ryan for Fair Games

kayoss1d 14h ago

That's rich coming from you. An xbox lover but yet support a console that havent develop and deliver ONE single successful High quality first party game throughout its entire two generations of consoles.

Aloymetal1d 13h ago

Bingo!
The nerve on these green fanatics. They have a weird sense of reality.

Obscure_Observer1d 11h ago

"An xbox lover but yet support a console that havent develop and deliver ONE single successful High quality first party game throughout its entire two generations of consoles."

Hmm... Not from what I been seeing and hearing from actual Playstation players and Playstation Store sales stats.

MIDGETonSTILTS171d 14h ago

Helldivers 2 is a massive success, and you’re ignoring it.

And, when the competition doesn’t bring anything to the table themselves, a handful of games like Helldivers 2 and Returnal are enough to win the competition.

You can’t win a console war if you don’t compete with games. Xbox lowered the bar for Sony, and I blame Xbox for that.

SCW19821d 13h ago

She leaves every studio she goes to before a single game is released. Do some research

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Lightning772d ago

Yeah hate to break it to you Sony but I think they need to shelve their LS efforts almost all together. They formed LFG ex Bungie guys and making another LS but I don't have much hope for it anymore. Marathon is quickly getting overshadowed by Arch Raiders, We all know what happened to Concord.

Only solution I can think of is have 3rd party like a Arrowhead make them a LS game. Speaking of AH their next project is completely funded by them so it won't be from them. I just think it's a good idea that they seek a 3rd party for LS. They'll save time, money and won't take time away their SP efforts. Which is suffering immensely this gen due to all this LS.

S2Killinit1d 23h ago

Wait we are writing off games that arent even out yet?

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Lightning771d 22h ago (Edited 1d 22h ago )

It might come out it might not. Sony said they're still pushing the project. That's a good thing. Even if it does come out will it be any good? There's too many questions and hurdles surrounding the LS.

Bigger question when are we gonna see it? Will they have a PS showcase or State Of Play? Grubb said Sony was debating whether to have a showcase, SOP or anything.

I sure hope they have a showcase or something in the coming weeks. I want Sony first party and their teams not just Xbox events and shows basically saving the damn day at this point.

Of all the companies it's freakin Xbox that's doing it. Who'd a thought.

S2Killinit1d 21h ago (Edited 1d 21h ago )

Look at alt guy with 3 comments history over here.

Desperate.

Johnh52231d 12h ago

Playstation its ok you have more xbox games to play :)

Loktai1d 11h ago

All those games were already on PC anyway. They're only so easy to port because PlayStation has literally copied Sonys architecture for multiple generations, just worse / corners cut (XBSX still doesnt have the fill rate of a base PS5 due to clocks, and it shows)

Sonyslave32d ago

Live services games are hard to make & and even harder to make if you trying to create an original game.

Just copy and past succesful gaas or gacha games with their anime license they can easy make a overwatch or geshin impact clone.

DarXyde1d 17h ago

This is actually good advice.

Not that I condone live service games, but if they're trying to succeed, this is sound.

Miraak82 1d 14h ago

I think they should use some of their Ips to test the waters instead of creating something from the ground up , I think something LittBigPlanet would be I good contender but instead of DLC they just put out new Pass ever few months with new costumes,building materials and developer created content . Warhawk could be a good contender for a battle royal . The reason HD2 2 succeeded was because it wasn't directly competing with anything else.

goken1d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

Not necessarily… MiHoYo have quite consistently successfully hit it out of the park.
Fate Grand order is a LS game is even owned by Sony.

Sony needs to stop with the arena shooters and get creative

Inverno1d 7h ago

Its funny how the excuse is always "games are hard to make". Sure on a technical level they take weeks/months/years, but ideas aren't all that hard to come up with, nor hard to figure out that they might not work well as a games concept. That's why they prototype these ideas. What's weird to me is how so many service games go into development for years and no one seems to come to the conclusion that it's turning out bad. That and how slow devs are these days. You watch docs on game development on older games and devs talk about figurine out mechanics in just a few days. Now it takes a dev a year to texture something.

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jjb19812d ago

Somebody will get it done at some point. Its only a matter of when.

gold_drake2d ago

people said that about other consoles too, we'll see

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