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Indiana Jones and the Great Circle only comes with one disc, requires additional mandatory download

There is no point in talking and bragging about video game preservation and backwards compatibility if there is no real option for gamers to get the full game on one media. Xbox is one of the companies that has done the best on the digital side, making it possible to play all the games from previous generations on the latest Xbox Series. But their physical release policy is just the opposite.

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isarai146d ago

Didn't MS just say they won't forget about physical players? Guess that was a lie

Rockstar145d ago

If it came out of good guy Phil's mouth you can assume it's a lie right away

darthv72146d ago

Seeing as MS do not use the 100gb UHD media, this was expected. Even with two 50gb discs it still would not be the full game. PS5 will also likely ship with the same limitation even with a UHD disc in the case as the total size of the game exceeds 120gb.

The disc is the key and can be reused unlike a key on a piece of paper that can only be used once.

PhillyDonJawn145d ago

Even with 100hb disk it wouldn't fit on 1 disk

jznrpg145d ago (Edited 145d ago )

PS5 has compression so it could fit on one disc if they use it. If they don’t put it all on one disc for PS5 I’ll definitely skip it

darthv72145d ago

you are thinking the system compression (kraken)... Im talking about the disc media itself. Even if they were to compress the data for install it would still be more than a single UHD. So rather than waste a disc... they will only put the bare minimum on it and make you dl the rest. This is a common practice this gen.

franwex145d ago

Do you mean if it’s multi disc you will skip it, or if it requires a huge download to play as they didn’t include the entire game on disc?

neomahi105d ago

I'm returning mine after hearing about this. No deal

BehindTheRows145d ago (Edited 145d ago )

PS5 is better at compression than the Xbox, so it shouldn’t ship that.

Only the Forbidden West DLC was a cause of two discs and even that was just 121GB total.

darthv72145d ago

Im not talking about the hardware compression... we are talking about the disc media. The game will not fit on a single 100gb UHD. It would need either 3 50gb one for XB and 2 100gb ones for PS or they will do the same for Ps like they did for XB which is just a key disc that has the bare minimum and you dl the rest.

BehindTheRows145d ago (Edited 145d ago )

Um, data is compressed to fit on storage medium. That's.....always how it's worked. No, I'm not talking about Kraken. Audio files, as an example, are compressed to fit more of it (data) on a medium.

PS5 is in a better position for this IF they can (and want to) compress said data further (this is how the 360 vs PS3 worked for multiplats and one of the things Sony was praised for during that era). The system still works with the disc to compress the data as it is written to the drive (unlike the past, a nice chunk of the game is installed on your system and requires an internet connection to do so). We've seen plenty of examples of games having bigger installs on Xbox. That's what I am talking about. Not all installs are created equal, even if it's the same game.

isarai145d ago

Darth, it is compressed on the disc aswell when they use it. That's literally the whole point of the compression.

darthv72145d ago

what i am ultimately saying is that regardless of the media used, the game will not be the complete game. not on XB and not on PS. This isnt about compression or anything of the sort. its about them just using a key disc. Bethesda is not going to make the PS disc any different than the XB one.

BehindTheRows145d ago (Edited 145d ago )

Someone who gets it!

Yes, it IS about compression. That's how data works, on any medium. Of course the disc won't house the FULL game regardless of the console it's on, but data will still be compressed on it and the larger the disc, the more that can be compressed, reducing the need for multiple.

franwex145d ago (Edited 145d ago )

I believe what you’re stating is that Bethesda is famous for shipping a disc with like 500mb regardless of disc available and the download will be required for all systems. The disc is essentially a key to access the data on the hdd.

Yes. I agree. Regardless if it’s on PS5, or Xbox to Bethesda it doesn’t matter what disc the console uses because they will only use portion of the disc. They would probably ship it in a regular CD if they could.

Also most publishers are like this. There’s only 3 multi disc games on PS5 anyway and I believe 1 on Xbox.

neomahi105d ago

But when something gets shut down, it's all useless. StarCraft 2 was the first lesson we learned with this.

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OtterX145d ago

I mean, it's the Great Circle, not the Great Circles, therefor it is one disc.

OtterX145d ago

Yea, I nearly apologized right away. I refuse to though. 3 kids now, the Dad jokes are strong w me. 💪😆

exputers144d ago

Ridiculous. Take my upvote.

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Giga_Gaia145d ago

The game just doesn't seem very good anyway.

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Indiana Jones and the Great Circle Was the Best-Selling Game in the US Following PS5 Launch

Executive Director & Video Game Industry Analyst at Circana (NPD) Mat Piscatella has revealed the PS5 version of Indiana Jones and the Great Circle boosted sales for the game to number one in the US for the week ending April 19.

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dveio1d 8h ago

First and foremost, this must be great for the folks at Machine Games. Well done & congrats!

Obscure_Observer1d 2h ago

Xbox making BIG money out of Playstation nation this year!

Oblivion Remaster is already the third biggest release on PS5 this year! Only behind (so far) of Monster Hunter: Wild and Assassins Creed Shadows!

Shadow Dropped!
Zero Marketing!
Instant Success!

Profchaos1d ago (Edited 1d ago )

So is Sega these days.

Funny really you make a good game and make it available for sale and people buy it. What a world we live in

northpaws1d ago

Still this argument? Lol.

The truth is the Xbox division cannot even survive without PS now, not the other way around.

Obscure_Observer13h ago

@Kornholic

"It's a shame that Xbox players don't respect games and game culture enough to support them."

You should take your concerns to the devs who gets fat checks upfront and supports Gamepass with their games in the first place, not the gamers. Gamepass is not for free, you know?

I pay, they provide. It´s simple as that. I´ll enjoy my games on Gamepass for as long as I can. I´ll support the games that aren´t available on Gamepass as well, but I refuse to be ripoff by a company like Nintendo and their insanely overpriced products. My money! My rules!

@MrDead

"You should be thanking the people that keep the industry alive by buying games, the fact that MS tried to ban multiplatform publishers from their biggest console market is detrimental to the industry."

Now they´re making games and making big money out of everyone and your lame rhetoric was destroyed.

And yes, you´re right. Xbox gamers should thank PC, Nintendo, Mobile and Playstation gamers for support Xbox gamers while funding and making those games available to us day one and making XGS a better, more profitable and financial stable for Xbox developers.

Kornholic22h ago

Since the majority of Xbox players absolutely REFUSE to buy and pay for games, it wouldn't be even possible to make these types of big budget games without releasing them on PS5.

It's a shame that Xbox players don't respect games and game culture enough to support them.

ThinkThink2h ago

If I'm supporting the game and studio by paying for it via gamepass, I'm not also going to buy the game on top of that unless it is about to leave the service and I want to finish it. That would be like subscribing to Netflix while going out and buying Stranger Things box set on bluray.

MrNinosan22h ago

Playstation making BIG money out of Xbox nation this year.

Zero work, zero costs, zero risks... just collecting gold.
Just like with Sega and other big third party studios 🙌

dveio21h ago

And it's not just that 30% cut only.

Imagine if there's just one person saying:

"Mmmh, Indiana Jones is now on PS5. I just wanted to buy a new console. Oh, look here, Forza on PS now, too? Oh, what's that - Death Stranding 2 only on PS5? I guess I'm gonna get a PS5 then."

These are the decisions that lead to quarterly financial reports seen in the last one.

When Playstation made almost double the revenue of what Xbox did, with increased, even record hardware sales and profits.

It's not just that "30% cut".

lukasmain1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

Yes and some people don't seem to understand, the more consoles Playstation sells (because more people choose PS5 because of this), even more money they make because these people don't just buy these Xbox games on our console, they buy ALL 3rd party games across the board and Sony gets money from ALL of them. Sony is making a killing even more now. Some people don't realise just how much of a big massive WIN this is for Sony, now that MS put their games there. Just more 3rd party games that Sony gets a big fat chunk from. More games for all the users to choose from and Sony just sits back, on top of releasing their own games and the 2nd party games too. Sony is laughing. MS is laughing. Playstation gamers are laughing. Xbox gamers get what they've always had, their GamePass to continue unimpeded.

But they dont get Sony's games and we get all theirs, that's the kicker lol

ravens5216h ago

Bro. 🤦🏾. This ish isn't embarrassing to u??

MrDead16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

You should be thanking the people that keep the industry alive by buying games, the fact that MS tried to ban multiplatform publishers from their biggest console market is detrimental to the industry.

Thank you gamers for buying this game and slowing down MS's mass layoffs and market manipulation is what you should be saying here.

raWfodog13h ago

That's a weird take on it since Oblivion was also released on PS3 back in the days, but okaaay. We know what you're trying to do LOL.

It's really no surprise that a publisher is taking advantage of available platforms to release their games on. I mean that's what EA, Ubisoft, and Activision (before becoming Xbox Games) have always done. It's poor business decision otherwise. This just means that Playstation is the best place to have access to all of the great games.

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Jigga691d ago

Now that Xbox fanboys have accepted that xbox games will be released on PS5 (and Switch 2), Microsoft will be able to release them on Day one from now on. Just had to get people to swallow the pill.

dveio23h ago

I really gotta say I am a bit curious about E-Day.

With hardly any sales anymore, wether hardware nor software, probably not even subscriptions in a quantity they would want to have:

Is Spencer going to pull the trigger and bring Gears D1 on Playstation?

raWfodog13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

Yeah, it's funny how some Xbox fanboys thought it would be a cold day in hell before Xbox first party games would ever release on PS. Then they kept moving the goal posts back each time a game came over to PS ("it's okay for that game, but it will never be this game, etc."). And now it's "We're making money ever time PS gamers buy our games, Yay!"

The very definition of "Cope".

goken23h ago

It’s what a good game from a good franchise deserves.
I still think it would have done better if it came out on PS5 day one.

dveio23h ago

That's my guess, too.

In hindsight, it's really been a bold decision to not release it on Playstation in a month like December.

But instead back in August already to announce it's going to come to Playstation, then proceed to make it a weird "4 ½ months timed exclusive", and then to release it in a time with so much competition/big games being around.

Isn't this just weird?

I mean why would you do that, purely from a business point of view speaking.

Eonjay19h ago(Edited 19h ago)

Well in reality Microsoft probably wanted to release D1 on PlayStation but probably made the decision late in development... remember in an interview Spencer said, just a few months earlier, that the game would not be coming to PlayStation.

So this is probably the result of a bunch of 'inside baseball'.

The result is that Microsoft is on pace to dominate PlayStation sales charts for the month of April and May. It's great for Sony too as they get a windfall of platforming fees from a former competitor.

All in all this is good for both companies and even better for PlayStation consumers that get access to PlayStation exclusive games like Death Stranding and Ghost of Yotie on top of games like Indiana Jones, Forza, Doom, Oblivion, 33, and GTA all in the same year.

dveio18h ago

Well, yeah. Nothing to disagree with you.

Although, as far as "dominating Playstation charts" goes:

We'll see. I have nothing against anyone dominating anything.

But this term of "domination" shouldn't be used too losely I suppose.

Indiana Jones was #1 best-selling game in a single week (so far). Let's see how Forza went.

And after May we'll have better numbers, or even after 2025.

I guess it's safe to say Clair Obscure already surpassed Indiana's sales on PS5.

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UK Sales Charts: Expedition 33 Debuts in Second Place, Almost All Sales for PS5 Version

The UK's physical sales charts for last week are here, and it's more good news for Clair Obscur: Expedition 33.

The RPG has debuted at number two, only trumped by Hogwarts Legacy, which has been top for several weeks in a row.

Furthermore, 96 per cent of the copies sold were for PS5 — perhaps not as shocking a statistic when you remember the game launched on Game Pass on Xbox systems, but in the realm of physical sales, that's quite the gulf.

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dveio1d 8h ago

Geez.

I don't even know how to put it.

I mean, yeah, ok, that's just impressive.

While still remembering times when Xbox discs were on par or even sold more than Playstation's in the UK.

VenomUK17h ago

That stark difference between sales on the different platforms, 96% on PS5 and 4% on Xbox, is much larger than I think anyone was expecting. The only people buying it on Xbox are likely the ardent physical game collector enthusiasts.

It demonstrates that including premium games as day one freebies with subscription services kills off any demand from consumers to purchase them. If Microsoft had 100 million Game Pass subscribers this business model would be profitable for it - but it doesn't so every game that launches this way has lost out. In time industry experts will look back at Game Pass and pontificate on day one releases' effect on customer buying habits and the harm it did to the Xbox ecosystem.

ThinkThink2h ago

I think 60 million is realistic in the next couple of years. I guess we will see how the "this is an xbox" initiative goes with cloud and smart TVs. That's the only way they will be able to further expand gamepass numbers. XCloud needs to get out of beta first. More servers needed to mitigate wait times and continue to reduce latency.

jznrpg1d 8h ago

Proud of those 4 percent of Xbox players supporting games with their wallet and going physical. Not a joke.

DarXyde16h ago

Certainly worthy of praise.

For the rest of you, you deserve Microsoft doing things like DRM check-ins. Y'all are too excited to see an all digital future without pushing these companies to do better with digital rights first.

Eonjay19h ago(Edited 19h ago)

Here hoping they got a healthy deal from Microsoft. If they do DLC they may be able to cash in on a bunch of GP subscribers. And of course really nice to see this selling so well on PlayStation.

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Relientk771d 10h ago

Good! I'm glad Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 got a strong debut. We'll deserved and I hope it continues to sell well.

shadowT1d 10h ago

96%... maybe there was no Xbox disc available?

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goken23h ago

While we’re at it, Maybe 50% of those wanted to buy it for Xbox but accidentally bought the PS5 version instead and will be taking it back to the store to exchange it in the coming days.

Scissorman1d 8h ago

This is why devs praise being on Game Pass. They know that the Xbox install base won't buy their game anyway, and they get a nice payout upfront. It's a complete win win.

mkis0071d 8h ago

This game could have made more if it wasn't on gamepass. Only under the radar ones benefit that much from gamepass.

dveio1d 8h ago

I'd guess they saw the potential of the game and paid Sandfall a very (!) good amount of compensation before-hand.

OptimusDK10h ago

So you know the deal they made

ThinkThink2h ago

Zero chance I'd ever buy an Indiana Jones game for 80 bucks though. Would much rather put that towards something like assassin's creed shadows. I did quite enjoy Indiana Jones on gamepass though.

Bathyj1d 7h ago

More likely they were taking the safe option and getting a payout up front in case it didn't sell and now they are regretting it as it could have been a big hit .

who knows that ratio could have been closer to 60 40 had it not been on Game pass

MrNinosan1d 6h ago

The ratio will never be 60/40, not even close whatever game it is.

If this game wasn't on GamePass, the ratio would in best case scenario reach maybe 90/10.

1. Playstation install base is more than double (almost triple of Xbox).
2. Xbox gamers don't tend to spend as much money on games
3. Jrpgs are still way more popular on the Playstation consoles than on Xbox.

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Indiana Jones and the Great Circle Takes 2nd on the UK Retail Charts Following PS5 Release

Hogwarts Legacy has remained in first place on the UK retail charts, according to GfK data for the week ending April 19, 2025.

Indiana Jones and the Great Circle, following the release of the PS5 version, came in second place.

Astro Bot dropped one spot to third place, while Monster Hunter Wilds remained in fourth place. Mortal Kombat 11 Ultimate is up one spot to fifth place and EA Sports FC 25 is up six spots to sixth place.

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Knushwood Butt5d ago

Playstation owners buy games.

Strange seeing Hogwarts there as I downloaded it for my son from PS Plus a couple of days ago.

InUrFoxHole5d ago

Playstation owners buy games? That's a wild badge of honor my boy.

Bathyj4d ago

Not really. It's directly contributed to having the healthiest console and ecosystem. Not really debatable.

The alternative is a console platform holder whose least important customers are the ones who own their console. That's why it's Microsoft games studios now not Xbox in all but name.

Microsoft needs PlayStation, PC and Nintendo players now more than they need Xbox players. They're a dying breed.

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andy854d ago

Not really. That's why Xbox is going under consoles wise. PS gamers purchase stuff that's why console and game sales are always high. Xbox gamers want games for 'free' on gamepass and to enter at the lowest price point (series s)

VenomUK4d ago

@InUrFoxHole said “Playstation owners buy games? That's a wild badge of honor my boy.”

This Tuesday after The Elder Scrolls IV Oblivion was finally revealed I saw a tonne of conversation on X/Twitter of people gleefully mocking PS5 owners who said they were buying the game, as they were getting it for free with Game Pass. Yes, that’s great value for people with a Game Pass subscription - but do you still not see how it has impacted the Xbox hardware platform? It’s the reason Indiana Jones and Oblivion and Forza Horizon 5 aren’t exclusive anymore.

ravens524d ago

InUrFoxHole, its wild that you think that's wild lmao. 🤯. You buy your food from the grocery store?? Ugggh. You should get Factor. Who pays for food anymore when you can pay a subscription to receive food for "free". Disgusting.

Sound stupid? It is.

InUrFoxHole4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

@Bathy
That's some cope there. You think the healthiest console is the one that doesn't even provide their gamers with their exclusive games? That crazy talk man. The healthiest is Nintendo and that's 💯 not even a debate. MS provides gamers with games. Sony provides you with MS games. Enjoy

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You have broke brain. Gamepass isn't free. It's a sub service. Jesus n4g knows how to pick'em

andy854d ago

@InUrFoxHole notice I put free in ' ' these? Doesn't take a genius. Every game that comes out on Xbox you'll see this comment "is this coming to gamepass".

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VenomUK4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Duplicate post

goken4d ago

2nd on the charts for a game such as Indy ain’t great.
Releasing half year after xbox version probably cooled off some demand.

This is a very good game, deserves the best chance to do well.

badz1494d ago

The real great performer here is Astrobot. keeping that rate of sales for a last year's game that is not GTAV, CoD and FIFA (now Hogwarts too). outselling MH Wilds and EA FC is kinda wild for Astrobot!

dveio4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Hogwart's, Indiana, Astro Bot & Monster Hunter - that's a pretty nice top 4 once again.

I bet MachineGames are quite happy about the sales pouring in.