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In USA, the PS5 Pro Launched with Similar Sales to the PS4 Pro

Push Square: "Early indications are that PS5 Pro is finding its audience as Sony intended. This week we learned that, despite costing twice as much, the PS5 Pro sold around 13k more units than the PS4 Pro at launch in Japan.

And in the USA, the early indication from Circana analyst Mat Piscatella is that it’s keeping pace with its mid-gen predecessor."

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lukasmain170d ago

Just as Sony intended. It's for the hardcore gamer who wants it. A more niche audience. I would have thought this was obvious from the start. But man, there has been a lot of bitching and complaining. Stick with your PS5 and you'll be fine, but let us enjoy our toy and when new games come out, let us enjoy the benefits of THE PRO.

CrimsonIdol170d ago (Edited 170d ago )

We will see, there's always fanboys to milk initially. Wait until it's been out for a few months to see how it stacks up. Nearly double the cost for an at-best 30% increase to real world performance. For visuals that just don't stack up to the cost. Alan Wake 2 still rendering internally at 800-something lines, with PSSR delivering an even softer and less stable resolve than FSR in that game. RT that's a blurry noisy mess. Comparable compute performance to a 3060ti with worse RT. Enjoy the Pro, but don't think you're not getting ripped off.

TOTSUKO169d ago

The thing with console upgrades is devs utilize new console hardware longer and pays off in the later half of a gen. Where PC you are constantly upgrading cards because that’s how pc manufacturers make money. Besides unless it’s a PC exclusive devs will design their games with consoles first in mind. Where have you seen a developer fully design a game to fully utilize PC hardware where Console is impossible. I literally can’t think of one.

DarXyde169d ago

I wouldn't buy a PS5 Pro, but serious question:

For the asking price, could you build a PC with new parts and the same or better performance for the same cost?

You say people are getting ripped off and I think there's a discussion to be had on that basis, but I would also ask if you think Nvidia prices their products adequately.

Given their 13-figure market cap and the very limited range of products in the realm of graphics technology and cloud tech, I would say there's a discussion to be had there, too.

For what the Pro is, it's difficult to dispute the value to the consumer that wants it, but that's just my take.

CrimsonIdol169d ago (Edited 169d ago )

"I wouldn't buy a PS5 Pro, but serious question:

For the asking price, could you build a PC with new parts and the same or better performance for the same cost?"

In my country Australia where they are asking 900 US for a PS5 Pro, for gaming performance, Yes. Absolutely. I've even costed it out.

As an upgrade to a previous machine, far more so. 900US buys a lot of GPU. I don't know if you've looked at the GPUs lately but they aren't supply constricted like they used to be. They're much more reasonably priced than 2 or 3 years ago, when you would have had a point. But yeah. We're talking a factor of 2 more GPU performance, along with ray reconstruction and all that other good stuff from NVIDIA.

CrimsonIdol169d ago (Edited 169d ago )

"The thing with console upgrades is devs utilize new console hardware longer and pays off in the later half of a gen. Where PC you are constantly upgrading cards because that’s how pc manufacturers make money."
I'm using a graphics card that I bought before the release of the PS5, that has nearly double the GPU compute performance of the PS5 Pro, that cost me less than the PS5 Pro. That was the 3080 on launch. I'll admit I got lucky with the timing on that.

CrimsonIdol169d ago (Edited 169d ago )

I'll make a correction to my previous statement on the price of $900USD. I should have just used AUD and that was factoring in a disk drive (because what kind of enthusiast console player doesn't want the disk drive?!). Though the value of our dollar has slipped and now is closer to $880. Still my point is that for 1360AUS I absolutely could make a better PC for gaming than a PS5 Pro. Even for 1200AUD… though it's getting a lot tighter in performance difference there. But of course to me there's a lot more value in a PC for numerous reasons, particularly as a "hardcore gamer".

Gamingsince1981169d ago

Crimson I'm in Australia myself you are straight up lying, I own a pc store , have done for 20 years, you can't even get close to the same specs on a pc for the $1200 it costs for the ps5 pro. It isn't even close. Stop lying buddy

anast169d ago

In terms of being ripped off, PC is the top of the list, it takes $1,000 to play old games, bad ports, and a few relatively new games at mixed settings. But if you got 2 grand laying around and already have a PS5 Pro, PC is definitely the way to go.

thorstein169d ago

What do you get out of lying?

arm71174169d ago

@CrimsonIdol for someone who wouldn't buy a Pro you sure have a lot to say about it. You folks have to stop because we all see through it. I am unfortunately not surprised to still see the term "fanboy". Before sites like IGN and the others moved to all OPINION driven gaming media vs. un-biased where anyone with the internet is able to peddle misinformation and trash one could get good information about present and future gaming news.

I believe it is one of the primary drivers behind women/men thinking most gamers are "incels" which is far from the truth. But when I see men whining about a game console that is an optional upgrade targeted for a certain consumer I start to empathize with those people's critique.

MikeNike310169d ago

Considering the 2tb upgrade I look at it as a $100 performance boost. Microsoft has a 2tb Xbox that's only $100 cheaper. Is it worth it? Only time will tell.

Gamist2dot0169d ago

One game like Alan Wake 2 and it's "Oh no! Pro is not worth now!" Meanwhile other games especially 1st party titles are utilizing the PSSR well.
You're forgetting PSSR is a software that can be improved over time with updates. Imagine complaining on a new GPU you just bought just because one game was buggy upon the cards newly release - smh.

andy85169d ago

No, you couldn't build a PC that's better for less. But then again you're probably using the 3060ti in the costing which is incorrect.

CrimsonIdol169d ago (Edited 169d ago )

@gamingsince1981 apparently owning a PC store doesn't mean you know what you're talking about. I've literally costed it. Maybe not from your store (?). Ever looked at centrecom? Probably not. I didn't say better specs all around I responded to better performance, which I'm assuming to mean better gaming performance. You can definitely do this. A 12400F for example costs around $150AUD (this has higher performance than the PS5s CPU). You can get a 4070 for $800AUD (this has nearly double the compute performance of the PS5 Pro) and you can get the rest for under the budget of $1360. If you want to match 1200 you'll have to go with a 4060ti, which still has substantially more GPU compute performance. Perhaps you have been mislead about the PS5 Pro's performance? The truth is coming out now it's in the wild in DFs hands and such.

CrimsonIdol169d ago

@arm honestly, what are you on about? Are you trying to equate me being critical of the PS5 Pro's price with gamergate? With being an incel? Jeez, I think YOU need to get about a bit more mate.

CrimsonIdol169d ago

@andy no I'm not but a 3060ti IS a comparable GPU. 16.2TF vs 16.7TF. they both will play games at a very similar level, though the PS5s extra VRAM does give it an edge. One might argue the 3060ti having superior RT gives it an edge too however. They'd both have their strengths and weaknesses. It's a very good card you can get for very cheap. There's a lot of them out there.

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StormSnooper169d ago

Exactly. It is selling because it’s exactly what people always ask for. A hardcore option for people that want that little bit more out of their console. It’s not mandatory, but it’s there for those that want one. I imagine it’s also a great way thing for people who don’t have a PS5 yet as well. I mean you are paying only $100 more than you would pay for a series x which is not even comparable.

OtterX169d ago

Yea, it's not for me right now, as I have too many other life priorities. However, I'm really happy to see that it's selling well for the ones who want that extra boost.

blackblades169d ago

Been saying that, like people need to move and stop complaining about everything especially what Sony done

mkis007169d ago

PSSR made the ps5 pro a necessity; It needs time to get better for ps6 which should be the full release in a manner of speaking.

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dveio170d ago

I gotta say:

I didn't expect these sales, especially not in Japan. I had assumed they'd be much, much lower over there.

Overall, it's going to be an interesting fiscal Q3 for Sony.

I am curious to see how big of an impact the Pro is going to have on the revenue and profit side from October to December.

Since even the disc drive was basically selling out as soon as the Pro was officially announced.

Grievous169d ago (Edited 169d ago )

Shocked by the Japanese sales as well. I expected it to sell the worse there. It outsold the PS4 Pro in it's first week at almost 3 times the cost.

jjb1981169d ago

As much as I didn't wanna get it now, I pulled the trigger with my Target Red Card, got 5% off and sold my base PS5. I can't wait for GTA 6 and you never know if that new console tariff will really hit anytime soon. I'm enjoying it so far especially with how much better Dead Island 2 looks on the Pro. PSSR is interesting and this seems to be a test for what the PS6 is really planned to be.

goken169d ago

Yeah… but I suspect trump won’t introduce max tariffs right from the get go. But would do so incrementally, there are 2 reasons for this
1) to keep inflation manageable
2) to keep a bargaining chip and retaliatory weapon against other countries.

Regardless how tariffs are raised, prices are definitely gonna go up.

Speaking of dead island 2….. for some reason i saw it was free on my PSN last month, so i got it. Does anyone know why?

jjb1981169d ago

I believe it was a freebie download last month.

I bought the physical HELL-A addition last year for like $40 from Best Buy but it came with all the DLC. It's a blast to play with friends.

bleedsoe9mm169d ago (Edited 169d ago )

Good news for Sony that means they can bump the PS6 price up a bit

Killa78169d ago

I hope not but given how powerful the Pro is, I wonder what they be able to do.

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Days Gone Remastered [PlayStation 5] | Review - Use a Potion

Days Gone Remastered doesn’t reinvent the wheel, but it gives this once-overlooked open-world adventure the upgrade it’s always deserved.

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Are Multiplayer Modes Vanishing As Developers Look To Cut Costs

With some recent and pending releases opting to exclude a multiplayer mode; Skewed and Reviewed ask in a new Opinion Piece if this is a growing trend as developers seek to cut costs more than ever.

Christopher15h ago

I think the riskier option is to sell a SP game that you throw some form of MP into just for the sake of it and that ends up affecting the quality of the SP experience. With the plethora of F2P MP games out there, why spend time and money on something when you can focus on the SP experience. Not to say that means they're all good, but at least they're not wasting time with things people don't want in SP games. I doubt anyone bought Veilguard for MP let alone will buy the next Star Wars SP game and expect MP either.

Garethvk14h ago

There is that. I think the modes that were tried for The Last of Us is a good example. But for me a FPS missing multiplayer seems off as it was such a staple FPS, RTS, and sports games are where gamers expect it to be.

Vits15h ago

It's the current logic. People are paying more, for less.

If that "saved" money were actually spent on improving the single-player experience, that’d be one thing. But anyone who actually plays games knows that’s not what happens. We’re in the era of “safe” games, stripped-down, polished packages full of shiny lighting, big setpieces, and all the interactivity of a NES-era background.

Multiplayer modes, extra features, modding tools, things that used to add value for players, keep getting cut. Why? Because they don’t add value for the company. And, as always, the useful idiots will cheer, pay more all while getting less than before. So of course companies will keep doing it.

Garethvk14h ago

Exactly and what gets me is if it is done correctly, multiplay adds money. Ask Activision how much they make on skins and DLC all the while giving a year of free content updates. You get through a Call of Duty campaign in about 8-12 hrs. The multiplayer and frequent content updates are what keeps people playing. I always pop back in when new maps and content release. I do not buy skins and packs but many do. I wonder if we will get the Half-Life 2 mode where Multiplayer is added later. Some may see how the game does and then decide to add it later.

isarai14h ago

I wish they would go back to having SOME simple mp, like instead of the only choices being going all out and gambling on a super roadmaped, season pass, Battle Royale, multiplayer with open world maps and tons of loot OR no multiplayer at all. Why cant we have something in between sometimes? Where's just this very simple PVP probably reusing a sectioned off peace of a level from a single player like they used to do

Garethvk14h ago

I think they all have a place but simpler forms are needed. I wish we would see more co-op play in a campaign.

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Returnal's PS5 Pro upgrade delivers a huge resolution boost and improved performance

One of the best PS5 exclusives looks and plays better on PS5 Pro. Digital Foundry reports.

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jznrpg2h ago

I’ll have to start a new run sometime

jjb19811h ago

I just played it on the pro earlier and its so smooth and looks much sharper than the base PS5.