PS5 Pro Like Upgrading From an RTX 3060 to an RTX 4070; PSSR Can Improve Ray Tracing Quality

Upgrading from the base model to the PlayStation 5 Pro feels like upgrading from an RTX 3060 or 3060 Ti to an RTX 4070 GPU, allowing users to access visual features that were previously not available.

[Neonridr]

except it's AMD based, so it's not really at all :P /s

[Eonjay]

Whats funny here is that the most common GPU, last time I checked, was the 3060. This means that most common PC gamers are gaming with PS5 level hardware. Actually, the 4070 is still the closest card to the PRO because AMD doesn't offer a card with the same level of raytracing nor does it offer a proper DLSS competitor as of yet.

[Neonridr]

yeah I use a 3080 on my PC currently.

[just_looken]

I say the pro is on par with the 6800xt ish with there new pssr tech that is trying to be like dlss but it will never be like it team green has been in the ai game for far longer.

The 3060 also is a real graphics card with 12gb of vram not ram shared with the rest of the computer like how the ps5 apu runs.

A apu will never be better and or equal than dedicated hardware that came out the same generation that is just a fact.

@Neonridr

I sold my 3080 10gb vram 4k :( sucked but got a 6750 in the bedroom 4090 man screen and messing with a all intel rig atm.

If you are into non 4k the 3080 12gb model is awesome with good prices on the used market yes it can do 4k i did on non max settings its just dat vram on certain titles.

[andy85]

"Trying to be like DLSS but it will never be like it"

This is their first itineration of it and they've got pretty close against something that's been in development over 6 years. You talk about copium..seems like you're the only one with it.

[DustMan]

Also to add that the 3060 cost $330. A bit less than a ps5.

[BLow]

No sense of wasting your time. This is coming from DF as well. We all know if this was a different piece of plastic, these same people would be saying something completely different.

Then we have people comparing prices of THE GRAPHICS CARD alone to an ENTIRE system with is insane. Well this card is cheaper than the system so it better.

We need all of you to build these magical PCs with all these thrift store parts and run some comparisons. These need to be your main gaming rigs as well. Let's see how they perform and how long they last.

What a sad time to be a gamer. We have so many on here that just want to suck all the fun and enjoyment out of it and it's sad. You have people telling you not to buy something that you will enjoy for hundreds if not thousands of hours. Telling YOU, it's not worth it. Insane.

Then in the same breath, tell you to go over here and spend more money on something I want you to buy that I think is better but I wouldn't actually build for myself. Insane.

[just_looken]

Right not to mention we are talking about a glorified IGPU/APU with a cpu from 2019 being the same performance as a $600 gpu that just came out in the past year?

https://www.amazon.com/GIGA...

Man the copium on that pro is high everyone wants unoptimized games so the AI with upscale the 720i native resolution now we are talking like have a 5 year old cpu is great?

[Einhander1972]

What are you going to do with a $600 card, look at the box?

Cause that thing isn't going to process a single pixel on its own.

[just_looken]

@Einhander1972

Oh my so smart wow super star right here folks

Hey smarty you just proved my point because you think a APU just magically works or you think a $600 graphics card is inside a $500 ps5.

Users like you i know would scream and jump out a window if you ever played native 4k 120fps on a gaming pc it would be too scary for you.

That $600 card i would toss it into a used pc rig you can get for around $400 and oh look ps5 pro price but it is a gaming pc that has way more flexibility/user upgrades and lifespan.

This pc just sold $400 usd better cpu than the pro but the same ram as a ps5 toss it that 40series card you got a way better version of the ps5 pro
https://www.ebay.com/itm/18...

But i know you believe that the pro is running games native at 8k 60fps its a gods gift to humanity.

[Einhander1972]

You post some --->USED<--- garbage PC on ebay with a 1tb gen 3 ssd, slow ram and a bunch of garbage parts like a USED AIO liquid cooler (you'd have to be an idiot to buy a used AIO) and apparently not even a keyboard and mouse much less a PS5 controller and have no warranty. Then tell me I still need to add a $600 GPU so I can have an ultimately still inferior gaming experience.

Dude, just shut up...

[just_looken]

@Einhander1972

I posted a example one of many

But on this site everyone think's a closed box is god

I wont shut up because i speak truth you will never ever get the ps5 pro to do as much as a thousand dollar pc and the lifespan will always be longer.

you also point out "slower ram" Bro the ps5 has no dedicated ram is shared with the gpu you also can upgrade the pc duh.

The lack of keyboard/mouse for real? that is $30 at most a controller for real? wow

You sell the gpu the pc has for $100 and get all that.

But no on here everyone thinks pc's are scary evil machines that are weaker than a console that uses mobile parts with 0 upgrades anti repair. Oh you can upgrade the second storage BFD.

Please show me a custom 1k pc or even a new gaming pc doing less than your ps5 pro.

Heck four second's found brand new am5 gaming pc for $800 usd take the 200 out of thousand dollar usd budget you can sell the gpu get a old 90 series or get a good amd card together.
https://www.microcenter.com...

But i know i will get mass down votes sense that pc has no PS logo the get picked apart

[Einhander1972]

More garbage.

$800, no warranty, a 512 pcie ssd, a 6 core cpu, no keyboard or mouse, no controller an inferior 8gb GPU no sound card.

Keep posting these, so I can keep pointing out that PS5 Pro is the best dollar for dollar value for gaming.

[jwillj2k4]

For real shouldve said 6800 to a 4070

[DivineHand125]

These comparisons are insane. How can the base PS5 be comparable to an Rtx 3060 when the Nvidia card has DLSS and better ray tracing.

In a more realistic world, the PS5 should be compared to the RX 5700. Therefore the PS5 pro will be comparable to the Rx 7700 xt. There is no way AMD is going to make a console GPU superior to their desktop GPU counterpart when they are actively trying to compete with NVidia for market share. This is based on theoretical performance because the desktop counterpart will have more watts available to it. The RX 7700 xt does have AI cores on them but I am not sure if they are being utilized for gaming. I suspect when FSR 4 gets released, the 7000 series GPUs may get some support.

[Einhander1972]

PSSR isn't that far off DLSS, and PS5 Pro has RDNA 4 RT, it's not only adding RT its full RT not just simple 1/4 res reflections and shadows like PS5 and SX are doing.

[on_line_forever]

How about Cpu ?

[DustMan]

Same CPU

[Pepsi_Man3000]

Fucking YAWN

[Whitey2k]

Ps5 pro will be like a 7700xt and will give 7800xt a run for its money due to pssr and rt features that's not on the 7800xt

[PRIMORDUS]

Exactly lets call it a 7750 XT,😁

[PRIMORDUS]

That's what I did in Jan. of this year, went from a 3070 to a 4070 Super, one tier above the 4070 and I put my EVGA 3070 on my shelf I'm not selling that, EVGA is gone so this will be in my collection😎. 1440p/165hz I'm getting in GoW Ragnarok FPS with DLAA+Frame gen, + reshade hitting my cap in some areas at 158, overall FPS 125+ except in realm between realms that area has major performance issues.

[Destiny1080]

half baked Pcs don't cut it any more, time to ask daddy for a real upgrade

[soulrebel]

@just_looken

Shame the PC has such poor efficiency and suffers absurd stutters right up to a 7800 x3d paird with a 4090.

I own similar to that plus a ps5, amd it's ludicrous that i sometimes opt for the ps5 version for a smoother experience.

A £700 pro is an excellent value proposition.

[anast]

A console comparable to 3060 that is plug and play for $500 vs a vastly more expensive machine that gets broken ports and takes hours of fiddling just to rent and play a game, or spend more time trying to get it for free. The better deal is clear.

[Agent75]

Watched a few comparison videos, there's nothing in it. It staggers me that at any price, someone would buy a pro console. The PS5 is around 4 years old, feels like it hasn't got started yet. The Xbox Series X was dead before launch. Give it a few years, the PS6 will surface and it'll be another re-run. £700 (£915) for a PS5 Pro in the UK, £100 for a drive and whatever it's going to cost for a space saver stand, hate to think how much next gen consoles are going to cost. £700+ for a console that'll be finished within a few years, I'd rather save it for next gen.

[DustMan]

Exactly. In 4 or 5 years that PS5 pro will collect dust next to a PS6. I built my system around a i7-8700, and 1080ti back in 2017 / 2018. Upgraded to a used 3080 for $350 a year ago, and this box still holds it's own at 1440p, with frame rates in the 80's using DLSS and AMD frame gen.

[SonOfOsiris]

Lol yeah right

[Demetrius]

I'm not gone lie the ps5 pro is dope, gaming has come so far. I remember playing last of us 2 ps5 edition and my momz was like IS THAT A MOVIE? I'm like nah it's a game lol she was like wow games have really came far, that right there is trippin me out 🤣

[Grievous]

PS5 punches above it's weight. No doubt the PS5 Pro will as well. The great thing with PSSR is that Sony can keep developing and improving it giving them a massive advantage with the PS6.

[DarkKaine]

*Stares at my 1060 that I haven't upgraded in years due to no compelling software to justify it's purchase*

[EazyC]

I think this is the really pressing matter.... people get too bogged-down thinking it's some kind of indictment of Sony, but the reality is videogames have been really quite stagnant in terms of technological momentum to feel like upgrading to even enthusiasts. That is true of PCs, and is (to me) true of the PS5 Pro.

If it sells (assuming this rush we're seeing on the pre-orders isn't scalpers leaping in) then I guess that alone justifies its existence, but I will just say that I am 'technically' the demographic something like the PS5 Pro should appeal to (decent disposable income, and really would pay extra if there was a truly perceptible increase in quality), but I just don't get it.