PS5 Pro RT Capabilities May Not Be Very Transformative; PSSR: Potential of Being a Huge Game Changer

Original title : 'PlayStation 5 Pro Ray Tracing Capabilities May Not Be Very Transformative; PSSR Has the Potential of Being a Huge Game Changer'
Description : While improved over those of the base model, the PlayStation 5 Pro ray tracing capabilities may not be very transformative.

[Retroman]

I see nooooooo difference in graphics comparison to either consoles.
For those reasons I'm out

[Shikoku]

There really isn't that big of difference. I got a PS4 Pro and was excited for a PS5 pro but no disc drive and 2tb with a small bump in graphics and RT is not worth the price point. If I didn't already own a PS5 then I would consider it but as I have a good PC and PS5 I just can't justify 700$ for a little better graphics.

[andy85]

I mean you won't. They've largely shown older games. The difference is they're at 60 fps. The difference will be on future games that would have taxed the older PS5.

[BeHunted]

Mr Wonderful on Shark Tank:

"Listen, I get it, you've improved the graphics and boosted the performance, but the PS5 is already a great machine. Is there really enough here to convince gamers to drop £699? I don't think so. The difference between the PS5 and the Pro just isn't significant enough for most people to justify that kind of spend. You're asking consumers to pay a premium for something they probably won't even notice in day-to-day use. It’s just not going to fly at that price. For those reasons, I’m out."

[ocelot07]

"Is there really enough here to convince gamers to drop £699?"

Yes as they see the value. What people don't seem to understand is. This ain't replacing it he PS5 standard. Sony are not hoping this sells 10+million each year's for the next 4 years. They are most likely expecting 10-15 million in by time PS6 releases

[isarai]

Ray tracing in general has not been very transformative there's been like three games where I see a cool difference. And the rest, it's so minor it's not even worth the frame rate sacrifice

[Vits]

RTX Remix is probably the most game-changing use of this technology so far, mainly because it's a fantastic tool for modding. And modders, who are incredibly dedicated and creative, have the potential to really push its potential to transform old games.

On the flip side, AI upscaling is a double-edged sword. It can greatly enhance image quality when used correctly. However, on PC, it’s frequently overused by developers as a quick fix, resulting in less-than-ideal native performance. Given that console users tend to be less critical and less informed about tech in general, I’m really curious to see how widely AI upscaling will be adopted and how it will impact the console experience.

[isarai]

To be perfectly honest, I've hated the upscaling techniques we've been using for like the past 10 years. I'm so tired of things like water and grass and other complex shaders looking like a blurry mess and leaving long ghosting trail artifacts, and image quality looking blurry and making my eyes feel out of focus. I hate it and I hope we find something else soon cuz it's getting old

[shadowT]

even PS5 base unit is providing better graphics

[Emme]

I just discussed this with a friend, thing is, the devs got so good at faking reflections, that the jump to "real" raytraced reflections is not as "transformative" as tech dudes think it is. Same goes for lighting. If You go Xbox360-->PS5 You might see a big step, but PS5-->Pro ? Not so much.

[arm71174]

Calm down the thing isn't even out yet and stills never reflect realtime gameplay. So much whining. Just don't buy it. That simple.

[SimpleDad]

I thought Sony would bring fidelity mode to 60fps, but it turns out... kudos to DF... that's not the case.
What Sony is doing is taking performance mode from existing titles and upscaling it to a higher resolution leaving max settings behind.
Same CPU still can't handle max settings at 60fps.

They are also adding higher rez... AI upscale raytracing, so that reflections are more up to par with the rest of the game.

That kinda killed that initial hype for me.

Newer games?
Who knows... My guess: Ps5 800p 30 render will be AI upscaled to 1200p with the PRO, but will remain 30fps
The task here is to leave FSR.

They are marketing this PRO like FSR, Screen space reflections and checker board rendering never existed.

[Whitey2k]

Despite its aging CPU in theory it should still be able to do 60fps maybe it won't reach 100 or 80 without pssr but it still certainly be able to do 60 and 120fps in performance with slightly higher resolution or quality compared to ps5