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This PC build will rival a PS5 Pro... and it's roughly the same price

The PS5 Pro price announcement has caused quite a stir, so here's a gaming PC build you might want to go for instead

TheNamelessOne225d ago

But, but, but ... you need to pay 2-3 times as much as a console for the same performance /s

BeHunted224d ago

You also need a subscription to play online on PlayStation, which is free on PC, with cheaper games and free weekly games on Epic Game Store, Humble Bundle, etc. If you're subscribed to Amazon Prime: Free Games.

Everything is cheaper on PC. At least you don't need to replace the CPU or RAM. Every generation, you can replace the GPU for the same price as a PlayStation 5 Pro.

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH224d ago

Please be quiet you’re making to much sense…

fr0sty224d ago (Edited 224d ago )

The same people that say "At least you don't need to replace the CPU or RAM when you upgrade your PC" are the same people saying "PS5 Pro is gonna suck because they didn't replace the CPU or RAM!".

This build is comparing a 6 core CPU to an 8 core in Pro, a PCI-E x4 SSD with a max 5,150MBps read and 4,900MBps write to PS5 Pro's SSD with 8-9 GB/s thanks to its dedicated hardware compressor/decompressor, the Radeon GPU lacks the RDNA4 raytracing features found in Pro, it costs as much as a Pro with a 4K Blu-Ray drive added on but it doesn't have a disc drive, and they didn't include the price of the operating system or a keyboard, mouse, and controller.

This isn't even considering PSSR, 3D audio, or haptic feedback that are missing from this PC build.

This is a ridiculous comparison... Sorry PCMR, you're going to have to try harder than that.

CrimsonIdol224d ago

You can absolutely compare a 6 core desktop CPU to the PS5 CPU, especially one that outperforms a PS5 in both single AND multithreaded performance in spite of the core differential.

Babadook7224d ago (Edited 224d ago )

fr0sty making more sense than the PC faithful here.

PC games are more expensive unless you pirate. I'm shocked at how PC guys continually don't get that physical media bought used and or sold used is a cheaper option. PC never competes on a tight budget. And the tweaking is not for most people either.

Neofire223d ago

Exactly @Frosty, simple minded people will at the article at face value and not read it and anyone who reads will see what they did and the false equivalencies they are using.

Loktai223d ago (Edited 223d ago )

@CrimsonIdol When you begin to look at bandwidth between the CPU and GPU, ram speed, etc the argument falls apart. You also need to look at things like system overhead and APIs - console APIs in general tend to yield a few percent performance difference.... that few percent is near equivalent to moving up one model of hardware for all but feature set purposes. You cant build a PC that'll match a base PS5 for 450- the extra couple hundred bucks are not going to make the PC keep up with a PS5.... Digital Foundry themselves say the closest to PS5 pro in raw performance comparison on PC is a 4070...The PS5 pro is going to include a controller ( which is over 50 bucks, so please include that in your PC cost) so the base system cost is 650. If you think you can build the rest of the PC behind the 4070 including a gig or two of 5gbps storage for 100 dollars be my guest.

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Babadook7224d ago (Edited 224d ago )

"But, but, but ... you need to pay 2-3 times as much as a console for the same performance /s"

It's actually true. These builds are never as cheap and/or powerful as the console they claim to compete with.

In this case the GPU is a gen behind, does not compete with upscaling (PSSR) nor raytracing nor video ram. The SSD is less than half the performance. You'd have to add a few things like windows and a controller.

CrimsonIdol223d ago (Edited 223d ago )

While I'd largely agree that you pay an extra couple hundred to put a better PC together, Thanks to the extra $200US premium you pay to buy it in Australia you can put together an RTX 4070 system for less that's absolutely going to be better for gaming performance than a PS5. RT will be better. An SSD matters for loads, not having the absolute fastest doesn't matter nearly as much as you think. It's great the PS5 has all but removed the HDD bottleneck for loading, this ends shifting the bottleneck to the next thing: the CPU. after all, the game generally has to do something with that data. While it's a great idea to shift the streaming and compression to a dedicated bit of kit in practice, rarely if ever do multiplat titles actually load faster on PS5 to PC, even when the PC has Gen 3 NVMe. In fact as DF proved, even on the PS5 the fast SSD doesn't actually make any difference compared to if the PS5 SSD is forced to run at gen 3 speeds.

Babadook7223d ago (Edited 223d ago )

DF said a lot of BS about PS5s SSD before it launched. PC ended up with massive issues with compilation stutter that still effects many games to this day. Only recently did DF sheepishly admit the PS5s lightning quick IO was actually not handled the same on the PC side. Furthermore SSD is about more than load times. Load times are only a nice bonus. It's about asset management in game for next gen engines. UE5 games will need that too. This build would get trounced in years time if not at launch.

KyRo223d ago (Edited 223d ago )

I hate to break this to you but there's upscaling tech available for every game ever on PC for less than £5 on Steam which even helps decade old PC play modern games smoothly. It even has 4x frame generation and works for games, videos, emulation, everything. PSSR could have been on PS5 too but they chose not to.

Babadook7223d ago (Edited 223d ago )

"there's upscaling tech available for every game ever on PC for less than £5 on Steam which even helps decade old PC play modern games smoothly"

What are you referring to specifically?

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Grilla223d ago

Even if it was cheaper and stronger I wouldn’t build or buy a pc. I moved on from pc during the ps4 gen. Don’t have the time or patience anymore. I’d rather buy multiple consoles and game in whatever room is convenient. I’ve been waiting for the pro to buy a 3rd ps5.

OldDuffer223d ago

Exactly. I have a 4K PC rig and though I thought I might play games on it, I never have. On PC you are always fiddling and spend far less of your free time actually playing games. Switch on and play within a minute is the only way for me. Maybe the tech fiddling and looking up best settings is something younger people like to do - I got bored of it and stopped gaming on PC around 20 years ago. No desire to go back despite having the rig to do so.
Choices are good though and someone with no PC I would advise to get one over a console because there is so much else you can do with it. I will always choose a hardware console to actually game on. As a committed gamer, its the best place to play uninterrupted games for me and my circs, but 'horses for courses'.

LikAChicken223d ago

@oldduffer

What fiddling are you doing? Most of the modern games (within the last decade plus) even make it easier by having a general toggle or slider of Quality settings to Performance settings.

Neonridr223d ago

@oldduffer - too much work to wake the computer from sleep, launch the Steam app and click the play button?

if you have a 4K PC rig, what in gods name would you be fiddling with? I have an 8600K + 3080 and I don't have to fiddle at all.

Loktai223d ago

@Neonridr - Dealing with all the other apps on the PC, the rebooting, buying the OS to begin with- instability issues, the DRIVERS for various devices and believe me once you start trying to use different headsets or other things on PC it does work usually pretty well but its not as simple as a console- everything is not as integrated. Yes Steam generally works fine- but when you buy a game you DO have to check if it will even run as intended on your system (not a thing on console) - and there are other aspects that make it less smooth than a console- I am a systems engineer professionally- I use and deal with computer systems all day long and for me, or you maybe it isnt fiddling but it isnt as straight forward as a console. A pS5 or a switch or something- you literally just put the disk or cart in (there is some install process for the Playstation side not on the switch) and it shows up on your front dash board, you launch it, everything is compatible, works out of the box and your settings are good to go - I can understand the appeal. I dont hate on either platform- but to say a PC isnt more fiddley- its someone whos never had a RAM stick go bad or some other issue- now try to get support for your PC when its just crashing , even if you JUST got the parts and built this PC yourself- now you need to figure out whats wrong, you dont get to just CALL someone and get a replacement - if the game isnt running as expected - you dont just know that the game needs a a patch or that all users are experiencing this- it can be something with YOUR rig- either somethintg from the beginning or something that happened randomly while you owned it like an update.

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MajorLazer223d ago

The biggest issue with PC gaming is the games that either release late on the platform, or don't release at all. GTA VI is the most anticipated entertainment product in history, yet PC will have to wait at least a year for it.

PrinceOfAnger223d ago

All of the games here will be day one on pc
But ps5 will have to wait ?

https://i.ibb.co/TkZKzyM/Sc...

Rude-ro223d ago

Not one smart person would go through a bargain bin parts list to build a pc that is out of date and would need an upgrade that would replace the motherboard and cpu to move forward.
Let alone the generic gpu,

God the desperation from pc/microsoft kids is astonishing.

If platforms want to be popular… then do what is best… make wanted games.

You absolutely will spend a minimum of $1,400 on a pc build.
2k + for solid 1440p or 4K gaming,

This build would be 1440p max at mid settings but getting the best performance out of 1080p.

This cheap build does not come close to what the ps5 pro would offer in gaming or visual quality,

“Roughly” the same price…
And any person who built this pc would feel stupid after doing so.

Neonridr223d ago

but instead you'd buy a locked console that is also out of date.

Ironic

Rude-ro223d ago

@Neo
Many would… yes.
The ps5 is not out of date.
Not in today’s gaming market.
You have the anchor that is the Xbox s to thank for that.
You have the overwhelming majority of the pc community gaming on old rigs pushing 1080p to thank for that.

Gaming is only as good as the games being released.
Since not many companies are doing anything to push gaming other than a pixel count… how is any gaming device “out of date”?

My point, for those interested, $700 for an updated console with an exclusive chipset for ray tracing, double the gpu, and what is already the fastest component communication in any console is a good deal in todays market.

Is the ps5 pro what I wanted? No.
Why?
Because the reality is gaming is at a stand still.
The majority of developers only want cash cows and micro transactions.
The only way to gain said profits in today’s market is to be on as many devices as possible with cheap development tools/production.

A “pro” version today should come with a display port for monitor support, low latency competition, high refresh rates etc..
The gaming popularity of today is online PvP gaming…
A hole in console gaming due to the lack of support for the above.
All with the comfort of a locked system that would be better suited to combat cheating that has plagued pc gaming in said genre.

Markdn223d ago

But but we are worried we gonna look stupid so we need to keep putting these articles out there cause we have to justify how much more important pcs are even though the entry level to compete with a console yet to be released mind, has just shot up. Stop very poor value for money for the pc if you ask me

S2Killinit223d ago

But the article is playing loose with the word “rivals”.

FyBy223d ago

7700XT ? Dont make me laugh :-)
But it is pricier than I expected. I think half way between PS5 and actual PS5 Pro price would make it a hit. This is steep even for me.

DustMan223d ago

I've shown several builds that put the price point at around $800 dollars which is what the total would be. If you wanted the ps5 pro & disc drive (since console players are going to die on that hill) You can add another 70 if you want a second controller. So in if you want that disk drive & another controller you need to add another 150 to the total making it $850.

Nobody comments on the system, but rather on how I've added the cost of a controller and disk drive.

it comes with a controller - cool, guess you don't need another if you have nobody to play with...ever
disk drive - "I don't need it "(despite console players constantly complaining about digital only)
The stand - "I don't need it" (which is the only reasonable thing I've heard)

It's a stigma that PC is soooo expensive. I've got friends who I play online with daily who built systems for around 1k, and they aren't complaining. They know they didn't build the king kong of PC's, just enough to play some of the modern stuff at good frame rates.

Kakashi Hatake223d ago (Edited 223d ago )

Have fun waiting for games. No GTA, No Astrobot, No Spiderman 2, no Final Fantasy 7, no Plucky Squire, no Gran Tursimso, among many others. I'm convinced the PC argument comes from angry Xbox fanboys.

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M3talDiamond224d ago (Edited 224d ago )

Does the PC build's GPU in the article have PSSR? I didnt think so

BeHunted224d ago (Edited 224d ago )

Nvidia has DLSS 2.0 and AMD has FSR, which are superior to anything on consoles. DLSS 2.0 remains one of the most innovative upscaling technologies on the market.

porkChop224d ago

DLSS is actually up to 3.5 now with higher quality upscaling, frame generation, and ray reconstruction.

fr0sty224d ago

You're talking about PSSR as if it's locked into its current state forever... they've already updated it once recently and improved its quality, and the system isn't even out yet. There also have been no direct comparisons between it and FSR or DLSS, so to say either is better is just guessing.

babadivad224d ago (Edited 224d ago )

Comments like these reminds me that console only gamers don't know anything about the hardware they game on. And even less about what's available on PC.

Sony didn't invent upscaling technology. DLSS has been around and baked into GPUs for 7 years.

fr0sty224d ago

and DLSS isn't available for the PC build in this article, so let's stay on topic.

derek223d ago

@baba why do you care? Lol, you xbox fanatics are going crazy over the pros existence. Mind your own business and let people spend their money the way they want to.

babadivad223d ago

@Frosty FSR is available on all GPUs. AMD, Nvidia, and Intel.

So it is on topic. This technology is not new.

fr0sty223d ago

And nobody has yet to prove that PSSR is any worse than FSR or DLSS.

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DivineHand125224d ago

Unfortunately, no AMD GPU has AI image upscaling capabilities. PSSR is Sony's attempt to start development in that area, however, one thing to note is that this will be the first iteration of PSSR. When we look back at Nvidia's DLSS or Intel's XeSS, the first iteration is usually nothing special.

We will likely see better utilization of PSSR with the second iteration when the PS6 releases.

jwillj2k4224d ago

“ We will likely see better utilization of PSSR with the second iteration when the PS6 releases”

(Slow clap) Incredible foresight.. unf*ckin believable…

DivineHand125223d ago

@Fr0sty There is a difference between AMD's FSR and the options what Nvidia or Intel has to offer. FSR uses an open-source algorithm to upscale the images while the competition uses an AI algorithm. An advantage of FSR compared to the others is that FSR can be implemented on almost any GPU while the technologies that uses AI tend to see superior performance but is preparatory to each respective platform.

fr0sty223d ago

@divine, and PSSR is one of the aforementioned AI solutions, so it should yield superior quality.

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Einhander1972224d ago

These are fake, that GPU is not the same performance, even if they want to act like it is. And they are using much slower memory.

PS5's GPU is using RDNA 4 tech that AMD hasn't even released themselves yet.

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Jin_Sakai224d ago

Stop with the nonsense and let console gamers be console gamers. Ain’t no one wanting to play with the biggest cheating crowd on the planet or wait a year to play games like Astro Bot.

BeHunted224d ago (Edited 224d ago )

Imagine spending nearly £1k on a console in 2024. while PC is the cheapest option, cheap games, with free weekly games on the Epic Store.

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Giblet_Head224d ago (Edited 224d ago )

@Master_Rid

Interesting way to rationalize being ripped off long term. But I suppose sunk cost will do that.

andy85223d ago

Eh not for me. I have a PC and I'd spend far more on games if that were where I primarily gamed simple for the fact they're all digital

fsfsxii223d ago

Epic games is now good? Lmao

jznrpg223d ago

I won’t be spending 1k I’ll be spending 699$ when it comes out.

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