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The PS5 Pro will retail for $699, but who will buy this console at such a high price?

TechRaptor writes, "With the PS5 Pro announcement I find myself asking, who is the $700 PS5 Pro for? The PlayStation 5 Pro releases soon, but who will buy it?"

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Lightning77227d ago (Edited 227d ago )

There's a short term issue and a long term issue.

Short term issue is the lack of games showing off the hardware's enhanced capabilities. We don't know Sony's immediate Road map but it seems they'll have another State Of Play on the 19th of this month showing third party and indie but no first party. VGA's they have to announce something. Bends New LS game? Fairgames? I think Ghosts 2 is a spring 2026 title if it doesn't show show up at VGA's.

The long term issue is how big of a leap will PS6 be? They probably have 3 to 4 years until the new console releases but how big of a jump will it actually be? The Pro model is a reworked model with all the newest bells and whistles so how big of a leap will the PS6 actually have?

The PS4 pro came out in 16 and 4 years later the PS5 came out and MS was touting the One X then 3 years later the series X came out. The results were 4k 60 for cross gen stuff, TFlops meant nothing the Ssd's were over blown certain games are still 30. The overall capabilities are still barely being tapped in right now.

This gen really woke me up to overblown promises of consoles. Going to a new gen in the next handful of years I'll be very skeptical.

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ThinkThink227d ago

Even if it only sells 5 million, that can still be considered a success, especially if it isn't sold at a loss.

Spenok226d ago

It'll likely sell roughly 15 mill when everything is said and done.

fr0sty227d ago (Edited 227d ago )

The one thing it has going for it is the fact that it upscales and upframes all older games that it can play with no input required from the developer, so even our PS4, PSVR, and PSVR2 library will be looking and playing better.

I'm not happy about buying it at this price, and I'm only doing so because I planned on giving my nephews my OG PS5 for Christmas, and if I'm going to buy a new console, I might as well buy the best... but I did take a serious pause and consider whether or not to just buy another OG PS5. Sony about lost me with this one.

darthv72226d ago

upscaling sure... but i dont think it can add frames. Remember, its called PlayStation Spectral Super Resolution (PSSR), not PlayStation Spectral Super Resolution & Frames (PSSR&F)

Babadook7226d ago (Edited 226d ago )

@fr0sty @darthv72

In terms of "upframes" applied to all games with a mere toggle; it's potentially a massive feature. But it was no where to be seen in Cerny's talk. That being said, machine learning hardware is by no means restrictive in its usage, and could have new abilities added later. There's at least a good chance the feature does get added some day (early leaks did indicate it as well). I want PSVR2 games to get that boost in particular.

fr0sty226d ago (Edited 226d ago )

@darth, the upframing would come via the upgraded hardware capabilities, the upressing coming in the form of PSSR. Games with a hard frame cap coded into them wouldn't benefit, of course, but those that targeted 60 and didn't meet it, or games that ran on dynamic resolution at 60fps, would.

darthv72226d ago (Edited 226d ago )

well then, you used the wrong 'framing' of the word. And you basically described the exact same situation when playing unlocked games that could not hit 60 on a 4Pro and are more stable 60 on a 5. That is just by virtue of the better hardware because those frames are already there. it just took a bit more power to ensure they all played out. The way you [initially] described it sounded more like frame generation which takes existing frames and doubles them. Meaning it is not full frame but half frame and then doubled to act as if it were full frame. which is what BMW does and its not that great. But it shows promise.

Or at least that is how i perceived what you said. My bad if that was not your intention. PSSR will improve the visual quality while games will not get improved performance if they did not have uncapped frames to begin with. Like bloodborne and last guardian (patched version). On this we both can agree. There have been several games that struggle to maintain consistent fps on the base 5 that i absolutely know will be rock solid on the pro. It is the games moving forward that will be interesting as the same walls that were being hit on the base 5 (causing those performance issues) will eventually rear its ugly head on the Pro. And then it can be assumed something like the 6 will come along and do for those what the 5 did for games that struggled on the 4Pro.

And the cycle continues.

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DustMan226d ago

The PS4 pro was enough for me to realize that consoles are always going to dupe people in terms of their actual performance. PS3 was more expensive, but was rarely able to match performance from the 360 in 3rd party games. 1st party on ps3 was impressive though.

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TheNamelessOne227d ago (Edited 227d ago )

Going to be real. I've been going through the youtube comments on the presentation and there's a lot of people weighing just switching to PC going forward.

As (mainly) a PC player, I say take the plunge. Actually get your hands on the benefits that comes with being outside of the closed console environment. I've seen a lot of console gamers go PC over the years, but not a whole lot of PC gamers go back to console as their main platform.

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Jingsing227d ago

That's not true, A lot of people left PC gaming when Steam came out and killed physical gaming for PC. It is one of the great non talked about events. Because you were just locking yourself into one digital only platform.

JEECE227d ago

That Steam pushed people away from PC gaming rather than brought them to it is one of the wildest takes I think I've ever seen on this site.

darthv72227d ago

you sure about that....? Steam has exploded over the years in terms of users and has the 2nd largest reach worldwide (only behind XBL) in terms of countries/regions its available in.

HankHill226d ago

I guess you've never heard of the Steam Deck.

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TripleAAARating227d ago (Edited 227d ago )

Why is everyone acting and talking as if the OG PS5 will somehow cease to exist on Nov 7th???.... wtf man I really don't get it, just don't buy the Pro, it'll send them a message....it's not like Sony's gonna stop manufacturing the PS5 slim, the Pro's an option not a necessity, I'll still be playing GTA6 and all other first party releases in 2025.... and to eveyone saying just build a PC, LOL.. why not just buy a PS5 slim?????.GTA 6 won't be on PC next year...

The MSRP of the Pro was, I'm pretty sure partly influenced by MS's $600 option with no hardware upgrades other than 1tb of extra storage this Holiday, when you look at it $100 more and you get a much more Powerful and advanced console when considering the tech packed in Sony's machine (minus the optical drive of course).. I'm sure this was part their value proposition when considering the consumer would make a comparison..

Why would MS not just give their lineup a price cut?? considering thier poor sales, even at a loss for every console, they would have sure seen a surge for the holidays, and at the very least make Sony consider the same.... No they doubled down and even increased the MSRP on their lineup, further solidifying Sony's grip on the market, hence $700 for the Pro.

FinalFantasyFanatic226d ago

I ended up jumping after the PS4 to PC, I did expect to get a PS5 at some point, but after witnessing how this generation has turned out... I definitely won't be getting a PS5, I've also has a couple of friends move from PS5 to PC.

ChasterMies226d ago

“there's a lot of people weighing just switching to PC going forward.”

What is the thought process? They see a $700 console is too much and instead they buy a $1400 PC?

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gold_drake227d ago (Edited 227d ago )

enthusiasts, seeing how the disc drives sell out everywhere lol

if u have that kinda money to buy it, do so, but i dont wanna drop 1k on that, ontop of psplus and games i wanna buy

Sgt_Slaughter227d ago (Edited 227d ago )

$699*

*doesn't include the $80 disc drive you need for physical games, or the $30 vertical stand that doesn't come with the console, or the $80+ a year you might need for online play, or the sales that that can run $55-75+, etc. All of that out the door before you even by a game is nearly $1,000.

At this price this far into the lifecycle of a console that is struggling for consistency of releases, this is ludicrous. PSVR2 was already a botch due to its compatibility issues and price point, and now this.

Just get a PC for around that price that's more than capable of equaling or outperforming the Pro and add a Switch 2 when it comes out. That, or a Steam Deck you can take with you then dock at home with a plug-in GPU.

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LastAvenger226d ago

PS2 didn’t need a stand. PS3 didn’t need a stand. PS4 didn’t need a stand. Any PS5 doesn’t need a stand. These are all nice to haves and could prevent you console from fall over but if you put it in a secure spot away from kids and dog tails it’ll be just fine.

My lack of complaint of the no disc drive has been enlightened by the fact that I now have a digital edition PS5 along with 2 disc based ones. However I can’t take that physical disc and move to another room with a digital PS5 and play it can I? I’m finding that the ease of getting digital editions of the games becoming the norm. I can use 1 purchase and play on any 3 of the devices I own. Or PS4 if it’s a crossgen title.

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Oblivion Remastered Breaks 4 Million Players in 4 Days

Bethesda Game Studios writes: We are so grateful to the over 4 million of you that have already ventured into Cyrodiil with Oblivion Remastered. Thank you!

Obscure_Observer14h ago

Congrats goes to Todd and everyone at Bethesda and team Xbox for another huge milestone!

Hopefully after this huge success, Phil might greenlit New Vegas Remastered powered by UE5 as well.

Fingers crossed!

lukasmain12h ago

I wish for, at the very least, maybe Fallout 3 remaster? I mean the success of the show proves that not just hardcore gamers are ready for a great updated Fallout game. I believe it could potentially be even more successful than the Oblivion remaster. But I do like your idea of a New Vegas UE5 , because I actually never played that. Bethesda are better under Microsoft, I agree with you now after this "remaster". It's much cheaper and faster to do something like this for an old classic game. Reminds me of when Capcom started doing that with RE2. Gamer goodwill became skyhigh for Capcom. Fingers crossed indeed

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F3 Remastered already came out on the court documents, so unless it was cancelled, which sounds unlikely as it would the best they can hope to have to match any releases of the TV show since F5 isn’t coming out any time soon.

That said, I do agree that if this has proven to be a hit and I don’t see why F3 wouldn’t be if it gets the same level of treatment, they will probably want to do more

anast13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

It's on GamePass. According to Steam DB: it has a 190k peak, which is not close to 4 mil. It didn't even reach 500k on Twitch stats and owner estimations are hovering around 1 mil or less.

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lukasmain12h ago

Well done, despite not getting exact sales, this is still great news because the budget for this and the development time wouldn't have been much at all when compared to a full 6 or 7 year development window and the cost that would entail. So it does seem like a great success and even better when you consider that they shadow-dropped it without paid marketing. Hope this team is already past pre-production on another "remaster" of another classic, I'm personally hoping for Fallout 3 remaster

MaximusPrime_11h ago

Microsoft realised how stupid they had been and delayed following Sega's example.
There you go MS, worldwide lots more people own PS5 or PC than Xbox. You got the money you're desperate for.

To be truly Sega, don't bother releasing a new console. Just focus on software.

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Obscure_Observer9h ago

"To be truly Sega, don't bother releasing a new console. Just focus on software."

MS will continue to release new consoles as they´ll continue and make tons of money out PC, PS5 and Switch 2 as well.

Gamers on other platforms will happily pay full price for amazing Xbox games while we get everything day one on Game Pass.

It´s a win win for everyone.

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