Tune in tomorrow for a PlayStation 5 Technical Presentation hosted by Mark Cerny

The 9-minute stream begins tomorrow, September 10 at 8:00am PT / 4:00pm BST.

[Neonridr]

PS5 Pro reveal incoming

[kenpachi]

Wonder if they will show of their upscaling method similar to fsr and dlss

[Aussiesummer]

Nah, why would they bother, its only a TECHNICAL PRESENTATION.....

[Obscure_Observer]

"Wonder if they will show of their upscaling method similar to fsr and dlss"

And which *games* they´ll use to showcase Pro´s enhancements.

[jznrpg]

I would bet money they would since it’s a technical presentation and not just a quick reveal.

[crazyCoconuts]

That's almost certainly going to be the highlight (PSSR).
Would be pretty wild if they found a way to bring PSSR to existing consoles... Doubt they could, but...maybe?

[Notellin]

This goes down as the dumbest question I've ever seen on N4G.

[Babadook7]

LOL at all the doubters.

"Nothing from devs yet so..."

LOL

[Cacabunga]

“ The 9-minute Technical Presentation will focus on PS5 and innovations in gaming technology.”

🤔

[Eonjay]

Makes sense. He will end it off with Sony announcing a future state of play to see the new games running on the hardware.

[Lightning77]

No game new announcements. Grubb said State Of Play. Like I said before he's only half right about things. @Bunga Ive even suspected at least 3rd party will show up, enhancements to first party (though he might still show those enhancements)

Now we have to wait for Vga's or even a rumored few weeks for new games? It's a wait and see.

[VenomUK]

‘Technical presentation’ - I wonder what the frig this could be about?

[Obscure_Observer]

@Lightning77

"No game new announcements. Grubb said State Of Play. Like I said before he's only half right about things."

Grubb never said the Pro would be showcased at State of Play. He was specifically talking about SOP this month; when asked if the Pro would make an appearance, he said he didn´t know.

Stop spreading false information.

[Lightning77]

@Obscure doesn't matter he's half right or gets his information flipped. Hey it's better than being flat out wrong. Either way he's still not super credible nor is he dead on about anything anymore. So no my comment still stands kid....

[seanpitt23]

9 minutes haha well not much going to be shown there plus no new games will be shown which is absolutely pointless

[LucasRuinedChildhood]

I assume this is purely just the tech overview. He did the same thing for the base PS5. There's a rumoured separate event for games.

[RaidenBlack]

Apparently a SoP is rumored to follow a week later

[outsider1624]

8 mins of the Pro. 1 min of Knack 3 Baby!!

[neutralgamer1992]

Outsider

Don’t play with me boy!

[DarXyde]

Absolutely. When you break out Cerny, you've got some technical talk incoming.

He's about to blow the doors off PSSR.

Aaaaand.... Backwards compatibility?

[seanpitt23]

Yeah but we need the new games to show off all the technical talk and how much powerful this console is, like a new ghost of tsushima running on pro that gives us a insight of what's it's capable of.

[jznrpg]

@seanpitt23 that will be the SoP probably in a week or so

[DarXyde]

seanpitt23,

Sure. I've made that point in another article that they need to have something to show off what they're getting with a Pro model because it graphics and Tflops have diminishing returns.

My guess was a focus on more ray tracing, frame rate, and PSSR to showcase.

I also expect they might show games that have released already so people can see the difference with games they know well (Spider-Man 2, I suspect).

But more than anything, I'm expecting a brief demonstration for games running UE5 to showcase games using the full feature set of the engine at 60fps.

[darthv72]

Sweet. He can say quite a bit in 9 minutes. And its likely there will be an extended stream for another time too.

[Flewid638]

Sounds like it.

[LG_Fox_Brazil]

It's time!

[RaidenBlack]

Sony accidentally leaked "PS5 Pro" via an unlisted YT video :
https://x.com/Wario64/statu...
somebody at Sony might've confused 'unlisted' with 'private'
context : the term 'PS5 Pro' have not been officially confirmed or mentioned in any capacity, anywhere till now.

[RaidenBlack]

Cerny went straight to the point

[RaidenBlack]

Popcorn!
Get popcorn with extra butter !!!
edit : wait, just 9-minutes? .... a medium bucket then?

[ocelot07]

They really only need 5? Here's the ps5 pro it has this inside it. It costs this much. It releases on this date. Pre orders are live on this date. Here is a quick video of Helldivers 2 running at 4k 120fps. Here is astro bot running at 8k using our new upscaling technology.

[RaidenBlack]

Cerny's ASMR neuro-processor takes extra 2mins to prelude and 2mins to conclude

[Rainbowcookie]

@Raidenblack that was before his firmware update.😆

[I_am_Batman]

That would take more than 5 minutes. I want to see them make a proper case for it by showing me how much I'd benefit from upgrading. If PSSR is the main selling point I want to know how widespread the support for it will be.

[porkChop]

Helldivers 2 running 4K/120 is wishful thinking lol. The Pro doesn't have much of a CPU upgrade, just a slightly higher boot clock. Helldivers 2's quality mode is currently 1728p/30, so realistically you'll probably see 4K/30, possibly a 4K/40 mode too, with some visual upgrades from the PC version.

[Einhander1972]

@porkChop

"Helldivers 2 running 4K/120 is wishful thinking lol"

Do you understand what upscaling does?

I am not saying that Helldivers 2 will get a 120 fps mode, but the CPU is not going to be nearly as restristing as digital foundry tried to mislead people into believing when PSSR upscaling is implemented.

Upscaling being able to allow 50% improvement in frame rate is common and getting close to double the framerate is easily within the realm of possibility. DLSS 3 in simulations can more than triple framerate.

[MrNinosan]

They won't talk price or release date tomorrow.

[porkChop]

@Einhander

"Upscaling being able to allow 50% improvement in frame rate is common and getting close to double the framerate is easily within the realm of possibility."

Sure, but 30 to 120 is quadrupling the framerate. That isn't happening. And yes DLSS 3.5 can *sometimes* triple the framerate, but that's specifically through frame generation, not just upscaling. It also introduces a ton of input latency. But all the leaks about PSSR have talked about it being AI-based upscaling, there has been zero mention of frame generation.

I mean we'll find out more tomorrow but you're basing your comment on technology that PSSR might not even have.

[Eonjay]

Sounds like the show is intended to just verify specs. Hopefully we don't have to wait till next SoP to see games running on it.

[porkChop]

Yeah I'd think there'd definitely be a SoP this month. It'd be a bit weird to just be like "This is the console, these are the specs, here's the price, go buy it."

[Father__Merrin]

Ps5 pro for definatly but I don't think they will call it pro. They need to return to outrageous naming Ps5-X all it needs is a little extra power and having advance upscaling built in.

Having something too much power is diminishing returns. Anyone tht has a pc also can affirm that it's more the tech behind it

[northpaws]

So you prefer a small upgrade over a big upgrade? I don't quite understand your statement.

[I_am_Batman]

Proper upsampling requires engine integration. Having a much higher RT boost than rasterization, means more work for the devs in creating a custom PS5 Pro build of the game. The more extra work you put on developers, the higher the chance that games won't utilize the full potential of the hardware. Utilizing an increase in raw performance is always gonna be easier, especially in the age of dynamic resolution scaling.

With that said, I wasn't that hyped for the Pro based on the leaked specs, but I'm willing to change my mind provided they make a strong case for it. We'll know more tomorrow.

[crazyCoconuts]

Seeing how incredible DLSS is with Nvidia, if it approaches that, it'll be worth it. AMD has been woefully behind in this area. DLSS is so good it practically negates the need for full 4K rendering.

[I_am_Batman]

@crazyCoconuts: Yeah, I don't doubt it's gonna be better than FSR, otherwise there wouldn't have been a point in developing a proprietary solution to begin with.

[Christopher]

The leaked YouTube video called it PS5 Pro.

[MrNinosan]

It will be called PS5 Pro, as certain as the next PS will be called Playstation 6.

[MrNinosan]

What do you mean by returning to outrageous naming?
Do you confuse Playstation with Nintendo or Xbox?

Home Console:
Playstation
PS One
Playstation 2
Playstation 2 Slim
Playstation 3
Playstation 3 Slim
Playsatation 3 "Super Slim" (was still called just Slim)
Playstation 4
Playstation 4 Slim
Playstation 4 Pro
Playstation 5
Playstation 5 "Slim" (just called Playstation 5)

Portable:
Playstation Portal
Playstation Portal Slim
Playstation Portal GO
Playstation Vita Oled
Playstation Vita

Home Console:
Nintendo
Super Nintendo
Nintendo 64
GameCube
Nintendo Wii
Nintendo Wii U

Portable:
Game Boy
Game Boy Pocket
Game Boy Light
Game Boy Color
Game Boy Advance
Game Boy Advance SP
Game Boy Micro
Nintendo DS
Nintendo DS Lite
Nintendo DSi
Nintendo DSi XL
Nintendo 3DS
Nintendo 3DS XL
Nintendo 2DS
New Nintendo 3DS
New Nintendo 3DS XL
New Nintendo 2DS XL
Nintendo Switch
Nintendo Switch Lite
Nintendo Switch Oled

Home Console:
Xbox
Xbox 360
Xbox 360 S
Xbox 360 E
Xbox One
Xbox One S
Xbox One S All Digital
Xbox One X
Xbox Series S
Xbox Series X

[Inverno]

I don't care for a pro model, I'm hoping for that rumoured handheld to be true

[jznrpg]

I want a handheld as well but I think it would be a little better to launch it with PS6 and have some compatibility however they want to do that. I’m getting the Pro day 1 but I’d buy a handheld day 1 as well.

[RaidenBlack]

Handheld compatible with PS6?
As in sharing the gen with PS6?
That'd be same as Series S holding back the Series X.

[Inverno]

One with a PS6 that plays all the PS5/PS4 games would be an instant buy from me

[crazyCoconuts]

C'mon, no handheld is being announced tomorrow

[porkChop]

Sony has already made it clear that they won't take resources away from their console business to support a handheld. It would just end up like the Vita, only getting games from their B teams and very few games at that.

[Einhander1972]

"Sony has already made it clear that they won't take resources away from their console business to support a handheld."

Sony also didn't expect the the Portal to outsell Xbox consoles.

"It would just end up like the Vita, only getting games from their B teams and very few games at that."

The rumor is it would natively play PS4 and maybe even PS5 games, something that should be possible for a device that releasing in 3 - 4 years.

[90sGamingWasBetter]

Interesting, very interesting.

[gold_drake]

omg. yes, ps5 pro
Mark Cerny is fantastic
ill probably watch it when i get a chance to.

[Whitey2k]

I cannot wait I wanna see the console. Despite the cpu but this is the biggest upgrade compared to ps4 and ps4 pro

[JohnnyRambo]

It gonna be = to a mid range PC graphics card of today but next generation graphjics cards are right around the corner so will speed ahead once again. It will be a good uplift for console players but games will also be limited by a bit of a lacking CPU considering it is still zen 2 from 2019. So framerate will be a limiting factor again.

[Whitey2k]

Unless sony does something with aging zen 2. But should be enough for atleast 4k 60 or 120 and should iron out existing titles that ps5 struggled with. Also I Wanna see how this pssr plays out if it's similar or better then dlls if they did have to lower resolution

[Aloymetal]

Let's go!!

[XBManiac]

Loving Mark Cerny since... around 1982... He's THE ONE.

[shadowT]

can't wait!

[Rainbowcookie]

Whoop whoop

[Chocoburger]

Ready for the 5 Pro!
Remember, there's no need to complain about it if you don't want it, just skip it entirely and you won't lose out on games. As for me, I've always known this was coming, so I've been waiting for it before I jump into the PS5 gen.

[dveio]

Let's go, Mark!

[jznrpg]

There it is!
I’ll wait to play some newer games on the Pro but I have a big backlog to keep me busy until then.
SoP will be sometime soon I’m sure

Cerny is the man.

[DivineHand125]

How much do you think it will cost guys? $600, $700 or $800. You are going to have to think about how much you are willing to spend from now because the scalpers will also be watching.

[RaidenBlack]

600 ~ 650 without the disk drive version

[purple101]

THEY WILL SELL NONE, $499 or $599 with disk. has to be $500 or it dont sell, to all but a few collectors.

[Eonjay]

I'm gonna us past a precedence here $549 for digital and $599 for Disc.

[Destiny1080]

599 without a disc drive and 699 with a disc drive

[Bathyj]

Yep

[Eonjay]

That doesn't make sense. The Slim disc is only $50 more than Slim Digital.

[ZacultronTheFirst]

Don't know why but i have a feeling that they are gonna announce Venom expansion alongside just like Miles Morales for PS5.

But even more crazy,i feel like they'll be releasing Wolvering as launch window game,unrealistic i know.

[MaximusPrime_]

If it's not going to be PS5 Pro, just let Sony do their job.

[andy85]

Always a good watch when Cerny is involved. He knows his shit and is a big gamer

[Cockney]

His passion and enthusiasm are infectious

[Aloymetal]

I could listen to him all day long lol.

[Bathyj]

Seen that road to post about 6 times. A lot of people said it was boring but I thought it was so interesting and in hindsight everything he said came to pass.

[RhinoGamer88]

So if you have a PS5 like most of us, what do you do with it when you buy the Pro for $600+?
I need a $300 minimum. Gamestop?

[VersusDMC]

Sell it on Facebook Marketplace, kijiji, Craigslist, etc. At 300 it should get sold quick. Gamestop in canada(maybe US as well) has trade in deals occasionally for consoles (extra 50 or 100)that should get you to 300 and over.

[Eonjay]

GameStop is offering 300 I believe. I think they offer 350 in you are a Pro member

[Demetrius]

Hopefully the ps5 pro is definitely a step not only in graphics but gameplay advantages, because the ps5 is already dope as it is but most devs barely have taken advantage

[Elda]

I want to pre-order asap!!

[Travesty]

It’s about time. I’m assuming it’ll be mostly about the PS5 Pro. I will be getting one, I was trying to withhold from buying another PS5 since mine got stolen.

[sagapo]

This has to be the pro reveal. I hope features are shown, not just hardware specs.

[Eonjay]

Same. Or at least give us some kind of follow up after the tech talk. Perhaps a trailer showcasing upgraded games. We shouldn't expect any new games until SoP.

[purple101]

knowing Mark Cerney he'll practically show you the blueprints

[purple101]

it's about to kick off.

[victorMaje]

The one. The only.
Bring the rain!

[Ninver]

"Kept you waiting huh?" - snake

[Retroman]

Whatever Tech installed in PSpro will be in PS6
I bet

[Goodguy01]

Technical and with Mark obviously means new hardware. I wonder how big a jump the pro will be and at what price. $600 or even $700 seem likely considering the base ps5 still costs $500.

[Firebird360]

I'm expecting a gta6 gameplay reveal.

[Hofstaderman]

That would be the cherry on the cake

[Profchaos]

PlayStation 32x incoming

[purple101]

PS5 Pro comes with an improved DualSense—more battery life and enhanced triggers!

[Profchaos]

A 9 minute stream? Really can't increasing that a little maybe throw in a game reveal give me a reason why I want it

[MehmetAlperTR]

SSD SSD SSD SSD SSD but can work on normal HDD !!!

[MehmetAlperTR]

LoL dissagrees for what ?!!! for working on normal HDD ???!! Ahahahaha

[UltimateRacer]

Looking forward to it.

[Deathdeliverer]

Thank God for good credit, good credit limits, and good pay. Day one.

[PRIMORDUS]

Never liked Cerny or Phil the shit bag Spencer. Talking about how the tech. in PS5 at launch was only possible on PS5, like the Tempest 3D engine, which was already there in sound blaster cards, like the AE-5, AE-7, AE-9. Now the SSD's speeds which are pci-e 4.0 were on PC boards in 2019. Direct Storage or something similar could have been done before consoles to take advantage of the M.2 drives at that time, but the lazy ass game industry just sat on their asses. The point is the tech. was already there and it's nothing new. I can imagine the load of bullshit on the PS5 Pro reveal. 🤣 Let the downvotes begin, ready, go! LOL.

[fsfsxii]

Terminal virginity

[dveio]

"Now the SSD's speeds which are pci-e 4.0 were on PC boards in 2019."

If a game's engine isn't designed to fully or even half capitalize on an SSD's performance capabilities, you could have even used them in 2014 already and wouldn't benefit from anything.

Coding is engineering is addressing hardware cleverly.

[Ethereal]

Wishlist for this presentation: 1) Unveil a substantial firmware update with lots of customization options (Explore Tab, Dynamic Wallpapers, Folders) and QOL improvements. 2) Coming along with this update is complete backward capability for the entire PS library (physical) to celebrate the 30 year anniversary. 3) PS5 Pro.

[Chocoburger]

You'll only get the last point on your wishlist.

Firmwares are usually discussed on the blog.

PS6 may finally offer up a PS3 emulator, but 5 Pro CPU isn't powerful enough.

[Ethereal]

One could only wish!

[Good-Smurf]

10 PM in Thailand.
Only 9 minutes presentation so not expecting too much out of it.
Any Mark Cerny tech presentation is worth watching to me.

[dveio]

I am almost more excited to hear Cerny talk through it again than seeing the device itself.

[repsahj]

Tomorrow for PS5 Pro reveal!?!?!? LET'S GO!!!

[gigoran8]

likely pre orders open or maybe a date they will start?

[Rebel_Scum]

Hope they fix the fucking wired ln connection from disconnecting and reconnecting all the friggin time.

[kindi_boy]

I can't wait for every fanboy to pretend they have a Computer Science degree again

[hiawa23]

Happy PS5 Pro Day, gamers🤗

[gold_drake]

800!!!!!! euros
fuck my life.

[blady_man]

Are u kidding me? I was expecting £500 to £550 but £699! Are u crazy?

[LoveSpuds]

Yeah, I consider myself to be something of a PlayStation fan but I simply cannot see me dropping 700 quid on a console and it's even more unlikely if there is any truth to the lack of a disk drive.

[blady_man]

Yeah, i bought every psn console since the ps1 but this i will pass. There is no way thag this is worth £699. With an overall performance boost of 30 to 40% there is no way this should be this expensive, also the luck of info of storeage in worrysome!!

[dveio]

So, where was the disk drive?

[hiawa23]

I think the disk drive attaches like the Slim and is probably included in the higher tier price.

[dveio]

It seems to be officially confirmed the PS5 Pro is digital only.

Edit: appearantly with the disc drive being sold seperately.

[hiawa23]

That was beautiful. Where can I pre-order?