Game Pass Announcement Eases Some Pressures At Xbox But Adds Some Elsewhere

The Xbox Game Pass price increase puts the pressure solely on management and hopefully eases concerns for the studios.

[purple101]

Ahh yes, trying to spin the price increase as positive

Who posted this?

[gold_drake]

interesting

they removed the posters name on published articles until they get approved it seems.

[shinoff2183]

That kinda makes sense though. What if someone publishes something interesting but it was published by someone who generally gets hated on. Alot of us gamers are petty or can be.

Ps no I didn't publish this

[darthv72]

Its always been like that... for as long as I've been a member at least.

[monkey602]

That has always been the case

[Outside_ofthe_Box]

^^^

It has not always been like that. People use to bitch about who submitted the article and report it for ___blank___ member having an agenda

[darthv72]

@outside... well things were different back in the bubble days, but since the remodel its been the same ever since. Which includes not knowing who submitted an article until after approval. I can't remember when it was remodeled but it had to be 10 years ago...?

I'm going on close to 17 years as a member... it will be 17 on the 30th of this month.

[CrashMania]

How does increasing the price and removing day one games for the 'standard' tier relieve pressure? But if you look at the article writer it tells you what you need to know lol.

[lelo2play]

Don't want Gamepass, then purchase the game...
There is always that option.

[MrDead]

So MS is getting their userbase to pay more to cover MS buying publishers that already sold games on Xbox, but Xbox is too weak of a platform to cover the cost so price increases, thousands fired, studios closed and games cancelled... it wouldn't surprise me if Xbox live turns to an Ubisoft style tiers pricing system, pay walling content for the highest paying subscribers.

...Microsoft are the worse thing to ever happen to gaming.

[gold_drake]

its odd strategy to increase prices by that much after ... everything.

one more nail in their coffin.

[Einhander1972]

Isn't it interesting how when PlayStation raised it's price every website under the sun was calling them anti-consumer calling for boycotts and more. Yet Microsoft has raised it's price twice since then (more if you count regional increases) and yet I haven't seen a single article that is more than the least bit critical of them.

In fact I what I see is cope articles like this basically trying to set the narrative that this is all fine blah blah blah.

How about an article talking about how less than two months ago Microsoft was assuring people they weren't going to create a second tier for Call of Duty? Much like 6 months before they closed Arkane they were telling everyone they weren't going to close Arkane. And ya know what, none of those statement were received by any skepticism by sites like this.

Ya know, how many times does Microsoft get to mislead at best or just flat out lie at worse before people and specifically the gaming media start calling out their B.S. and quit acting like they need to exist and that they aren't harming the industry.

The worst part is that many people foresaw every single thing that has happened, the layoffs the studio closures the price increases and the unsustainability of of a service like game pass while also questioning the the truthfulness of the things that Microsoft was saying. And those people were constantly met with hostility but those people were right nearly 100 percent of the time going back to the day they announced game pass.

[GeeEssEff]

Nowadays it’s a pretty safe bet to assume that if Phil Spencer, Matt Booty or Sarah Bond say one thing, Xbox will do the complete opposite within 2-6 months time.

[OlderGamer17]

So according to you, Spencer, Booty and Bond have no saying in this...Xbox is part of MS and those 3 are running MS gaming, the studio's and Xbox gaming....in this order...

[ChasterMies]

Microsoft is a $3T company. They can spend more on PR than Sony.

[Rude-ro]

They own media outlets and have re-written the book on modern day marketing/media tactics.
Basically they wrote the art of war for marketing in the digital/media world.

[S2Killinit]

The silver linning is that these practices by MS have caught up with them, xbox’ good-will with console gaming consumers is potentially irreparable at this point. They have lied so often that what they say is no longer believed at face value. They play bait and switch, trojan horse games with their base and over time people lose trust, even if they don’t ever admit it.

[purple101]

It was irreparable since halo infinite

That was their chance to win back Xbox nay-sayers

It’s been a slow, sinking ship since that point

[Reaper22_]

"The worst part is that many people foresaw every single thing that has happened, the layoffs the studio closures the price increases and the unsustainability of of a service like game pass while also questioning the the truthfulness of the things that Microsoft was saying."

Lol..what the hell are you talking about? You're actually giving people credit for predicting a price increase on a game service. Did you think it was gonna get cheaper? And you guys still on unsustainability dream. If it was true gamepass would of been gone already. Microsoft is making a lot of money with gamepass. It sounds like some of you are in serious denial about that. Google it. They made over 2.7 Billion last year.

[Einhander1972]

So , what you're saying is... Game pass is making money but they are still closing studios laying off thousands of people from their gaming division AND raising prices multiple times and paywalling day one games?

I can see why you support them... It's not like pointing all that out doesn't make it seem even worse, right?

[Cockney]

That was revenue, at this rate it'll take decades for them to claw back the 80 billion they spent, I'd say that's unsustainable

[Reaper22_]

Show us where websites were calling sony anti-consumer and calling for
boycotts and more. Post the link. I wanna read them.

[Einhander1972]

Baldur's Gate 3 was a game that was held back because of the series s.

[Einhander1972]

@AsimLionheart

https://media3.giphy.com/me...

[DivineHand125]

People will not be happy with the price increase. I am still not happy with the increase to ps+. I would be even more upset with the price increases if there was no other alternative to get a subscription.

It seems Phil Spenser and his team hates the Xbox.

Gamepass starter $14.99 without dayone games.
Gamepass PC $12.99 with dayone games.

Once again the industry is pushing us to the PC.

[purple101]

yes almost like they planned it, they want all games developed with pc/xbox in mind with their monopoly on direct x, and as a result, game development tools and licensing of direct X (educated guess). they want all games on unreal engine, or one of their owned engines, now they got Bethesda, they got
1. creation engine
2. ID TECH engine 7,8,9, etc,
3. Arkanes home made 'Void' engine,
3. Infinity wards IW engine
many more I recon

what they DEFINITELY DON'T WANT
is open source engines like unity
or any competitors engines such as Sonys Decimal, Sony Santa Monicas 'Kinetica' game engine or anything form naughty dog of insomniac

their in a bit of a pickle though, (I guess) as 2k will never let them get their sticky little mitts on their R.A.G.E. engine
I think eta will always be multiplat, its one ip, you just dont sell, even to the highest bidder, you keep that to your self, at all costs, its there biggest piece of entertainment in history, dollar wise, name recognition wise, he who owns, GTA, holds the power.

this is my views,

[Sonic1881]

Gamepass standard makes no sense 😑

[VersusDMC]

Xbox live gold subscribers now get counted as gamepass subscribers so it inflates the gamepass numbers.

It's an excuse to cancel games with gold and stop the monthly mocking they got over the game selection.

And if it doesn't make sense to you because of the lack of value...it pushes people to gamepass ultimate.

Makes sense to me.

[DodoDojo]

No that already happened months ago when they replaced Gold with Gamepass Core.

[VersusDMC]

@ dodo - His comment said core instead of standard before the edit.

Standard still makes sense like ps extra makes sense though. It better come down in price because PSextra is way better than standard now if it has no day one games while still costing way more.

[Sonic1881]

Core doesn't make sense either. Tbh it feels like Microsoft is confused and don't know what they're doing

[S2Killinit]

Oh boy, didn’t people warn the xbox fans from the very beginning that this was going to happen to them?

Xbox consumer will son have “the option” to buy packages. Which package you want? Do you want the rpg package? The sport package? Wow so much options.

[DodoDojo]

Everyone knew it was coming, Phil said "somethings got to give" and here it is. The service is bleeding money and they're banking on games like Cod to make the service more profitable, I don't see it working out.

[Gameseeker_Frampt]

I'm sure having less customers will do wonders for easing pressure

[PhillyDonJawn]

Before today: ppl shouldn't sub to gamepass, it's bad for the devs, it's unsustainable, it's bad for the industry they're practically giving games aways free. Devs hard work isn't being rewarded by putting it on a dirt cheap sub.

After today: ms screwing fans over, it's overpriced, you gotta pay more for the same.

Lol, make up yall mind

[anast]

This article is actually saying: "We think 'you're' stupid."

[Nerdmaster]

The increase is of course bad, but it wouldn't bother me so much if.... I could actually use the damn thing.
My PC Xbox App breaks at least once a month, and I waste so much time and energy trying to reinstall it, troubleshooting, deleting and reinstalling the game service etc.

[Reaper22_]

Einhander

"So , what you're saying is... Game pass is making money but they are still closing studios laying off thousands of people from their gaming division AND raising prices multiple times and paywalling day one games?

I can see why you support them... It's not like pointing all that out doesn't make it seem even worse, right?"

Pointing out what? Raising prices isn't anything new or unexpected. If anyone thought Microsoft wasn't going to raise gamepass price they're just plain stupid. It's a business.

As far as them laying off studios and making money. Yes, you can still be profitable and lay off people. Ford, GM and other car makers do it all the time. Amazon , Tesla, Google and yes even sony lay people off. I play xbox and that's mean I support them. It doesn't mean I support everything they do. I'm just expressing my views on their right to do what they want with what they own and why so many playstaion gamers act like Sony has never done similar things. Microsoft is no angel but some here act like gamepass price raise is the end of the world when they don't even play xbox. That's why I say if you don't like what they offer then don't buy it. Microsoft doesn't force anyone to buy xbox or gamepass.

[Einhander1972]

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[HansyJ]

American companies ruin everything m