Finally, Xbox convinced me Game Pass is a must-have

This year's Xbox Showcase had plenty of standout titles, and it's finally been enough to sway me on Game Pass.

[InUrFoxHole]

They absolutely crushed with GP

[Obscure_Observer]

"They absolutely crushed with GP"

Indeed.

It only got better and better over the years as more and more quality AAA games from both first and third party are coming to Gamepass day one!

Like I said before, Gamepass is just too good to be truth.

[Silly Mammo]

If Xbox had an infomercial, Obscure wouldn't be the pitchman, he would be the guy who's astonished at all the wondrous things the product can do.
"Wait. So you're telling me all these games come to GP day one? And all I have to do is pay a monthly subscriber fee?..."

[dekke]

@Obscure_Observer

how u arent banned here yet ? :D

[4Sh0w]

GP easily continues to be the best deal in gaming for me. If you'd told me 10 yrs ago I'd be able to play all these indie, retro and $60, $70 new realeased games on DAY 1, now including COD for a very reasonable sub fee I would of said wth you been smoking?...but here we are. I'm luving GP.

[Charal]

GP is killing your beloved studios and game development budgets. You are killing your hobby. But hell, as you fanboys are delusional it is useless to discuss, even after all what happened this year
So yeah, continue to enjoy your “best deal ever”. At some point of time, you will get what you pay for , no more, no less, like in every other business.

[StormSnooper]

Haha yeaaa no.

[InUrFoxHole]

Which of the following applies most to you?
1. You'd rather pay full price for a game to support the company and devs
2. Prefer physical media
3. Are a troll

[StormSnooper]

4. None of those. It’s pure math for me. For me, it doesn’t make financial sense because I end up wanting games that are not on offer.

Since my time is valuable, and I have limited time to play, I would end up paying more by being subscribed AND purchasing at least two games per year that are not offered on service. I would still be playing the same amount of gaming, but paying more if I’m subscribed to gamepass.

[StormSnooper]

Also, as to this ridiculous article:

This author saw a showcase filled with multiplatform games, and decided to buy gamepass? How many of these games are even releasing at the moment? He would probably be waiting many months for each of them. It’s just a stupid article at best, or worse, it’s banking on peoples’ stupidity. Just saying.

[InUrFoxHole]

I hear you man GP isn't for everyone. Good to have options. I've seen some just come and go as they please when the games are right for them. Glad they haven't blocked that option

[CobraKai]

1, 2, but i agree with Storm Snooper. Financially it’s better for me to buy games than pay for game pass. When i had GP from MS’ trial offers or $1 for a month deal, i barely used it and when i did it was for 1 game. A lot of these games coming are going in my collection to be played and replayed when i can.

[Profchaos]

Yeah I'll take 2 Number 9's, a number 9 large, number 6 with extra dip

[Lightning77]

Explain your reasoning.

[XiNatsuDragnel]

Gamepass is dependent on the games you see if you don't like them too bad.

[Sonic1881]

Basically. What I do is if I don't have enough Microsoft points, I just sign-up for a month on PC, depending on if there's a game that I'm interested in. Once I beat the game I unsubcribe before the month is over. When I played Hellblade 2 I actually had enough points in my account to play that game for free. Sometimes when you're about to unsubcribe Microsoft will give you a free month to stay subscribe. That's how it works on PC. I can't speak on Xbox gamepass. I like the fact you can cancel the month to month subscription anytime or turn off the payment option. But you're still saving money instead of paying $70 dollars for a game

[crazyCoconuts]

From a PC perspective at $120/year if it includes COD which I would normally pay for every year, hell yeah it's a bargain.
On console it's not quite as great + $204/year (core is overpriced to subsidize GP)

[Snookies12]

You can buy Game Pass Ultimate on sale too. CDKeys has 3 month cards constantly on sale. I got multiple of the 3 month ones for like $23 each. That's $8 a month. Which is an incredible value, I don't care who you are.

[ChiefofLoliPolice]

"which is a incredible value" yeah to you. With that price that's pretty good cheap way to get gamepass but that's still dependent on if the games on gamepass are even worth it you.

[crazyCoconuts]

True. I just don't usually take the sometimes dubious deals into account because ymmv on that stuff. Just looked there today for PC GamePass and the deal only worked for new users

[DivineHand125]

Exactly, if pricing is an issue there is always a way to get a subscription cheaper. I even see 1 month gamepass deals under $5 sometimes. This is the power of giving customers options while on PlayStation, PSN essential on sale is $65. Gone are the days when I could buy the annual membership for $45 on Black Friday or during days of play. My subscription has lapsed and I will not be renewing. I am also looking into building a more powerful PC one part at a time.

[ChasterMies]

$204 for Game Pass Ultimate is a lot to ask. As a frugal gamer, I can get a lot for my money by waiting for games to go on sale. I know a lot of gamers want day one released, but I think anyone willing to spend that much on Game Pass already has it. I also think that if Game Pass starts eating into Microsoft’s 1st party game sales, then Microsoft will delay Game Pass releases or jack up the price. We’re still in new territory, so we’ll see.

[MrDead]

You're forgetting the other costs, studios like Tango being closed and thousands losing their jobs.

[blacktiger]

you don't own it and there for you cant sell it either, digital games should be able to transfer ownership too

[BeRich233]

Console gamepass is $10.99/mo. So around $131/year plus tax. Ultimate is $16.99 monthly so $204 /year
Core is $9.99 mo

[Eonjay]

With the acquisitions MS has made, they have more than enough content to support GamePass. And with the addition of Call of Duty, we can finally see if GamePass can attract enough subscribers to be solvent and profitable in the long run.

[crazyCoconuts]

Even after Netflix's meteoric ride, there was a reconciliation of price increases and expense reduction after the growth tapered off. Are we thinking this could precipitate such a rise for GP?

[Eonjay]

Exactly. Honestly I don't belive it can. But they will try and they do have the ability to provide content assuming that was gonna open the door to more subs.

[SimpleDad]

They did it!

[UltimateOwnage]

lol. Nah

[matt139]

Sony really needs to get their act together, their shows have been dreadful in comparison.

[MrNinosan]

What does that have to do with GamePass?

[KyRo]

Literally everyone is saying it. Even PS die hards are saying it. This so far has been Sony's worst generation for big, first party exclusives. I'm not the biggest Xbox fan but I feel that showcase yesterday should have kicked Sony up the arse and get it's PS3/PS4 era attitude back.

[romulus23]

@KyRo

You do realize that a large portion of those games from that showcase yesterday are also coming to PS, right?

[Charlieboy333]

@ Kyro "This so far has been Sony's worst generation for big, first party exclusives". Oh really. I know I'm asking a lot here, but try and think back to the PS4 generation. Hell, even the PS3 generation. Now......when did most of the "big, first party exclusives" come out on them?

Was it the first half or the second half of the generation? If you said 'second half' you would be correct!! We are only going to be entering the second half of the gen at the end of this year! So what the fuck are you even talking about? Instead of being a drama queen, let's just wait and see what happens before you look like a complete fool.

[Chryzz23]

People worried about paying a huge price yearly but only if people knew about Gamivo, G2A, Kinguin and other website like this because they have crazy sales and you can get 1 year of Ultimate Gamepass for $45 like i did 3 days ago

[Brazz]

Nop, not even close. Xbox is great at making shows and promises, i will wait to see they delivering great games before jumping on GP.

[CPTN MITCHELL]

No is not, my son bought a series s for $100 and 3 months of gameass premium and neither him or my self have spent more than 1hr playing it, the service is bot all that and i Rather buy than it'd rent

[Elda]

GP will be great to have in 2025 seeing most of the appealing titles from the XB showcase will drop on the service next year. I'll definitely be paying for another year.

[thesoftware730]

Elda,
So for this year, 2024

Age of Mythology,
Avowed
Indiana Jones
Stalker 2
Flight sim 2024
Cod: Black ops
Flintlock

I'm not throwing out a compare list, but I'm curious if all these, along with the normal additions and updates to existing games, are not good enough for a sub this year. I recall you saying you play the Cod campaign, right(I might be wrong)? That alone is $70.

[Elda]

Stalker 2 & the campaign of COD definitely have my interest in playing through Gamepass. I didn't know Flintlock was releasing on GP so that has my interest as well. I may demo Indiana Jones & Avowed but they're not on my priority to play list because the gameplay just doesn't look that interesting to me. The other 2 titles you have on your list I have no interest in playing.

[PhillyDonJawn]

I wanna cry. All those look good but I don't have the time to game like I use to. It hurts my soul honestly.

[VersusDMC]

It will still be a rental service for me. Get a month, beat the game and get a refund for the remaining days of the month.

Did it for only Like a dragon gaiden and Persona 3 Reload in the last 12 months.

[LabRat]

I didn't know you could get a refund on gamepass?

[VersusDMC]

I do it through Microsoft.com.
Go into you account, chose subscriptions, chose cancel and then it gives you the option to refund rest of the month or let it run till the end of the month.

I usually pay 11.99 CAN for gamepass and get a 8 CAN refund. Depends on how long it takes to beat the game.

[LabRat]

That's good to know, thanks

[thesoftware730]

But you are not supporting the developers by doing that, am I right?

You are contributing to the downfall of gaming being led by MS by doing that.

Please stop.

[VersusDMC]

The developers got my support by a new game pass sign up, downloading the game and finishing it. That has to be the metric for how they get bonuses. And if that isn't enough then they shouldn't have put the game on gamepass.

Me keeping the sub active without any other games i want to play is just giving Microsoft money for nothing.

[thesoftware730]

Haha, I agree with you 100%.

I was being sarcastic(not well done, I'm guessing).

[shinoff2183]

Or you could just buy the games.

[MetroidFREAK21]

Rather buy and own the game personally, but if you use GP, good for you. More power to you

[ChiefofLoliPolice]

Agreed.

[XiNatsuDragnel]

Agreed I rather buy and own my property and have complete control than renting gamepass or you know modern oh you have to download to make it work

[tombfan]

Still not onto it... So look, I'm not a physicall lover, i love digital games, but EVEN THEN i appreciate having a more "OWNSERSHIP" of things. GamePass is just a rental service.

[Reaper22_]

Lol.. just because you have a disc doesn't mean you own a game. That's not how software works. It's all a rental service.

[shinoff2183]

This has been proven false time and time again. What they gonna do break down my door and take their disc back. Wtf are you even going on about. Not every game needs updates to work. Doesitplay.org
Shows this, some do need most do not. If I can start and finish a game without issue I'm buying physical. They cannot take your physical away

[MetroidFREAK21]

Not true

[XiNatsuDragnel]

False they're game you own and man not everything is Activision

[Terry_B]

Lol no..its more shit from videogamer :-)

[CrimsonWing69]

Yea, who would’ve thought actually having good games would make people want to check out your console?

[ChiefofLoliPolice]

Nah Game pass is still not for me. The show was good I won't deny but I only saw three must have games. I'd rather own my games then have them tied to a subscription.

[MaximusPrime_]

Something for Xbox owners to cheer about. Am happy for them. Its a long time coming.

[djl3485]

The current GP model is not sustainable. The price is going to jump up significantly in the near future.

[yeahokwhatever]

if i didnt have a ton of expendable income i certainly would not have gamepass like i do now. its mediocre. not terrible.

[ocelot07]

Much rather just pay for my games than rent. Like I have done for 20+ years.

The thing with gamepass. They really need millions to sub for month after month. I'm willing to bet millions just sub for a month when a new big release arrives like have done in the past. Last year I managed to play Starfield and Forza on a single month of GP and have not subbed since.

[PhillyDonJawn]

Around 27 million subscribers monthly

[HankHill]

That's a no from me, dog.

[franwex]

Maybe not to anyone in this website, but game pass has always been a phenomenal deal.

It’s like 30 years ago when you were able to rent games at the video store, except unlimited rentals for a flat monthly fee. No you’re not going to rent the entire store to make it worth it, just what you find interesting at that moment along with some new releases. To more casual players it’s a good deal.

[shinoff2183]

But your still only renting what Ms picks for you. You've no choice

[franwex]

I guess it’s subjective, but they’re not bad picks.

[BillyCrystals]

No, I prefer to support devs and not rent games for a not low price of $17 a month.

[Reaper22_]

You're still supporting the devs if you're playing the game through a subscription. That doesn't mean that you won't buy the game. I've bought a lot of games mostly because of my gamepass subscription. Games I probably would of never even tried if it wasn't for gamepass. Plus you get them at a discounted price price because of y our subscription. There are negatives but the positives far outweigh them for me.

[XiNatsuDragnel]

Are you sure about that man? Because buying you're guaranteeing than gamepass it's like Netflix volatile asf

[Petebloodyonion]

Here's a straightforward concept: if you utilize something, it holds value; if not, it's a squandered investment.

This is akin to purchasing a video game. If you play the game, you can consider it a return on your investment, whereas if you never play it, it's essentially money down the drain.

[Dandizzle]

My favorite thing about gamepass is how it creates these folders on your PC you cannot access or even remove later after uninstalling the game. I also love how gamepass doesn't allow you to verify your files. So enjoy a full redownload should anything become corrupted

[Reaper22_]

Gamepass has always been great for me. And with what was shown on Sunday it's gonna get even better. India Jones, Perfect Dark, Black Ops 6, State of Decay , Gears and Fable. That's a killer lineup. I have gamepass but I'll still buy those games. Don't have to but I will. That's one of the best thing about the service.

[OhReginald]

You took the bait. That's what they want. That's why MS spent over 100 billion on acquisitions. Then your at the mercy of their service when you want to play anything.

[gold_drake]

ehhhh
sure, jen.

[The-VG-shamman]

Hope you all realize this plainly indicates a price increase for the subscription in the future. Seeing all of these new titles release day 1 is basically doubling down on game pass and ignoring game performances. All the games will have the quality impact other projects as a whole. Xbox will be like Netflix.

[neomahi]

You're gonna pick a side. You either like Game Pass or your support developers. Layoffs everyone's complaining about is because of Game Pass, that's and Xbox is still searching for it's very own Insomniac, Naughty Dog, and Santa Monica. You can't have it both ways. You'll either be a cheapskate or support developers. I buy games to support developers and good games. It's also how we vote in this, apparent democracy. Game Pass benefits Xbox, not the developers that fall prey to it. If Xbox wanted to, they could have probably worked out a Game Pass option for PlayStation that only applies to Xbox's first-party games and didn't mess with third-party. Sony gets a cut of the subscription fee and everyone's happy, that's why Sony turned it down, because it would effect third-party and indie devs in a negative way. In PlayStation's mind, if Xbox is stupid enough to give away $200 million dollar games for a measly $14.99 a month, that's on them. Their loss while Sony sells theirs for $69 and Nintendo never lowers the price of their games. Nintendo games are treated like Toyota and Honda cars. But, as long as Sonys getting their cut, I don't think they'd care, so long as it was only Xbox first-party games. I wouldn't object to that deal if I was PlayStation, just don't mess with Sonys games or third-party devs

[Jingsing]

Message to the gaming press, enough! You tried this for the best part of a decade to sell us on Game Pass and it didn't work then and it isn't working now. I guess now that IGN has bought almost everyone and they are a Microsoft partner we will have to put up with more of this corrupted advertising. Another decade of flooding the field of play by Microsoft.

[babadivad]

It always has been.

[PhillyDonJawn]

It's been a must have. It's value is just increasing even more.

[Santouryuu]

You know tango got closed down because of GP right?

[anast]

I see videos of people saying they are cancelling.

[rippermcrip]

So the showcase which was mostly games releasing in 2025 and beyond (which didn't even have any dates) made you believe it is a must have?