NBA Street Homecourt: PS3 vs Xbox 360

Just how much graphical difference is there between these two next-gen powerhouses?

[TheGoodMART]

I thought it wood look very bad on the ps3 but it's not that of a huge difference now i might rent it.

[MikeMichaels]

Looks like the 360's color saturation is too high/illegal. Like the values need to be clamped.

Also, there's the typical 360 waaaay too blown out white levels and blacks with very little color imformation in them.

Look at the indoor court scenes, the 360's shirts are just blown out white with crazy hotspots, while the PS3 you can make out details in the whites on their jerseys.

Also look at the walls in the BG, Smoother grade along the walls without the murky overly dark corners...we are inside after all, the lighting should reflect it.

...is the 360 version even using HDR?

Looking very nice for both systems though.

[uxo22]

After reading your comments/review I went back and watched the video about 4 more times. I could find ANY evidence of the blownout whites and other flaws that you point out. I did notice that the colors on the 360 version were a bit richer or more saturated, but nothing over the top. As a matter of fact I thought the bolder colors on the 360 version is actually what gave it the nod as to which one looked better.

It does look great on both systems, but, I would have to disagree on the whites being blown out and colors being too saturated on the 360. You're not judging photographs pal, this is a video. What would make you ask if the 360 version is using HDR, maybe I missed something. You are talking High Dynamic Range. I deal with HDR/Tonal Mapping when I do photography, but I never really hear of someone bringing it up on video game video footage. Interesting.

Please don't take this the wrong way, but perhaps you should recalibrate your monitor and view it again.

[Joe]

Since graphics are pretty identical, why would you buy a PS3 to play this game when the XBOX360 is much cheaper? Sony says the PS3 graphics are suppose to be realistic and next-gen and better than the XBOX360. Yet the XBOX360 version looks the same!

I don't mean to flame, but why do I need to pay $200 more for a PS3 when I can play this game on the XBOX360 that is $200 less?

Also, the XBOX360 version has the rumble capability. So, the gameplay MUST be better than the PS3 version.

[4me2]

Well
My 360 cost:
- xbox 360 $399
- recharging kit $25 (I think, it was long time ago)
- CBOX Live $50 (expired in Jan, did not renew)
Total $474

MY PS3 20 GB cost:
- PS3 $450 (10% OFF with new TARGET Credit ACC)
- recharging kit 0
- online muiliplayer 0
Total $450

I bought PS3 in TARGET. When you open TARGET Credit ACCOUNT you get 10% OFF of anything you buy.
I know I could have bought my 360 in Target but I didn't.
And it is only what I PAID, but even though if I would not get 10% off the PS3 would be $25 more.

[dantesparda]

All the color differences can easily be chalked up to the default settings of the systems. You get the same thing with screen geometry where one system may be set up with a little wider horizontal setting or a vertical setting, etc.

And to the guy above "4me2"

Dont forget that you are also getting a bluray disc player, and to get something equivalent to that on the 360, you would have to pay basically another $200. And also dont forget, that it also doubles as a Linux PC

[combatant]

I got my xbox 360 from walmart. and i had a gift card. so i only spent 100 dollars on my 360. yet i bought my ps3 at best buy and paid $500 dollars for it. that means my 360 was 400 dollars cheaper....

Just shut the f##ck up 4me2.

[4me2]

1). No you DID NOT get 360 for $100
2). I doubt you own 360 Core ver --it is a money trap, 360 for $100 not for long long time. Not even original xbox(brand new) got to the $100 level.
3). You own PS3?????

4). What's your problem boy. That's what "I PAID" - read entire post if you are capable, don't skip parts that are inconvenient for you Bill
5). At least I have PS3, 360 and Wii

[MikeMichaels]

uxo22

"You are talking High Dynamic Range. I deal with HDR/Tonal Mapping when I do photography, but I never really hear of someone bringing it up on video game video footage. Interesting."

Well then let me explain digital HDR to you then......

The point is, things can be really dark...and things can be really bright and you can still see information in the color. Whites shouldn't be above 1 because after that they will become clipped, any rgb info is lost after r1.g1.b1

Look at the hotsopts on the boxers in FN for the 360, or especially Madden. It just looks bad. The same things can happen in the red and blues or greens.

I'm seeing the same things here and it's a problem, not a feature. LOL

[FirstknighT]

I was pretty amazed when I saw this comparison. As you can see the 360 kills the ps3's version. The 360 is sharper, colorful, and brighter while the ps3 looks washed out and even slightly blurry. It almost looks like it's similar to Call of Duty 3. The 360 version was sharper while the ps3 was washed out. Maybe the PS3 GPU IS the problem. Well whatever it is, you can add another game that looks better on the 360.

[techie]

Ok all I can see is a contrast difference - which can be changed on the ps3's settings or/and tv - I think there may well be something wrong with the ps3's default settings, but otherwise - is the 360 version really sharper? I'm struggling to see that. I'll watch it again.

[testerg35]

I would have to say the 360 version definately looks sharper... especially if you look at the backround. The PS3 version seems to have some jaggies in the backround.

[techie]

Yuh perhaps slightly washed out - but then again it looks kind more real. I don't think that's a graphical problem with the system. Tis interesting though in those differences. I wonder if it would look different if they changed the default settings. I am truly being open-minded here, and wouldn't put the graphical power of each of the systems over on this comparison - or which one looks better.

I mean often the differences aren't so different, and at times its not so easy to dunk it in the 360's net, and the ps3 seems to come back with better visuals in its court on some games. I am speaking from reading around reviews - because this is something that interests me - I haven't seen them side by side and I doubt I ever will, but from reading reviews some go with ps3. Hey ho.

[GaMr-]

...........browser screwed up

[GaMr-]

The 360 version PWNS THE MESS out of the PS3 version........ ahahahaha just kiddin....

So many things to say and im going to contain myself from saying them. I only name a few.

1. EA Sports + Porting Games+ PS3

2. Posted an article IGN gave the games an exact word for word review with matching score of 8.8 (hmm I wonder why)

3.Why are we still comparing multi platforms anyways?

I want to see: Gran Turismo 5 vs. Forza 2
Killzone 2 vs. Halo 3
Heavenly Sword vs. Ninja Gaiden 2
MotorStorm vs. Flatout
Tekken 6 vs. DOA 4
MGS4 vs. Bio Shock
and so on.

Now those will be some graphics comparisons worth acknowledging.

[Geohound]

ftw?!?!

MGS4 vs. Bio Shock

??????????????????

Anyway... This whole mutilplatform visuals comparsion thing? Tired. Sad. Enough.

[R34GTR]

Its does make sense. The whole porting thing and EA. Unless they are going to take time to fine tune the game for each console (Bethesda anyone) then its going to be either the same or slightly edged on 1 console. Nothing major. And this game does look identical to me.

[uxo22]

Why would you ask "Why are we still comparing multi-platform games" as if you thinks it stupid or a waste of time. If you took games that were exclusives, how could your truely compare the power/features of the consoles.

To be honest, either console can have a better looking game than the other simply based on what the developers decide to put into it. Look how beautiful Gears and MotorSport are, but it's like comparing apples and oranges.

[Xi]

that wouldn't work.
I could make a game that's absolutely sucks, but looks like cgi, but it would have no sound, all you do is press a single button and the physics are horrible, but hey it looks super amazing.

The other problem is that the games would need to be released at the same time. And everything would have to have the same features. (damage on racing games, vehicles in fps's etc.)

In the end you'd have to compare the entire game and it won't just be the 'grafix'. The best way to compare systems is by doing this. taking games that are built for one system and porting it.

[Silverwolf]

"I hope whomever's doing these comparisons are calibrating the TV's. I had both the xbox 360 and PS3 and due to there different connectivity (component vs HDMI). I had to have two diffrent settings of calibration for each system. DVE is a great calibration CD and should be used before making comaprison's of any kind. Calibrating through the HDMI for the PS3 required I up'd the color and lowered the brigthness. Which judging by the video this was not done and this comparison should be re-done."

Anyone with a little video knowledge will agree with me.

[techie]

Yuh that's cool. Though they're comparison is based on default settings, which I guess is fair. But still what we're looking for is graphical differences, NOT differences in contrast. I'm trying to look for the jaggies in the background - can't see it. Also trying to see whether its sharper, not sure about that either. You know its so close to call. Def the colours are nicer in the 360 version, but really I just think its cause its darker. Lots of people turned down the contrast on COD3 and said it looed the same as the 360, but that obv the framerate let down the ps3. I wonder if framerates are good in this one.

Wasn't there meant to be a difference in resolution and framrate of these versions? I read someone post that - thought they may wel have been BS. They said something like 1080p 30fps for 360 and 720p 60fps for ps3. Slightly ironic. I'd go for the 60fps any day, I don't even have an hd tv. Anyway that's prob BS.

[Arkham]

I recently posted that info on the framerates.

NBA was highly touted as being the first 1080p game for the 360, so I did a bit of digging to find out the rates. All I could find was on the NBA Street site, a forum post saying that the 360 will play this game in two modes, either 1080p @ 30fps, or 720p @ 60fps, while apparently the PS3 vesion only does 720p @ 60fps. That's the only info I could find.

[techie]

That;s very strange - bout the two option for 360. Interesting. Though I think optimising for 60fps is good.

Umm just wondering...in the UK we've always had 50fps, and could never support 60fps...has that all changed now?

[Silverwolf]

I'm not saying calibrating the source will make the PS3 the winner. But any display not calibrated properly will effect not just contrast but detail overall.

[f41c0n]

The Xbox360 is clearly the winner in this. The colors, reflections, textures, and pretty much everything else look much better than the PS3's. The PS3 version looks a bit blurry, and even foggy.

[joemutt]

Props to whoever put it together. I like how you can pause it and see the difference in the two, while not both cameras matched up all the time, a few where the same camera angles.

If you are watching it on a small PC monitor, thats not doing it justice, Im watching it on a 27" Widescreen, and I can tell a difference between the two games. Not much though.

[timmyp53]

youve got identical images but... you still have people online flamin..

[ReconHope]

nicely worded, Tim.

[leon]

THE COMPARISONS ARE DONE USING DIRECT FEED FOOTAGE

DIRECT FOOTAGE=WHAT THE CONSOLE DIRECTLY OUTPUTS TO THE TV
THE TV/MONITORS EACH HAVE THE SAME SETTINGS.

NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU FIDDLE WITH THE SETTINGS ON THE TV/MONITOR
IT WONT MAKE THE PS3 VER LOOK BETTER THAN THE 360 VER.

[True Gamer]

The fanboys again, twisting everything up.

Fact is they both look almost identical.

[Arkham]

Only taking into account that these are 2nd hand images, I prefer the 360 version. Seeing them side-by-side on a properly configured or calibrated display might change some minds though.

I suspect the clarity and contrast differences have more to do with display/output issues. The HDMI should look better than the component. I'd be interested in more information on how these were set up. These comparisons are just flamebait without any accompanying specifics. The results are too easily skewed.

[specialguest]

The 360 version looks sharper and brighter. The PS3 version doesn't look as crisp, but still looks good and somewhat more realistic(less plastic looking). If I had to choose the better looking one in my opinion, it would have to be the 360s version, base on that video.

[Juevani]

it looks more real on the PS3 and the washed-out colors if thats what u preffer to call it makes it look more alive, thats why I preffer COD3 on PS3 too, it just give it the adge over the 360, all games looks too cartoony on the 360, PS3 make em look more real-life like, I guese thats what Sony was tryin to say.. more real-life like is what I choose, so PS3 version is bettah..

[FordGTGuy]

Xbox 360's player models are sharper but everything else is just about the same. But what else was expected? Its a multi platform game and I wouldn't expect it to look to different from each other.

[leon]

trying to justify buying the ps3???
you comments are plaind dumb.

any one with half a brain can see the 360 one looks better

[uxo22]

The games are cartoons. So shouldn't they look like cartoons. If you have a video game like COD3 and it looked like say the movie saving private ryan with absolute real movie detail, it would blow all of us away, not to mention, it won't be this generation of console that will provide it. And maybe not even the next generation either.

[DJ]

It's the same thing we've seen in previous cross-console comparisons, and these guys seriously need to calibrate their TVs correctly before doing these comparisons for millions of people to see.

Graphically, these two versions are identical. No need for bickering or false claims. Yeah, I'm looking at you FirstKnight. =P

[BIadestarX]

You may be right... the guy didn't "calibrate" his tv propertly. But did you know that if you "calibrate" the wii enough it will start to look like GT:HD or even MotorStorm? ahhh ahahaha! I guess it simply can't be as simple as the XBox 360 looks better.

[wolfgang]

Calibrate TV ? Why don't they do the test on the same tv set ?

[leon]

SOME ONE WHO NEEDS EDUCATING
THE COMPARISONS FROM GAMETRAILERS ARE DONE USING........

..........DIRECT FEED FOOTAGE.

[GameOn]

The signal is being recorded before it even gets to the tv.
So the 360 is just slightly better in colour and sharpness, although ths ps3 may have had beeter lighting in a few places (not sure on that 1)but not overall.

[ChefDejon]

dude the ps3 version would totally mess up my game play the graphics just arent sharp enough the brightness would get in my way when im going up for a dunk and that just isnt good u know thats why the xbox 360 version is better(SARCASM). for u to say that the Xbox 360 version looks better u would just have to be a dack. these game look the dam same. they play the same. thats probaly why ign gave them the same score

[FordGTGuy]

but you would never notice unless they were side by side and standing alone they both look great so does it even matter?

[leon]

THAT MAYBE THE POINT THEY BOTH DO PLAY THE SAME
BUT ONE CONSOLE COSTS (IN THE UK) 425 POUNDS AND THE OTHER CONSOLE COSTS 199 POUNDS, AND THE VERSION THAT "LOOKS" BETTER IS ON THE 199 POUND CONSOLE.
AND FOR A CONSOLE THAT COSTS 2.25 TIME MORE EXPESIVE , I WOULD EXPECT THE GAMES ON IT TO LOOK 2.25 TIMES BETTER , WOULDNT YOU ?

OR ARE YOU JUST ANOTHER BLIND SONYFAN?

[Blackmoses]

maybe I just haven't gotten enough rest but...I just can't see the difference.
You say the PS3 version looks washed out? Well, I really wouldn't say that. I mean for a moment there until I looked in the corner of the screens to see which is which, I thought it was the same thing being shown over and over again. I didn't even realize the system designation until halfway through. And just because one appears brighter than the other doesn't make it the clear cut winner. your foolish if you think so. "Oh look at our colors they're sooooo colorful...". May be a ploy to draw your attention from other things, not sayin' that's the case, but leaves one to wonder.

[HuntingYou]

I was thinking the ps was going to be better but i think i have been lead wrong by someone elses hardware test. I need to run load tests my self to see what is really going on in the PS3.

The 360 looksa way sharper. in the first shot the buildings in the background look wat better on the 360.
The tree looks way sharper and so do the on court stuff, including players.

The bulls logo almost looks like the real thing at the UC on the 360. it as not dull as on the ps3, ofcourse i have never been that close to it.

Not only does the PS stuff look fuzzy and out of focus, but there a an additional haze over it.......i don't know how u can miss that deepbrn

[petesxo]

A. Xbox360 Fans will claim it looks better because everyone with an x360 is hoping to God that the PS3 will suck. That's just standard partisan behavior.
B. Under what conditions where the videos taken (connection, contrast settings et al), not to mention the compression of the video file. Thats like doing a taste test of high end bottled water through a garden hose, it will all taste like crap!
C. Xbox360 has a year headstart on the PS3 with regard to development tools, tweaking, developer experience etc..

This test proves nothing. If a company claimed to take advatage of each system's specific architecture (CELL SPE's etc.) and then a comparison was ran, I think we would have a much different test. Heck the RSX alone is reason to believe that, given time, the PS3 will have a marginal advantage over the 360, and that's just the GPU. If the issue becomes cost when porting, then all games will look almost the same... The fan thing with either console is retarded, niether microsoft nor sony gives 2 shts about anything but making money and owning your living room so they can make more money than the other guy. The best thing we could possibly do is buy both consoles, but NOT the WII :P I mean the controller is a great idea, but wtf, it's time for HD graphics, who the heck wants to watch GameCube esq graphics on an HDTV..

[ChaosKnight]

Well its hard to tell, I do notice some differences as someone said in the background being a little bit more washed-out on the ps3 version, but other than that... the game looks near identical. And if its just that whats visually different... who really cares? Seriously?

[ER1X]

2 thumbs up in the fanboy department. :-)

[SPAWN]

www.ps3.justgotowned.com

[spacetoilet]

Well, here is another ported multi platform job that looks crap on the ps3. I personally don't care about crappy sports games etc, but Its sad for those who like this stuff to see the blurry crappy ps3 port. On my regular crappy tv, my ps3 looks crisp. But thats playing other games than this. But I do think, and I have said this before, that Microsoft's choice of ATI is way better than SONY'S choice of NVIDIA. I always liked ATI's image quality even on my pc. Colours are better. Period.

[gnothe1]

but anyone who really wants to can tell that the 360 version is sharper an more crisp with more colour!! but what did they expect sony fanboys to say!!I hope they wasn't looking for them to say an xbox game looks better than a Ps3 game!!everybody listen!! one way you can tell if a game really looks better on the xbox is listen to the excuses (its EA,oh its a port, its a lazy dev etc)that's how you know. so going by that, I think you know which one looks the best even if its only by an inch!!

[nicodemus]

And isn't that the point? The PS3 is 200 dollars more (or 100 if you want to go that route), and yet the graphics look the same, and if anything maybe a little worse.

Casual gamers are going to see stuff like this and think -- Why would I spend $500 when I can get the same/better experience for $300???

And apologists, stop with the porting excuse - there were tons of games that were ported from ps2 to xbox, and pretty much every time, the games looked better on xbox. Just go to the head-to-head section at ign if you don't believe me.

[jerrell]

Sorry for coming out and saying that but nobody on here is paying attention to detail!!! I noticed the difference right off the bat!!! If you look when they slam dunk the ball and you look at the backboard you can see the reflection move like in real life on the PS3. You see no change in the 360 version!!!!! The PS3 clearly has more going on in the background. PAY ATTENTION TO DETAIL!!!

[Silver360]

If you have no intention of ever buying a 360 then the PS3 version looks damn good. Just not as good as the 360's version. At this point though let's stop crapping on the systems and start playing more. Man you guys need to play some crackdown. I have been playing it the last 2 days and I love it. Come on play games and stop looking at dumb flame war material. The war is over and we have all won. The games are here and more are coming.

[PS360PCROCKS]

I can't even read all the comments on this one but the 360 version does look better, backgrounds do seem sharper and jerseys and things. The major difference is the color pallet, it's definetly brighter on the 360 version.

[Bathyj]

If they're so close then who really cares? Its not like anyone going to jump side because of it. If the PS3 version does look slightly more "real" as some are saying then that probably explains the slightly washed out look, to de-emphasise that plastic look. Plus your only looking at video, not the game running proper. Does it really matter? If it proves anything, its that multiplatform games are not the way to show what a console can do really do and if anything both versions probably would have looked better if the Devs had concentrated more on each platforms attributes. Sorry kids, no one just got OWNED.

[kikilala]

about the difference that u guys said.. but seriously... from what ive seen.. the PS3 version look more real.. the reflection on the court floor on the 360 is way too strong.. almost like a mirror.. in which.. the ps3 version is a bit more subtle and blended with the floor colour

and i think the lighting for the 360 is quite off.. how could a darker environment show clearer and sharper objects... and i agree with some of the guys.. the 360 has a plasticy look to it character model..

and one more thing.. it seems that the sharpness on the ps3 has been messed with.. it's turned down.. dont believe me?? check the HUD on both version.. u can see the difference in sharpness..

if i didnt know better.. i would say this is a conspiracy to make the 360 look good... (wink²)

P.S: The soft shadow is nicer on the PS3 too..

[badkolo]

Even though they dont, the 360 version is sharper and crisper .

But the ps3 is 600 bucks and is so much mor epowerfull, well now do you realize that multi games will look the same and not any better on a 600 buck ps3( i own one).

The fact that 360 cae out ealrier so they will make games first on 360 then port to ps3 or whatever excuse you want to use, its obvious the ps3 and 360 are equal and sony has no business selling a 600 buck machine with claims it will destroy the 360, well now who looks foolish.

Whats even crazier is that there isnt one game on the ps3 that looks better then the 360 games, not one game coming looks better then GOW, theres nothing so far to justify buying a ps3, theres not one thing and yet you guys just troll away and bow down to sony , they lied to you , thats the fact. they lied to me as well, and add to the fact that you wont use the motion sensor to play most of these multi plat games and then we are left with ps3 games with no rumble on top of that, so ps3 games dont look any better and the ps3 costs 600 and theres no rumble and motion is not a good replacement. so ps3 is screwed.

[Funky Town_TX]

They should show two videos without a console label attached and let ppl vote. Fangirls will always twist it up. Bigger disc space, 2 tera flops of CPU performance, delayed console, plus a $600 price tag. The 360 version looks better hands down. Looks like the 360 is the way to got for multi-plat games for now. Don't give me the BS about EA learning to use Sony's hardware. Sony made the hardware so they have to put up with mixed results. Remember EA sports BIG is a big seller to casual gamers.

[badkolo]

how many excuses will people use, sony made the system the way it is, its there fault they didnt make it easy to dev for, its htere fault they are charging 600, they didnt need blueray, it sure hasnt proved anything yet, nothing is better on the ps3, how many more years must it take for you to realize the ps3 was overhyped and will not deliver anything better then the 360, multi games will look the same and then you just have a ps3 thats more expensive and does nothing more then the 360 .

[Funky Town_TX]

What if the 360 version looks better. STOP F-ING MAKING EXCUSSES FOR SONY. Sony and M$ can handle their own problems. If the PS3 version looked better you guys would be throwing up "Cell" processor specs right now. Now you say it's not enough to care about. Looking better is looking better no matter how much it does. Now if I out that up on my 52" TV, what version do you think I want. A system that is $200 more should look better. The 360 is $200 more than the Wii, and the Wii can't touch it on graphics. Use this logic when you compare the PS3 to the 360. I don't care why it cost more either. I WANT TO GAME FIRST. I DON'T CARE ABOUT WATCHING MOVIES. I AM A GAMER NOT A MOVIE REVIEWER.

[Raist]

If VF5 turns to look better on the 360 (like what, in 6 months from now ?) i guess some people here will run in and scream "TOLD YA ! THE 360 PWNS TEH PS3 LOL"

Of course, it will prolly be the sme people that said "Oblivion looking better on PS3 ? psshhh, of course, they had extra time to polish"

:)

[vettle1]

^^^agreed

[omegaheat]

Even if some of us are biased towards our favorite console, it's obvious,and there shouldn't be any denial that the 360 version does look superior in the video. Even if the contrast can't be used as a reference to see which looks better, the 360 version is sharper by all means. That should not be so obvious in a video, but it is. This just adds insult to injury as more and more multiplatform games are superior on the 360. Recently a Sony rep said that the Xbox360 and PS3 were about even. That's ironic considering that Sony said the next generation doesn't start until they say it does. So why do they now say that the two systems are even? Wow.

[FKN Unbelievable]

PS3 Version Makes you Rub your eyes to focus while the Xbox 360 version runs at 1080p sharply (I could care a Fuk about natively or not that sh1t looks good). PS3 has jaggies still and the 360's Skins Teams looked more Sweaty and lifelike while the Ps3 version look faded like they washed their skin in bleach.

[InMyOpinion]

This comment section demonstrates the feeble mind of the fanboy. There's absolutely no difference between the two versions. My guess is gametrailers posted this video knowing that.

[Dragonopolis]

EA is just a whining baby. I don't considered them a power house developer and quite frankly I feel they have been slacking off due to their almost monopoly in sport titles. I have seen enough games on the PS3 to know that its not the machine that sucks its EA's development staff. How can you trust any software company that openly slanders any game console. It would be like some game developer slaming PCs using ATI GPUs because they prefer using OpenGL and generally Nvidia Cards do better with OpenGL - EA ethics are tacky.

I'm with those who don't see much of a difference and the differences I do see like color and sharpness can easily be adjusted on the TV. PS3 and Xbox 360 are too totally different machines. Each machine will have its own default settings. Some TVs will default in favor of the Xbox 360 and other TVs will default in favor of the PS3. Heck, I just bought a new DVD player and had to reconfigure my TV again because the settings on my new DVD player were different than the old one.

I will have to go with GaMr and say let the exclusives battle it out. Games exclusive to a system are the only true way to determine the power of a game console since it was written specifically to take advantage of it. Of course, it would help if those comparisons came out in the same quarter. Five to Six months after will get the fanboys all shouting that the game developer had enough time to adjust and improve on the graphics/gameplay.

[ER1X]

EA is complacent in so many areas it's not even funny. Take a simple game like TW golf for example. In every since 05 you could swing with the left stick or the right stick. For the PS3 in online matches you cannot swing righty but you can choose either for the 360. EA has the nerve to post in the FAQ that "due to the limitations of online play" they could not program it into the game. And they expect the consumer to believe it. Complete and utter BS. You can do it in the offline game modes and in the online daily tournament but not in online matches? You could do it on the PS2 and XBOX1 but not PS3? Sure thing there EA...limitations of online play my ass. ;-)

Cutting corners at it's finest. EA's unspoken company policy...

[deathtok]

Both versions look good but I'll give the edge to the XBox 360 for some of the lighting and reflections. However, I think this is definitely related to development kits. The X360 has a year jump on developer's knowledge. I'd expect differences like this to get smaller and smaller.

[SuperSaiyan4]

The 360 GPU IS 2yrs ahead in technology on the 7800gtx found in the PS3 what did you expect?

[FeralPhoenix]

I watched the video 5 times and I tried very, very hard to "see" the differences...and in my honest opinion the 360 version looked slightly better, seriously watch it again -the backgrounds are just a tad sharper and the 360 lighting is better....thats about it. I even covered up the labels and asked my wife which one she thought looks better and she also picked the 360 side (thats proof) -No, she knows nothing about games but I just wanted a second opinion, either way maybe its the "default" settings?? or whatever reason some have claimed it to be, but after watching the video and nitpicking it one thing is clear, unless you and a friend are going to play on 2 identical HDTV's side by side you won't notice. Also this means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IN TERMS OF CAPABILITY of the PS3's hardware...because I'm sure if EA tweaked it more it would look a little sharper, but really you can't blame EA for this one because its not the type of game they are going to "optimize" for both systems and in the end they both look great, so its not like its a "garbage port" where the PS3 version looks and plays terrible....its a basketball game -with some cool tricks for those who just want to pick up play and have some "crazy fun" with a few friends....its not a deep AAA title that everybody's waiting for.

[SEAN1617]

please shut up the r 600 just nearly out preforms the 7800gtx so whatever, as far as the games i just have to point out that 1)the only difference is contrast,2) it's freaking multiplatform 3) what type of screen or direct feed are they using for the ps3? all i have to say is why do 1st gen ps3 games look just as good as 2nd-3rd gen 360 games?

[FirstknighT]

I'm not surprised by some of the responses in here. I didn't expect a sonyboy to be a man and admit that the 360 looks better. But of course they just throw excuse after excuse. The video clearly shows the 360 superior in every way. Take the very first scene (4-5 seconds in) Look how blurry and fuzzy those buildings are on the ps3 and nice and crisp on the 360. The writings and signs on the walls are easier to read on the xbox 360 than the ps3. Sony boys are saying that the ps3 is more "realistic".....Yeah if you have the vision of a 90 year old man! The PS3 version just looks fuzzy and out of focus. The 360 is sharper and superior in every way.

And now people are saying it's not calibrated right. WOW! Now I agree tv's need calibration. I myself used AVI and a few others for my set. But your saying that you have to calibrate HDMI to look as good as component? The problem is that only a few people calibrate their tv's. Only video freaks like myself take the time to do that. I read an article saying that only about 5% that buy a tv calibrate their sets. In other words this is how most people will play this game. But I'm sure the people at Gametrailers.com did their job and made sure it was the best possible comparison. Or are they "anti-sony" like you guys always say.

Bottom line is that the 360 came out an year before the ps3. The ps3 was supposed to kick ass in graphics. They were supposed to take no prisoners. Isn't that what Sony said? And games CONTINUOUSLY come out and look better on the 360. I wish the sony side would stop acting like a lil spoiled girl and admit that the 360 is superior. Stop the excuses!

[FeralPhoenix]

Bro, I agree that it does look better on 360, but its a "slight" difference. I mean, I understand that you might be sick of excuses but how can you honestly say: "The 360 is sharper and superior in every way." -I'm a graphics whore and I just don't see the difference being superior in every way. Come on lets just be fair here....because it bothers me when Sonyfanboys start claiming superiority just because Bethesda actually tweaked Oblivion and lowered the loading times or whatever. It's really silly when people try to prove a point but use bad examples, I think soon we will have games that show at least the potential of what is possible on both consoles....You and I know its obvious why Oblivion "should" look better now than before, but of course every Sonyfanboy sweared its because PS3 is superior....Yes this game is a "apples to apples" comparison but still logic would suggest that "this game" is NOT close the end all be all of what either console is capable of. -All I'm saying is you just have to put everything into perspective and pick your fights wisely.

[Raist]

People that think that color, contrast and lighting have something to do with "hardware power" seriously eed some medical assistance.

What's funny here, is that even people that usually prefer the 360 don't even agree "no differences except colors" "slightly more contrasted" "bacjgrounds sharper" "players models better".

Perception ? Personnal preferences anyone ?

People that take multi games to make comparisons are a bit dumb. how the hell does it show than x is better than y ?

Take MGS2. The PS2 version looked better than the xbox version. Is PS2 more powerful than xbox ? NO
Simply, the game was fully optimized for the PS2. And they just made a quick port.

Of course, multi games will look very close. Of course, there will be slight differences, and of course, the console it was developped on at first will prolly look better. Exception : they actually optimize the game for the other platform (like Oblivion).
Most of multi games are just average, that is, they don't really use each system's max capacities. When you have two really different hardwares, and you don't optimize, do you really think the same code will give the same results ?

People that still don't understand that should think about it. Of course, they won't if they're complete fanboys who jump on every example of this kind to bash the other system. But still seem to understand this concept of multiplatforms and optimization as soon as their fav system has the lowest version.

Edit : lol, just noticed i'm down to three bubbles. This new system is really funny. You guys never cease to amaze me. "I don't agree with this guy ! shut him up !"
Hmmm not letting talk people that have different point of view. Sounds like dictatorship a bit huh ?

[omfg_111]

the PS3 - version, sorry.
The XBox360 version do more look like Plastic-Action-Figures walking around in a Darker Room.

It is obvious that the ps3 version is brighter, u can change it.

Did u ever looked on the Backboard - reflection @ ps3?

does the 360 has some reflections? NO! ...

sorry i like more the ps3 version

[SuperSaiyan4]

XENOS has:

HDR+AA
Unified Shader
Multi Texturing
DX10 compliant (missing a couple of DX10 features to be full DX10 ready)
Also lets not forget the 10mb EDRAM.

The Xenos has features in its GPU that only came out recently with the release of the new 8 series Nivida graphics cards.

The 360 GPU was the first on the market to offer all those features and more, the RSX is assisted by the CELL but with any CPU no CPU can offer the features of the XENOS it can only assist.

Its not about RAW speed but what features a GPU can offer and in this case the 360 GPU offers the ability for developers to use those features for GAMING, the 360 also has a better CPU designed specifically for GAMING.

Once the full features and functions of those DX10 ready cards are exploited in the coming year you will then truely see what the XENOS is capable of ;-)

We have only just touched the iceburg with the XENOS in the 360 once developers get to know just how that technology functions with the PC graphics cards that will show its colours on the 360 leaving the PS3 way behind unable to offer anything other than bland visuals.

If you look at ANY PS3 game you will notice the lack of textures and HDR, instead they use more lighting in some areas to mimick HDR which fails miserably.

[ACE]

u r spot on mate , theres to many sony fanatics on this site who talk trash . they need to smell the coffee and wake up from the sony trance .

sony has done an amazing job of brainwashing people .

back to the post : the 360 has better lighting (hdr) , colours , looks sharper and seams to run slitly smoother too.

ok sony fanatics if the ps2 ports to the xbox where better on the xbox all round then why does the ports on the ps3 not look better ? its ment to be twice as powerfull as the 360 lol u sony fanatics r funny keep us laughing :) .

[The Karate Kid]

YOU ALL CAN SAY WHAT YOU WANT TO SAY IN REGARD TO THIS TERRIBLE VIDEO COMPARISON. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THEY ARE THE SAME GAME PERIOD!!!! PS3 VERSION IS OBVIOUSLY NOT DISPLAYED IN HIGH DEFINITION AND THE 360 VERSION IS CLEARLY DISPLAYED IN HIGH DEFINITION. SINCE 360 FANBOYS KNOW THAT THE GAME IS EXACTLY THE SAME, THE ONLY THING THEY CAN DO IS OUTPUT THE PS3 VERSION IN 480P SO IT WILL MAKE THE 360 VERSION LOOK CLEANER AND SHARPER. IT SIMPLY AMAZES ME HOW FANBOYS DO LITTLE STUPID THINGS LIKE THAT TO FOOL IGNORANT GAMERS. SOMEONE WHO DOES NOT KNOW ABOUT TECHNICAL THINGS LIKE THAT WILL SEE AND THINK THE 360 VERSION IS BETTER WHEN ITS ACTUALLY THE SAME EXACT GAME. NO SUCH THING AS PS3 VERSION IS THIS OR THAT, THE GAME WAS BUILT OFF THE 360 ENGION PROBABLY USING THE EXACT SAME 360 CODE AND SIMPLY PORTED OVER TO THE PS3.....SAY ALL WHAT U WANT TO SAY BUT IT IS THE EXACT SAME GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WHAT IS SAD IS AGAIN AND AGAIN ANOTHER 360 GAME EASILY PORTED OVER TO THE PS3. ALL U HAVE TO IS CHANGE THE VIDEO OUTPUT TO 720P AND WALLA...YOU HAVE THE EXACT SAME GAME RUNNING ON THE PS3. THEY ALWAYS DO THIS WITH GAMES ON BOTH SYSTEMS, ITS PATHETIC, 360 FANS JUST FACE IT, XBOX SUCKS THE ORIGINAL XBOX IS DEAD 360 IS DEAD RIGHT NOW, NO GAMES............PS3 LOOKS VERY GOOD VIRTUA FIGHTER 3 OUT NOW F1 RACING OUT NEXT WEEK, MOTOR STORM THE WEEK AFTER THAT, THEN WE RUN INTO LAIR AND HEAVENLY SWORD, SINGSTAR, NINJA GAIDEN SIGMA PLUS THE NEW FIRMWARE UPDATE...WOW THEN U RUN INTO Q4 WHEN U WILL FIND METAL GEAR SOLID 4 AND KILLZONE 2, DRAKES FORTUNE, DEVIL MAY CRY 4 THEN U RUN INTO NEXT YEAR WITH FINAL FANTASY 13 AND NEXT GEN SOCOM.......SO MANY MORE GAMES!!!!!!! 360 WELL WE HAVE HALO 3 LOL A OLD GEN GAME THAT ALREADY LOOKS NEARLY IDENTICAL TO HALO 2 OH ONE THING FOR SURE IT WILL NO MORE THAN 8 GIGS LOL....LET ME GUESS CRACKDOWN?????? A GRAND THEFT AUTO RIPOFF CARTOON STYLE...SHOVE THAT SYSTEM UP YOUR%$%^$$%^$

[Jones Miller]

FUUUUUUCK YOU!

[achira]

the ps3 version looks better. xbots should by glasses. the ps3 version is more realistic. do we know at what resolution both games are running, no. lol, another dumb try.

[Align]

At the end of the day to say the PS3 can only manage graphics equal to or not as good as the 360 is very bad on Sonys behalf the 360 has been out over 12 months and Sonys brand apanker doesn`t even come close to being a better machine. SHAME ON YOU SONY. for taking all this time to release an inferior machine.

[ACE]

they did the same thing when the ps2 came out lied through there teeth .

oh and sony never make powerfull machines its all bs when it comes to sony

[GaMr-]

This article: Stricly flamebait

That Video Comparison: Im sure they didnt label the 2 screens most of you would not even be able to call a difference. You guys ever heard the term "Placebo".

Patient comes in complaining. Doctor gives patient medication. Patient feels better. Patient comes back the next day. Doctor Gives patient Medication again. Patient feels better. Patient comes back the 3rd day Doctor gives patient a dummy pill that resembles medication. Patient feels better. This goes on for quite sometime until the doctor tells the patient. "Hey listen your not really sick. I havent been given you your medication for quite sometime and your fine." Patient suddenly feels extremely sick.

Moral of the story. The console is in its early stages and the games are pretty much identical. Especially this one. Any differences seen that have the ability to make you hint toward superiority is pretty much in your head. I will garuntee if this video is released a month from now and the Captions on the screens are switched. (Xbox side with the PS3 side) you will get the same exact fanboy comments.

OMG XBOX 360 VERSION PWNS PS3......(SMH) Its sooo sad its funny.

[HungPHAT]

I'm buying it for the my 360, not my PS3 because of the there awesome xbox live service

[gnothe1]

never takes the time to build to a systems strengths an just do sloppy ports as Ps3 fans say, then why did ALL last gen ports look better on xbox1!! an you know EA made there games for the Ps2 then ported them to xbox. but xbox 1 games still looked better!!

people forget that PC's has always had graphics that consoles could never reach an a PC is basically a MS platform. so I think that MS knows how to build a machine to do graphics at PC levels.

[techie]

That's because the xbox1 was clearly superior to the ps2.

I'm not making excuses because I am no Sony fanboy. I can't see a difference seriously - I think they both look really good. I'm especially impressed by the reflections and the shadows.

You ever watched those cg vids when they wash out the images and put a film grain over them to make them look more realistic as if shot by a camera - the ps3 version reminds me of that, whereas the xbox360 version looks more arcadey - I wouldn't be surprised if the xbox360 version of VF5 suits its arcade style more.

[donscrillinger]

well as i can see the 360 version looks way better ,its sharper,clearer,its just looks better on the 360 d@mn sonyfans that another 1 .lolol

[Booneral]

Go back to PlayStation 2 and Xbox, compare multi-system games on those. Xbox definately had upperhand, which was especially visible in some games. Do we see that kind of difference here? Like we saw in Chaos Theory's PS2 and Xbox versions? HELL NO. So both 360 and PS3 fanboys, calm down!

Now you people might want to call this a "big" difference. Let's not be blinded by fanboyism, there is only a little difference, just like there is in Oblivion. People make big deal out of this and it's stupid.

Also I don't understand why people keep using this "port" term anymore. Was this game out on 360 and later ported to PS3? NO, not anymore! They are making games individually for each system so CUT it.

The problem is that Sony claimed there would be a BIG difference between 360 and PS3, they said next-gen will truly begin when PS3 was out yet both systems seem to be pretty close. Xbox 360 is good there, PS3 is good here, and it will go like that.

These comparisons will never end but let's accept one fact, both systems deliver next-gen, satisfy their owners and we won't ever see a big gap. PERIOD.

[Balance]

i was surprised, there isn't much a difference but if you watch it a couple of times the 360 colors are definitly brighter (ps3 looks washed out) and on the indoor courts the reflection of the players on the floor the 360 has almost the whole person reflecting on the floor the ps3 has a colored smudge. FOR THIS ONE GAME i would have to give the edge to the 360 due to the brighter colors and little sharper detail (want a quick comparison, look at the score bar at the top when they are side by side, you can see the brighter color and sharpness of the 360 version and that trend extends to the whole game).

whoever said EA sucks i agree, both are pretty close with a few minor differences in the 360s favor. EA will never spend time on focusing on using the strengths of one system or another.

[FeralPhoenix]

but it is noticeable if you look closely at the video objectively, its funny because some Sonyfans deny there's a difference but then give reason's why PS3 version isn't as sharp. -??? Come on....I'm starting to believe that some fans on both sides actually "really do believe" that ONE multiplatform game such as this actually proves superior or inferior hardware. -Well I guess if you really do believe that about "this game" then maybe the small edge in the 360 version IS hard to admit. -It's a cop out to scream everytime "its a garbage port" just because it doesn't look quite as sharp as the 360 version -No but I do think that dev's will have to spend a little extra time to make PS3 multiplatform games look identical or better than 360 games. IMO, exclusive games are where you will see the real power of what these systems can do....I think there will be games on the PS3 eventually that surpass Gears, but in my "biased" opinion I think the 360 will ultimately hold the crown in the graphics department. (Still just slightly) -LOL.

[SIX]

It's clear that the 360 version is sharper, and the contrast is greater. That doesn't however equate to better graphics. I'm a painter, and to me the PS3 version looks more realistic. If they can just tone down the shine on the 360 version just a bit I think that would work.

[r1000]

1st off I think this game is stupid as hell.... that being said... I'm going to have go with the 360 on this one... I do believe it's looks better on that system over the ps3

[Xtrm L1481L1TY]

It's clearly obvious the 360 has a better video card and I can see why. Textures are more detailed on Xbox 360. Definition appears higher on Xbox 360. Colors look more vibrant and clear on Xbox 360 (unlike the PS3 washed out color pallet). Don't listen to Sony fanboy excuses. This is all GPU quality right here.

I believe once the PS3 is finely tuned, it will have better physics and more things going on onscreen than the 360. However, the PS3 will never display better than Xbox 360. NEVER! Simply put, the video card is more powerful.

[weekapaugh]

the 360 one is too fake looking with shiny players, PS3 is more real looking. it just depends which is your preference.

[Xtrm L1481L1TY]

Then your reality is Defined through Standard Definition which begs the question; Do you have 20/20 vision?

[aaronto5]

well, i once owned a 360. i loved the system. it malfunctioned on me, so now i am buying a ps3 (i have 380 saved on an eb card so far lol). personally, i think they are both great systems. i even intend on rebuying a 360 when there is a price drop, since i know there will be great games on both systems. so without biase, i will say that judging from this video, the 360 version did stand out more. that could be because of the tv it was on, it could be because the developers rushed it, or did not have enough experience with ps3 hardware yet, or perhaps its because graphically the 360 does have an edge over ps3. however, personally i think it has to do with the game, not the system. remember when quake 4 came out on the xbox 360, and the 360 version got accused of having muddier textures, and a bad frame rate compared to the pc version. while that may have been true, the 360 was obviously capable of much more than what was seen in quake 4. just because that game may have come off weak on the 360 (although personally i loved the game), it certainly wasnt a testimate to the lack of power on the systems part. just look at gears of war. that game was far more graphically advanced than quake 4, and it ran it just fine. i think its too early yet to really know what to expect from the ps3. liar looks much better than this basketball game. i think it also is largely due to the developers. when you look at the ps3 version of oblivion, it is graphically superior to the 360 version. some of those graphic differences are going to be made available to the 360 through future updates, but some are still going to be exclusive to the ps3. the point being really, that the developers of oblivion put the effort into doing a good port, and because of that it shines more on the ps3, simply because they took the time to become aware of the systems hardware. the darkness is another example. starbreeze mentioned that the ps3 will have some more content, due to its hardware, such as fuller shows on the televisions in the games levels, ect. both systems are great systems, no matter how you look at it. they both have their strengths and weaknesses. does the ps3 justify its 200 price difference. in terms of graphics probably not. the price difference is more a reflection of the blue ray. personally, i think if someone has a job, why not save up gradually for both systems, so you can get the best of both worlds. im certainly not rich, but i dont think to myself 'i can only have one or the other'. if im able to save up for one, at a later date i can repeat the saving process and buy the other system as well. enjoy what both systems have to offer, and remember, five years from now these systems will be replaced by even more powerful systems.

[Sphinx]

I'd be the first to admit that... wait, never mind, I see a difference. One costs $200 more than the other.

[rowdy 1]

Looks more real to me. We tend to agree that the PS3 has better graphics that will get better over time.

[THAMMER1]

The PS3 looks like it has a screen or film over it. The 360 version will have rumble and a fully integrated Xbox live features that make it the best version to buy.

We all saw the same video there should be no arguments at all. The lighting and textures look much smoother. We have told you it would be like this for the past 2 years now.

So just chill out. I had some 4D jokes but I'll be cool today.LOL

[SIX]

Right! That's what I was saying. Imagine the killzone trailer looking all shiny and contrasty. That doesn't happen in real life. It's kind of like what Kojima was saying how when things look too slick it looks fake. For people who say that the PS3 is incapable of displaying sharp rich colors can look at games like Genji and VF5. If you ask me, programmers should pay more attention to how they do graphics so that it's pleasing to the eye and not cheesy. Then again that's only my opinion.

[Black Republican]

who cares they look good on both systems
even if it looks better on xbox 360 it is not by much
man all thse fanboys makin a big deal about a little difference lol

its like saying someone got a 98 on a test and the other person 97
oh yeah i got a better grade and they make a big deal 1% better, retarted

ps3 fanboys will make an excuse like this case the washed up color makes it more real, nioce excuse

and 360 fans why make a big deal when the game doesnt look way better on 360, only a minor difference

[kingboy]

A company like EA would never push back their release dates in order to iron out problems on any platform,while Betheda,Ubisoft ...are all pushing back their tittles to get the best outta each system.

[SPAWN]

Stop with all the "slightly better" excuses! Nextgen is supposed to be all about high def gaming! Soooo in respect to that, how in the hell do all of you sony fanboys figure that the so-called slight difference doesn`t matter?! It does matter since at 1080p, we are all looking for the best resolutions possible! The ps3 is nothing more than a BIG LIE by sony and you all that don`t believe this, "OR" are just being ignorant to the fact are the biggest losers this gen! The war is over! The XBOX 360 is the leader with sony fighting with the wii for second place! The ps3 will NEVER have better visuals than the 360 because the XBOX 360`s video card is far more POWERFUL! I told you all that months ago! Now having said that, the ps3 will in the future(If The Devs Are Up To It!) have better physics because of the more cores that the ps3 has. But the down side to this is that it`s extremely difficult to program for and very expensive and time consuming! And that`s all folks! The ps3 will never have better visuals!

[weekapaugh]

yes, the NBA Street Homecourt was to be the flagship game for the PS3 showing off all its capabilites. They might as well pull it off the market now. [es]

[TheMART]

Sony fanboys please

You make yourself looking more stupid every time you make new excuses.

I've heard them all:

'it's a port'

Is it? Every game is made on PC and optimized for the specific console. What's the definition of a port then?

'it's EA'

So? They made FNR3 which is a great game and also best on the 360. COD3 another example of less sharp graphics on PS3 and washed out colours

'The TV for the PS3 is 480p and the 360 one is 720p'

Right... Come on guys. The 360 version of multiplatform games are just better, sharper, rich colours, everything is better. Plus extended online features in every game instead of totally none as in Tony Hawk 8, Virtua Tennis 3 etc etc

ADMIT IT, the PS3 isn't the right choice for gaming. It's a cheap BluRay player though

[R34GTR]

SAYS THE GUY WITH AN ANTI-SONY AVATAR....

People with PS3 you will be fine. Your day in the Sun is coming. You cant expect to win these early battles. People already have it in their head as to what they think is better and what isnt. Appearently just over 10 million people since Nov. 2005 have been convinced the 360 is worth buying. It took alot of games and 2 holiday seasons on a worldwide market. Lets see how the PS3 performs under the same circumstances. I notice alot of 360 fanboys know the PS3 will get much better. The new line of defense for you now is.. It will take a long time and its costly . You can believe that if you want. Everyone knows system choices are not highly based on multiplatforms. You average gamer says yea i'll just buy it for whatever I have. Its all about exclusives and games that will be developed to utilize the PS3's architecture. We havent seen that yet. Motorstorm will be the first real debut title. I reckon alot of different tunes will be sung.

[blackmagic]

The first three scenes are the only ones that are the same objects from the same angle in the comparison.

In the first scene (empty court) you can see obvious jaggies on the foreground net, background roadway etc. on the ps3. The background and palm trees are sharper on the 360.

In the second scene (palm tree) the 360 is clearly much sharper, crisper and the roof on the shack on the ps3 is showing obvious jaggies.

In the third scene (court surface with bull) you can see more detail on the right horn for the 360 and when the light reflection crosses over to the 360 side the surface reflection detail is better with higher contrast.

Although they aren't identical scenes after this I made the same general observations throughout. The ps3 exhibited jaggies and the 360 was sharper with an edge on the light engine. I didn't notice any framerate issues for either. I'd give the 360 the nod on this one but the differences certainly weren't glaring. Under casual comparison, they are essentially identical.

[MissAubrey]

but some people won't admit it. it truly is clear as day. but I'm not saying that the 360 poops on ps3 I like 'em both different experiences.

[sabbath420]

where is your 4d sony, Why did you want people to wait for the ps3? Oh yeh because the next gen doesn't start until sony says so. Well sony?

[PSN Starfleets]

There's very little in it but YET AGAIN the PS3 version looks washed out.

It's interesting how we get some idiotic comments from embarrased PS3 fans; they say either "it's just a bad TV..or bad video setting", implying that it should look better.

And then we get the even crazier with "it looks better THAT WAY" statements.

And then ofcourse there is the accusation that Gametrailers, along with Gamespot, is now in the pocket of MS because they display content that looks better on a rival console.

It's pathetic and sad. Truth is in front of you; the 360 version edges it out with more eye candy. Accept it and move along plese.

Games look better on the 360 right now. Who knows what the future holds? But currently, it would be foolish to say the PS3 is being cheated. Most avid PS3 fans accept and just live in hope that their flagship titles will be greater in comparison.

The 360 version looks better. Full stop.

[Align]

Not sure about the PS3 graphics getting better over time, the only thing i know that gets better over time is a good whiskey. Cheers!and it looks like all the Sony fans have already had to much of that.

[Raist]

They should make comparative videos without indicating the console. Would be very interesting to see people's thoughts i guess, haha.

Seriously, except differences in color settings, you can't distinguish both versions from each other. And it's a matter of settings. The general tone of the colours in the videos aren't the same. This has nothing to do with textures or whatever. It's an overall look. Just like if you turned contrast and colors a bit.
Take the PS3 version, turn contrast and colors up, take the 360 version and do the exact opposite. Now give no indication on the console. Mix that a bit. I doubt anyone will manage to guess which versions runs on which console.

Anyways. Firstknight made a really good point. "people barely calibrate they're tv's"

That's right. And do you think everyone will put TV's playing 360 and PS3 versions side by side on their local store to guesss the difference ? And to choose which one they'll buy ?
Nope.

And, btw, exclusives make people choose a console rather than another. Not multi games especially when they are barely different in quality.

[TheMART]

NO MORE EXCUSES

NO MORE EXCUSES

NO MORE EXCUSES

Face it. It's getting more more sad every minute, more Sony fanboys defending the undefendable!

Just stop it guys. I am falling of my chair of laughing about the crawling you do to get yourself to feel fine again

@Raist below

Play fair. You don't.

This game is the same game at the same time reviewed.

Oblivion for the 360 came out A FULL YEAR AGO. It was almost a direct port from the PC. The PS3 version has been worked on up till now. Plus, those shaders and other graphic aprovements will be downloadable for the 360 version also.

So that's bull you're talking there and you know it. COD3, FNR3 this game, other games are all best on 360.

EAT IT AND BEAT IT

[Raist]

Ok dude.

Please explain how Bethesda managed to make a better looking (textures, draw distances, shaders wise), faster loading version of Oblivion on the PS3 ?

I mean, if the PS3 was really inferior, how the hell would they be able to do that ? Extra time wouldn't help if it was inferior.

So what ? Did Bethesda use voodoo tricks or something ?

Sigh he didn't read what i wrote.

If the PS3 is inferior. How come it looked better. Extra time doesn't mean anything. If it's inferior, it's inferior period. It shouldn't look better.

You make absolutely no sense :)

[True Gamer]

Are you high? Or just drunk?

You claim the PS3 fans are desperate but your comment reaks of desperation.

[Grown Folks Talk]

who cares? you're not going to go out and buy the other system because of some minimal difference in the graphics. if you already own a particular system are you going to get the other to play multi-platform games?

[Mr Murda]

However, if you don't have one of the mentioned systems yet then you'd like to know where you can get the best looking games. Right now it's the 360.

If you have a PS3 you're not going to run out and buy a 360 cause it looks a little bit better for a multiplatform game.

[LK]

man, does it really matter. just get the system you want with games you want. its all about the games when it come down to it. if you want it to look good buy a pc.

[Sie]

You can definitely see a difference but does it really matter?

Firstly, graphics in my opinion aren’t really that important especially a minimal difference like shown with this game, game play and enjoyment should always come first.

Secondly, if you want to compare the 2 consoles you can only do it with 1st party games. Its useless doing it with multi-platform as the majority of the time the game will be ported from one console to another.

On a personal note I do think the 360 has the slight edge with graphics at this time, but will it keep it?

[XerockX]

I love games.My son who is 9, and myself(29) play games all the friggin time. From nes to next-gen. We have 360-wii-ps3 (gamertag's abdomina on ps3 and 360).
I appreciate these comparisons because I like to buy the best looking version of a multi-platform game.I don't have to cry about my ps3 being better or my 360 being better,etc. I appreciate games, and yes, I appreciate graphics.Do the graphics for a game influence my purchase, you betcha!
If a particular platform wants to get an edge in sales, I think the graphics are a HUGE factor. People always say gameplay this, gameplay that,But these are VIDEO games.We LOOK at VIDEO. So what my eyes see while I'm playing is very important to ME. Even If a game's gameplay is not so top notch, For me, it can be partially redeemed for my enjoyment if the graphics are bad-ass. I enjoy poppin' in oblivion and just walkin' around and starin' at stuff. Not very exciting from a gameplay point of veiw,but cool as hell,and enjoyable as 3 naked chicks from a "I'm just playing this game and loving it for hours on end soley for the graphics" point of view.
I guess what I'm saying is excellent game play is not the only thing that can make a game great,in my opinion.Hopefully developers can continue to hire wicked artists and genius game designers (and talented staff in general) for highly enjoyable gaming experiences!
BTW, I still play old games like pitfall,yars revenge,below the root,legendary wings,wizards&warriors,bat tle of olympus,and super mario world from start to finish regularly.(in part, because of the fond childhood memories from playing these games.)
PEACE!!! keep gamin', f-a-g-s, and long the the fanboys for continuous forum entertainment fodder!

[Sie]

Yeah I agree to a certain extent but I suppose what I was trying to say is if both games look that similar does it really matter, obviously the next gen games are going to look good but I would prefer to play a game that’s addictive and I enjoy more than it being graphically stunning.

I think the Wii is a prime example, not graphically amazing but selling like hot cakes. Next-gen to me isn’t just graphics.

[Black Republican]

LETS CLEAR SOMETHING OUT

this is clearly stupid
this differnece is nothing to bragg about and nothing to defend about

both look great, 1 looks better slightly, some ppl think this separates the 2console powers??? well theirs not much of a difference
for ppl that claim it looks more real on ps3 - this is waste of an extra 200 dollars cause it doesnt even look much better
for ppl saying 360 version looks better, u got ur moneys worth, but the diference is nothing to bragg about.

.. i own 360, i think the 360 version does look a little better, but hardly... i dont know why ppl are bragging about this...

and to ppl who say the ps3 is inferior it is not, on paper overall the ps3 is the monster
360 is supposed to be the inferior one, however, i think that some games will look better on 360 and others on ps3... and thats just how its gonna be

i dont know why ppl argue all day.

[Aquanox]

After watching it in a big display, I've found a very noticeable difference between both versions: JAGGIES.

Check out in second 5 - 7, the PS3 version shows tons of jaggies in the basket support and some lines in the far ground whereas the Xbox 360's looks totally smooth.

No subjective difference here, it's a clear one. It's the Xbox 360's EdRAM doing what it was made for.

[power of Green]

Sony fans say it looks more real on the PS3 but remember the art style's suppose to be bright and vivid like JARHEAD, Pitch Black ect. The PS3 is being out performed by the Xbox 360; Port or not (Ridge Racer) the PS3 was suppose to be so powerful no game on the 360 would be on par with PS3 period! that's what Sony was selling. 360 clearly displays the Bright Vivid and sharp images HDTV is made for matter of fact that's all HDTV has on EDTV and SDTV, HDTV!!! is Vivid, Bright and Sharp in nature, that's what HDTV is. This games clearly is suppose to be sun drenched it's like trying to calibrate your TV to make the glaring days of movie Pitch Black realalistic when it's suppose to be over done. XBOX360 is clearly the king in graphics we'll see if Sony's PS3 can pull away in other area's.

I have an HDTV LCD that has an HDMI port with no display settings for the most part making it kind on useless as an HD option as it's settings are very limited making it fuzzy and bland and washed out compared to my YPbPr. Defeats the purpose kind of reminds me of the design on Sony's new console.

[DJ]

I've watched the same footage over and over and the only difference I can see is that the 360 footage has its sharpness and contrast ratios raised. How that leads to conclusions about system power is beyond me. I can't find 'jaggies' in either version (contrary to what Aquanox claims) and others are bringing up completely unrelated comments about how the 360's GPU is somehow superior to the PS3's GPU (and false ones at that).

The textures look great in both, the lighting looks great in both. What gives?

[Xi]

the devensiveness fro the ps3 camp is just as bad.
Oh the 360 gpu is superior to the 360s.
You really need to stop posting in these places cause your and the mart are half the cause of the flame.

[WTF]

In short 360 looks better than ps3.Kudos to 360.

[WTF]

Besides 360 has a better online that whatever ps3 is offering in this game.360 Rules

[frosty]

This is funny how many people post on something so stupid i mean come on. Show something worth wile of something that matters. Like the right format is winning and then we will see who has better everything then there is no more posts like this it comes down to money.

[power of Green]

Who care's about what format is winning what's that got to do with gaming?, most people come here to find out news about their Video game console and it's upcoming title's and other game related stories.

You say who care's but the console war rages on like it or not!, trying to down play this is foolish to say the least. Millions bought the PS3 on the nature of this topic alone.

[ChefDejon]

if the Ps3 and Xbox 360 came out at the same time and developers had the same start on them. But the Ps3 just came out 4 mounts ago not even half a year. give it time. Im pretty sure if you did a comparison of Xbox 360 games at its launch agaisnt Xbox 360 games now like gears of war XBox now would win by a longshot. and ps3 is already matching Xbox 360 year headstart in its first 4 Months. SO WHATS REALLY HOOD.

[Black Republican]

360 and ps3 will have alot of the same games
almost over 90% of games are all online if not all, xbox has some games that look better, ps has some games that look better

Xbox Live is way better then the ps network, their is no argument in this, although I would not be surprised if a sony fan did argue this
argue about how we have to pay 5 dollars a month and urs is free LOL, another reason that the xbox live will always be better then the ps network is the fact that we pay. Microsoft realizes that we pay and the wii and ps service is free, so of course they have to provide a better service.

thus; It's better to have the xbox version of any game.

[frosty]

I just want the BD to win the market and it is all over for the other consoles on the market and that is not the only reason i bought my ps3 just for games. BD= #1

[Black Republican]

wether blue ray or hd dvd wins has nothing to do with what console will win this year
yes ps3 is a blue ray player, and 360 supports hd dvd, but that is another war in itself

[ChefDejon]

Xboxlive may not be best for that much longer the GDC keynote from sony may be huge and is going to reveal alot on the Playstation Network. Plus this upcoming firmware update March. 27

[frosty]

POWER OF GREEN THAT IS ALL I WAS SAYING.

[rowdy 1]

SITE SO NO NEED TO ARGUE IF YOUR A PS3 FAN. EVENTHOUGH THE PS3 LOOKS BETTER.

[Jones Miller]

---> Rowdy

What fanboyish nonsense. Why don´t you cramp a tube up your asshole?

[Align]

they both look great: that said the PS3 is brand new not even out here in the UK i can get a 360 core now for £150 why would i want to spend £425 on PS3? when the games are identical to slightly inferior.

[candystop]

This game looks fun so i'm definitely picking it up! Does anyone here happen to know the date for GDC?

[ChefDejon]

INVEST

[candystop]

Invest what if you don't mind me asking?

[DG]

The game looks fun. The demo was too short. Will def. rent at least. For now its Crackdown and waiting for GRAW2

[TheXgamerLive]

The only main difference is that small textures of the Xbox 360 were sharper, like reading names and numbers on jersey's but mostly no big differences. Also, this game is crap in my eyes for either versions, there's just to many crappy so called street games. There worthy of a rental at most.

Cept for a couple of future titles, EA sucks. Army of two should kick major ass on the Xbox 360 but other than that, EA is really starting to suck. I'm tiring of them.

[techie]

All this ps3 should be looking 2 times better than the 360 because its meant to be more powerful is bull. Cross-platform games aren't allowed to look better on any system, it would back lash on their game sales.

What we do need to look out is exclusives.

Also it is a very expensive system, and wouldn't be worth the buy for cross-platform games. But that's not the only reason to buy a console. It's once again for exclusives, and the other capabilities ofthe system...etc.

Still I find it hard to see the differences - I'll take you're word for it and blame my screen - it is only 19inches.

Also 360 hasn't won every bout so far. They are draws and wins for the ps3.

[HaKeRsCanRotINHEL]

Chicago Cubs win the World Series this year.

FirstknighT must be enjoying all the heat this news is generating.

[tacobell]

to compare the graphics of 2 consoles, shouldnt u be looking at something that uses the HIGHEST peak of power on the system?

cause like you cant really say much about either console over 1 game. i mean its the developers work and coding that makes it look bad/good

[MoonDust]

No doubt.

[HaKeRsCanRotINHEL]

in the grand scheme of things does it really matter if one version is only slightly better then the other? Enjoy the game and stop all the nitpicking. ;~)

[BURLY]

As a highly informed techie and an economist by profession it has been extremely difficult for myself to resist trying to constantly counter the effects of Sony's marketing strategy (commonly referred to as "buy-in Theory") whereby they appeal to the brand loyalty of their existing fan base by over-exaggerating the relative power of their console and then reinforcing these lies with over-the-top arrogance.

Unfortunately I have had to just walk away from a number of intense comment sections that were completely flooded with the resounding insolence and common misguided regurgitations of what could only be described as doctrine to the Sony faithful.

I said to myself; who is the bigger fool when one continues to argue with fools? And then I realized that the proof will be in the pudding and that the best day for the 360 will be the day that the PS3 finally launches!

Well guess what? ...I am now sitting back and watching the events unfold just as I had anticipated and to no surprise the hardcore Sony faithful is in complete denial about the fact that this is not just an isolated event but that the 360 is continuously wiping the floor with the PS3 in terms of graphics - time and time again!

Of course Sony recognized the fact that their "buy-in" strategy only works if the system is actually more powerful than the other system that they are attempting to degrade in the eyes of the consumers and to that end they no doubt decided to pre-emptively demoted their poster boy for the cause (Ken K) in order to disassociate themselves from the anger and backlash of the consumers.

This is why I find this comment section so interesting and I know that we have only seen the start of it's momentum because there is still a commonly held belief that the "PS3 just needs time" and that it "is the more powerful system". Well folks I am a techie and I have systematically debunked all of these notions by exposing the fact that the 360 is by FAR and WITHOUT QUESTION the more powerful console and if you think things are bad now for the PS3, then just wait a little longer.

I cannot wait to see some of the most die-hard Sony fan boys eat their misguided copy-and-paste posts and their ignorant attempts to make it appear as though Sony's claims were correct. Of course it is also somewhat sad and is essentially analogous of being in denial with respect to making themselves feel better about being duped into falsely justifying the purchase of a PS3 and holding off on the purchase of a 360.

My advice for them is to stop the insanity, have some pudding and don't "buy-in", ...Jump In!

[Jones Miller]

---> Dark Legion

Suck my balls dry!!!

[techie]

Ok I'm fed up of the twisting things, ie. that every game looks better on the 360 and this means the system is more powerful.

Ridge Racer 7 1080p 60fps

"GRAPHICS:
Ridge Racer has always looked good, but ver. 7.0 dramatically steps up the visual quality

Graphically, Ridge Racer 7 is a tour de force, and demonstrates just how pretty games can look on PlayStation 3. The car models are extremely detailed and can be customized for both improved performance and cosmetics. More striking are the environments, which shine in the small details like foliage and even animated cars driving high up on mountain passes in the background."

And fight Night Round 3:

"GRAPHICS:
Better than the Xbox 360 version in most respects.

Skin textures on the in-game character models are among the most realistic in all of video gaming. The 360 fighters may have looked really good, but these guys look damn good. Wrinkles on their foreheads, moles and chest hairs on their torsos, and bulging veins in their arms had me admiring the male form way more than any hetero guy should admit (which obligates me to mention that the ring girls are noticeably hotter this time around). The pugilistic sweat shine looks so good that you’ll be dabbing off your television screen between rounds. The only graphical element that’s taken a step back is the shiny shorts. They’re more like stiff stove pipes than the flowing fabric of the 360 iteration."

Do I think this means the ps3 version is more powerful? UH NO. Because I'm not stupid. But it really has not been clear cut, and it's silly to say it has been.

I don't buy a console for its cross-platform games, I buy it for its exclusives. I've never been a fan of fps games - and I feel the ps3 will offer me more of what I want - like heavenly sword, god of war type games, and basically a wider range.

[PureGamer]

Can you please look at what your arguing over its a game ha ha. Oh no the PS3 one looks washed out, oh no the 360 one looks unreal omg. yes i watched it yes i saw really nothing they are practically the same, the only people who will see a difference are people with no life and who are fanboys, you stupid immature sad people. i for one don't care for grahpics i care for games, most of the time people have sour grapes over a console because there mummy or daddy cant pay for it well tuff tits stick with your console go home play it and sit down and shut up. People on here actually think that there opinion is taken seriously -.- Also isnt it funny how most of the 360 fanboys are arogant American numskulls ha ha mongs.

[The great 1]

THERE ARE SEVERAL PS3 GAMES COMMING OUT IN THE NEXT 2 TO 3 WEEKS, F1, MOTORSTORM, VF 5 AMOUNG THEN, LOOKS LIKE EURPE IS SECURE FOR PS3. THERE ALREADY SOLD OUT OF PS3 PRE ORDERS WHERE I LIVE, in eb games and gamestation sold out, oh yea deepbrown, your on deleyed time as far as those bubbles are concerned, your certain to crash and burn m8 with guys like Marty and other Xbots, they will proably provoak you somehow.

[techie]

You live in Gamestation...you sound far from great now haha geek (kiddin)

I'm no Sony fanboy (in that I don't exclusively like the ps3) though my friend. I respect what some of them say - they're just keeping it real...but they do tend to read one comparison and think that's where its at and list them all under the 360. Slightly frustrating. So I just like to mix it up a bit.

[Whoooop]

Everybody arguing about a game that REALLY SUCKS!! Even on a PS2000 or on a xbox3600, this game will suck.. I rather play NBA JAM...
PARDON MY ENGLISH Brothaa

[headblackman]

the clear winner here is the xbox360 and will always be the xbox360 because of the advangage of it's gpu design. so take that fony sony

[THAMMER1]

I never though in my whole life I would see any one gamer say that bad graphics = a more realistic looking game. Sorry but this is proof that Sony fan boys are feeling owned.

LOOK HERE real gamers would just say I like the PS3 version because I like Playstation.....No body can knock you for that. But Looking at the video and than turning around and straight lying about it is just too fan boyish for one person.

It is like a crack head saying he likes the experience of losing his teeth over getting high. COME ON MAN!!

[SEAN1617]

i'm sorry but after viewing both the 360 videos and the ps3 videos on ign the ps3 textures look alot better and sharper compared to the 360, but since i have both the systems i am willing to rent both versions and make my own comparison video, and also "THEHAMMER" If someones says "yea i like the 360 version better because i like the 360" thats a fanboy,and your talking about people's opions here, so how can they lie? but i am going to go compare it myself with, comments because frankly your all fanboys and all of you are bias,and i think the ps3 is getting a bad wrap from alot of people who have never even tried one out, they are just spreading propaganda. also yes the 360 gpu is slightly better, I say slightly because it's true, but also the 360 has texture limitations not due to it's unified mem structure, but due to the dvd which all those compress texures are loaded from, unlike the ps3 which can have much more detailed textures do to a dencer disc format. "also go read gameinformer's review, they state "the ps3 version has better textures and is sharper then the 360, yet the 360 has a better frame rate at some points. so honestly they are too much alike, to say "damn the one looks light years beyond the other" Sorry for the long post but being a fanboy is just dumb, because your just being a tool, and the worste part is most of you are not getting paid for it. oh yea hit me up on xboxlive if you think i am a fanboy, NoSKP is my xboxlive id.

[gnothe1]

we have here is if sony hadn't made them outlandish claims that the Ps3 is 3 times stronger than the 360 an that it would destroy the 360 from the start,we wouldnt even be having these comparisons!! so sony did this to themselves.instaed of trying to down talk the competition, they should have let there system do that talking! well I guess they knew they didn't have the better system but the best chance they had was to try an seem bigger an badder!!kinda like a guy that cant fight, he talks loud an hope to scare people but really scared himself(sony)

one thing is for sure, these sony boys have selective hearing an selective vision!! they only see the thing they wanna see!!if it was the PS3 version that was the cleanest an sharpest you better believe the xbox camp would know it!

[SEAN1617]

won't talk it up, i mean to be fair, every damn company does it. it's called marketing.

[sakusavage11]

Hi everyone. Many have been trashing the ps3 and at this point in time, i can prove why the ps3 should not be underlooked.

I have a buddy who has worked for Ea sports and since he cant talk about these issuies i thought i would do so. (my buddy doesnt work for Ea hint hint)

Anyway, my buddy told me that many think that the ps3 has problems with texture shading and contrast ratios. At this point it is slightly inferior to the 360 in terms of texture shading but its contrast ratios which are set up as default are lower than that of the 360. Fixing that in proportion to ur television will change that to be on par and many cases better than the 360.
secondly, the 360's texture shadings are more advanced in comparison to the ps3 as a result of its gpu which is a few steps ahead of the ps3's 7k series of nividia 256 card. As a result, its vertex shader and pixel processing power are several steps ahead of the ps3. The same vertex shader will run much slower on the ps3. The 360 also has a clever way of rendering high definition anti aliased back buffers. To accomplish this on the ps3 it would be very costly.
Thirdly, the 3 general purpose cpus for the 360 are far easier to use than the spu's on the ps3. Now this is where the ps3's will use its advantage. At his moment the gpu and processing power are simply to much for the ps3 but the ps3 took a different apprach. Rather than investing in a gpu which usually is the smartest way to develop a system they went for a uniqe cell processor. The spu's on the ps3 has yet to be tested. The main problem is that almost every game on the ps3 has been ported from the 360 and as a reslut of the gpu and processing speed which the 360 has the ps3 games which have been ported over have not used the strenghts of the ps3. This is an issue sony is trying to adhere to. Many software developers and engineers are now looking at creating an advanced algorithm to apply to the ps3. This would enable game devlopers to use the algarythm whcih sets guidlines on how to maxzimize the spu's which the ps3 contains. As advanced algorythms are readily availabe the ps3 wont have to worry about rendering high defination anti aliased back buffers. They wont have to worry about upscaling back buffers or lowering anit aliased teqnigures. This is y some games are stuck on a 720p setting at 60 fps despite being able to run and 1080p.

The big question u must be asking,what is, what will, and what is worth buying now. In the big picture u first have to compare their lifelines. The 360 will hit a barrier where it will be difficlut to overcome its graphical architecture and volumed gameplay. The ps3 while strive in that sense. Despite it being essentially less powerful in GPU and processing standards its unique processors will allow for limitless game enviroments. In terms of mmos and rpgs the ps3 will likely have a big advantage and these are the games they strive upon. The final fantasy mgs devil may cry is the back bone of the ps3 and these are the games which will take the utmost power out of the ps3.
Lastly, ps3 will begin to strike upon first person shooters yet there ability to be the powerhouse in almost every other game title seems bleak. As a reslut of having 3 core poroccors which are quite powerful and the GPU being a healthy standard at this point, sports racing and shot role playing games will dominate on the 360. Despite critics giving same ratings for sports espceially for both systems the 360 definitly wins that category and i dont see it changing even in three years. Many think that dtx 10 will have superior improvments on the 360. As a low end dtx 10 card it will have improvments but vast improvemnts it will not have. The GPU of the 360 in bond with dtx 10 will simply be the difference between 360 staying for a year or so longer. My prediction is that ps3 will take the lead but it will take close to 12 months and possible even 18 to begin to seperate from the 360 based all on an ALGORTHYM which suits the spu's. Will that happen i dont see any other way even if sony has to dump money back into develpment stages beacuse that is the only way to compete with the 360. Right now the 360 is heading with a full hunk of steam and its 360's race to loose it or ps3's way to give up. Short run 360 long run ps3. Since it seems that ps3 software developers will take time in using its speicalised processors which will likely take 10 months minimum i had already purchased a 360 and in the future i will have to get a ps3. If u cant wait a year u might as well get both if u cant afford both than u might want to get a ps3 as it will continue to improve. There no wrong bet here.Ps3 will definately last longer but it will take time before it hits its peak while 360 is beginning to hit its peak. Either way which every u get u will get close to the same in terms of peak game play for relatively sustained timelength.

LET ME KNOW HOW U GUYS FEEL ABOUT THIS!!!

[THC PRITCHARD]

I cant wait to see a Fear Vs Fear On this matter LOL

[gnothe1]

that bothers me is the guys that say the PS3 will GET BETTER!! it will get ahead of xbox in graphics, it just takes time!! thats the most craziest thing you can say!! because you sould as if the PS3 is gonna advance an the xbox is gonna stand still.then this guy that say the xbox has almost reached its peak!! how do you know that!! nobody knows how far these systems can really go, so for you to say that is crazy!!plus they haven't even started using the limited Dx10 capabilities yet.

[MikeMichaels]

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[Contra26]

your the ugliest system planet earth has seen.
your failed your PS fans the most (speaking of myself)
you failed to keep your "MOJO"....
Your 6axis controller is pathetic/confusing
Your network play is awefull
Your Backwards compatability fails it's promises
You make my fingers slipp off when using the L2 R2 triggers(motor storm)
You wont let me play my own music during a game (like the 360)
Your PRICE IS TOO HIGH
Your 'hopefully' good games are commin out in 2008
You lost GTA4 and VF5 and RE5 to the 360????
You have firmware updates (YUCK...reminds me of PSP)
YOU DONT HAVE RUMBLE FEATURE?
WHAT HAPPENS TO PLAYING GT4 with A STEERING WHEEL with no force feed back?

YUCK.
really ugly..... your the ugliest system ever....

BLU RAY.....
yeah right

PS3 will turn out like PSP
and BLU-RAY will turn out like UMD

PM me.... dont reply.... I think I just dropped the BOMB on you PS3 losers.

[Contra26]

aahhh yes

[THC PRITCHARD]

and oblivion
what looks Way better

Come on i need to see it.

X box fan boys need to get a grip and face it PS3 are going to win this war

X box 360 will be a dreamcast ( or a HALO 3 BOX )

Ps3 will lead on Like PS2 are doing Still

[Gears]

The HDMI advantage? I don't see it.