Shaz from GL: "There was a time where every great multiplayer shooter came with a memorable single-player campaign; such a thing, unfortunately, no longer exists."
A new report reveals multiplayer gaming dominates the industry, with 64% of developers working on online games.
A lot of those games fail. Companies are forcing it through because they people to continuously buy microtransactions. Also they don't need to focus on any artistic elements — just throw some garbage out there and make money.
No actually a lot of video games fail. For example, there are thousands of games that get released every year, most small and indie games. A significant portion of indie games, estimated to be around 70-96%, are considered financial failures, failing to generate enough revenue to be considered successful. A significant portion of indie games are single-player. I don't see any media outlets writing about these failed games. But let 1 or 2 live service games fail and we will be inundated with articles, post, and videos about failing live service/AAA games.
It's just live service games that the most attention, nothing more. Point is very simple, live service games make more money than single player games and more people play them. Most companies will follow that
You do realise it’s easier to count successful live service/AAA games than failed ?
@MDTunkown
A significant majority of video games, be it live service or single player games fail. It is just easier to talk about failed live service/AAA games than 1000 failed indie games that some people pretend to care about.
I mean, how many asset flip simulators exist, and are going to?
How many Synty, bare bones zombie survival games are getting churned out?
How many farm sims?
it'd be a 24/7 ticker of shit games not making profit or failing, games nobody was gonna buy to begin with.
so yeah the news is on AAA games that cost millions, with 100 person dev teams.
The news is on AAA games, while constantly crying about wanting more indies, but have 0 desire to support the thousands of indies out there. Similar to how people constantly cry about there being too many remakes or sequels and wanting more original movies, but never show up to support those original movies.
Just as there are many assets flipped games, there are also good/unique indie games that people who claim they want more of ignore.
We are just gonna have to reverse course as a community.
Go back to taking a gamble, and word of mouth from friends and not "influencers".
Wander stop looks intriguing, but 100k people watched Dr.disrepect say its looks mid so now they have to think it looks mid, and hype up he next COD or BR, extraction hero, survival game.
@IAMRealHooman
The influencer thing is frustrating. I get that people have limited time and money and can't try everything, so to a certain degree you have to look at other people's opinions on things to decide how to spend your time and money. But there is definitely a line between that and just parroting one or two particular influencers' opinions about everything, and a lot of people have unfortunately crossed that line in recent years.
On certain games you can't even really talk to people about them because they just copy/paste an influencer's bullet point opinions on it, so you aren't even really talking to them about the game, because they haven't played it, they just parrot opinions.
Just give us SOCOM sony! Have skins for sale (weapons) and no cartoon crap. We'll play it!
World's most expensive coaster
Pretty standard for pulled off products, collectors love useless but very limited things.
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what's so different between this and those useless NES cartridges or even supposedly "rare" pokemon cards? they are like NFT, just physical. Concord is an actual flop that has been pulled from stores, while Nintendo artificially limited their supply for artificial scarcity.
ehh... I'll stick with the controller. I got enough coasters, they are called xbox games (snickers)
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Concord is the biggest flop of all time... Sony could've saved 5 years by standing over the toilet and flushing 400 million. Remember, Concord is so bad that you cannot even play it anymore. It's vapor. You can't even have a retro review on it or pretend like "maybe there are a few people at home enjoying it". Lol, it was so so bad that it's been obliterated along with piles and piles of money.
The good news is all that failure leads to more pc ports of sonys better games. Sony is a good 3rd party publisher. I'll give them that!
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Sony Interactive Entertainment's recent cancellation of live service game projects is tied to the failure of Concord, based on a new report.
Good. Let it be a lesson.
I’m super curious about how they are going to go about Fairgame$. It’s a live service title which didn’t get a good reception with the announcement and it’s being made by a brand new studio they decided to buy straight away because of the live service title they were making. It’s super similar to Concord and Firewalk Studios.
Will they cancel it this far into development or release it with the high chance of it being another disappointment and making Sony the laughing stock.
It feels like that one is far enough along that they are going to go ahead and just push it out.
The Horizon live-service game is on the ... err horizon as well it seems, don't think that's getting cancelled.
Honestly if one modern Sony live-service game that I wish wasn't cancelled, that'd be the "Spider-Man: The Great Web". The leaked trailer looked cool and imho, it had potential. The timing was just not on its side.
With Avengers and Gotham Knights fumbling and Suicide Squad also not garnering much positivity at the time, Sony pulled the plug.
And 2 other I can also consider as well would be Factions 2.0 and Twisted Metal. Any form of a new Twisted Metal game is still fine for me than nothing.
Hope after all this, Marathin delivers. Oh, it better, especially after they changed such an amazing IP's genre.
I am really curious to see what they can pull-off.
Marathon is Sony's only real hope I think on the live service front, any live service game released before then will be going out to Freddie Mercury singing "another one bites the dust". They have to hope Bungie have some magic left in them and deliver a product worthy of the name. Live service games and Sony fans are like square pegs in a round hole. They need to really knock it out of the park to justify them and remove the negative stigma surrounding live service games.
I really don't know how seriously I would take that Herman has always just come off as a yes man. But I say I don't know because I really don't know it could be one way or the other
Sony's decision to cancel two more live-service games, one from Bluepoint Games and another from Bend Studio—neither of which have significant experience in live-service development—has raised serious concerns among fans. Many of us had been eagerly awaiting announcements about these studios' projects, believing they were nearing completion after years of development.
Now, it appears several first-party studios are being forced to start over, highlighting what feels like a pattern of mismanagement this generation. Sony's strategy seems to be floundering, leaving its first-party portfolio with a string of missteps.
This situation is eerily reminiscent of the "arrogant Sony" era leading up to the PS3's troubled launch. Unfortunately, unlike that time, there’s no strong competition from Xbox to compel Sony to course-correct and refocus on what made them successful in the first place.
Idk, I don't feel like they've learnt their lesson, in the case of Fairgame$, I suspect they'd release it if it's too far along to back out, at least try and make some money on it, if that's possible.
i still find it ridiculous that they had soo many, 12, in the pipeline. if they had like 3, sure, but 12 is a huge number for potential failure.
They were throwing stuff against the wall and praying something stuck... considering how poorly thought out the whole thing was they should be grateful they even got one win with Helldivers.
How the hell would that even work? Were they going to create 12 completely different games to try and cater to different audiences? Or would they expect some gamers to be juggling multiple ones and on top of whatever third party ones get created? I really hope someone high up at Sony has pressed the big red panic button because they're starting to look MS levels of incompetent.
Honestly I think the strategy was to have one of them be a huge success (billions in revenue) and have that pay for all the other games and devs they'd shut down from the failures. One Fortnite-level success would double the brand's profit, so it makes sense why they'd take a flier on it, even if the odds were terrible and in practice has so far been about worst case scenario.
I think they expected multiple failures, they only needed a few to succeed to rake in the big bucks. But there are already a lot of these games out there to the point of saturation, and trying to pull people away from other, popular GaaS games was going to be a big challenge.
They need to wake up. A God of War live service game... what a joke
A God of War live service game doesn't even make sense no matter how you spin it. What a dumb idea.
I’m a huge God of War fan and this had me scratching my head like ‘huh?’ Stop trying to add GaaS to every IP. It just doesn’t work that way.
Focus on quality singleplayer like you had with the ps4 and 3 that made you so well loved. 3rd party will do all the live servicing.
You need some multiplayer titles as well ... not unlike olden days ... but just not so many of 'em that you lose the quality over quantity.
And plus, experimental smaller projects to keep things interesting.
They closed all of their ‘small’ game studios though for the GAAS focus. They shot themselves in the foot. PixelOpus, Japan, London (Psygnosis) closed
Concord's Trailer makes me worried, what were Sony thinking. Single player for all the glory. This screams profit loss.
At least its live service Done right: Charge for the game, then provide regular free updates
compared to: Make game free, then gouge micro transactions that are basically a necessity to win because al the best stuff has a small cost, then its basically who ever pays most, wins, at least with this everyones on the same playbook.
The game is story based though, it's going to have free story updates many will probably coincide with new character additions.
While I do love when devs make a complete experience with a sp and mp like Gears, Halo and cod, that wasn't always the case. There were mp only games like quake and unreal. But I do really hate when these devs blueball us with cool characters and lore only to limit them to a 2 minute cutscene every 3 months if we're lucky. Apex and overwatch would make for an interesting campaign.