Single-Player Titles God Of War Ragnarok & Until Dawn Will Require PSN Account On PC

Sony Interactive Entertainment's upcoming single-player PC games like God of War Ragnarok and Until Dawn will require a PSN account.

[PrinceOfAnger]

Sony will lose support and money from 177 countries that support Steam but do not support PSN!
Tell me about stupidity, I'll tell you Sony.
Its concern is to increase the number of PSN subscribers, at the expense of profit and
More sales for their games from 177 countries.

[purple101]

Thing is it’s free to create an account (for pc players)

So they don’t need essential / extra / premium tiers, there is literally no good reason. Stupid but I don’t know the ins-and-outs but I can imagine it’s just a dumb reason

Ohh actually maybe it’s to combat piracy, so the game will not launch unless you have psn, then Sonys server end would validate if it’s a real copy or a cracked one

That could be it

[ApocalypseShadow]

Ding ding ding. Your edit brought the answer. Lol

Sony wants to validate their games on PC so that they know who's legit and who stole them. I understand Prince in that we have too many accounts we have to make. And it's a slippery slope. Like ported Xbox games to PlayStation will require a Microsoft account. Besides the already Ubisoft accounts and Epic accounts. Hard to keep up with all these names and passwords.

But you figured it out.

[blacktiger]

so you are saying it's another DRM? And is it always online? even though it's single player offline game?

[darthv72]

Its free... sure. The main issue are the countries that are not on the list to select when creating the account. And I don't think Sony allows nearest neighbor, where you pick the one closest to you that is supported. People can obviously pick any country they want from the list, but that then becomes saddled to them going forward. Personally my country is supported, and I have not felt the need to change it so I dont even know if you can after the fact. If I were to move to an unsupported country... would the games even work if it detects me playing it from one when I am registered in the other?

This all stems from the whole Helldivers fiasco. Countries that support steam, and let them buy it and play only to have them cut off because their country was not officially part of the PSN account creation which was later enforced after the fact.

[Andrew336]

I believe every Sony single player game has leaked online the same day it releases. Needing a psn account to play the game legally isn't gonna change the fact it'll be pirated same day.

[Jingsing]

They'll find out sadly that most of their games are pirated, Ghosts of Tsushima over 500k people downloading it not on Steam, It sold below 70k on Steam.

[ApocalypseShadow]

Black tiger, we all know games are stolen all the time on PC. Stolen to play. Stolen and emulated to play older system's games. The only way to stop it or slow it down is to have some type of security measure.

They're businesses. They have every right to protect what they make. PC gamers don't have ANY right to steal it.

There's a grey area when it comes to games purchased and the companies make your purchase unplayable through updates it closing servers. And we decide to take measures in our own hands to continue playing what was rightfully purchased by downloading it modding the code. But it's still theft.

Some gamers don't like the measures because they want the option to steal. Not everyone does. But many on PC do. That's just the reality. You can hide from the truth. But the truth is still there.

[--Onilink--]

What good does it do to create an account (with fake information from another country) if the game isnt released in Steam in that country anyway?

Or are you expecting people to also have to create another steam account in another country in order to link it to the PSN account they now have to make, just to be able to play Sony games?

Its a dumb and unnecessary situation, simple as that

[shinoff2183]

You make a good point about piracy. Still weird Sony is the only one under fire about this even though they aren't alone, ea, ubisoft, Microsoft, etc. I don't know why Sony doesn't sell in those countries, but it's their prerogative.

[ApocalypseShadow]

I understand the account thing but you're way off on the subscriber thing.

[just_looken]

@prince

I agree and i see the defenders are here

Once again everyone you need real information to make a psn account so you can only have one account you loose that then you loose all your playstation digital games and have bricked consoles.

The use of programs like vpns are a banable offense to sony and like so many other companies are monitoring your chat/activity via ai bots.

You should not half to buy a game then fill out a form like your buying a gun just to play a single player game.

Every other launcher like ea/ubi/rstar/acti/blizzard/bet h You just need a email address/password acti has on some game the bs phone # crap or unless your going to buy something then yeah real info. But sony like i said you need to give everything but a nude selfie/dna sample but that will be for psvr 4 and or ps6.

[Magatsuhi]

You're full of bs. I literally just made a fake psn account in el salvador and i had no issues. All i did was google map an address and a zip code and voila, psn account. Did not need to add any personal information.

Where does it state you need ps+ to play online on steam? You're being purposefully hyperbolic and dishonest or just stupid in order to spin outrage because you hate sony for very dumb reasons.

[just_looken]

choo choo here comes the sony blind boys

I never said you need psplus for steam never

I also said sense 2023 again 2023

But i get it its sony they do 0 wrong

[P_Bomb]

“…you need to give everything but a nude selfie/dna sample”

Nobody wants your dna. I promise you.

[badz149]

"...you need real information to make a psn account so you can only have one account you loose that then you loose all your playstation digital games and have bricked consoles."

It's one thing to be a hater but it's another to be full of crap.

1. I have multiple accounts in 4 countries for several reasons. And making the PSN accounts is free.

2. Lose your account, you lose everything associated with that account? Wow...like every other accounts too? WTH are you on about?

[just_looken]

https://www.playstation.com...

[Amplitude]

Though I agree with you it sucks to have to create an account - literally not a single thing that you said was true.

-You don't need real information.
-You can have any number of accounts.
-Its rare to lose a PSN account, but the game is still tied to Steam no matter how you slice it. Once you have it, your game can't be taken away by anybody but Valve.
-You won't be banned for playing a single player game with a VPN on.
--There is no form or ID required.
-The Sony "form" requires the exact same details as Steam. It also doesn't need a phone number.

There are very real reasons why the account requirement is bs but every other comment covers that.

[StormSnooper]

Who gives a shit, they don’t want to sign up, they can always play other games and sign up to their requirements instead. You want PSN games, you sign up to PSN. Same applies to every other platform.

[PhillyDonJawn]

Kinda wild how Sony and MS care more about accounts/users than actual sales

[TheEroica]

Sony fans don't care... They don't get the concept of why this screws gamrers over. Sony fans only know how to shill for the Corp.

[fr0sty]

We're too busy playing these games on our playstations to care.

[jznrpg]

This is extra money for them.

[Giga_Gaia]

I seriously doubt they'd get much sales from those countries. Sony definitely weighted all the scenarios and they quickly realized that those countries don't matter, they wouldn't bring much sales and that PSN integration would just be more beneficial.

[CrimsonWing69]

Are we always going to get news articles on this? Yes, any Sony game on PC now requires a PSN and won’t be accessible to regions that don’t have the PSN infrastructure.

[neutralgamer1992]

Exactly ots not like.on PC we already have so many different launchers.

Rockstar
Ubi
Epic
Battlenet
Steam.
GOG

What's one more and I already have a PSN account

[ZycoFox]

Meh, I mean in the 90's and early 2000's some games had built in server browsers or built in lobby/chat systems like Worms 2 and it's sequels, if not we had GameSpy or Wireplay to find online players.

Multiple launchers is kind of annoying though, TBH I would prefer just one..

[just_looken]

If you read the 2023 psn terms of service but this is sony so i know 90% here did not this is a pc killer.

Not only do you need real information so one account no way to make a dummy account and they need your address/real name some countries a drivers license but they also use ai to monitor you.

In there terms they are checking your ip address as the use of VPN's is against the terms and programs that cheat are also bannable but in the list they think 3rd party antivitus is cheating.

So yeah paying for god of war then filing out a form like your going to buy a gun just to play the thing to me sound's stupid but i am not a sony blindboy.

[neutralgamer1992]

Looken

I didn't know that. It sucks and I for one will be very watchful of what I buy in the future from Playstation on PC. It's like Sony can't stay out of its own way when it comes to success of their games

[Berenger]

Why is this a problem? Just curious. Don't you need accounts for Steam, Xbox, Gog, Epic Games,EA, Blizzard,etc..? Why is it a problem if you need PSN?

[darthv72]

There are close to 200 countries around the world. MS is supported in 98%, Steam 90%. Sony... less than 50%.

[Grilla]

You guys keep crying about these 177 3rd world countries.

[CrimsonWing69]

How much of a % do these 177 countries equate to Sony’s overall sales by region?

[InUrFoxHole]

@Crimson
Would you say this is more pro or anti consumer?

[Hofstaderman]

Trust me in those countries its cheaper to buy a console than build or buy a pc that can run ps5 games. Taxes and import duties are a real killer for graphics cards etc.

[Giga_Gaia]

The countries where PSN isn't supported definitely wouldn't move the needle in term of sales. In the end, they don't really matter. You can bet Sony did the math and have a lot more data than some stupid fanboys like you people.

[buffig]

@ Darthv72 Ahhh yes. All the people complaining on forums are people from Cameroon. It's definitely not people who it won't affect making a massive deal out of nothing

[darthv72]

...doesn't affect me one bit. All I did was provide a logical answer to the question hiro asked. People disagreeing does not refute the facts presented.

[just_looken]

@buff

Its funny you can tell the Americans so much now

Japan is part of the list sony has banned ghost of tsumia pc version people in japan wtf? every American meh im fine with this as they give sony all ther information.

Not to mention in alot of countries that this game is supported you still have issues with getting a valid working address then the whole information that they need. I would never give sony my govt id fuck that.

[staticall]

IMO, because it's a dumb requirement. Steam already has DRM built-in and it's working fine. And affected games are offline singleplayer games. This requirement doesn't help the players, only Sony stats.

Does this make tbe game better? No. Does this help the player or does it improve their experience? Also no. So why is this required? Just cause. So why anyone defends this again?!

[just_looken]

All those compaines need a email/password that is it oh your ea account got banned well unlink that one from steam make another relink sesne the game is on steam.

Sony need You email address password first/last name home phone home address/postal proof of age location country and ip address then will monitor you 24/7. You will also need payment information on console for ps +

You can only have one psn account sense it need's your real info in some countries it needs a attached govt id.

Your psn account gets banned then all these games are dead to you and your playstaion consoles are bricked sense you need a psn account/ps + to go online/get updates etc

You can not make a new account sense it will say hey you already have that info on this account that is banned sorry gtfo.

[DustMan]

Oh noooooo! A common business practice! Still buying day one lol.

[Sciurus_vulgaris]

Sony just wants to boost its monthly active users.

[purple101]

all 97 million of them

[InUrFoxHole]

Hard pass

[Knightofelemia]

Why? Buy the game play the game would be the best and easiest way.

[WolfSeed]

Easily done for such desired ports. Next.

[gold_drake]

make it optional

[anast]

The gamers will fall in and line up. A bit of whining at the beginning, but they really want to play these games.

[8bitAssassin]

Fuck the PB's, Sony shouldn't have done p.c anyways. That shit is pure greed and ignorance.

[PRIMORDUS]

Torrent, play, smile, 😁 then give Sony this 🖕

[Gravesinger_]

As a PC gamer, I'm okay with this. I know that's not what most PC people want to hear, but the reality is..it's their games and they can at least require a PSN account to play them on PC. I had an issue with the Helldivers situation because it was a game they sold for four months and then said "OH yeah, you need this to continue playing the game", that was trash and they know it, but we won in that regard and now they are making it clear from the get go you need a PSN account.

[PRIMORDUS]

Not the torrent of GoW Ragnarok🤣 The scene groups remove all that bullshit so you can just play the game in peace.

[tagzskie]

yeah this sucks! i have psn account and believe me i dont know the address i input when i created my account because they didnt support philippines(estimate spend 10k usd in my psn account). I just search it on net and i think its US account.. And when i plan to buy helldivers 2 in my steam account because free online unlike psn, yeah its not supported. I wish these kind of things failed misserably

[arkard]

Oh no, a non problem. Are we going to have an article everytime a game needs an EA account? Ubisoft? How about Microsoft? Why is it a problem when Sony does it?

[Toecutter00]

It's all about the subs now with both Sony and MS. This is the real reason creativety is suffering. That's why they invest so much into GAAS that nobody wants. Games need to be online and exclusive to sell those precious subs. What they don't need to be? Good. The likes of Redfall and Concord are just the beginning.

[Rikimaru-00]

this is such a really bad idea. I understand they want more people on PSN but this is not the way to do it.

[jznrpg]

Everyone on PC will require you to login eventually it’s getting there already.

[Psychonaut85]

I partially understand it, but it really fucks over people who don’t have access to PSN. And I get where some just don’t want to create an account. At least they’re selling them on Steam, and not trying to have their own launcher. But seems like there should be a better solution.

[EternalTitan]

How to justify piracy.

[PRIMORDUS]

I'm past the point of caring anymore. I just take what I want and really don't give a fuck. I buy very little on PC, and while I have Switch I buy mostly used, again very little.

[got_dam]

It's whatever, unless they do what they did with helldivers 2. Was bullshit to sell the game to a fuck ton of people knowing they were going to make it unplayable for them a few months later.

[JL2930]

Pretty soon you will need a PS Plus tier to play them too.