Helldivers 2 CEO reveals who restricted the latest countries in the PSN controversy

The Arrowhead Game Studios CEO has shed some new light on the mass restrictions of Helldivers 2 in 180 countries.

[ocelot07]

Sony needs to learn pc players are noting like console players. If they don't like something about the way you handle a game they will do everything to derail the game. Review bomb on steam, pirate the game what ever.

Sony should just stick to releasing single player pc games. Or don't allow crossplay so no need for PSN linking on pc. Or just stop releasing games on pc.

[Angyobangyo]

One of the most childish takes on this situation.

[MrNinosan]

Because it's true?
Sony should skip out on PC, because their fans are the most toxic around, and nothing good will come out of it in the end.

[shaenoide]

You've never player League of Legend, or even CoD on PC ?

[Skuletor]

@MrNinodan

It only takes a few seconds browsing most N4G article's comment sections to see this place is full of toxic console players, the amount of PC masterace type comments pale in comparison. Hell, just make a vaguely negative comment about Playstation or Xbox and see how quick your comment gets downvoted, like this one probably will be.🤣

[Shiore2u]

@MrNinosan
They can't skip out, they need the money and have already invested a lot of time and effort into keeping it going. Their only other avenue through their own hardware hasn't been cutting it. Customers taking corporate shenanigans laying down may be common practice on their platform, that's not the case for this one. Options are king over here. They're just gonna have to learn the hard way like another they're familiar with did before them.

cough Microsoft cough

[shadowhaxor]

To the person who said PC fans are the most toxic out there. You have no clue about the PC gaming communities. Sure, some are toxic, but hell if it ain't the same on console. There are communities made for keeping players safe; why do you think there are so many modders who worked on stuff that helps PC games play games where developers failed? There are games released in a crappy form that PC modders rushed in to fix them. I could go on and on. But I feel it would be a wasted effort to do so.

I'm so tired of people who don't know what the heck they are talking about, running their mouths so they can act like something who does. Seriously, just stop. This has NOTHING to do with the PC community being toxic and more along the lines that they don't like being forced fed lies and crap. Unlike console players who have no choice.

Remember, Sony decided to release its games on the PC, and as such, it needs to pay attention to how the PC gaming world works.

[ocelot07]

How is it? What I said is true. They did ok with the single player games God of war, Days Gone. Since there is no online components no need for PSN.

When it comes to online play. They obviously want people to link a psn profile. Why I don't know I don't understand. EA do it with their games, Ubisoft do it, Microsoft do it.

If Sony are not willing to scrap the PSN requirements then their is only a few options. Scrap crossplay (I'm in support of this), Scrap releasing pc games that has online MP, Stop releasing pc games.

I hope pc players flat out don't purchase anymore Sony games. Force Sony into doing 1 or the above 3.

[theindiearmy]

Sony a week ago with Helldivers 2: "We’re still learning what is best for PC players and your feedback has been invaluable."

Now with Ghost of Tsushima: "We've thought it over...screw you all."

[Hofstaderman]

Haha pretty much. Just create a psn account. You had to do the same thing for Sea of Thieves too.

[shadowhaxor]

You can't just make a PSN account. Again. Seriously, stop talking nonsense. The issue with "JUST MAKE AN ACCOUNT" is Sony has spelled out in its TOS that people making accounts in regions that don't have PSN can be banned. It's not the same for an MS/Xbox account, as MS accounts are WORLDWIDE! PSN is also against the GDPR in some regions as it requires people to give up info it does not need. That's a violation. It was already proven that you can play Helldivers 2 without that info, so why require it now?

It's not just.. oh, make an account.

[Aloymetal]

''Or just stop releasing games on pc.''
Bingo!! It's not even worth it. Losing identity for some little extra cash. Not worth it in the end when the majority of their main games sell a lot better on the console compared to PC. Not a good look for the brand. They should stick to their roots just like Ninty.

[got_dam]

Losing identity... their games have sold well on pc. They still have their logo plastered all over. There is no loss of identity. I'm sorry your butt hurts that people are playing those games on something other than playstation. When a multi platform game does stupid shit its cool for everyone to rail it, but if it's Sony published game... well here watching people make excuses for shitty practices.

[Skuletor]

@ocelet It would have never been as big an issue if the requirement was enforced from the start. As others have pointed out before, Microsoft, EA, Ubisoft, Rockstar etc have all required account linking and/or third party launchers for Steam games too. Selling the games in territories where it was against Sony's ToS to make a PSN account and then later telling those users they can't play without it, the whole thing has just been really badly managed by Sony.

[ocelot07]

I thought the Helldivers 2 thing was sorted? They no longer forcing people to link a psn account. I'm talking about the yet to be released games like ghost of tsushima.

I agree with what you said. They should of done it with Helldivers from the start 100% agree. But now that issues has been resolved. They need to start realising pc players are a different breed and quick.

[Skuletor]

Somewhat but the whole Helldivers 2 situation has put a giant spotlight on future PlayStation games on PC right now. Whether a PSN account is required for GoT on PC or not, their next port after that won't get anywhere near as much attention, if you need PSN or not.

[H9]

Or actually listen to what people are saying and don't restrict people, you are talking about PC gamers not being sheep's like it's an insult

[notachance]

They should've made it optional with bonus incentive for people who did, like say cosmetics or free credit or something. People would eat that up no problem.

[anast]

I find it interesting that PC gamers will slavishly go along with only renting their games on Steam, buy the annual $1k graphics card, and then cry afoul about a PSN account. I get it, but it's interesting nonetheless.

[Skuletor]

I find it interesting that you (not all console players, you specifically) are making the claim that PC players (all? some? in general?) are buying $1k graphics cards every year, one of many ridiculous myths some console only players like to claim. Then there's the very real issue of Sony releasing a game in territories where it's against their terms of service to create a PSN account, then demanding all users to use an account going forward but that part doesn't fit your narrative, you're just like an activist journalist omitting facts to fit their agenda or just a misinformed person speaking about things they don't understand.
By the way, tell me more about physical copies of The Crew that people own and how people didn't just rent those.

[Shiore2u]

@Skuletor
Just ignore anast. He's always been threatened by PC, be it the foreign concept of choice or learning new things requiring the smallest effort. The last few years of watching his only personal possible method of gaming face potential market obsolesce has broken and reduced him to humiliation rituals. Never brand worship kids.

[Skuletor]

@Shiore2u

Then how am I going to share fun facts with them, like how Playstation's next Steam game, Ghost of Tsushima has a 2015 graphics card (GTX 960) as a minimum requirement on its Steam page? A graphics card which apparently cost $199 US Dollars at launch, no less.

[derek]

"Not like console players" pcmr is so full of it bunch of whinny babies. Pc players cleary have no problem signing up for 3rd party accounts as they do it for every other game. You're right Sony needs to get back to focusing on their console base who has actually made them as successful as they are. Gaas games should release on pc day and date makes sense for the health of those communities minus the pc pirates and cheaters.

[Skuletor]

Yet here you are whining about whiners, I've seen you doing it before recently too, it's actually pretty funny. By the way, if you bought a product and then was told you could no longer use the product you bought, a certain level of whining would be justified, right?

[MetroidFREAK21]

Sony is ruining one of the best 'live service' games to be released in recent memory... I don't understand publishers man... not just Sony, but all of them. Always about money, never the consumer

[derek]

People were arguing with me when I said it was a Sony decision.